All:
I'm currently using my wireless connection on my laptop inside of a Mall in Maryland. For the last couple of days, I've been getting a "Windows - System Error" message that reads:
"There is an IP address conflict with another system on the network."
Yesterday, I only got this message a few times throughout the day. Today, however, I'm getting it every minute or so and I keep getting kicked off the computer and it takes me quite some time before I can get back on. Does anyone know exactly what this error message means? If so, then please inform me of how to correct it. I know this post probably belongs in another forum, but this is the forum that I frequent the most. Thanks in advance for any help.
newguy
I did a "System Restore" to last Saturday and now my computer seems to be working fine. I would still like to know what was causing the problem in case it happens again. If anyone can help, then please let me know. Thanks.
newguy
newguy
QUOTE (newguy+Nov 28 2007, 05:17 PM)
I did a "System Restore" to last Saturday and now my computer seems to be working fine. I would still like to know what was causing the problem in case it happens again. If anyone can help, then please let me know. Thanks.
newguy
It's a Windows computer. That's all the explanation needed.
- Gehn
newguy
It's a Windows computer. That's all the explanation needed.
- Gehn
The problem was that you and another computer on the mall's network were trying to use the same IP Address. (If it's any consolation, they were probably having errors too. 
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One (or both) of you needed to renew your IP address from the network's server. I'm not sure how you would do that in Windows... and I'm sure it's done differently with each release of the OS.
)One (or both) of you needed to renew your IP address from the network's server. I'm not sure how you would do that in Windows... and I'm sure it's done differently with each release of the OS.
QUOTE (gmilam+)
The problem was that you and another computer on the mall's network were trying to use the same IP Address. (If it's any consolation, they were probably having errors too. )
gmilam: I figured it was either that or a vast, right-wing conspiracy.
)gmilam: I figured it was either that or a vast, right-wing conspiracy.
QUOTE (gmilam+)
One (or both) of you needed to renew your IP address from the network's server. I'm not sure how you would do that in Windows... and I'm sure it's done differently with each release of the OS.
So, would a "System Restore" automatically renew my IP address? Excuse my ignorance, but I'm not too computer savvy. When I intially did a "System Restore" to this past Monday, my problem increased about 100-fold. When I went back and did another "System Restore" to last Saturday, the problem apparently went away. Any ideas to why this might be? Thanks.
So, would a "System Restore" automatically renew my IP address? Excuse my ignorance, but I'm not too computer savvy. When I intially did a "System Restore" to this past Monday, my problem increased about 100-fold. When I went back and did another "System Restore" to last Saturday, the problem apparently went away. Any ideas to why this might be? Thanks.
NewGuy,
Is your wireless card built-in or a PCCard add-on?
Either way, there should be a wireless manager, be it the built-in Windows manager or not, that you should be able to access in order to check and refresh your connection.
You should be able to access it from your taskbar via an icon for wireless connectivity and/or management.
The problem is easy to fix, but how to fix it varies depending on if you are using a manager bundled with your card or the default Microsoft one.
Is your wireless card built-in or a PCCard add-on?
Either way, there should be a wireless manager, be it the built-in Windows manager or not, that you should be able to access in order to check and refresh your connection.
You should be able to access it from your taskbar via an icon for wireless connectivity and/or management.
The problem is easy to fix, but how to fix it varies depending on if you are using a manager bundled with your card or the default Microsoft one.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
Is your wireless card built-in or a PCCard add-on?
GeneSplicer: It's a plastic add-on from NETGEAR(I bought it at Best Buy) that plugs into the back of my laptop.
GeneSplicer: It's a plastic add-on from NETGEAR(I bought it at Best Buy) that plugs into the back of my laptop.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
Either way, there should be a wireless manager, be it the built-in Windows manager or not, that you should be able to access in order to check and refresh your connection.
You should be able to access it from your taskbar via an icon for wireless connectivity and/or management.
