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alpha-bait
Apparently, there are so many punks running around, that the moderators can´t keep up.


It is clearly in violation of the agreement that we all have made in order to participate here, to post offensive materials. There is no loop-hole for the feedback section.


Any of you innocent "drivers" of vehicles involved in "drive-by shootings" are just as guilty - don´t kid yourself.

If I happen to T-bone the vehicle, in order to make a stop, and the drivers dies... NO ONE cares (except his mommy). This is life. That is Justice.


Guilt by association. This is what you affiliate yourself with, if you wear the label "forum mafia":

(in random order, regardless of to whom it was addressed)


#1. LeTUOtter Posted: Oct 3 2007, 05:09 PM (farsight feedback)
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#2. LeTUOtter Posted: Oct 10 2007, 06:47 PM (farsight feedback)
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I find making fun of people with disabilities to be offensive. I, and many other people around the world, spend a great deal of time raising money for these types. They need help, not ridicule. Putting them as representing "stupidity", as in the case of many opinions of farsights theory, is wrong.



LAW & ORDER
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(feel free to contribute any offensive posts that you find on this site here, where the moderators can see it)

#3. Dallas Posted: Oct 20 2007, 01:39 AM (farsight feedback)
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#4. Dallas Posted: Nov 7 2007, 07:01 AM (farsight feedback)
(the same image)


Each offense should get a warning; repeat offenders should be banned.. FOREVER. Stop being easy on them, they are playing you.

#5. Baby Posted: Nov 11 2007, 07:41 PM (farsight feedback)
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"Delusional double-dumbfukk"


Misspelling offensive words is no excuse.


Flagrant offensives should be banned without further warning.


Whatever steps that can be taken, to prevent "sock puppets", or previously banned members from signing up with a new e-mail (they are free and easy), and resuming there offensive behavior, should be taken.


LAW & ORDER
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#6. Alpha Posted: Nov 13 2007, 06:41 AM (farsight feedback)

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..you are one of the most disgusting and sick dumbfucks I have ever seen ..


#7. Alpha Posted: Nov 13 2007, 06:41 AM (farsight feedback)
(deserves it´s own, separate charge)
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This is as flagrant as it gets.

There is no reasonable excuse for this childish, rude, and offensive behavior.


CLEARLY against the policies of this Forum, and deserving IMMEDIATE, and PERMANENT banning.



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#8. BigDumbWeirdo Posted: Nov 21 2007, 06:25 PM (far sight feedback)
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Offensive. Border-line pornographic.


#9. N O M Posted: Nov 25 2007, 05:01 AM (farsight feedback)
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That covers just one members´feedback.


Yes, in case any are wondering, I am being "offensive" by posting these here. Apparently, that is what it is going to take.


If the moderators remove these pictures and words (from both their original homes, and here), in the future, I will only provide the details of WHERE these offenses are, so the moderators don´t have to WASTE their time reading feedback to find them.

( I am assuming that that is why they are not being dealt with.)


If this is not the case, and the moderators choose to leave them, I will follow the "scuttle-but" (behind the scenes chats) idea, and these offensive posts will find their way to the ADVERTISERS links on this site. There are groups that can SHUT THIS PLACE down with this method. It´s been done before, to bigger sites than this.




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occidental
I agree that using pictures of retarded people to make a point should be off limits, and I honestly regret that I am just as guilty of that offense in the past.

That being said, I still think this is funny:


In this scene from the Merkaba Kabuki Theater production of "mirror Me!" we see the famous moment when Lui (on left) informs Occidental of his "scientific evidence of a spiritual process".
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So where do we draw the line on what is and isnt appropriate? And does it matter if someone thinks a person deserves it? For example, sometimes people come here looking for an argument. One approach would be to simply ignore a "troll" like that, and they might go away. But just like feeding the pigeons, there can be a real sense of satisfaction in feeding the trolls, IF, in my opinion, they cross the line. The magical, only known to me, I know it when I see it line. So does an offensive person deserve to be given a picture with a gnome flipping them off? Its not the most offensive thing Ive seen, thats for sure. To tell you the truth, pissed off gnomes make me laugh. But does the context of why a person left that feedback matter?



yor_on
I agree on the pictures of retarded people.
They're not funny to anyone that actually know any such person.

As far as the Santa? and the one with the 'hand' i find them ok.
They might be rude but they are somewhat fun too:)

That doesn't mean that i will enjoy getting them though:)

What i find distasteful is using peoples photos for some egoistic 'sinister' purpose.
Especially when those being depicted can't defend them self from it.
As the guys doing it don't give a sh**.

