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Phil Henshaw
One of the interesting things about sustainability science is that it is includes a lot of learning about how the rules of natural systems are changing. It treats natural systems as constantly creating new problems for us to unravel. It's a rather different expertise than most of the other sciences. A good example is the evidence that the complexity of the problems we're trying to solve are getting increasingly complex as if without bound. That points to an approach of insolvability if the pattern were to persist, which seems quite likely.

While requiring a lot of insight into how science works with rules that treat natural systems as deterministic processes, sustainability is really more about why those models need to be used to ask questions about the real systems of nature, and where they are headed that the models would never suggest.

How about a forum dedicated to that learning process?

Phil
TheDoc
Interesting. It would have to be heavily moderated, though - there are several cranks out there who would be eager to make that forum their playground.

Still...you may be on to something here ph34r.gif
Sapo
Or here, if there's enough interest from the members. I find the discussion fascinating, as well.
paradox42
QUOTE (TheDoc+May 10 2008, 08:26 PM)
Interesting. I am one of several cranks out there who would be eager to make this forum my playground.

Still...you may be on to something here, but you will never be rid of me.  laugh.gif  ph34r.gif

At least you have come to terms with reality. laugh.gif
TheDoc
QUOTE (paradox42+)
At least you have come to terms with reality.  laugh.gif


Come on - is making up quotes the best you've got? Surely you can do better...
Raphie Frank
A forum dedicated to Change & Sustainability is a great idea IMO, especially if the notion of Consilience (i.e. The "Jumping Together" of Knowledge) is incorporated. Interdiscplinary cooperation... it's a must going forward, again IMO.

Here's a related article:

A Threat So Big, Academics Try Collaboration
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/25/business/25sustain.html

Best,
Raphie
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