When I was having the problem, every time I clicked on my wireless manager, it told me that my signal was strong and that I was connected to the router. I don't know if this is what you're talking about or not... I guess that my main question is how does someone go about changing their IP address? In any case, everything seems fine since I did my latest "System Restore". Thanks for any additional info.
You should be able to access it from your taskbar via an icon for wireless connectivity and/or management.
When I was having the problem, every time I clicked on my wireless manager, it told me that my signal was strong and that I was connected to the router. I don't know if this is what you're talking about or not... I guess that my main question is how does someone go about changing their IP address? In any case, everything seems fine since I did my latest "System Restore". Thanks for any additional info.
Never messed with wireless, so consequently I've never messed with wi-fi managers. Sounds like Genesplicer has you on the right track.
Of course, the right wing conspiracy is always a possibility.
Of course, the right wing conspiracy is always a possibility.
Okay, well if everything is working fine then I’d suggest just leaving it for now. But in the future, a system restore is overkill for this problem.
Your wireless manager is used for several tasks. Besides actually connecting to the router and tracking signal strength, most allow you to configure your network connection.
This is where your problem lies. As it was stated earlier, your computer is trying to use an IP address someone else is or was using at the time. Every device on the network has to use a different IP address. Think of it like a telephone number. Two people simply cannot use the same number at the same time.
This is normally not a problem unless your wireless card has it’s IP address fixed to just one specific address.
I don’t want to get too technical and confuse or loose you but when you get a chance you may want to read your card’s manual on how to set it to use DHCP. If you need more details, email or PM me with the model number of you card and I will look up the information for you.
BTW, are you selling Christmas t-shirts? You know how malls are actively discriminating against such a thing. They might be doing this intentional to you. After all, O’Reilly couldn’t be wrong about such things.
Your wireless manager is used for several tasks. Besides actually connecting to the router and tracking signal strength, most allow you to configure your network connection.
This is where your problem lies. As it was stated earlier, your computer is trying to use an IP address someone else is or was using at the time. Every device on the network has to use a different IP address. Think of it like a telephone number. Two people simply cannot use the same number at the same time.
This is normally not a problem unless your wireless card has it’s IP address fixed to just one specific address.
I don’t want to get too technical and confuse or loose you but when you get a chance you may want to read your card’s manual on how to set it to use DHCP. If you need more details, email or PM me with the model number of you card and I will look up the information for you.
BTW, are you selling Christmas t-shirts? You know how malls are actively discriminating against such a thing. They might be doing this intentional to you. After all, O’Reilly couldn’t be wrong about such things.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
Your wireless manager is used for several tasks. Besides actually connecting to the router and tracking signal strength, most allow you to configure your network connection.
This is where your problem lies. As it was stated earlier, your computer is trying to use an IP address someone else is or was using at the time. Every device on the network has to use a different IP address. Think of it like a telephone number. Two people simply cannot use the same number at the same time.
This is normally not a problem unless your wireless card has it’s IP address fixed to just one specific address.
I don’t want to get too technical and confuse or loose you but when you get a chance you may want to read your card’s manual on how to set it to use DHCP. If you need more details, email or PM me with the model number of you card and I will look up the information for you.
GeneSplicer: When I was tinkering with my computer earlier, I did see where I could configure my network connection. I didn't want to play around with it at that time because I wasn't sure what I was doing and I didn't want to damage something that I didn't know how to fix. As far as my manual is concerned, that is on my desk in Pennsylvania...about 4 hours from where I'm at.
I haven't had any problems using my wireless from my hotel room, by the way, which is about 4 miles from here. Anyhow, it is presently working(more than me...this mall is DEAD!), but if the problem resurfaces, then I'll take you up on your offer and PM you for further assistance.
This is where your problem lies. As it was stated earlier, your computer is trying to use an IP address someone else is or was using at the time. Every device on the network has to use a different IP address. Think of it like a telephone number. Two people simply cannot use the same number at the same time.
