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templeghost
I have suffered with asthma since I was a young lad and through the years I came across some interesting ideas to help it without sucking on an inhaler.

During an asthma attack there is a great little trick to help you free up those airways. If the person is laying down on their back, or right side, they can use their right hand to feel under the left armpit.

Raise the left arm comfortably out of the way and feel down a couple of inches, around the second or third bone down you will notice a little 'gristle mass' which is a little painful when you push it.

Take slow deep breaths while you massage it, and after a minute or two the airways start to relax. I don't know why, but it really does work very well indeed. Apparently, for a few percent of the population, you may need to do under the right armpit instead.

They say asthma is often aggravated by allergens, and I was found to be allergic to this or that, and spent much time avoiding things. But none of it ever seemed to help very much. I used to love playing pool as a boy, but some days I couldn't even walk to the pool hall.

After moving to Canada, I lost touch with my favorite sport of playing pool and after a while my asthma pretty much vanished. When I started work at CenterSpot, a pool table place, my asthma quickly returned and I ended up in hospital.

I was older and wiser and I finally clued in to what was happening. I had been such a fool really. The damn green cloth is made with nickel and the dust from it was causing my asthma. When I began to avoid all the foods and drinks and other products which contain nickel my asthma was cured once more.

It was a hard lesson, but worth learning. wink.gif


templeghost
QUOTE (templeghost+Jan 1 2008, 08:28 PM)
When I started work at CenterSpot, a pool table place...

I have a funny little story to tell to go along with this. Before the holidays I was invited to visit my eldest brother in his current home. I had never been there before, with him being in a somewhat distant city.

That morning I wrote a little update in the magnetic ghost machine thread in which I mentioned where I used to work. In the afternoon I went off to visit my brother and his family. We had a lovely night and I slept on the couch.

Now, when I awoke in the morning I could hear pool balls. I hadn't noticed a pool table and I wondered where it was coming from. I quickly jumped up and looked down the stairs to the basement.

Lo and behold my brother had bought a second hand pool table. I played a couple of games with my brothers youngest son, and then went back up the stairs. My brother was cooking breakfast and I asked him what company the pool table was made by, he told me it was made by CenterSpot, of all places.

Now, a couple of weeks passed and it was the family get together time for the holidays. This year it would be at my eldest brothers place. Thirteen of us gathered around for supper, and I was the first to pull my cracker.

It contained a little joke about a pool table.

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The entire sequence of events appealed to my sense of spirit so I put the little piece of paper in my pocket. I had all but forgetten about it. Today I found it in my little drawer, and I thought I'd share the magical little journey.
keepiniteasy20
That is quite a story. When you say "pull your cracker" do you mean a fortune cookie?
templeghost
QUOTE (keepiniteasy20+Jan 8 2008, 12:08 AM)
When you say "pull your cracker" do you mean a fortune cookie?

I mean a Christmas Cracker. They are popular in the United Kingdom and other commonwealth countries I guess. It's just a cardboard tube wrapped in paper, like a big candy, which two people pull between them.

Much like a cap gun it makes a little bang and one person is lucky enough to get the large end of the cracker and receives the gifts inside. There is usually a paper crown, a little plastic gift and sometimes a joke too.

Thankfully, your question was very polite laugh.gif
keepiniteasy20
A-ha! So it was a cultural issue. Thank you for clarifying...although now the phrase "pull a cracker" may enter my lexicon as something totally different. smile.gif
BigDumbWeirdo
For many people, marijuana is a bronchio-dilator. Also, in my experience (having a bit of asthma myself) warm, moist air is much easier to breath than cold, dry air.
Many other environmental factors can affect an asthmatic, as well. I know staying in a wood framed house that hasn't been properly treated for mold in a few years sets me off something fierce. So does being around a multitude of cats.
Finally, the best method of aid is not a good emergency measure (like marijuana can sometimes be) but a fitness regime. One can 'train' one's lungs to be less sensitive through extensive cardio-vascular exercise. But PLEASE if you take my advice, keep an inhaler on hand. No part of my advice is good for 100% of asthmatics, and I'd hate to think someone wound up in the hospital from listening to me.
tikay
QUOTE (templeghost+Jan 1 2008, 01:28 PM)
The damn green cloth is made with nickel and the dust from it was causing my asthma. When I began to avoid all the foods and drinks and other products which contain nickel my asthma was cured once more.

It was a hard lesson, but worth learning. wink.gif

I read through the thread and what I find most interesting is that nickel is found in the cloth or fibers of the pool table, is there a reason there is nickel there?
I'd assume it has to do with smoothness and helping the balls roll along.

Also now I recall another thread with complaining of nickel, is this substance in a lot of foods as well?
tikay
Are you sure there is nickel in the cloth? Could it be the wool or felt making you ill? Or even the chalk in the room and used to play this (fun) game?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pool_tables


Cloth
Billiard cloth (sometimes erroneously called felt) is a specific type of cloth that covers the top of the table's "playing area". Both the rails and slate beds are covered with 21-24 ounce billiard cloth (although some less expensive 19oz cloths are available) which is most often green in color (representing the grass of the original lawn games that billiards evolved from), and consists of either a woven wool or wool/nylon blend called baize.

Most bar tables, which get lots of play, use the slower, thicker blended cloth because it can better withstand heavy usage. This type of cloth is called a woolen cloth. By contrast, high quality pool cloth is usually made of a napless weave such as worsted wool, which gives a much faster roll to the balls. This "speed" of the cloth affects the amounts of swerve and deflection of the balls, among other aspects of game finesse. Snooker cloth traditionally has a directional nap, upon which the balls behave differently when rolling against vs. toward the direction of the nap.