But the lines are hard to draw i admit.
Still?
bukh
To even consider some type of censorship in the feed-back section is not a good idea. Feed back is very precise - actually like StevenA, I think that neg's from FM should be looked at as something very encouraging. Everyone know how to read the feed-backs after just a short while spent on the Forum. Persons who choose to be offensive display their brain and soul - and everyone is capable of judging.
N O M
This is extremely hypocritical and very cowardly of the member (or recently banned member maybe) who is using the sock-puppet alpha-bait to attack other members.
BigDumbWeirdo
Alpha-Bait's name itself is obviously intended to irk Alpha. The only people who would want to irk Alpha are those who already have handles on this board.
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A banned user, maybe? Well, that would violate the terms of service, now wouldn't it?
How hypocritical can one person be?
Gehn
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+Dec 7 2007, 10:15 PM)
Alpha-Bait's name itself is obviously intended to irk Alpha. The only people who would want to irk Alpha are those who already have handles on this board.
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A banned user, maybe? Well, that would violate the terms of service, now wouldn't it?
How hypocritical can one person be?

It's Bee, I'm betting. He was kicked, wasn't he?

- Gehn biggrin.gif
Sapo
QUOTE (alpha-bait+Jan 11 2008, 01:34 PM)


NOM, Alpha, and a few other names, that are either the same punk, or lessor cronies of AlphaNumeric, the "Godfather" of the organized crime found on this Forum.

(snipped)

More FYI, because you can´t seem to understand this basic concept. Everyone here, who is NOT using their real name, is a "sock puppet". The "forum mafia" are special "sock puppets", because they are the same person, with schizophrenic personalities. Trying to gang up on some, while self-rating each other, to make themselves look "smart and well liked". You "all" seem to be neither. If AN were to have only one membership, he would not enjoy "good relations" with as many as he has been able to, by manipulation. He is just smart enough, to separate his bad behavior by alternate names, so that he can wander freely, and do what comes natural. Psychopathic loser, of Internet fame. Remove you self-ratings, and you are in the same category as Zephir.


laugh.gif kaneda, is that you? So what?

I can personally verify that AlphaNumeric isn't Alpha, or Gehn, or me. So what?

You're so full of yourself I'll bet your hat size is 16¾! So the hell what?

Sapo
Cecil P Abstract
kaneda? .... more like the recently departed NeoNofukkingbrains if you ask me.

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BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (alpha-bait+Jan 11 2008, 01:34 PM)
Get a dictionary, and learn the word "hypocritical", as well as "cowardly". You´ve used them both incorrectly.

No, he didn't.

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You too, need to get a dictionary, and learn the word "hypocritical".

I did exactly that. When I was 5. I haven't forgotten the meaning, since.

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You too, need to get a dictionary, and learn the word "hypocritical".

I did exactly that. When I was 5. I haven't forgotten the meaning, since.

If a cop goes undercover, to break up organized crime, he is not a hypocrite, or a coward.  You guys are scum, we can use whatever means necessary to get the job done.  A controlled burn, does not make a firefighter an "arsonist".

Once again, we find some retarded imbecile comparing himself to favorable archetypes why comparing the FM to unfavorable archetypes.
First off, the hypocritical remarks refer to your name, you friggan mo'. Calling yourself "Alpha-Bait" and then whining about how offensive the FM is is hypocritical. Why don't YOU look up the definition? Secondly, it referred to your comments about the terms of use. Re-signing up to this board is a violation of the terms of use. Doubly hypocritical.

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FYI, I have never been "kicked", nor even warned.  Get over it.

Prove it.

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FYI, I have never been "kicked", nor even warned.  Get over it.

Prove it.

More FYI, because you can´t seem to understand this basic concept.  Everyone here, who is NOT using their real name, is a "sock puppet".

You're such a friggan mo'. That statement illustrates your idiocy quite nicely, thank you.

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The "forum mafia" are special "sock puppets", because they are the same person, with schizophrenic personalities.

Prove it.

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The "forum mafia" are special "sock puppets", because they are the same person, with schizophrenic personalities.

Prove it.

Trying to gang up on some, while self-rating each other, to make themselves look "smart and well liked". 

Aww, he seems to think the FM don't like each other. How cute is that? laugh.gif

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You "all" seem to be neither.  If AN were to have only one membership, he would not enjoy "good relations" with as many as he has been able to, by manipulation.

Another unbelievably stupid observation. Heaven forbid anyone should respect knowledge and intelligence... No, there's no way AN can have friends. He's just... I dunno, a poopyhead?

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You "all" seem to be neither.  If AN were to have only one membership, he would not enjoy "good relations" with as many as he has been able to, by manipulation.

Another unbelievably stupid observation. Heaven forbid anyone should respect knowledge and intelligence... No, there's no way AN can have friends. He's just... I dunno, a poopyhead?

He is just smart enough, to separate his bad behavior by alternate names, so that he can wander freely, and do what comes natural.

He's smart enough to show respect to those who warrant it, which engenders respect shown to him.

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Psychopathic loser, of Internet fame.  Remove you self-ratings, and you are in the same category as Zephir.

Idiot. Where has Zephir shown himself to have a degree in anything? Let alone a decent understanding of the subject of this entire forum: Physics.

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Psychopathic loser, of Internet fame.  Remove you self-ratings, and you are in the same category as Zephir.

Idiot. Where has Zephir shown himself to have a degree in anything? Let alone a decent understanding of the subject of this entire forum: Physics.

Of course, you will "all" go on and on, saying that you are not the same.  It doesn´t matter at this point.

Of course not. You are far too deluded to ever listen to logic.

