thats just silly! wouldnt earth if it was to be hit by something that huge, be knocked out of orbit and flying into deep space? lolololol this is even worse then the big bang theory ... what a joke
I love the theory about how another planet came in contact with earth made a huge piece of it break away and form the moon thats just silly! wouldnt earth if it was to be hit by something that huge, be knocked out of orbit and flying into deep space? lolololol this is even worse then the big bang theory ... what a joke
thats just silly! wouldnt earth if it was to be hit by something that huge, be knocked out of orbit and flying into deep space? lolololol this is even worse then the big bang theory ... what a joke
Yep. One can read about the giant impact hypothesis at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon
Not impossible I guess. Now, imagine if scientists could perform controlled and supervised collisions like that in experiments? What amazing scientific results wouldn't we be able to gather from such giant experiments?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon
Not impossible I guess. Now, imagine if scientists could perform controlled and supervised collisions like that in experiments? What amazing scientific results wouldn't we be able to gather from such giant experiments?
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GR
QUOTE (br4sco+Dec 13 2006, 03:31 AM)
.. wouldnt earth if it was to be hit by something that huge, be knocked out of orbit and flying into deep space?...
If you would become a giant ogre, able to play with the whole planets like with the balls, you would be surprised, these planets are behaving like droplets of fluid, in fact.
The massive collision of two planets would result in formation of surface waves of intermediate dropplet and the ejection of matter by such surface wave.
If you would become a giant ogre, able to play with the whole planets like with the balls, you would be surprised, these planets are behaving like droplets of fluid, in fact.
The massive collision of two planets would result in formation of surface waves of intermediate dropplet and the ejection of matter by such surface wave.
If you have ever played with a set of Newton Balls you would understand how a large object striking one side of the Earth could cause the ejection of a similar sized junk from the other side. The Earth contains 81 times the mass of the moon so it would not be knocked out of orbit, however the orbit may have changed slightly as the Proto-Earth absorbed some of the velocity of the colliding body so that the ejected matter left with only enough momentum to reach orbital velocity.
This would make an interesting thesis for budding cosmologists, calculated the mass, velocity and angle of a body required to create the moon.
This would make an interesting thesis for budding cosmologists, calculated the mass, velocity and angle of a body required to create the moon.
No one knows how the moon was made.
I think it came from one side of the earth when it was young.
View an image of the moon and you will see where it looks like the last drop of hot molten or slag finally was pulled up with the moon and splat over almost half the surface.
Now the earth starts to spin, the continents separate, the dinosaurs die from the massive exit of the moon which cooled down now.
One side of the earth was always hot and tropical while the back side was cold, until the earth started to spin. (the spin began when the moon left earth).
The massive grass and vegetation was buried and is now oil.
If I am correct, we may be able to find a hole or indication somewhere on earth where the moon left and earth simply closed the hole back up after some time passed.
It seems like if something did hit the earth that we could see where it hit. The impact would show up somewhere. Look at the size of the moon.
I think it came from one side of the earth when it was young.
View an image of the moon and you will see where it looks like the last drop of hot molten or slag finally was pulled up with the moon and splat over almost half the surface.
Now the earth starts to spin, the continents separate, the dinosaurs die from the massive exit of the moon which cooled down now.
One side of the earth was always hot and tropical while the back side was cold, until the earth started to spin. (the spin began when the moon left earth).
The massive grass and vegetation was buried and is now oil.
If I am correct, we may be able to find a hole or indication somewhere on earth where the moon left and earth simply closed the hole back up after some time passed.
It seems like if something did hit the earth that we could see where it hit. The impact would show up somewhere. Look at the size of the moon.
I had ideas similar to rethinker - e.g. that Moon was born from Earth.Like eddies, they have no problems in crossing surface and forming similar eddies outside after having formed inside to almost full size.
The place could have been via Srilanka where there is still have closed hole visible and smallest geoid value meaning there could be a space with less density below. There could have been an umbilical cord attached to that spot - famous sacred mountain sripada - PADA meaning A FOOT http://sripada.org/ in Srilanka- for some time after the birth of the Moon. Then it snapped of, giving rise to the strange, circular top of the mountain and Indian legend about someone leaving Srilanka for sky and leaving his footprints there.
The only difference in my opinion is that Earth of course was rotating even before the birth of the Moon. The Earth was born out of rotation itself.
Also , I think that Krishna with his blue face, and lotus feet was actually symbolizing Moon before becoming a human/godlike character.
Moon could have come out of other similar places where Earth has rotating forms on surface, but I guess geoid and Indian texts made me to favour Srilanka.