If it is the chalk..then could it be that magnesium carbonate was causing your allergy/asthma.

Chalk uses
The traditional uses of chalk have in many cases been replaced by other substances, although the word "chalk" is often still applied to the replacements.

Blackboard chalk is a substance used for drawing on rough surfaces, as it readily crumbles leaving particles that stick loosely to these surfaces. Although traditionally composed of natural chalk, modern blackboard chalk is generally made from the mineral gypsum (calcium sulfate), often supplied in sticks of compressed powder about 10 cm long.
In lawn tennis, powdered chalk was used to mark the boundary lines of the court. This gives the advantage that, if the ball hits the line, a cloud of chalk or pigment dust can be seen. Nowadays the substance used is mostly titanium dioxide.
In gymnastics, rock-climbing, billiards, bouldering, weight-lifting and tug of war, chalk—now usually magnesium carbonate—is applied to the hands to prevent slipping. Tailor's chalk is traditionally a hard chalk used to make temporary markings on cloth, mainly by tailors. Nowadays it is usually made from talc (magnesium silicate).
Sidewalk chalk is made of sticks of colored chalk (now mostly gypsum) used to draw on sidewalks, streets, and driveways. It is often done by children, but in many cities, talented adult artists create masterpieces on the walkways.

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalk

Magnesium carbonate is found in many things including foods for color retention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_carbonate

I hope any of this is helpful?

(Still can't find a nickel connection)
templeghost
QUOTE (tikay+Jan 10 2008, 03:09 AM)
Are you sure there is nickel in the cloth?

There is indeed, the green dye for the cloth is made with nickel and is given off as dust when we play thereon. Green bottles, glass, and many green products contain nickel in order to bring about the green color. There is a relatively small amount of nickel in some foods, green beans, broccoli, oats, and chocolate for example.

This brings up an excellent point. When I eat foods such as those mentioned above I invariably suffer heartburn shortly thereafter. I never knew what was causing my heartburn, but when I began to avoid the nickel based foods, the heartburn vanished along with my asthma.

In retrospect, all manner of suffering in my life became very transparent when I began avoiding the nickel based foods and products. For instance, a stew which has been cooked a long while in a stainless steel pan, which contains nickel, will always give me heartburn.

Furthermore, various studies have clearly demonstrated a link between heart disease, lung disease, and exposure to diesel fumes. Consider the hydrogenated fats, and diesel fumes, here again we find they both contain nickel. All too often, whether we speak of asthma, heartburn, heart disease, or cancer, the nickel is often hiding therein.

tikay
Very interesting! I wondered if it was a green dye when i saw they were dying bottles green with nickel. You have done your research !

I often use stainless to do stews, maybe I should use ceramic (crock pot) more. There is so much to consider when cooking, for optimum health.
templeghost
The wicked man wishes to poison the man of steel with his green glass kryptonite. Of the reeve, he is the son of the powerful overseer, is it for Christopher or George, or is it for when Superman returns with much wrath?

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He will find himself in a strange world, where the green glass kryptonite is all around, stealing his strength, taking away from his magical power. Surely, the man of steel will save the people from the wicked man.

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Can he overcome the poison which is put upon him? Can all the people learn to overcome, and escape the poison which is stealing their strength? Surely the spirit is living in the good people, and teaching them. Surely, they can hear the voice of truth when it is calling unto them.

If we cannot hear the call of the spirit, how can we find our way to paradise? His xray vision is surely a great gift that will reveal many things, and wipe away the mud from our eyes, and deliver us from evil.

templeghost
The asthmatics are like unto people falling low on the cross, they cannot breathe. The persecuted have been born into a world where they are crucified, like unto a saint suffering on the cross. The sinners have taken over the world, and they being evil love the diesel trucks, and green glass, and plastic, and money, and vanity, and nickel, and all the beastly things.

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The saints are persecuted, yet again. They suffer for the sake of truth. The good among them can see the signs which are all around them, even at their doors. They do good to those who persecute them, and humble themselves. They may be bruised and afflicted, but they have faith, and they will be delivered.

A charmed life is given to those who wait, surely the saints will find their way.

tikay
My son Tui had some very bad "bouts" with asthma while growing into adulthood.
It seems it has pretty much gone away now. Thank goodness. We had to spend time in emergency rooms a little. Asthma is very hard on a person and he was the one who sat out of many games while his (two) brothers enjoyed sports. I think it is good to exercise with asthma...but I guess if one is afraid to get an attack, then they might self-protect more.

I guess sitting out of pool games is something I never even considered. What do you think about diet, are you a purist? Do you indulge like most in junk foods sometimes? Has your asthma gotten any better as you age? As in less episodes or less harsh episodes?

just curious... smile.gif
einstienear
What do you think of the bronchospasm reliever?

as the preventer does much the same amount of protection,

which do you suggest?
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tikay
I don't have any idea what is right for you. Tui preferred the broncodialator..when he got attacks and nothing preventative. I have never had asthma and would never suggest what anyone should do who has it...except my son I guess, and we basically did as told because we wanted him to be able to breathe well again.

I take medication for depression, if I didn't I might die, simple stuff, I guess. My depression got pretty extreme...many gestures to get myself out of here. we all have things that are painful...pretty much everyone has something they battle with.
templeghost
QUOTE (tikay+Jan 23 2008, 04:25 AM)
My son Tui had some very bad "bouts" with asthma while growing into adulthood.