This is normally not a problem unless your wireless card has it’s IP address fixed to just one specific address.
I don’t want to get too technical and confuse or loose you but when you get a chance you may want to read your card’s manual on how to set it to use DHCP. If you need more details, email or PM me with the model number of you card and I will look up the information for you.
GeneSplicer: When I was tinkering with my computer earlier, I did see where I could configure my network connection. I didn't want to play around with it at that time because I wasn't sure what I was doing and I didn't want to damage something that I didn't know how to fix. As far as my manual is concerned, that is on my desk in Pennsylvania...about 4 hours from where I'm at.
I haven't had any problems using my wireless from my hotel room, by the way, which is about 4 miles from here. Anyhow, it is presently working(more than me...this mall is DEAD!), but if the problem resurfaces, then I'll take you up on your offer and PM you for further assistance.QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
BTW, are you selling Christmas t-shirts? You know how malls are actively discriminating against such a thing. They might be doing this intentional to you. After all, O’Reilly couldn’t be wrong about such things.
As you already know, I don't celebrate "The Feast of Saturnalia" which the pagan Roman catholic church "Christianized" into "Christ Mass/Christmas". Although I've never seen more than about 5 minutes of Bill O'Reilly in my life, there are actually some people in the Malls that are diametrically opposed to Christmas(not that I personally care...It's a pagan holy day/holiday). In fact, just last year, at a different Mall in Pennsylvania, the Specialty Leasing Rep(the one who rents/leases carts and stores) was having everyone remove any decorations related to Christmas from their carts/stores. In a conversation with her, she inadvertantly mentioned to me that the Mall was planning on getting rid of Santa Claus this year(I don't know if they did or not). When I asked her "Why?", she responded that it was a Jewish-run Mall. No implications intended there on my part...I'm just relating my experiences/conversation from last year. Anyhow, thanks for your help.
As you already know, I don't celebrate "The Feast of Saturnalia" which the pagan Roman catholic church "Christianized" into "Christ Mass/Christmas". Although I've never seen more than about 5 minutes of Bill O'Reilly in my life, there are actually some people in the Malls that are diametrically opposed to Christmas(not that I personally care...It's a pagan holy day/holiday). In fact, just last year, at a different Mall in Pennsylvania, the Specialty Leasing Rep(the one who rents/leases carts and stores) was having everyone remove any decorations related to Christmas from their carts/stores. In a conversation with her, she inadvertantly mentioned to me that the Mall was planning on getting rid of Santa Claus this year(I don't know if they did or not). When I asked her "Why?", she responded that it was a Jewish-run Mall. No implications intended there on my part...I'm just relating my experiences/conversation from last year. Anyhow, thanks for your help.
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1) Go to the control panel (you should see it when you click the Start button).
2) You should see a Key board Icon, click on it
3) Click on the hardware tab at the top. Does it show "the device is working properly"?
4) There is a trouble shoot button in the hardware tab, click on it. It should give you step by step instructions.
Hope this helps.
1) Go to the control panel (you should see it when you click the Start button).
2) You should see a Key board Icon, click on it
3) Click on the hardware tab at the top. Does it show "the device is working properly"?
4) There is a trouble shoot button in the hardware tab, click on it. It should give you step by step instructions.
Hope this helps.
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Oh okay. Probably its some problem with the device driver.
Hopefully the best buy guys will fix it without too much expense.