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You are "all" indistinguishable.

Patently false.

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You are "all" indistinguishable.

Patently false.

Like all Godfathers of organized crime, many will come to your aid, saying you are an "upstanding citizen", who helps many.  While dirty deeds are done for you, by others.  The bottom line is, YOU are in "control" of these morons, and do nothing.  Guilty as charged.

ROFLMAO You're such a friggan mo'.

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LAW & ORDER

That must be a reference to your favorite TV show, because your posts indicate an inclination towards anarchy, rather than law, and chaos, rather than order.
Sapo
Do you think he'll show up on my Joint, too? sad.gif

Have you? laugh.gif
BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (Sapo+Jan 11 2008, 03:37 PM)
Do you think he'll show up on my Joint, too? sad.gif

Have you? laugh.gif

If he does, he'll be banned faster than you can say "Paranoid delusional crank with nothing better to do that waste time whining about the FM."

Actually, it'll be faster than you can say "Para-"

I for one think that the more people in your joint the better, but I do believe that people who show up for the express purpose of whining about the FM (which is all that Alpha-Bait has done here) are useless and annoying.
alpha-bait
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Poor alpha is on the ropes...

(80% warning level)

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Alpha Posted: Nov 1 2007, 12:58 AM

Motherfucker is back as "bheim". 

(zephir´s feedback)

I´ve had all the fun, does anyone else want to put the finishing touch on him?

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Since I´m such a nice guy, and apparently, there are complaints against the "law & order" use, I´m changing my "sign off".



TERMINATOR!
alpha-bait
Just in case another round is needed

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Alpha Posted: Oct 9 2007, 10:24 PM
Motherfucker is back as "Ragtime". 

(zephir´s feedback)



TERMINATOR!
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sapo
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I can personally verify that AlphaNumeric isn't Alpha, or Gehn, or me.


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Sorry, kiddo, you´re not a credible witness.


BdumbW, you still need to get a dictionary, and learn the word "hypocritical".

Are you having "problems" again?

You used the word "hypocritical" wrong. Period.


Now, you´re a liar too. "..When I was 5..".

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You are pathetic. Why were you guys replying here again?

Notice your "buddies" don´t? Now there is "cowardly" for you. Typical of "gang wannabees".


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I can personally verify that AlphaNumeric isn't Alpha, or Gehn, or me.


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Sorry, kiddo, you´re not a credible witness.


BdumbW, you still need to get a dictionary, and learn the word "hypocritical".

Are you having "problems" again?

You used the word "hypocritical" wrong. Period.


Now, you´re a liar too. "..When I was 5..".

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You are pathetic. Why were you guys replying here again?

Notice your "buddies" don´t? Now there is "cowardly" for you. Typical of "gang wannabees".


Calling yourself "Alpha-Bait" and then whining about how offensive the FM is is hypocritical.


WhaaaaT ??? Oh yeah, you don´t know that word yet.


The rest of your post was too moronic to reply to. That was a big waste of your time. You seem to do pretty well with the "indefensible" types, but you are out of your league with me, kiddo.


Just quit the "gang", and you´ll do much better.



TERMINATOR!
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BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (alpha-bait+Jan 25 2008, 01:45 PM)
Replies:
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BdumbW, you still need to get a dictionary, and learn the word "hypocritical".
...

ROFLMAO You're so stupid it's funny laugh.gif biggrin.gif
Confused2
Alpha-Bait:-

I see you are challenging my lack of authority around these parts (serious smilie not available )

A challenge must be met with a challenge (serious smilie still not available)

I suggest we throw virtual animals at each other **

Whether you agree or NOT .. first one coming ...

DUCK

(That was an easy one to start with)



** I give my word I would not do this with real animals.
Confused2
I'm not sure Darren has fully understood the rules of this virtual animal throwing thing.

CATch

The best animals will be gone shortly.
Darren
QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 25 2008, 11:03 PM)

The best animals will be gone shortly.

You mean the most intelligent, called thug greedy capitalist type, Yeah!, I'm in complete 100% agreement with you.


Cheers
Darren
Sapo
I don't think that was quite the point, but C2 might be right.
Darren
QUOTE (Sapo+Jan 25 2008, 11:17 PM)
I don't think that was quite the point, but C2 might be right.

Hey, Sapo,

How about re-education then?, on human survival during conventional warfare? biggrin.gif

Like studying the Southern African Bushman, and see if Baby Bush would like to see how Mr Bushman survived for what many years?, before Mr Europe invaded his lands? and pushed him out the way for his technocratic way?biggrin.gif

Hey don't worry Sapo, I'm not suggesting we kill baby Bush, far from it, I believe in life goes on, but he needs to understand American Socialist values which are currently pointing towards my centre right, maybe when he's ready, we can move back to centre political centre, Agree? biggrin.gif and no more deliberate death, okay?

Darren

"THEY"
QUOTE (Sapo+Jan 25 2008, 03:17 PM)
I don't think that was quite the point, but C2 might be right.

Yes, C2 is right.....

Darren is too slow to play along.