I heard mention of that in another thread somewhere which is what prompted me to start this thread really. We might not always be able to avoid the busy highways and all the sources of nickel, but at least we can try a few simple things to cut down on the severity of it.

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What do you think about diet, are you a purist? Do you indulge like most in junk foods sometimes?


I can't stop laughing... because I don't always follow my own advice. I know the damn can of diet pepsi is full of junk, but I still drink it once in a while. I might spend a week eating apples, and oranges, and pomegranites, and bananas, and then I will get a hankering for burger king. What can I say? I love a whopper, or a big king.

Still, I will often throw away the bottom of the bun to cut down on the white bread carbs a little bit. We don't always have the best fish and chips in Canada, but we do have chip trucks in the summer. I love em, fresh cut fries with tons of vinegar and a little salt. The chip truck in Little Britain here in Ontario is great! Comfort food I guess, somewhat like a sponge soaked in vinegar.

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What do you think about diet, are you a purist? Do you indulge like most in junk foods sometimes?


I can't stop laughing... because I don't always follow my own advice. I know the damn can of diet pepsi is full of junk, but I still drink it once in a while. I might spend a week eating apples, and oranges, and pomegranites, and bananas, and then I will get a hankering for burger king. What can I say? I love a whopper, or a big king.

Still, I will often throw away the bottom of the bun to cut down on the white bread carbs a little bit. We don't always have the best fish and chips in Canada, but we do have chip trucks in the summer. I love em, fresh cut fries with tons of vinegar and a little salt. The chip truck in Little Britain here in Ontario is great! Comfort food I guess, somewhat like a sponge soaked in vinegar.

Has your asthma gotten any better as you age? As in less episodes or less harsh episodes?


My asthma has improved greatly. I haven't needed an inhaler in many years. I remember the last time. I had just spent a week in hospital with pneumonia and I didn't realise my ventolin refills had run out. It was over the Christmas holidays and I couldn't get a repeat from my doctor, and nobody would give me an inhaler. So, I was in bad shape. It was then I learned the massage trick, and I was totally amazed by it. From being totally immobilized, I was up and around in minutes.

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What do you think of the bronchospasm reliever?


They are always masking the real issue. In this modern world they keep heaping a quick fix upon the problems, without taking the time to consider the true nature of the disease. I often speak about metal and plastic. When all is said and done, the real answer is always very simple. The works of men can never compete with the perfection of the Lord.

They need to see the living body as a quantum-electromagnetic structure which is very delicate. The living world, the trees, and the plants, and the grass, and the sunshine, they all bring health to the people. The metal, and the plastic, they bring suffering and pain because there is no life in them. They make all the dead things, whereas the ONE in heaven is surely the creator of all that is living.

The sensitive kinky folk have really got an advantage in understanding the nature of the medicine, and the metal and plastic. For instance, so many playful souls enjoy medical fetish fantasies where an evil nurse is dominating the submissive patient. The spirit is teaching them, the roleplaying helps them to understand the true nature of the medicine, and the needles, and the pills. All too often the nurse will wear a red cross on a white background, sort of an international fetish symbol. It is very much like the cross of Saint George I suppose.

I love the legends, and fairy tales, I wonder what that mirror, mirror on the wall is teaching us...




tikay
Have you seen this song on my myspace page?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n5sd94XIRE

We are certainly delicate AND resilient and strong...all in one!

The fact that our nervous systems may be damaged by drug use (like mine probably was) and lead to a need for medication to give back the ability for proper synapsing...in the brain. The fact that any serious medical condition can see us teetering on the edge of life and death. The way we can recover and thrive are all fascinating and interesting things about having a human shell.

I think what fascinates and captures me most is the soul. The soul has to be something real. We can't just be a body with a mind that resides within the brain and dies when the body dies. Can we?

I think what makes us feel whole is this SOUL aspect of being human. The thing we call Heart...HEART & SOUL, this is my biggest wonder and study. You have a religious aspect, believeing in a religion once very near to me...to my heart.
I needed to let it go a bit to explore other venues openly, but I understand how one can feel with that foundation and that HoPe. That Christian FAITH to hold on to. And to have Jesus as a best friend. I used to tell folks that i had a very unconventional outlook about my brother Jesus. I saw him likened to a spiritual "football player" type brother, who would never let anyone harm me.
I also saw him as a very close best friend and shared everything, good and bad with Him. That was very satisfying to have for my life was a very rough one at times.

If we let our soul wonder from one religious order/sect to another in openness, and discover the underlying themes, we will usually come to a place in the road where we feel a need to choose one over another. That place is where I live...in a place of choosing not to choose one. i love them all.

My sons father is a devoted Christian and he often had the boys in his home and took them to church when they lived with him and my son Tui, is like you, close with his Bible. I think having physical problems leads one to that place in the road sooner, where you decide what you believe because you feel you could leave at any time and you have a need to know where it is you will possibly be heading. Near death experiances...old age, and harsh illness will lead one to this crossroads.

I have had lots of NDE's...since spinal meningitus at 11 months and onward I sort of knew time here is not guaranteed, it is more a day to day blessing or (curse) or both! I have needed to increase my spiritual power exponentially...since I had so many problems I think. Being molested by a step-father at six was horrendous. i also gave my life fully aware of what I was doing at the time to the God of Christianity at six. I asked for a special area of service to be given to me on that day and I have never realy changed my mind about serving the Source of Life and Lifes peoples that I meet. I don't know why I am happy to love all these religious orders I love so equally. I am not afraid of the wrath of any one God upon my death...I just hope there is a life beyond...and not some sort of oblivion...how freaking BORING that would be!