Hopefully the best buy guys will fix it without too much expense.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch(actually, back at the hotel...)
vkamath:
I took my laptop to Best Buy and it worked fine as soon as they turned it on. They did a diagnostic test and there is nothing wrong with my laptop. It's working fine for me now at my hotel room...we'll see if the problem starts up again at the Mall tomorrow. I did already have another unrelated problem with my computer at the Mall earlier in the week, so I don't know if there's something going on with their wireless system there or not. Anyhow, thanks for your attempt to help me earlier today. I sincerely appreciate it.
newguy(a.k.a. "n__g__")
P.S. If anyone else reads this thread and has an idea as to what was causing my problem, I'd still like to hear it. Thanks.
vkamath:
I took my laptop to Best Buy and it worked fine as soon as they turned it on. They did a diagnostic test and there is nothing wrong with my laptop. It's working fine for me now at my hotel room...we'll see if the problem starts up again at the Mall tomorrow. I did already have another unrelated problem with my computer at the Mall earlier in the week, so I don't know if there's something going on with their wireless system there or not. Anyhow, thanks for your attempt to help me earlier today. I sincerely appreciate it.
newguy(a.k.a. "n__g__")
P.S. If anyone else reads this thread and has an idea as to what was causing my problem, I'd still like to hear it. Thanks.
All: I had some more problems with my laptop this morning. This time, the g, h, ', ]'s and backspace weren't working. This time I had the problem in my hotel room and there's no problem at the Mall...the last time it was the other way around and with different letters/characters on my keyboard. I already had my computer checked by the Geek Squad at Best Buy and I've removed all viruses...does anyone have any idea what might be causing my problem? If you do, I'm all ears. Thanks.
QUOTE (newguy+Dec 4 2007, 11:09 AM)
All: I had some more problems with my laptop this morning. This time, the g, h, ', ]'s and backspace weren't working. This time I had the problem in my hotel room and there's no problem at the Mall...the last time it was the other way around and with different letters/characters on my keyboard. I already had my computer checked by the Geek Squad at Best Buy and I've removed all viruses...does anyone have any idea what might be causing my problem? If you do, I'm all ears. Thanks.
Backup, format, reinstall.
If that doesn't cure what ails you, call up the geek squad again and tell them they missed a major hardware problem when they gave your computer a clean bill of health.
Backup, format, reinstall.
If that doesn't cure what ails you, call up the geek squad again and tell them they missed a major hardware problem when they gave your computer a clean bill of health.
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+)
Backup, format, reinstall.
BDW: I'd like to, but I can't. I'm presently out of state for a six week period and the disk that I would need to reinstall is a 4 hour drive away.
BDW: I'd like to, but I can't. I'm presently out of state for a six week period and the disk that I would need to reinstall is a 4 hour drive away.
Sounds like "gunk" in the keys.
Has your laptop recently had an accident with a cup of coffee?
Has your laptop recently had an accident with a cup of coffee?
QUOTE (newguy+Dec 4 2007, 11:27 AM)
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+)
Backup, format, reinstall.
BDW: I'd like to, but I can't. I'm presently out of state for a six week period and the disk that I would need to reinstall is a 4 hour drive away.
Then I suggest you boot up in safe mode (assuming it's winXP or earlier) and remove all TSRs not needed. To do this, tap the F8 key as you start up untill it comes to a prompt with several options. Choose "safe mode" (NOT "safe mode with command prompt") then let it finish booting. You'll have no network connectivity (unless you chose "safe mode with networking," in which case, do it over again) then click on the start button, then run.
Type in "msconfig" without the quotations, then go to the startup tab. Anything you don't need on that tab can be unchecked. (For this one, you'll know if you need it. If in doubt, uncheck it.)
Then go to the "services" tab. Be careful here, you could disable some stuff you need. Go through and look for things like updtmgr.exe or any such listing. Anything that looks like an updater you can remove (as long as the publisher is NOT "microsoft") anything like wthrbug.exe or other such plug-ins and TSRs you can remove. When finished, click "apply" then "ok" then click "exit without restarting"
Now click on start and then controll panel. double click on "add/remove programs" and when the list is populated, go though and remove everything that isn't absolutely essential. Weatherbug, games, imaging software, etc... get rid of everything you won't need during your trip. If asked to restart after uninstalling anything, choose not to, untill you're completely finished. Then restart normally and see if it works. If not, you're pretty much screwed.