But then I have seen an email circulated several times about the "slow" kid that was allowed to play baseball with the kids and how it brightened his day. VERY touching email.

Should we let him play anyway?
Sapo
Sure! If I can play here, so can everyone else, right? sad.gif
N O M
I'm guessing this alpha-bait tosser is the return of the unlamented troll Kaneda, who was thrown off the site for boasting about his pedophile activities in Thailand.
Darren
Hey THEY,

I have two threads open down below in two learner hell models, too bleeding hot fer ya or what?

Wanna Negotiate with reason, eH?

You go right Ahead in a non-PM open way so the rest of the world can see,eH?

You're quite welcome to choose a mediator or talk to me direct. So go ahead.
Oh, and I've got TIKAY,DARIN and SAPO watching me, just in case there is disagreement between me and them, okay, is that fair? biggrin.gif

Sapo+Co are you all game?

Cheers
Darren
Darren
QUOTE (N O M+Jan 26 2008, 12:18 AM)
I'm guessing this alpha-bait tosser is the return of the unlamented troll Kaneda, who was thrown off the site for boasting about his pedophile activities in Thailand.



If you right about this NOM, I have a smart plan for these pedophile people, I'll ask the so called "third world" how to they deal with them, and go from there, with your help of course.

Cheers
Darren
alpha-bait
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This has sure been fun.


Dallas..

Alpha..

Darren..


ALL GONE.


NOM, I´ll be "tossing" you next.


Anybody else, who wants to step up, and fill their shoes, go ahead.

MAKE MY DAY!

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The idea here, is to promote a Scientific atmosphere. I have absolutely nothing against calling out "cranks". Just do it in a civil, professional manner, even if you are not a "professional" yourself. THIS is in the best interest's of the Forum, NOT childish, emotional tirades, and "gang piling". Help the cranks past their ignorance.


Or, risk being banned. Pretty simple. I´ve noticed a lessening of these offensive behaviors, but there is more to do.


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TERMINATOR.
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Sapo
ph34r.gif BwaaHaaHaa! Okie, dokie. cool.gif

Edit: Yes, it is, sort of...
Confused2
QUOTE (Alpha-bait+)
I´ve noticed a lessening of these offensive behaviors, but there is more to do.


Forgive me for I have sinned.

I have 60+ 'negs' and all I have ever wanted to do is exchange views with people who are interested in the way the universe works. Sometimes (just occasionally) I get a bit bitter about those 'negs'.

Best wishes -C2.
Sapo
C2, I've offered my handshake to you. I meant it, and still do.
Good Elf
Hi Confused2,

I have always had the highest regard for Confused2 and I think everyone should understand that these "feedback" notifications are a total waste and reflect nothing other than mob behavior. People have a right to be a little "bitter"... But should we respond in kind? This needs to be answered.

As to helping the moderators... I really don't know what they want to do with this forum removing the ability to have in-line images... At the same time they have "feedback". Is this the work of a fair minded and open scientific system? This can't help the discussion much other than generate this "bitterness". It just allows the lowest common denominator to "rule".

Every time people respond to this abuse from their fellow colleagues the abusers are probably getting a "rise" out of it... You are only "rewarding" them. I post nothing (positive or negative) in feedback and that should be the way all sane and fair minded people "respond" (I have had 3 exceptions in as many years and I wonder about even those). Perhaps we should only say things that are good about others but friends understand these things and don't need to be told about that. If you want to say something there are posts like this one here... Right?

So you get a lot of negative feedback and few positives... that is what the moderators seem to want. Every good and non-abusive member becomes dumped on and the perpetrators will go free. So abusers have no hits against their names and people who do not retaliate become full of these abuse statements like Confused2. That is the way the system is "designed". The moderators believe this will increase their numbers... or is there some other reason why this is is done? Is that your fault ... Absolutely not. Should you retaliate just because you are getting treated badly? No... that is the way a street brawl or mob violence works. It is what you get with this form of moral vacuum.

The leaders (moderators) are "leading" with a kind of morality that is actively producing the Forum they want. I think this leads to fewer return visits (... check out the numbers visiting this forum lately). That means less dollars in the moderators pockets. Prosperity and our freedoms can only come from the leadership and their willingness to see reason ... If leadership do not want it then you get the leadership you deserve not the leadership you want.

Cheers
Raphie Frank
To illustrate your point, Good Elf, here is a wonderful example of abuse (i.e. namecalling, arguable libel, etc.) in action...

QUOTE (Euler+Feb 9 2008, 09:04 AM)
This is what I cant stand about you idiots. You come on an internet forum with absolutely zip knowledge on a given subject, then throw words like "infinite", "axiom", "incomplete" in a hope to say something deep and meaningful, and then have the audacity to believe that what you're doing is anything other than a few stupid people talking on the internet.

You haven't a clue what you're talking about, and it's entirely transparent. People call you up on things because they don't like idiots sounding off on subjects they don't understand.


I believe this to be a flat out lie. This is one of the reasons I don't feel morally wrong for berating you people; you're all utterly dishonest. This is up there with your previous claim to "have purposely forgotten more mathematics than I know".