Hmmm....I didn't plan to get into all that, but sometimes I let the flow take me where-ever it wants and so...there went I! wink.gif

I think you have a world of potential to display and enjoy there in your life and to know that we are also very strong aganist the green glass...with our protectors and our agents of protection, that all will be well in this wonderland called life.

I think craving some foods is like craving anything else, if we indulge, we realize that we have done something that may be harmful, and we do something good to make up for it...extra vitamins from another souce, whatever. (Fish and chips sounds delish~)

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"THEY"
Interesting thread.

While I don't really have asthma, my doctor says I should (I do have severe allergies that I have resorted to shots for). All I know is when I am out in the mountains surrounded by trees and clean air, I feel like a million bucks. Then I get back in the city, and start following those #@$)_ diesel trucks, and I feel like crap again, and sometimes my bronchial tubes do tighten. I wish all of our governments would do something to severely reduce air pollution. But it would have to be a global thing. I know here in the Pacific North West, we get pollution and dust from China.... blink.gif

Oh, and on the allergy topic.... I didn't have allergies until after high school. Once I went to work in the big city, I started having allergies. Go figure.
templeghost
QUOTE (tikay+Jan 23 2008, 07:38 PM)
...that all will be well in this wonderland called life.

I am travelling at the moment, and I wish I had more time to develop various friendships... I feel, the more we share the truth we have discovered in our lives, the closer we come to heaven. It isn't always easy is it? Some lessons are very profound, and perplexing, they can be a terrible burden.

But, if we have a heart to believe in the soul, we are on our way to paradise. When we begin to picture the soul as a real spirit which is living inside the people, a magical door can open, and we can find all the answers which everyone has sought but never known. A dolphin swimming in the sea, a kitten playing in the grass, a tree blowing in the wind, if only we could be arrayed as they are.

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Once I went to work in the big city, I started having allergies. Go figure.


I must relate an aspect of my story which I have failed to mention so far. As a young boy I developed eczema, mostly around my elbows. As a young man I had no idea what had caused it. At this point in my life the answer is very simple. When I was around seven, my parents purchased a pool table, and I began playing thereon. In the months to follow I developed eczema.

On reflection, it was clearly related to my playing pool, and laying my hands and elbows on the green felt. A family, or boy, or girl, which moves into the city, or around a busy highway would surely suffer in some fashion from the increased exposure to nickel fumes, and all manner of other poisons. No matter whether the suffering manifest mentally, or emotionally, or physically.

I must take some time to help an old friend in the coming days, but I look forward to sharing openly when I return...

vickie_M
Asthma is a very common respiratory disease, it is caused when bronchial tubes becomes inflamed and plugged with mucus. It restricts the amount of air going to the lungs, and makes it very difficult to breathe out. Asthma is characterized by coughing, wheezing, tight chest, difficult in breathing etc. Mullein is very effective in resolving the symptoms of asthma.
fleem
Fascinating thread, thanks to all contributors. I wish there were some way to place all the anecdotal evidence on so many various ailments like this, which are scattered about the Internet, into some kind of database allowing useful analysis!

After several visits to professionals that gave half-guesses (I don't blame them--they're spending their mental energy on life-threatening ailments of others rather than my little inconsequential symptoms), I finally had to test and diagnose myself: Its an allergy to corn and any meat fed with corn. I had rashes on the face and fluid in the lungs. The fluid was detectable as a gurgly feeling at the top of the first big breath I'd take after resting for a while, especially when resting on my back (thus one doc said it was a form of asthma--I guess it was--but there was no difficulty breathing and a full pulmonary test was normal). The real clincher was finally realizing chicken and non-grass-fed beef were causing it too.

Over the course of debugging, I went through theories of fungal infections, leaky lungs (from damage?), hypertension, and allergies to other substances.
soundhertz
Thanks TempleGhost for your information. I've always kept up to date on nutritional issues, but I missed the nickel connection with heartburn. I knew it was a skin irritant with a lot of people, and it's well-known medically that psoriasis/eczema and asthma often occur together. Both are considered to be at least partially auto-immune based. But I didn't know about the heartburn association.
I can't wait to try the no-nickel food idea to see if it helps the heartburn. Though there are foods on that list that will be tough to stop. I eat oatmeal 3-4 times a week, and broccoli nearly as much. Could you PM me the whole list? Much appreciation.
Enthalpy
A friend of mines who has asthma told me a very efficient help was to stay in a clean room. No pollens, no dust mites there.

Fortunately for him, he was a microelectronics student at that time. Not very convenient for other people.