If you have windows vista... Well, you're pretty much screwed anyways.
Good luck
BDW: I'd like to, but I can't. I'm presently out of state for a six week period and the disk that I would need to reinstall is a 4 hour drive away.
Then I suggest you boot up in safe mode (assuming it's winXP or earlier) and remove all TSRs not needed. To do this, tap the F8 key as you start up untill it comes to a prompt with several options. Choose "safe mode" (NOT "safe mode with command prompt") then let it finish booting. You'll have no network connectivity (unless you chose "safe mode with networking," in which case, do it over again) then click on the start button, then run.
Type in "msconfig" without the quotations, then go to the startup tab. Anything you don't need on that tab can be unchecked. (For this one, you'll know if you need it. If in doubt, uncheck it.)
Then go to the "services" tab. Be careful here, you could disable some stuff you need. Go through and look for things like updtmgr.exe or any such listing. Anything that looks like an updater you can remove (as long as the publisher is NOT "microsoft") anything like wthrbug.exe or other such plug-ins and TSRs you can remove. When finished, click "apply" then "ok" then click "exit without restarting"
Now click on start and then controll panel. double click on "add/remove programs" and when the list is populated, go though and remove everything that isn't absolutely essential. Weatherbug, games, imaging software, etc... get rid of everything you won't need during your trip. If asked to restart after uninstalling anything, choose not to, untill you're completely finished. Then restart normally and see if it works. If not, you're pretty much screwed.
If you have windows vista... Well, you're pretty much screwed anyways.
Good luck
QUOTE (gmilam+)
Sounds like "gunk" in the keys.
Has your laptop recently had an accident with a cup of coffee?
gmilam: No accidents and the keyboard seems clean under the keys.
BigDumbWeirdo: WOW! When does that come out on DVD? I have Windows XP, not Vista. What is a TSR? A Tyrannasaurus Rex?
Seriously though, thanks for your input. Right now I'm up and running at the Mall, so I'm not going to fidget with anything unless it stops working again. I will try what you suggested if I run into trouble again. Thanks.
Has your laptop recently had an accident with a cup of coffee?
gmilam: No accidents and the keyboard seems clean under the keys.
BigDumbWeirdo: WOW! When does that come out on DVD? I have Windows XP, not Vista. What is a TSR? A Tyrannasaurus Rex?
Seriously though, thanks for your input. Right now I'm up and running at the Mall, so I'm not going to fidget with anything unless it stops working again. I will try what you suggested if I run into trouble again. Thanks. QUOTE (newguy+)
What is a TSR? A Tyrannasaurus Rex?
TSR stands for "Terminate but Stay Resident". They are nothing but programs that run in the background.
Another option would be to un-install the device driver and install it again. Probably its better the Best Buy people do it.
I don't want newguy going "I a__emp_ed i_ bu_ i_ did no_w__k".
TSR stands for "Terminate but Stay Resident". They are nothing but programs that run in the background.
Another option would be to un-install the device driver and install it again. Probably its better the Best Buy people do it.
I don't want newguy going "I a__emp_ed i_ bu_ i_ did no_w__k".
Here we go again...
The keyboard on my laptop has completely stopped working(I'm presently posting from my wife's laptop). I did what vkamath suggested earlier on this thread and, according to my control panel, my keyboard is working. I've scanned for viruses and have found none... Does anyone have any suggestions(besides throwing myself off of a cliff
)? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
The keyboard on my laptop has completely stopped working(I'm presently posting from my wife's laptop). I did what vkamath suggested earlier on this thread and, according to my control panel, my keyboard is working. I've scanned for viruses and have found none... Does anyone have any suggestions(besides throwing myself off of a cliff
)? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
By the way, I just tried a "System Restore" and that did not fix the problem... It looks like I'll be heading to Best Buy and the "Geek Squad", unless someone has some advice(besides the aforementioned bungee jumping without a bungee )...