Prove me wrong: answer a question accessible to school children. Are you willing to step up to the plate?


On at least a slightly humorous note, the poster in question seems to feel his challenge to answer questions geared towards school-aged children has any relevancy whatsoever. He also seems to think that words such as "incompleteness," "infinite" and "axiom" are beyond the grasp of a non-physicist's understanding...

Best,
Raphie

P.S. In advance, note the vitriolic response this post will likely bring forth...

This post in reference to the below. I might add, Goodelf, that I share your high regard for C2.

QUOTE (Good Elf+Feb 10 2008, 05:26 AM)
Hi Confused2,

I have always had the highest regard for Confused2 and I think everyone should understand that these "feedback" notifications are a total waste and reflect nothing other than mob behavior. People have a right to be a little "bitter"... But should we respond in kind? This needs to be answered.

As to helping the moderators... I really don't know what they want to do with this forum  removing the ability to have in-line images... At the same time they have "feedback". Is this the work of a fair minded and open scientific system? This can't help the discussion much other than generate this "bitterness". It just allows the lowest common denominator to "rule".

Every time people respond to this abuse from their fellow colleagues the abusers are probably getting a "rise" out of it... You are only "rewarding" them. I post nothing (positive or negative) in feedback and that should be the way all sane and fair minded people "respond" (I have had 3 exceptions in as many years and I wonder about even those). Perhaps we should only say things that are good about others but friends understand these things and don't need to be told about that. If you want to say something there are posts like this one here... Right? 

So you get a lot of negative feedback and few positives... that is what the moderators seem to want. Every good and non-abusive member becomes dumped on and the perpetrators will go free. So abusers have no hits against their names and people who do not retaliate become full of these abuse statements like Confused2. That is the way the system is "designed". The moderators believe this will increase their numbers... or is there some other reason why this is is done?  Is that your fault ... Absolutely not. Should you retaliate just because you are getting treated badly? No... that is the way a street brawl or mob violence works. It is what you get with this form of moral vacuum.

The leaders (moderators) are "leading" with a kind of morality that is actively producing the Forum they want. I think this leads to fewer return visits (... check out the numbers visiting this forum lately). That means less dollars in the moderators pockets. Prosperity and our freedoms can only come from the leadership and their willingness to see reason ... If leadership do not want it then you get the leadership you deserve not the leadership you want.

Cheers
Raphie Frank
QUOTE (Confused2+Feb 9 2008, 09:29 PM)
... all I have ever wanted to do is exchange views with people who are interested in the way the universe works.

@C2

I share this sentiment.

Best,
Raphie
Good Elf
Hi Raphie Frank and Confused2 et al,

Sure... but how or why respond? Also why put their dumb flash in the pan statements into a "log" that lasts "forever". It can only make people very upset... to say the least. This is just one part of our lives but it can upset other parts of peoples lives... which may lead to unpredictable erratic behavior aimed randomly at total innocents.

I get that sort of thing driving to work with very angry people that probably have had a break up with their wife and instead of hitting her they hit you instead... with a car. blink.gif That is the sort of people they are...

Case in point was an individual in my city last week that was driving along a straight patch of suburban road in broad daylight with no hazards or obstructions when this individual swerved off the bitumen up onto the footpath while flattening the accelerator to the floor and striking two school aged children sending one of them 80 meters through the air and the other into the fence. One dead (instantly) and the other may probably die. The individual had a hearing in court the next day and laughed all the way through the hearing ... outside while under police escort this individual laughed and mocked the television cameras and appeared to be waving to friends.

Retaliation is not the answer... you can never know where and with whom it ends.

Cheers

PS: Thanks for that support for C2.. I can only concur.
Raphie Frank
QUOTE (Good Elf+Feb 10 2008, 05:56 AM)
Sure... but how or why respond? Also why put their dumb flash in the pan statements into a "log" that lasts "forever".

I will tell you why, Goodelf. Because these statements have ALREADY been "logged" "forever" and risk hurting others. If not responded to, then only the one side of the story will have been told.

That's unacceptable.

To me at least...

What's more, there are some on these boards who actively "pursue" and harrass others.

Even more unacceptable.

Best,
Raphie

P.S. Forgive the economic metaphors (I am son and grandson to economists so it's "in the blood" so to speak...), but the moderators of this board, by and large, seem to take an Adam Smith "Invisible Hand" approach, which is not necessarily bad or good, but it is a pretty big risk, because, while all systems may be "self-organizing," they don't always self-organize in a manner that is in accord with the "Good of the People." At times a little "Keynsian Nudge" is required. That said, the Invisible Hand WILL take care of matters, in all likelihood. If this type of harrassment continues from self-styled Lubos Motl wannabe's, Physorg users will gravitate to Physics Forums and Physorg Forum may well die the long slow death some have predicted.