Shall every patient have his own little clean room at home? Or carry a portable ultrafilter with him to clean at least his breathing air? Not very easy.
soundhertz
Years ago, my father, a practicing naturopath, was selected as participant in research on a B vitamin, Vitamin B-15. It held promise for a multitude of things according to European researchers.. This particular research was for it's effects on arresting asthma. My sister had moderately strong asthma, and so she was a selection for the test. Well, it completely cured her. She said it worked immediately. After a few months, asthma was gone. She never took the supplement again, and her asthma hasn't returned, 35 years now.
A few years after that it was removed from all B-complex vitamins, and as far as I know it is now illegal. Interesting, since it poses no health hazards beyond any other vitamin - they all have lethal doses obviously - and it doesn't get you high. However, you can buy Dimethyl Glycine (DMG) which basically produces B-15 (pangamic acid)in your body. It's not prescription, but certainly practice due diligence and don't start eating it until you have done your own research. There's very little official info on it. Even in Wiki just a statement, but everywhere else in the world it's legal and pretty highly touted. I haven't found a good source that explains precisely why the gov't. banned it, other than "it may be detrimental to man", whatever that means. Like, sugar isn't? Here is some info I found:

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DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH & HUMAN SERVICES Public Health Service
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Vitamin B-15 (Pangamic Acid) “….beneficial responses in circulatory and heart disorders, high blood. cholesterol, bronchial asthma ...
www.fda.gov/cder/warn/cyber/nov2000/cyber049.pdf - Similar pages

http://www.cchh.org/content.asp?MenuID=10&SubMenuID=37
http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp?ID=1925

Nickel Cobalt DRI/RDA, overdose, toxicity, negative side effects
decreased estrogen, shortness of breath, asthma, breath, asthma, cardiomyopathy .... insomnia, increased Vitamin B15 requirements, Vitamin B12 requirements, ...
www.acu-cell.com/nico2.html

templeghost
QUOTE (soundhertz+Mar 4 2008, 01:27 AM)
I knew it was a skin irritant with a lot of people, and it's well-known medically that psoriasis/eczema and asthma often occur together.  Both are considered to be at least partially auto-immune based.  But I didn't know about the heartburn association.

Some interesting responses here... it seems that we are constantly reminded that the nickel is affecting our immune systems at a very fundamental level. Moreover, when we flick on the toaster, or turn on the hair dryer, we are seeing the wicked power of nickel.

The electric heating elements use nickel because it burns like fire when we pass electricity or intense magnetic fields through it. In the modern electrosmog world, it isn't hard to imagine which element, in terms of quantum-electromagnetics, will have the greatest impact on our natural good health.

The Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research provides the following list of foods to avoid if you suffer from a nickel allergy, I have added my personal experience with a number of them:

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Foods to Avoid
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Shellfish (shrimp, oysters, mussels) - extreme asthma in some cases (Leviticus?)
salmon - no dramatic effect that I have noticed

Canned vegetables - bisphenolA plastic endocrine disruptors and nickel, very bad
beans (green, brown, white) - the cooking changes the levels
sprouts - hmmm, well there is one effect I can think of
kale - heartburn when I have been given juiced drinks with kale
leeks - no dramatic effect
lettuce - in general, the stuff close to the ground contains more nickel
peas (including split peas) - not too many seems okay
spinach - heartburn when I have been given juiced drinks with spinach (magnetic spin ache?)
All canned fruits - more plastic and metal
fresh and dried figs - not too many doesn't seem to hurt
pineapple - something strange going on here, nickel and something else?
prunes - no dramatic effect

Buckwheat - don't know about this one
Millet - or this one
Oatmeal - can aggravate asthma and heartburn
wheat bran products (whole wheat breads and cereals) - usually nothing dramatic
multigrain breads - again, nothing dramatic

Chocolate and cocoa drinks - (pumpernickel, pump you with nickel) sore throat and heartburn
tea from dispensers - extreme heartburn

Nuts (almonds, hazelnuts, peanuts, sunflower seeds) - peanuts don't bother me
sweets containing chocolate - woe unto them that make bitter things sweet?
marzipan - not sure about this one
licorice - don't like it, so I don't know
baking powder - wow, the nickel is hiding everywhere, lentils, linseed, soy powder



In general, the more processed, cooked, or baked the food is, the more likely it is to give me heartburn. Furthermore, the foods which are hard to extract, such as shell fish, often seem to produce the largest negative effect.

Consider the spirit of the message. The latest malteser commercial is a great example. First off, the ladies working at the jewellery counter put the little chocolate nickel ball down in front of the electric fan. They turn on the electric motor, producing magnetic vector potentials, and blow the nickel ball across the counter. Ha ha, very funny. Then, the pregnant mother balances the nickel ball on her belly. The unborn child has more sense and spirit than the typical adult and kicks the nickel ball away. I couldn't find the full version, but here is a link to the malteser commercial on youtube:

Malteser Commercial

Wake up folks, wake up!

Drude
Asthma is an Obstructive plumonary disease. Pulmonary disease are divided into two sub-categories: Obstructive and Restrictive.

The obstructive disease include:

Obstructive pulmonary disease where the patient either has 1-asthma, 2-emphysema, 3-Chronic Bronchitis, or 4-COPD (Emphysema + Chronic bronchitis).

In your case you have Asthma which means that the smooth muscle lining your bronchi are hypersentative and have increased tonality (they contract harder) and that causes a constriction of your airways. Now it is a good time to bring in a little bit of physics into this discussion.

You all know of Hagen-Poiseuille's equation of Resistance for a fluid named after Ludwig Hagen and Marie Poisuille which sates:

R = 8 η l / π r^4

where R is the resistance against flow of a fluid, η is the viscocity of the fluid in question, l is the length of the conduit through which the fluid moves, and r is the radius of the conduit.

Also lets us remember the equation of constant flow that states that:

A v = flow , where A is the area of the conduit ( A = πr^2) through which the fluid moves and "v" is the velocit of the motion.

Also recall that

flow = ∆P / R , where P is the pressure gradient, and R is resistance.