)...
QUOTE (newguy+Feb 18 2008, 05:44 PM)
By the way, I just tried a "System Restore" and that did not fix the problem... It looks like I'll be heading to Best Buy and the "Geek Squad", unless someone has some advice(besides the aforementioned bungee jumping without a bungee )...
I have no idea whats going on buddy. One suggestion would be to throw the laptop off of a cliff.
...or maybe the Geek Squad can have a look at it.
)... I have no idea whats going on buddy. One suggestion would be to throw the laptop off of a cliff.
...or maybe the Geek Squad can have a look at it.
QUOTE (vkamath+)
I have no idea whats going on buddy. One suggestion would be to throw the laptop off of a cliff.
...or maybe the Geek Squad can have a look at it.
vkamath: I just got off the phone with the "Geek Squad" and after hearing the different prices they quoted me for a diagnostic(it was free at the Best Buy when I was in Maryland) or a new keyboard, I've decided to go with "Plan C"...
I'm gonna throw the "Geek Squad" off of a cliff!
Only kidding...well, sort of. I'll let you know how things work out.
...or maybe the Geek Squad can have a look at it.
vkamath: I just got off the phone with the "Geek Squad" and after hearing the different prices they quoted me for a diagnostic(it was free at the Best Buy when I was in Maryland) or a new keyboard, I've decided to go with "Plan C"...
I'm gonna throw the "Geek Squad" off of a cliff!
Only kidding...well, sort of. I'll let you know how things work out.
QUOTE (newguy+)
I'm gonna throw the "Geek Squad" off of a cliff!
Only kidding...well, sort of. I'll let you know how things work out.
What are you "Cliff" Richard?
sorry...couldn't resist saying that.
Only kidding...well, sort of. I'll let you know how things work out.
What are you "Cliff" Richard?sorry...couldn't resist saying that.
QUOTE (vkamath+Feb 18 2008, 06:44 PM)
QUOTE (newguy+)
I'm gonna throw the "Geek Squad" off of a cliff!
Only kidding...well, sort of. I'll let you know how things work out.
What are you "Cliff" Richard?
sorry...couldn't resist saying that.
Hi newguy!
Have you tried going into the nearest computer store and asking to try out a new (compatible) key board (assuming your system has the capability to allow 'bypassing' of a faulty inbuilt keyboard via a usb/etc input socket!)?
If the tryout keyboard doesn't work either, then at least you'll know it's not the keyboard connector/circuitry! hehehe.
BTW, in your setup, does your battery/mains power have any effect/conversation on/with the keyboard 'directly/indirectly' when you 'power up' and 'reboor' etc.?
PS: Is it possible that your SECURITY SYSTEM has been accidently activated so as to 'LOCK OUT' any input from your keyboard?
PPS: Also, is it possible that you have somehow activated/locked into input mode from one of the 'disc-drives/usb/etc' INPUT DEVICES...which might lock out keyboard input until the device is 'deselected'?
Just throwing 'remote possibilities' at ya, mate....one never knows with computers! hehehe.
Good luck.
RC.
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Is there some way to disable this function from working, other than by lopping off my "pinky"(that didn't sound right
)?
Don't worry, with a little 'pixie dust' you can grow another one nowadays...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7354458.stm
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Only kidding...well, sort of. I'll let you know how things work out.
What are you "Cliff" Richard?sorry...couldn't resist saying that.
Hi newguy!
Have you tried going into the nearest computer store and asking to try out a new (compatible) key board (assuming your system has the capability to allow 'bypassing' of a faulty inbuilt keyboard via a usb/etc input socket!)?
If the tryout keyboard doesn't work either, then at least you'll know it's not the keyboard connector/circuitry! hehehe.
BTW, in your setup, does your battery/mains power have any effect/conversation on/with the keyboard 'directly/indirectly' when you 'power up' and 'reboor' etc.?