That would be a pity.
Good Elf
Hi Raphie Frank and Confused2 et al,

QUOTE (Raphie Frank+)
I will tell you why, Goodelf. Because these statements have ALREADY been "logged" "forever" and risk hurting others. If not responded to, then only the one side of the story will have been told.
Many good people live lonely lives of silent desperation. Compared with the problems in the World where every day people are hacked to death by machete or starve, or the victims of war this stuff is "peanuts". Yet to some who are concerned only about their own personal pursuit, these issues may be blown up into major conflict and the aggression created find out the nearest available targets. In the end each of us will die alone even if it is by an atomic weapon hitting our city, and the reasons for that passing will define that individuals life. It would be a tragedy if lives are spent in acts of revenge or violence just so their story is told. I guess the bottom line is this is not the place to find friendship or lasting relationships... It is "Hell" unless we all work together.
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+)
What's more, there are some on these boards who actively "pursue" and harrass others.

Even more unacceptable.
Of course... the answer lies with Moderators and with proper sensitive management of situations.

Cheers
Raphie Frank
Indeed, Goodelf, it's all RELATIVE...

OOPS

I'm not allowed to use that word unless I've a degree in physics :-)

Best,
Raphie

Oh, and what does "incompleteness" mean again? I've completely lapsed on my kiddie math and they never taught me that word in English class... :-)
RealityCheck
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Feb 10 2008, 06:21 AM)
Indeed, Goodelf, it's all RELATIVE...

OOPS

I'm not allowed to use that word unless I've a degree in physics :-)

Best,
Raphie

Oh, and what does "incompleteness" mean again? I've completely lapsed on my kiddie math and they never taught me that word in English class... :-)



Hi Good Elf, Raphie Frank, everyone! Just dropped in before retiring for the evening.

Yeah, GE, RF, it is 'difficult' when 'monkeys' run around thinking the world revolves around them, isn't it? hehehe.

[And yeah, you're right, Raphie (and OldWoman1904 too).....it's hard to know what to do about the 'monkeys'. hehehe.]

But like GE says, only the mods/admin can 'settle' the 'monkeys'. hehehe.

Goodnight all....including the 'monkeys'!

RC.
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StevenA
I've never reported anyone but I'd say there are at least a couple posts in my feedback that are purely harassing in their "spam content":

Here's one by Alpha, and I'll quote it:

QUOTE (Alpha+)
Complete wanker and imbecile. One of the worst trolls on the planet Earth. FOAD dumbshit.
Complete wanker and imbecile. One of the worst trolls on the planet Earth. FOAD dumbshit.
Complete wanker and imbecile. One of the worst trolls on the planet Earth. FOAD dumbshit.
Complete wanker and imbecile. One of the worst trolls on the planet Earth. FOAD dumbshit.
Complete wanker and imbecile. One of the worst trolls on the planet Earth. FOAD dumbshit.
Complete wanker and imbecile. One of the worst trolls on the planet Earth. FOAD dumbshit.
Complete wanker and imbecile. One of the worst trolls on the planet Earth. FOAD dumbshit.
Complete wanker and imbecile. One of the worst trolls on the planet Earth. FOAD dumbshit.
Complete wanker and imbecile. One of the worst trolls on the planet Earth. FOAD dumbshit.
...
...
...
(etc. for hundreds of lines)
Cecil P Abstract


I don't know how to report a comment in feedback, but maybe someone else knows how to report it.

There's another similar massive spam by him on my feedback as well.

I'll refrain from quoting the entire post, but it goes like this:

QUOTE (Alpha+)
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
F*CKING IMBECILE
...
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...
(etc. for hundreds of lines)
vkamath
I noticed that after the expulsion (after 5 warnings) of Dallas, Alpha and einstienear the forum has regained some sanity. I hope the civil atmosphere will continue. smile.gif
Zarabtul
I'm glad to see some civility back though i still wonder about NOM with his comments in my feedback.
Euler
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Feb 10 2008, 05:35 AM)
... here is a wonderful example of abuse ...
QUOTE (Euler+)
This is what I cant stand about you idiots. You come on an internet forum with absolutely zip knowledge on a given subject, then throw words like "infinite", "axiom", "incomplete" in a hope to say something deep and meaningful, and then have the audacity to believe that what you're doing is anything other than a few stupid people talking on the internet.

You haven't a clue what you're talking about, and it's entirely transparent. People call you up on things because they don't like idiots sounding off on subjects they don't understand.


I believe this to be a flat out lie. This is one of the reasons I don't feel morally wrong for berating you people; you're all utterly dishonest. This is up there with your previous claim to "have purposely forgotten more mathematics than I know".

Prove me wrong: answer a question accessible to school children. Are you willing to step up to the plate?

And I'd say it again! You people are stupid, in my humble opinion. I'm not using the word "idiot" as some generic insult: I genuinely think you people are dim. For instance, you've admitted you probably wouldn't pass a high school maths exam, and then make posts linking to wiki pages on exceptional Lie groups. That's not the act of a bright individual...
Raphie Frank
QUOTE (Euler+Feb 11 2008, 07:54 AM)
And I'd say it again! You people are stupid, in my humble opinion. I'm not using the word "idiot" as some generic insult: I genuinely think you people are dim. For instance, you've admitted you probably wouldn't pass a high school maths exam, and then make posts linking to wiki pages on exceptional Lie groups. That's not the act of a bright individual...