Ok so let us go back to the moment that you have your asthma attack (or in sever cases status Asthmaticus):

You are walking outside and you suddenly encounter an allergen that increases your muscle's reaction causing them to contract. As your bronchi muscles contract, they cause "Bronchoconstriction" which is basically the bronchus's radius "r" getting smaller due to increases size and tonality of your smooth muscle.

What does it mean when your bronchi (being the conduit of air here) decreases its cross sectional area (radius)?

You have based on Hagen-Poiseuille's equatino that as r goes down R goes up, but also remember that any increase in r would have a factor ^4 increase in R or resistance!

So let us make a sequence chart:

Patient encounter inhaled irritant or allergen ---> Allergic reaction to the allergen (antibiody; foreign object) increases mast cell activity --> mast cells release histamine, heparin and other agents ---> histamine causse inflamation and hypersensativity of smooth muscle and other bronchial tissue ---> bronchial radius decreases (r↓) ---> based on Hagen-Poiseuille's equation (R↑) or in other words resistance increases.

[for those with a bit more of physics background recall that upper airways are arranged in series and when you add resistors in series the total resistance is R = R1+ R2 + R3 + ... and so asthmatic patients have a much higher problem with bronchoconstriction than they do with lower respiratory airways like alveolar ducts or bronchioles because although the areas is much smaller for these airways and their "individual" resistances is very high, since they are all in parallel, as we know resistors put in parallel would have a total resistance of 1/R = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + ... which means that asthma is really a problem of upper airway constriction namely bronchi not lower respiratory zone]

So as an Obstructive disease asthma causes narrowing of your air way resulting in increased fluid (air) resistance.

But what causes the wheesing? why do asthmatic patients have an inflated chest? and why is it hard to breath out? Why do they cough? Why do they breathe really fast and shallow (hyperventillate)?

Well lets take these questions one at a time.

Why Wheesing on exhale?: It is defined as a noise heard upon auscultation (term used by physicans when the use the stetoscope to hear your lungs, or neck, or etc.). Remember our flow equation that said: A v = flow! since an asthmatic patient the air way constrict (r↓) so does areas (A↓). But we know that our body would try to compensate for flow to keep the flow constant so if we keep flow constant and A↓ so by logic v↑.

But now remeber the Reynold's number and the concept of laminar vs. turbulent flow. Physicas defines laminar flow as a kind of flow in which layers of fluid move past each other with the most central layer having the highest speed, whereas physics defines turbulent flow as one in which there is high speed "hurricane" like motions of the fluid molecules and it is not as orderly as laminar. To decide when a flow is laminar and when it is turbulent they created the Reynold number wihch is:

R.N. = ρ v D / η

where η is viscocity, ρ is density of fluid, D is diameter of the cross sectional area, and "v" is the velocity. Accordingly the bigger the R.N. the more "turbulent" a flow is.

So we know that r↓ ---> A↓ ---> v↑---->R.N.↑ ---> therefore you have that "wheesing" noise as fast "turbulent" air tries to escape out of your lungs.

[same phenomenon happens whe one passes gas. The high pressure of gas accumulating in the colon creates a pressure gradient P and according to the equation A v = flow. as A suddenly increases as one loosens up his anal sphincter, at the very beginning A is very small so v is very large so the gass flow is very turbulent hence the "loud noise" but as one relaxes the sphincter further the rate of increase of A decreases , so A becomes larger, v smaller and sound less turbulent and more "laminar." Although this might sound like an inappropriate comparision it does make sense! normal breathing does also produce a noise upon auscultation but it is more laminar in nature as opposed to asthmatic noise]
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Why do asthmatic patients have an inflated chest? Why is it harder to breathe out?

I have had patients who came in with no complaint other than feeling a bit full in their chest. Upron observing them in physical I saw that their chest is hyper inflated, and the radiograph showed the same thing. But why?

Well, respiration (breathing) has two stages: 1-inspiration (inhalation) , and 2-expiration (exhaling). Inhaling is an active process meaning that you have to expend energy to inhale air, since your diaphragm which is the muscle that seperates your chest from your belly must contract downward. As it does contract downward your chest's pressure (intrapleural pressure) decreases compared to the atmospheric pressure therefore inviting air into your chest. Air comes in and your lungs exchange gasses and when it is time to expire (exhale) the "elastic recoil" of your lungs would be sufficient by itself to expell air out as your diaphragm returns to its original positoin and pushes the air out. Expiration (exhalation) is therefore a passive process meaning it requies no energy (ATP).

But in an asthmatic patient we have to remember that there is a increase in R due to bronchoconstriction. So this means that patient has a harder time breathing in and out! why? remember the equation:

flow = ∆P / R

as R↑ ---> Flow↓ , therefore an asthmatic patient has to try "harder" to breathe in and out. But also remember that breathing in (inhalation) is an active process so although it is harder to do it will eventually happen so patient can breathe in but for breathing out, lungs NORMALLY only use their "elastic recoil" but in this case due to asthma the patient can not properly ventilate out the air resulting in a hyper-inflated lung!

