Well my girlfriend has Anorexia.
I really want to help her.
What can I do?
Thanks so much,
QUOTE (markslater88+Feb 28 2009, 01:59 PM)
Well my girlfriend has Anorexia.
I really want to help her.
What can I do?
Thanks so much,
If your girlfriend has anorexia she is in need of therapy. Anorexia is the product of self image problems. If you really want to help her you contact a psychiatrist and help her through the process of dealing with her insecurities. Anorexia is a terrible disorder, you should voice your concerns to a mental health professional sooner rather than later and get an official opinion about the course of action that you should undertake.
I really want to help her.
What can I do?
Thanks so much,
If your girlfriend has anorexia she is in need of therapy. Anorexia is the product of self image problems. If you really want to help her you contact a psychiatrist and help her through the process of dealing with her insecurities. Anorexia is a terrible disorder, you should voice your concerns to a mental health professional sooner rather than later and get an official opinion about the course of action that you should undertake.
I agree with all of that except for the second sentence, where I would qualify it with a "probably" in the absence of a citation to medical literature. The cause of anorexia nervosa is a matter of active research.
But I had assumed you had a diagnosis already and were engaged in treatment already since anorexia is a diagnosis, not a symptom. Presumably a doctor has made this pronouncement and it is not a boyfriend's complaint that she is merely "too skinny." In addition, anorexia nervosa is often accompanied with other medical and psychological problems. So actual medical treatment is a necessity.
Even if you have no insurance, your better medical facilities will have systems or libraries to get specific advice on this specific problem.
http://www.medicinenet.com/anorexia_nervosa/article.htm
But I had assumed you had a diagnosis already and were engaged in treatment already since anorexia is a diagnosis, not a symptom. Presumably a doctor has made this pronouncement and it is not a boyfriend's complaint that she is merely "too skinny." In addition, anorexia nervosa is often accompanied with other medical and psychological problems. So actual medical treatment is a necessity.
Even if you have no insurance, your better medical facilities will have systems or libraries to get specific advice on this specific problem.
http://www.medicinenet.com/anorexia_nervosa/article.htm
QUOTE (rpenner+Feb 28 2009, 09:44 PM)
I agree with all of that except for the second sentence, where I would qualify it with a "probably" in the absence of a citation to medical literature. The cause of anorexia nervosa is a matter of active research.
But I had assumed you had a diagnosis already and were engaged in treatment already since anorexia is a diagnosis, not a symptom. Presumably a doctor has made this pronouncement and it is not a boyfriend's complaint that she is merely "too skinny." In addition, anorexia nervosa is often accompanied with other medical and psychological problems. So actual medical treatment is a necessity.
Even if you have no insurance, your better medical facilities will have systems or libraries to get specific advice on this specific problem.
http://www.medicinenet.com/anorexia_nervosa/article.htm
Rpenner - I also assumed that he had a diagnosis already; I was trying to stress the importance of seeking out the aid of a mental health professional rather than just treating the visible physical symptoms of the disorder.
I also realize that there are many factors involved with the cause of AN. I will start a topic on the subject as soon as I have a chance.
But I had assumed you had a diagnosis already and were engaged in treatment already since anorexia is a diagnosis, not a symptom. Presumably a doctor has made this pronouncement and it is not a boyfriend's complaint that she is merely "too skinny." In addition, anorexia nervosa is often accompanied with other medical and psychological problems. So actual medical treatment is a necessity.
Even if you have no insurance, your better medical facilities will have systems or libraries to get specific advice on this specific problem.
http://www.medicinenet.com/anorexia_nervosa/article.htm
Rpenner - I also assumed that he had a diagnosis already; I was trying to stress the importance of seeking out the aid of a mental health professional rather than just treating the visible physical symptoms of the disorder.
I also realize that there are many factors involved with the cause of AN. I will start a topic on the subject as soon as I have a chance.
QUOTE (markslater88+Feb 28 2009, 01:59 PM)
Well my girlfriend has Anorexia.
I really want to help her.
What can I do?
Thanks so much,
What are her symptoms?
I really want to help her.
What can I do?
Thanks so much,
What are her symptoms?
Let her know you love her and care about her. Tell her what you feel when she does anorexic behavior. Such as, I feel scare when I see you so painfully thin and not eating. I’m afraid you are going to die. I feel helpless when I hear you want reassurance that you are not fat. Let her know you what her to seek consultation with a medical doctor and therapist who specialized in anorexia. Support her by accompanying her to the appointments.
She needs help. You need support, too. Remember to take care of yourself in the process.
To learn more about anorexia and treatment options, visit the bella vita website.
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She needs help. You need support, too. Remember to take care of yourself in the process.
To learn more about anorexia and treatment options, visit the bella vita website.
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QUOTE (markslater88+Feb 28 2009, 01:59 PM)
Well my girlfriend has Anorexia.
I really want to help her.
What can I do?
