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eggster7
Premise A: Toss a 2x4 wood post/stud into a tornado, and provide a soft enough landing, the 2x4 survives the tornado intact.

Premise B: When hundreds of 2x4's and larger pieces of wood are assembled into a single continuous assembled frame structure or building, the tornado rips the assembled structure apart, and the individual 2x4 and larger wood pieces slam against each other and splinter/break into smaller peices.

Question: How would you tie the building/structure frame assemblages of the wood pieces in a way that doesn't let them separate at their end-connections; A) Non-continuous reinforcing, cool.gif Continuous reinforcing?
buttershug
Build it below ground.
rpenner
Remove atmosphere.
MjolnirPants
Put up a sign that says "Any Tornadoes caught trespassing on this property will be shot," then sit out front with a shotgun in your hands and a crazy gleam in your eye.

Alternately, build a dome-shaped building of poured concrete with rebar.

Alternately, wrap steel and nylon bands around the entire building, and secure them to the ground using 1-ton concrete anchors.

But I still think the first option is the best.
Geoff Mollusc
QUOTE (MjolnirPants+Oct 25 2009, 01:52 AM)
Put up a sign that says "Any Tornadoes caught trespassing on this property will be shot," then sit out front with a shotgun in your hands and a crazy gleam in your eye.


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eggster7
A lot cheaper and profitable to go with continuous reinforcing!!

Continuous flexible steel strapping reinforcing installs with any shaped, materialed, and sized structure frame system.

The combined compression and tension resisting continuous structure frame system doesn't need to weigh or add tons of anchor weights to resist the tornadic winds and suction pressures!!

Have learned through Family in the Military, that shooting bullets, missiles, rockets, and even A-bombs into a tornado won't phase it, but great and funny thought!!

The main objective of continuously reinforced structure frames is to resist the action forces long enough for the tornado to pass around the building before doing too much damage.

Dr Fred A Wolf
QUOTE (eggster7+Oct 25 2009, 07:41 AM)
Have learned through Family in the Military, that shooting bullets, missiles, rockets, and even A-bombs into a tornado won't phase it, but great and funny thought!!


Not so great, nor funny .... only extremely pathetic.

Seems "your family" are a bunch of hapless wackjobs, who spout obvious nonsense.

Fission/fusion devices have simply not been tested within a tornado!

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Matador
I'll be checking for responses.
POLY FRACT
had a blast trying to figure out all the weird stuff that they described. My only conclusion was that his friends and family had to be messing with him.
Dr Fred A Wolf
QUOTE (POLY FRACT+Oct 25 2009, 10:48 AM)
My only conclusion was that his friends and family had to be messing with him.

With pneumatic drills to the head, naturally. smile.gif
rpenner
Almost certainly an A-bomb would change the course of a tornado through gross heating effects on the atmosphere as the fireball ascends to the troposphere. Of course, since A-bombs sometimes set off firestorms, which are like a whole mess of tornados ON FIRE, they are not the cure-all the OP seeks.
light in the tunnel
QUOTE (MjolnirPants+Oct 25 2009, 01:52 AM)
Alternately, build a dome-shaped building of poured concrete with rebar.

There are very interesting and economical technologies for building such domes. There is a company, called American Ingenuity I believe, that manufactures insulated triangular-shaped panels for building geodesic dome houses. They are easy to assemble. You just put the triangles together with clips and then fill the the gaps between them with concrete.

There's also a neat technique that involves inflating a large balloon and then covering it with wire mesh and finally concrete. Then the balloon is deflated and removed from the interior. There's one on the beach at Pensacola, Florida built to withstand hurricanes, which you can google.

I don't think these can withstand the kind of nuclear explosions and fire storms described in rpenner's post, but maybe I should read the website more closely:)
eggster7
I've also learned through Secretary of defense Bob Gates, that all Military branches have direct orders to not shoot any type of weapons at tornadoes.

I guess that since the bullets and bombs will just pass through the swirling winds, A, they won't be too effective, and B, the bullets and bombs might just land at your house, and C, obviously, because of the wasted time and costs.

Back on topic, I like the geodisic dome and mesh-netted ballon structures for high and twisting wind resisting, but my house is shaped like a cube, with sharp-angled roof lines, and my Family enjoys it very much. Since continuous steel strapping is available in building supply stores, along with connecting hardware and nails, this looks like the least expensive way to protect my house from tornadoes and hurricanes, maybe even earthquakes.