I am beginning to wonder Euler, if you don't suffer from a thought disorder. You are now at the point of complete fabrication. I never even remotely said I could not pass a high school math exam.

For the record, you are insulting repeatedly someone who scored well in to the 99.9th percentile on every standardized aptitude test he ever took (both verbal AND math).

Go ahead and call me a "liar" Euler. The more you insult me, the greater a fool you will make of yourself.

Best,
Raphie

P.S. Perhaps "emotionally disturbed" might be the proper term to describe you...

P.P.S. I have no desire to take a high school math exam, as I already passed those tests 20+ years ago, so please do not bore me with your kiddie math challenges :-)
Euler
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Feb 11 2008, 09:04 AM)
I never even remotely said I could not pass a high school math exam.

Ahem...
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Nov 23 2007, 06:25 PM)
...you are correct regarding the level of mathematical knowledge I have, at least in terms of formulas and equations, versus many high school students....

Raphie Frank
Ahem...

Key Excerpt from below
------------------------------
I said that high school students in terms of EQUATIONS & FORMULAS might be ahead of me mathematically, not in terms of understanding of concepts which is far more important.
------------------------------

Aside from there being no mention of exams in what you quoted, and aside from the fact that you are merely extending to the present a rather gross distortion dating back to several months ago, let me make it clear, Euler, I phrased what I wrote the way I phrased it in quite specific fashion and for quite specific reason.

It has nothing to do with me being dumb or an "idiot," Euler. Rather, your generation, as a generation (and I assume you are in your early 20's) is one I believe to be EXTREMELY gifted. If you read my essay "All Alone is All We Will One Day Once Have Been," about what I term the "Quick Generation," perhaps you will better understand, but I'm not banking on it.

All Alone is All We Will One Day Once Have Been
http://raphie.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/gen...once-have-been/

Best,
Raphie

QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Nov 25 2007, 02:05 AM)

Feel free to tell me I don't know the math, but PLEASE do not tell me I do not understand the concepts. And, by the way, if I LINK to something using a term, this does NOT mean I presume to know everything contained within the link, particularly where math and physics is involved.

As for the email I sent you, that you publicly called "inane," feel free to share it with Alphanumeric because he has suddenly gone quite suspicious on me. I did not say much more than that my father was tenured at 31 at Princeton (Economics) and that if you believed intelligence an inherited trait, then you might surmise that I am no dummy, since you have attacked my intelligence and one can not defend oneself on that account, especially publicly, without sounding like a dumba** I will add to that, that my mother was the first woman to drop out of Princeton because she was in the first class of female graduate students there, and she left to marry my father when he went off to teach in Africa...

So... feel free to call my mother a Grad school drop-out... as you insult my intelligence repeatedly based on a thoroughly limited perspective. I said that high school students in terms of EQUATIONS & FORMULAS might be ahead of me mathematically, not in terms of understanding of concepts which is far more important. So happens, my mother became a lawyer later... and I am the only one in my nuclear or extended family WITHOUT an advanced degree; and there is a reason for that and if you study up on the gifted you may learn a thing or two.

I also asked you, basically, to not be a part of the problem regarding censorship, which you are being 100% at the moment. And right here is a link to me PUBLICLY asking you as much with respect to me personally...
Euler
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Feb 11 2008, 04:30 PM)
Aside from there being no mention of exams in what you quoted...

How do you propose to pass an exam that relies on knowledge you've admitted you don't have?

We can settle this immediately: I can provide you with a high school exam question that would take no more than a couple of minutes to answer. This gives you the chance to back up your statements and prove my assessment wrong (which is that your are a liar and an idiot).

BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (Euler+Feb 11 2008, 12:10 PM)
How do you propose to pass an exam that relies on knowledge you've admitted you don't have?

We can settle this immediately: I can provide you with a high school exam question that would take no more than a couple of minutes to answer. This gives you the chance to back up your statements and prove my assessment wrong (which is that your are a liar and an idiot).

Do it.
Do it.
Do it.
Do it.
DO IT!!!!!
smile.gif
N O M
QUOTE (vkamath+Feb 11 2008, 05:06 PM)
I noticed that after the expulsion (after 5 warnings) of Dallas, Alpha and einstienear the forum has regained some sanity.

That's a coincidence, I noticed that after the expulsion of Mediocre-Minded, physicsguy, Millenium, Paulo Riven, cyborg1, Morpheus, bigmistakes, Terry Giblin, Zephir, Mirrorman, Imagination, Chris Rivos, soultechs, kaneda, Neo.noone, Atl5p and einsteinear the forum has regained some sanity too laugh.gif
Euler
QUOTE (Euler+Feb 11 2008, 05:10 PM)
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+)
Aside from there being no mention of exams in what you quoted...

How do you propose to pass an exam that relies on knowledge you've admitted you don't have?

We can settle this immediately: I can provide you with a high school exam question that would take no more than a couple of minutes to answer. This gives you the chance to back up your statements and prove my assessment wrong (which is that your are a liar and an idiot).