Thanks so much,
Hi,
An anorexic can be treated in an outpatient with a general practitioner, nutritionist, and psychiatrist/therapist.Anorexia nervosa is loss of appetite resulting from nervous anxiety. This nervous condition is self induced and more commonly found in the young women.
I really want to help her.
What can I do?
Thanks so much,
Hi,
An anorexic can be treated in an outpatient with a general practitioner, nutritionist, and psychiatrist/therapist.Anorexia nervosa is loss of appetite resulting from nervous anxiety. This nervous condition is self induced and more commonly found in the young women.
If I am wrong I apologise but this thread and the style of the opening post bear a remarkable resemblance to similar spoof threads started by a certain member some time back.
I suggest the matter be referred th TheDoc - he has a lot of experience in such matters.
I suggest the matter be referred th TheDoc - he has a lot of experience in such matters.
Yes, I know. That's why I'm not helping by hyperlinking to the website the new users mention. It looks like a CAM site and not a evidence-based medicine site.
But let's not live in the past. It's entirely possible that instead of seeking help from an actual doctor or a web site which has a good ranking on Google or Yahoo for medical answers, that this person would feel comfortable asking this website for advice. We may question their epistemology, but from the milk of human kindness, let's not question their motives -- until we develop at least a prima facie case, OK?
But let's not live in the past. It's entirely possible that instead of seeking help from an actual doctor or a web site which has a good ranking on Google or Yahoo for medical answers, that this person would feel comfortable asking this website for advice. We may question their epistemology, but from the milk of human kindness, let's not question their motives -- until we develop at least a prima facie case, OK?
QUOTE (rpenner+Mar 3 2009, 02:05 PM)
. It's entirely possible that instead of seeking help from an actual doctor or a web site which has a good ranking on Google or Yahoo for medical answers, that this person would feel comfortable asking this website for advice. We may question their epistemology, but from the milk of human kindness, let's not question their motives -- until we develop at least a prima facie case, OK?
I wouldn't question his motives, but I'd surely question his judgment.
I wouldn't question his motives, but I'd surely question his judgment.
Agreed - always best to err on the side of caution and restraint with posts of this nature - ALTHOUGH .... TheDoc gave me a neg - allegedly for something else - as soon as he saw my last post !!
QUOTE (rpenner+Mar 3 2009, 07:05 PM)
Yes, I know. That's why I'm not helping by hyperlinking to the website the new users mention. It looks like a CAM site and not a evidence-based medicine site.
But let's not live in the past. It's entirely possible that instead of seeking help from an actual doctor or a web site which has a good ranking on Google or Yahoo for medical answers, that this person would feel comfortable asking this website for advice. We may question their epistemology, but from the milk of human kindness, let's not question their motives -- until we develop at least a prima facie case, OK?
I have some medical expertise. When I was in college my girlfriend was pre-med.
But let's not live in the past. It's entirely possible that instead of seeking help from an actual doctor or a web site which has a good ranking on Google or Yahoo for medical answers, that this person would feel comfortable asking this website for advice. We may question their epistemology, but from the milk of human kindness, let's not question their motives -- until we develop at least a prima facie case, OK?
I have some medical expertise. When I was in college my girlfriend was pre-med.
This is a PhysForum - not a chat site for medical disorders -
Having that said - I am not overtly concerned about how individuals seek information - and a physician is not necessarily a better source or a better discussion partner than many other alternatives -
As soon as it is about health and diseases there is a tendency that everyone gets into the red - concerned about responsibilities - who can say what and why and who cannot - and really it is on the bottom line a question of self-responsibility. I am physician myself - and often my clients are more educated via the net than most doctors like to admit.
But now that we have moderation - I would advocate that any thread dealing with personal health issues should not appear in this Forum.
Having that said - I am not overtly concerned about how individuals seek information - and a physician is not necessarily a better source or a better discussion partner than many other alternatives -
As soon as it is about health and diseases there is a tendency that everyone gets into the red - concerned about responsibilities - who can say what and why and who cannot - and really it is on the bottom line a question of self-responsibility. I am physician myself - and often my clients are more educated via the net than most doctors like to admit.
But now that we have moderation - I would advocate that any thread dealing with personal health issues should not appear in this Forum.
QUOTE (bukh+Mar 4 2009, 03:05 PM)
This is a PhysForum - not a chat site for medical disorders -
But now that we have moderation - I would advocate that any thread dealing with personal health issues should not appear in this Forum.
There is nothing wrong with seeking anecdotal opinions on medical conditions. With, of course, the caveat to seek assistance from medical professionals. Even then, if a radical procedure is advised, get a second (or third, or fourth) opinion. Doctors are like car mechanics; their level of skill varies.
But now that we have moderation - I would advocate that any thread dealing with personal health issues should not appear in this Forum.
There is nothing wrong with seeking anecdotal opinions on medical conditions. With, of course, the caveat to seek assistance from medical professionals. Even then, if a radical procedure is advised, get a second (or third, or fourth) opinion. Doctors are like car mechanics; their level of skill varies.