That is what I think.
The place could have been via Srilanka where there is still have closed hole visible and smallest geoid value meaning there could be a space with less density below. There could have been an umbilical cord attached to that spot - famous sacred mountain sripada - PADA meaning A FOOT http://sripada.org/ in Srilanka- for some time after the birth of the Moon. Then it snapped of, giving rise to the strange, circular top of the mountain and Indian legend about someone leaving Srilanka for sky and leaving his footprints there.
The only difference in my opinion is that Earth of course was rotating even before the birth of the Moon. The Earth was born out of rotation itself.
Also , I think that Krishna with his blue face, and lotus feet was actually symbolizing Moon before becoming a human/godlike character.
Moon could have come out of other similar places where Earth has rotating forms on surface, but I guess geoid and Indian texts made me to favour Srilanka.
That is what I think.
i see alot of people still believe in something like this. kinda sad ......
if thats the case, then you might just wanna say, that every planet body in the solar system and ALL solar systems, that this same process took place everywhere. and i really doubt that.
The moon was formed when all the other planets were being formed. You just start out with cores of the planets " same stuff the sun is made up of " that try to find each other to reconnect, in this process, you have huge rocks in the way and other stuff that just cling to these cores that form the planets.
the black holes give them life, give them their shapes "spheres" i see there are two different types of galaxys ..... we will call a galaxy thats already been pulled in by black holes just a normal " Galaxy " and one that hasnt reached a black hole yet, " Dalaxy " meaning dead galaxy.
if thats the case, then you might just wanna say, that every planet body in the solar system and ALL solar systems, that this same process took place everywhere. and i really doubt that.
The moon was formed when all the other planets were being formed. You just start out with cores of the planets " same stuff the sun is made up of " that try to find each other to reconnect, in this process, you have huge rocks in the way and other stuff that just cling to these cores that form the planets.
the black holes give them life, give them their shapes "spheres" i see there are two different types of galaxys ..... we will call a galaxy thats already been pulled in by black holes just a normal " Galaxy " and one that hasnt reached a black hole yet, " Dalaxy " meaning dead galaxy.
br4sco wrote
I don't remember anyone proving this, are you saying this is a fact and you know it?
Did I miss my issue of Nature that week.
Or What?
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The moon was formed when all the other planets were being formed
I don't remember anyone proving this, are you saying this is a fact and you know it?
Did I miss my issue of Nature that week.
Or What?
QUOTE (rethinker+Dec 13 2006, 05:30 PM)
I don't remember anyone proving this, are you saying this is a fact and you know it?
Did I miss my issue of Nature that week.
Or What?
then what your saying, is our moon is special. a bit different from any other moon out there or planet? how did the other planets form ? and why couldnt other planets and moons been formed the same way? i see the moon being no different then any other moon or planet out there, and ALL were formed the same way.
Did I miss my issue of Nature that week.
Or What?
then what your saying, is our moon is special. a bit different from any other moon out there or planet? how did the other planets form ? and why couldnt other planets and moons been formed the same way? i see the moon being no different then any other moon or planet out there, and ALL were formed the same way.
br4sco: Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are no such things a "dalaxies." I think you should probably keep the fictitious words to a minimum if you plan on posting in a science forum.
QUOTE (bmcghie+Dec 13 2006, 09:43 PM)
br4sco: Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are no such things a "dalaxies." I think you should probably keep the fictitious words to a minimum if you plan on posting in a science forum.
*** lol i said I ME MYSELF would call them that. seems to me nobody wants to try and come up with their own theories and just wait till others come up with something and just jump on there cad sacks
*** lol i said I ME MYSELF would call them that. seems to me nobody wants to try and come up with their own theories and just wait till others come up with something and just jump on there cad sacks
QUOTE (br4sco+Dec 13 2006, 09:22 PM)
then what your saying, is our moon is special. a bit different from any other moon out there or planet? how did the other planets form ? and why couldn't other planets and moons been formed the same way? i see the moon being no different then any other moon or planet out there, and ALL were formed the same way.
OK
Now first I can see that you are willing to think outside the box, and you are not afraid of what we think of your theory. This is good. Much of the major theory was unaccepted at first like Galileo, heavier than air flight,the first motor and so on.
One thing you may wish to consider is to be ready to say OK I do not know everything.
This gives you a good solid shield to the flood of negative response you may receive in the future. As you know it is easy to show how someone is wrong about their ideas and we all like to look smart when we can point out that someone is in error.
Here is another idea that I got from thinking about your ideas.