Thanks for the stabs at choices A and B in my original question, Peace on!!
Matador
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Capracus
Sending a massive flock of trained starlings to spoil the vortical formation should stop any tornado dead in its tracks.
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eggster7
For your viewing pleasure on the discovery and development of continuous reinforcing steel strapping, check out the Tor-Eggs-Tor Design Solutions website and video links to system presentation and successful collision force impact testing.


rpenner
A murder of crows.
A flock of sheep.
A gaggle of geese.
A parliament of owls.
A mess of (in-preparation-to-be-eaten) fish.

What's the standard collective noun for tornados? Pardon my ignorance, but I have never seen more than one at a time.
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (rpenner+Nov 3 2009, 01:20 PM)
A murder of crows.
A flock of sheep.
A gaggle of geese.
A parliament of owls.
A mess of (in-preparation-to-be-eaten) fish.

What's the standard collective noun for tornados? Pardon my ignorance, but I have never seen more than one at a time.

May I suggest "A Clusterf%#$ of Tornadoes?"
eggster7
QUOTE (buttershug+Oct 25 2009, 12:48 AM)
Build it below ground.

Too expensive, how do you dispoae trash and liquid waste?
rpenner
Cheap was never one of your listed criteria.
eggster7
QUOTE (rpenner+Nov 10 2009, 05:39 AM)
Cheap was never one of your listed criteria.

Affordability is constant one of three Engineers, Architects, Builders, Manufacturers Main Principles!!

Safety, Affordability, and Pliability (the ability to assemble end-products).

If the product is more expensive than affordable, no profits can be obtained, businesses shut down, Customers have to make own products.

Professional Engineers say the best way to divert tornadoes around buildings is to add Flexure, Tensile-Resistance, Elasticity. Adding to building materials too expensive, lowers pliabilities. Adding material strength, size also too expensive. Changing all buildings to dome/half-egg shapes way too expensive (and sight sore), Adding non-flexible reinforcing expensive, but not working good enough, so most affordable method of adding force-compatable Flexure, Tensile-Resistance, and Elasticity to building and structure frame assemblages is to add a singular continuous reinforcing element along the frame.

Installed-Flexible, continuously assembled steel strapping reinforcing, that matches the frame assemblage shapes, improves the structural performances of the frames, are easier to install than either adding material weight and size, easier to install than adding multiple, various location, non-flexible reinforcing products, adds the needed Flexure, Tensile-Resistance, and Elasticity, and meets all three Professional Engineers Principles of Safety, Affordability, and Pliability!!

Structural Performance Improvements, without the added costs of time, materials, and labor is Affordable, not cheap!! Affordability includes Design, Construction, and Durability of end products, in this case Structural Frame Assemblages of houses, cars, planes, boats, fuel and storage tanks, power generators, levees and bridges, and so on. How would you build an underground levee or dam? How would an Architect build an underground glass window building? How would you drive an underground car? How expensive would it be to move all the highways and train tracks across the country underground? What would our Social Status become as underground dwellers?

Structural Strap-Nets and Extensions improve all types of above-ground buildings and structures to the same safety levels as underground structures, affordably!!

vkamath
Feed all parameters of the weather into a massively parallel super-computer to determine the exact co-ordinates in space and time of the origin a Tornado. Go there and stamp it out.
Alaxir Zoa
Superman.
orestis
QUOTE (rpenner+Nov 3 2009, 01:20 PM)


What's the standard collective noun for tornados? Pardon my ignorance, but I have never seen more than one at a time.

I have heard swarm used.

This site has real and suggested collective nouns:

http://www.ojohaven.com/collectives/

Examples.

An annoyance of mobile phones (-suggested by kenneth.crane@ntlworld.com-)

A belt of asteroids (-submitted by Jason Harris, harrij1@weiss.che.utexas.edu-)

A chattering of choughs

A pencil of lines (proper contemporary group term in mathematics. -submitted by ojo6-)
eggster7
QUOTE (Alaxir Zoa+Nov 11 2009, 12:52 AM)
Superman.

Can't take that credit, as the concept of continuous structural frame assemblage reinforcing has been around for years, way before I was born; but can take credit for being the first in figuring out how to best install continuous flexible steel reinforcing!! Outraced a whole lot of engineers and scientists!!

Thanks for the superman reference, but that should go to the structural strap-nets systems, not me.

God Bless and Speed; Randy

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