Bukh -- the two new posters whose names end in 88 may have started the thread as advertising for a specific Los Angeles site run by a celebrity Psychologist and not apparently an M.D. despite having "hospitalization facilities."
I'm all for discussing things, but I'm trying to avoid the giving of medical advice when there is no practical way to verify medical credentials, or indeed sanity and/or good will on the Internet.
I'm all for discussing things, but I'm trying to avoid the giving of medical advice when there is no practical way to verify medical credentials, or indeed sanity and/or good will on the Internet.
QUOTE (rpenner+Mar 4 2009, 07:35 PM)
Bukh -- the two new posters whose names end in 88 may have started the thread as advertising for a specific Los Angeles site run by a celebrity Psychologist and not apparently an M.D. despite having "hospitalization facilities."
I'm all for discussing things, but I'm trying to avoid the giving of medical advice when there is no practical way to verify medical credentials, or indeed sanity and/or good will on the Internet.
As a moderator you should exercise your authority when you question the goodwill of a poster relative to providing medical advice. Err on the side of caution. If you believe this thread was started with questionable motives, delete or lock it.
I'm all for discussing things, but I'm trying to avoid the giving of medical advice when there is no practical way to verify medical credentials, or indeed sanity and/or good will on the Internet.
As a moderator you should exercise your authority when you question the goodwill of a poster relative to providing medical advice. Err on the side of caution. If you believe this thread was started with questionable motives, delete or lock it.
But then we would have no posts or threads anywhere.
A Moderator needs to be moderate.
A Moderator needs to be moderate.
You have a point RP - in fact, a very strong point !!!!!
QUOTE (rpenner+Mar 4 2009, 07:56 PM)
But then we would have no posts or threads anywhere.
A Moderator needs to be moderate.
You're probably right.
A Moderator needs to be moderate.
You're probably right.
Derek1148
I was not as clear as I wished to be -
What I intended to say was that to me it is not only perfectly OK but also wise that anyone seek information everywhere - and I am happy if my clients orientate themselves to all possible sides - and I see a doctor as just one out of many alternatives. And then I am often surprised about how much clients know - because of the web - which is a sound and a good thing.
And then I like to say with low voice that it is wise for a Forum like this - not to get involved in cases concerning strictly personal health issues - because it is not and should not be a chat site for personal health disorders. Just as a principle - easy to administer - and wise to follow.
rpenner
Yes - moderation is a very tough and extremely difficult and very little gratifying job.
And I feel confident that You are not only capable and skilled but also a fortunate choice for this Forum.
As you rightly say - moderation needs to be moderate. Freedom of thinking cannot be praised high enough.
Moderation is vital in order to avoid spamming of pornographic and commercial character and avoid obvious teasing and abusive behavior. When I advocate not to allow personal health issues to be discussed - it is solely meant as a wise precaution.
Otherwise I am a strong believer in total freedom of speech - so called stupidity is no reason for moderation, scientific quality is for the respective member to judge by themselves, and there is no need for keeping a thread neither on-topic nor clean from stupidities.
I myself is a crank - for good reasons and I gladly accept it - and I find inspiration mainly in the thinking of so called non-main streamers. I trust and hope that this Forum will continue to be so - and I painfully recall how I was excommunicated from another Forum I was invited to participate, because of exposing ideas about "Aether" that was not in accordance with the ideas of "the owner" and moderator of said Forum - God forbid that such a thing should ever happen in this Forum.
I was not as clear as I wished to be -
What I intended to say was that to me it is not only perfectly OK but also wise that anyone seek information everywhere - and I am happy if my clients orientate themselves to all possible sides - and I see a doctor as just one out of many alternatives. And then I am often surprised about how much clients know - because of the web - which is a sound and a good thing.
And then I like to say with low voice that it is wise for a Forum like this - not to get involved in cases concerning strictly personal health issues - because it is not and should not be a chat site for personal health disorders. Just as a principle - easy to administer - and wise to follow.
rpenner
Yes - moderation is a very tough and extremely difficult and very little gratifying job.
And I feel confident that You are not only capable and skilled but also a fortunate choice for this Forum.
As you rightly say - moderation needs to be moderate. Freedom of thinking cannot be praised high enough.
Moderation is vital in order to avoid spamming of pornographic and commercial character and avoid obvious teasing and abusive behavior. When I advocate not to allow personal health issues to be discussed - it is solely meant as a wise precaution.
Otherwise I am a strong believer in total freedom of speech - so called stupidity is no reason for moderation, scientific quality is for the respective member to judge by themselves, and there is no need for keeping a thread neither on-topic nor clean from stupidities.
I myself is a crank - for good reasons and I gladly accept it - and I find inspiration mainly in the thinking of so called non-main streamers. I trust and hope that this Forum will continue to be so - and I painfully recall how I was excommunicated from another Forum I was invited to participate, because of exposing ideas about "Aether" that was not in accordance with the ideas of "the owner" and moderator of said Forum - God forbid that such a thing should ever happen in this Forum.
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