What if! What if one large object did come from the sun, and it did brake up somehow?
If the large object was indeed a mass like the earth or Jupiter and it was hit by something or somehow broke into many balls. (like when you are using a cutting torch and the red hot slag falls off, hits the concrete floor and small hot balls of slag explode outward all around the room. If you look closely at the hot molten slag, they are small and round.
Maybe one big piece became many small and large planets.
The water on earth may be just because it was the most contained place for water.
Pow the sun explosion!
Pow the big ball from (earth or some big mass) the sun gets hit or brakes up somehow!
Pow planets separate like the drops of hot steel falling to the concrete while using a cutting torch.
OK
Now first I can see that you are willing to think outside the box, and you are not afraid of what we think of your theory. This is good. Much of the major theory was unaccepted at first like Galileo, heavier than air flight,the first motor and so on.
One thing you may wish to consider is to be ready to say OK I do not know everything.
This gives you a good solid shield to the flood of negative response you may receive in the future. As you know it is easy to show how someone is wrong about their ideas and we all like to look smart when we can point out that someone is in error.
Here is another idea that I got from thinking about your ideas.
What if! What if one large object did come from the sun, and it did brake up somehow?
If the large object was indeed a mass like the earth or Jupiter and it was hit by something or somehow broke into many balls. (like when you are using a cutting torch and the red hot slag falls off, hits the concrete floor and small hot balls of slag explode outward all around the room. If you look closely at the hot molten slag, they are small and round.
Maybe one big piece became many small and large planets.
The water on earth may be just because it was the most contained place for water.
Pow the sun explosion!
Pow the big ball from (earth or some big mass) the sun gets hit or brakes up somehow!
Pow planets separate like the drops of hot steel falling to the concrete while using a cutting torch.
rethinker ...
I know and i admit i dont know everything, ive said plenty of times in here there are some things in my theories like how a black hole is formed that i do not know. And other things as well ..... but when i say something like that, people just jump on it as soon as they to make me look stupid and to make them look like there right. When all they do " seems to me anyways " is just read right from science books and never give an answer of their own.
As far as your theory goes on something hitting the sun, it would have to be really huge in order to break that many pieces off of it and to scatter it, i still think when this solar system was being formed, all the stuff the sun was made of was coming together formed, into many pieces, the largest piece is what the sun turned out to be, the smaller ones got rock and other matter melted to them, and now the sun is pulling all these objects back to it.
Here is a fact that just prooves my theory, they say the moon is moving more and more away from the earth and over time, it will be twice as far away from the earth, if thats the case, it prooves something is pulling it away. The Sun!
I know and i admit i dont know everything, ive said plenty of times in here there are some things in my theories like how a black hole is formed that i do not know. And other things as well ..... but when i say something like that, people just jump on it as soon as they to make me look stupid and to make them look like there right. When all they do " seems to me anyways " is just read right from science books and never give an answer of their own.
As far as your theory goes on something hitting the sun, it would have to be really huge in order to break that many pieces off of it and to scatter it, i still think when this solar system was being formed, all the stuff the sun was made of was coming together formed, into many pieces, the largest piece is what the sun turned out to be, the smaller ones got rock and other matter melted to them, and now the sun is pulling all these objects back to it.
Here is a fact that just prooves my theory, they say the moon is moving more and more away from the earth and over time, it will be twice as far away from the earth, if thats the case, it prooves something is pulling it away. The Sun!
QUOTE (br4sco+Dec 13 2006, 11:47 PM)
Here is a fact that just prooves my theory, they say the moon is moving more and more away from the earth and over time, it will be twice as far away from the earth, if thats the case, it prooves something is pulling it away. The Sun!
I'm afraid your theory isn't correct. If the sun is pulling the moon, so does it pull the earth! Keep in mind that the moon is orbiting the earth, in the same time as the earth-moon system is orbiting the sun. Therefore, the overall gravitation force of the sun is acting equally on both the sun and the earth.
It can be shown that the increasing distance between the earth and the moon (about 4 centimeters per year) is due to tidal effects. The same effect also leads to a gradually slowing rotation of the earth (days are getting longer and longer).
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I'm afraid your theory isn't correct. If the sun is pulling the moon, so does it pull the earth! Keep in mind that the moon is orbiting the earth, in the same time as the earth-moon system is orbiting the sun. Therefore, the overall gravitation force of the sun is acting equally on both the sun and the earth.
It can be shown that the increasing distance between the earth and the moon (about 4 centimeters per year) is due to tidal effects. The same effect also leads to a gradually slowing rotation of the earth (days are getting longer and longer).
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