[for those of you who have a physiological background or a cardiovascular background you can also realize that according to the ideal gas equation: P V = nRT, as lungs in asthmatic patients inflate (V↑) the pressure assuming nRT is constant would decrease (P↓). As pressure drops in the thoracic chest of these patients, the pressure on superior vena cava would decrease resulting on dilation of vein (venodilation) which would then cause a drope in venous return to heart and end-diastolic volume would decrease (EDV↓). According to Frank-Starling mechanism as EDV↓ ----> decreased inotropic contraction of cardiac smooth muscle ---> decrease stroke volume (SV↓) ---> decrased cardiac output (CO↓) ---> as cardiac output goes down so does pulse pressure (PP) since PP = (SV - mullerian run off) / Compliance of aorta ---> as Pulse pressure falls down (PP↓), central and peripheral baroreceptors would signal back via vagas and glossopharyngeal neves to Nucleus of Solitary trac (NTS) which would in turn de-activate Dorsal motor nucleus of vagas ----> increased Sympathetic flow to SA node of heart (SA activity ↑)---> creating a positive chronotropic effect resulting in tachycardia and increased heart beat in asthmatic patients!!]

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Why do asthmatic patients cough?

For two reasons: one is their reaction to the allergen by the irritant receptors in the upper airway, and the other is due to activation of Rapid Adapting Strech Receptors (SARs) in the upper airway in reponse to increased smooth muscle contraction and bronchoconstriction.

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Why do asthmatic patients hyperventillate?

This is a response to increased CO2 pressure (Pco2) in blood and also set forth by anxiety. As the concentration of CO2 in blood increaes due to asthma the patient breathes faster (Ventilation rate goes up) while the breathe depth (Tidal volume) decreaes resulting in shallow hyperventillative breaths. This reaction is to sensing the increased CO2 by peripheral and central chemoreceptors that sense the increase in CO2 and respond by forcing lungs into hyperventillation.

[Ok, but before I actually start to deal with the original posts message of "Rubbing his left side to help relieve asthma attack" let me add one more thing. In asthma or any obstructive pulmonary disease Compliance is increased! But what is compliance? In physics C or Compliance (sometimes called capacitance) is C = V/P where V is volume and P is pressure. This resembles a lot the actual capacitor equation of C = Q/ V where Q is charge and V is voltage but in this case in lungs we do not have charge and so voltage is in reality pressure gradient, and charge is the volume this pressure can handle. So in asthmatic patietns we already concluded that volume of the lung increases so V↑ ---> C↑ so the lung compliance goes up, but also remember that C = 1 / E where E is elastance or elastic recoil. So patients with asthma have increased compliance, and decreased elasticity of chest wall resulting in a hyperinflated chest]


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To the original poster:

You mentioned tha you 1-lied down, 2-rubed your left chest area around second or third intercoastals , 3-and that helped your feel better.

I think (not sure since I can not physically examine you) that when you rubbed your chest on the left that somehow you affected the vagal branch or somhow induced an increased strech of aortic baroreceptors or maybe you increased a sympathetic nerve's activity resulting in bronchodilation.

Anyhow the best advice is TO SEE A DOCTOR and to keep up with your medication. Usually treatment is Albuterol (you might heard it as salbutamol sulfate or albuterol sulfate or etc as well) whic is basically a bronchodilator. You must also avoid cold weather (since cold weather increases viscocity of air increasing Resistance (R↑), avoid strenous exercise, avoid allergens or allergen-inducing environments.

I know how you must feel having seen people who have had asthma and I know what a burden it can be in your life. I admire your resillience and your positive attitude. At the end of the road in this tiring life, we all have only one thing to hang on to and that is hope. At least for me having failed in true love, or friendsihp the only corner of relief is science and my profession and you too should find one thing that rlaxes you and focus on it. I am sure you know best how to deal with it but rest assured I hear how you feel and wish you the best.

Ulrich Drude (MD)

[Do not treat my post as a medical advice. I am writing here only in my capacity as a poster. Any treatment optoins or choices should AND SHOULD ONLY be discussed with your personal physican IN PERSON. God bless]
templeghost
QUOTE (Drude+Mar 14 2008, 04:43 AM)
In your case you have Asthma which means that the smooth muscle lining your bronchi are hypersentative and have increased tonality (they contract harder) and that causes a constriction of your airways. Now it is a good time to bring in a little bit of physics into this discussion.

Is that what it feels like when you are crucified on a cross? As your arms lose strength the body falls lower and the chest is compressed I imagine.

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You are walking outside and you suddenly encounter an allergen that increases your muscle's reaction causing them to contract. As your bronchi muscles contract, they cause "Bronchoconstriction" which is basically the bronchus's radius "r" getting smaller due to increases size and tonality of your smooth muscle.


Yea, I was walking beside a busy highway and I became exhausted from sucking on diesel exhaust(ing) fumes.

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You are walking outside and you suddenly encounter an allergen that increases your muscle's reaction causing them to contract. As your bronchi muscles contract, they cause "Bronchoconstriction" which is basically the bronchus's radius "r" getting smaller due to increases size and tonality of your smooth muscle.


Yea, I was walking beside a busy highway and I became exhausted from sucking on diesel exhaust(ing) fumes.

What does it mean when your bronchi (being the conduit of air here) decreases its cross sectional area (radius)?


I have a feeling that the saints of heaven are able to mock the established science.

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Patient encounter inhaled irritant or allergen ---> Allergic reaction to the allergen (antibiody; foreign object) increases mast cell activity --> mast cells release histamine, heparin and other agents ---> histamine causse inflamation and hypersensativity of smooth muscle and other bronchial tissue ---> bronchial radius decreases (r↓) ---> based on Hagen-Poiseuille's equation (R↑) or in other words resistance increases.


This doesn't give us any indication as to the true nature of the disease.