I would like to remind all that this offer still stands...
Raphie Frank
Thank you Euler. One of these days I may take you up on it, but for now, the only test I will study for is the GRE's. I missed them last year for a variety of reasons, and the cost is having to wait another year to apply to grad school.

Best,
Raphie
Euler
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Feb 13 2008, 08:49 AM)
...but for now, the only test I will study for is the GRE's...

You think you'd need to study before being able to answer a maths question accessible to school children? That doesn't make any sense: you've claimed here to be reading Polchinski's book. The perquisites to being able to understand anything in that book are about 9yrs of intensive study beyond the level of question I'm willing to provide.

I'm beginning to think my assessment of you is fairly accurate...
Raphie Frank
I also used to be be almost fluent in Spanish, Euler, but I would have to study in rather serious manner to take a Spanish exam as most of the knowledge is "submerged" in the sense that it is not readily accessible to consciousness. You're too young to understand quite honestly. But let me try to give you an example. Here are Newton's three laws of motion:

I. Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.

II. The relationship between an object's mass m, its acceleration a, and the applied force F is F = ma. Acceleration and force are vectors (as indicated by their symbols being displayed in slant bold font); in this law the direction of the force vector is the same as the direction of the acceleration vector.

III. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/hi...ewton3laws.html

Do you REALLY think if someone can not tell you Newton's three laws of motion this means they do not understand the above-stated concepts? To be able to name a concept and to understand the concept are two very different modes of knowledge.

Yoiu are very amusing, truth be told.

Best,
Raphie

P.S. In many respects, mathematics is no less so a language than Spanish or Czech, Czech, incidentally being a language I yet still speak passably on a conversational level.
tikay
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Feb 11 2008, 09:30 AM)


All Alone is All We Will One Day Once Have Been
http://raphie.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/gen...once-have-been/

Best,
Raphie


VERY NICE!
Euler
And I reiterate:
QUOTE (Euler+)
That doesn't make any sense: you've claimed here to be reading Polchinski's book. The perquisites to being able to understand anything in that book are about 9yrs of intensive study beyond the level of question I'm willing to provide.

So are you reading Polchinski, or was that a lie? If you are reading said book, you wont need to study children's material...

Which is it?
Sapo
QUOTE (tikay+Feb 13 2008, 12:17 PM)
VERY NICE!

Double-down on my ditto, Raphie. Excellent style, too. Thank you!
Derek1148
QUOTE (Sapo+Feb 13 2008, 07:40 PM)
Double-down on my ditto, Raphie. Excellent style, too. Thank you!

Agreed.
Euler
QUOTE (Euler+Feb 13 2008, 07:34 PM)
And I reiterate:
QUOTE (Euler+)
That doesn't make any sense: you've claimed here to be reading Polchinski's book. The perquisites to being able to understand anything in that book are about 9yrs of intensive study beyond the level of question I'm willing to provide.

So are you reading Polchinski, or was that a lie? If you are reading said book, you wont need to study children's material...

Which is it?

Now what to conclude about the lack of response...

QUOTE (Euler+)
This gives you the chance to back up your statements and prove my assessment wrong (which is that your are a liar and an idiot).
alpha-bait
laugh.gif


I´m still laughing at you! Who is worse, the idiot-cranks, or the idiot-egotists who chat with them?


Bye-bye "TheDoc"; the latest sock-puppet-come-back to fail.


But, I see the original fool is back again.

laugh.gif


Total loser(s)!


One thing at least. Since getting their rears spanked, there hasn't been anybody mouthing off like before. Even NOM straightened up a bit. (pun for the x-erect member)


Who will be next?

unsure.gif



Sapo
QUOTE (alpha-bait+Apr 22 2008, 05:04 PM)
laugh.gif


I´m still laughing at you!  Who is worse,  the idiot-cranks, or the idiot-egotists who chat with them?


Bye-bye "TheDoc"; the latest sock-puppet-come-back to fail.


But, I see the original fool is back again.

laugh.gif


Total loser(s)!


One thing at least.  Since getting their rears spanked, there hasn't been anybody mouthing off like before.  Even NOM straightened up a bit. (pun for the x-erect member)


Who will be next?

unsure.gif
QUOTE ("Alpha-bait's signature"+)
Associating yourself with self-proclaimed "mafia" titles won´t make your testicles drop any faster. Your speck of knowledge means nothing without any skill at mastering your emotions.


I see you have mastered your emotions. Otherwise, you'd trouble yourself to mock those you claim to be above. Laudable, indeed.
Sapo
TheDoc asked me to relay a message to you, alpha-bait:

Come and read it here, at the Joint.
Speculative_Genius
QUOTE (Sapo+Apr 22 2008, 10:13 PM)
[/QUOTE]

I see you have mastered your emotions. Otherwise, you'd trouble yourself to mock those you claim to be above. Laudable, indeed.

This is certainly an interesting topic....
Sandra doliak
QUOTE (Sapo+Jan 11 2008, 08:37 PM)
Do you think he'll show up on my Joint, too? sad.gif

Have you? laugh.gif

Hey, is it ok if I register?

Sandra biggrin.gif
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