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Patient encounter inhaled irritant or allergen ---> Allergic reaction to the allergen (antibiody; foreign object) increases mast cell activity --> mast cells release histamine, heparin and other agents ---> histamine causse inflamation and hypersensativity of smooth muscle and other bronchial tissue ---> bronchial radius decreases (r↓) ---> based on Hagen-Poiseuille's equation (R↑) or in other words resistance increases.


This doesn't give us any indication as to the true nature of the disease.

Why do asthmatic patients have an inflated chest? Why is it harder to breathe out?


Could it be because the sinners have made a hell on earth?

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But in an asthmatic patient we have to remember that there is a increase in R due to bronchoconstriction. So this means that patient has a harder time breathing in and out!


If we ask the asthmatic, I should think the breathing out is far more difficult.

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But in an asthmatic patient we have to remember that there is a increase in R due to bronchoconstriction. So this means that patient has a harder time breathing in and out!


If we ask the asthmatic, I should think the breathing out is far more difficult.

Why do asthmatic patients cough?


I thought my body was trying to rid itself of horrible green phlegm.

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I think (not sure since I can not physically examine you) that when you rubbed your chest on the left that somehow you affected the vagal branch or somhow induced an increased strech of aortic baroreceptors or maybe you increased a sympathetic nerve's activity resulting in bronchodilation.


I was under the impression that the medical community had failed to pass along a wonderful and most helpful process which can greatly reduce asthma symptoms.

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I think (not sure since I can not physically examine you) that when you rubbed your chest on the left that somehow you affected the vagal branch or somhow induced an increased strech of aortic baroreceptors or maybe you increased a sympathetic nerve's activity resulting in bronchodilation.


I was under the impression that the medical community had failed to pass along a wonderful and most helpful process which can greatly reduce asthma symptoms.

Do not treat my post as a medical advice. I am writing here only in my capacity as a poster. Any treatment optoins or choices should AND SHOULD ONLY be discussed with your personal physican IN PERSON. God bless


I would rather accept the lessons taught by the Lord.

Drude
What exactly is your point? What does "lord" have to do with asthma in terms of its symptoms and expression? I seriously do not understand a single point you make or why you even make them?

I guess these few make remote sense so here is your response:
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If we ask the asthmatic, I should think the breathing out is far more difficult.


You did not read the rest of the post. There is increased resistance both ways, but because inspiring is active there is less of a challenge there and due to increased compliance (decreased elasticity) the patient has a harder time expiring air, hence what you said is right but that is exactly what I said. You just didnt read it properly enough.

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If we ask the asthmatic, I should think the breathing out is far more difficult.


You did not read the rest of the post. There is increased resistance both ways, but because inspiring is active there is less of a challenge there and due to increased compliance (decreased elasticity) the patient has a harder time expiring air, hence what you said is right but that is exactly what I said. You just didnt read it properly enough.

I would rather accept the lessons taught by the Lord


I respect people of religion but I have to say what lessions? If lessons this "lord" theaches you entail lack of thinking, and justifying or connecting everything with that ever-present (yet never seen) entity you call God, then that is no better than blindness. Also in context of the stories in the so called "holly" books, god is busy blasting the siners left and right. There is no shortage of hell, and the very same ppl who often like to "help" the way of lord end up causng more misery for the people who just do not want anything to do with it. If there really is a god, he/she truely can not be the "lord" you describe.
templeghost
QUOTE (Drude+Mar 14 2008, 05:25 AM)
I respect people of religion but I have to say what lessions?


Perhaps you meant lesion, as in wound or injury. The slip of the finger is understood by my friends, who know the spirit of the Lord.

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If lessons this "lord" theaches you


For many years my friends have called me TH, a contraction of Templehelper. Apparently, the spirit of the Lord is living in the evil, and the good.

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If lessons this "lord" theaches you


For many years my friends have called me TH, a contraction of Templehelper. Apparently, the spirit of the Lord is living in the evil, and the good.

There is no shortage of hell, and the very same ppl who often like to "help" the way of lord end up causng more misery for the people who just do not want anything to do with it.


They are not my people. The people filled up with the Holy Ghost are meek, and humble of spirit, they care not for money, or material things, they trust in the heart.

Drude
Ya....make sure to take your medication. All of them.
templeghost
QUOTE (Drude+Mar 14 2008, 05:08 PM)
Ya....make sure to take your medication. All of them.

The medicine I enjoy most is living in my heart. I didn't always understand the nature of my fantasies. As a young lad I didn't know why I enjoyed dreaming about an evil nurse who would torment my mind and flesh. When I woke up to the nature of the spirit, everything changed. The old poems and stories I would tell to my girlfriends began to make a great deal of sense.

For instance, consider the little story below, I have come to understand that my spirit was speaking about makeup, and silk stockings, and metal. I wrote this many years ago, it is only in recent times that I understand it:

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As a cold stone statue you stand within the garden of weeds and your eyes long for the field of flowers just beyond the rusty iron gate. Suddenly, one day, when the sun shined so bright, and the rain fell just right, the loving hand of God came to wipe the dirt from your eyes and cut the weeds from your feet, and so to end your lonely sleep.

At first with a small and weary step you move toward the field. With each step the glory of the field ahead is more beautiful. Closer still, you begin to feel the magic of the field filled with the most glorious flowers, and gently rolling hills.

Finally you pass through the gate and your field of dreams is found, the garden of heaven is discovered.


Some people are filled up with the Holy Spirit, they don't even know why they say the things they do, but sometimes, just sometimes, a sleeping spirit can awaken to the truth which is living in the world.


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