PS: Is it possible that your SECURITY SYSTEM has been accidently activated so as to 'LOCK OUT' any input from your keyboard?
PPS: Also, is it possible that you have somehow activated/locked into input mode from one of the 'disc-drives/usb/etc' INPUT DEVICES...which might lock out keyboard input until the device is 'deselected'?
Just throwing 'remote possibilities' at ya, mate....one never knows with computers! hehehe.
Good luck.
RC.
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RealityCheck: I was planning on trying the "compatible keyboard"...I just haven't had the time to find the old one that I've got lying around here somewhere. I'm curious about the "Security setting" suggestion. Sometimes, when I'm typing at a furious pace(as I was earlier today), I accidentally hit buttons...is it possible that I did accidentally block out my keyboard? If so, how would I undo what I've done? Wouldn't the "System Restore" that I did have rectified that problem, though? Please explain. Anyhow, thanks for your "input"(something my keyboard won't presently allow ).
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QUOTE (newguy+Feb 18 2008, 09:02 PM)
RealityCheck: I was planning on trying the "compatible keyboard"...I just haven't had the time to find the old one that I've got lying around here somewhere. I'm curious about the "Security setting" suggestion. Sometimes, when I'm typing at a furious pace(as I was earlier today), I accidentally hit buttons...is it possible that I did accidentally block out my keyboard? If so, how would I undo what I've done? Wouldn't the "System Restore" that I did have rectified that problem, though? Please explain. Anyhow, thanks for your "input"(something my keyboard won't presently allow ).
Hi again!
It depends on whether the 'unlock' function requires DELIBERATE 'reversal' of the procedure that locked it using some 'password' access to that 'unlock/reversal' function.
In which case the security would REMAIN despite off/on states.....because it wouldn't be much 'security' if all an intruder had to do was swith off/on the computer to 'cancel' the security settings! hehehe....albeit you may have 'set' them accidently!).
Good luck!
RC.
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).Hi again!
It depends on whether the 'unlock' function requires DELIBERATE 'reversal' of the procedure that locked it using some 'password' access to that 'unlock/reversal' function.
In which case the security would REMAIN despite off/on states.....because it wouldn't be much 'security' if all an intruder had to do was swith off/on the computer to 'cancel' the security settings! hehehe....albeit you may have 'set' them accidently!).
Good luck!
RC.
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Y'all have all offered very good suggestions, but I have a question or two for newguy.
Why do you do a 'system restore' as your first line of attack? Do you not have to set everything up again each and every time you 'restore'?
Sorry, not being nasty, just very curious.
Why do you do a 'system restore' as your first line of attack? Do you not have to set everything up again each and every time you 'restore'?
Sorry, not being nasty, just very curious.
Sapo: Actually, in this instance, it was my second "line of attack". A "System Restore" merely restores my system to how it was at an earlier time(as far as I know) and it is totally reversible. In this case, I chose to restore my system to yesterday, when my computer was working just fine. As far as I know, there is no need to "set everything up again"(reconfigure?). I've never claimed to be too "computer savvy" and I did humbly ask for "HELP!" Anyhow, no "nastiness" perceived at this end. Take care.
P.S. It has been "one of those days", though. My van is also "on the blink" and my two-year-old daughter spilled grape juice all over my wife's keyboard. I'm having a helluva time typing...
P.S. It has been "one of those days", though. My van is also "on the blink" and my two-year-old daughter spilled grape juice all over my wife's keyboard. I'm having a helluva time typing...
Oh oh :)
First I thought you was having a joke on us ::))
Writing like you did..
But if you have a keyboard failure like that I would look at hardware first.
Get a usb keyboard, connect it and if that works then it's hardware.
First I thought you was having a joke on us ::))
Writing like you did..
But if you have a keyboard failure like that I would look at hardware first.
Get a usb keyboard, connect it and if that works then it's hardware.
yor on: If you look closely, you will notice that my initial cry for "HELP!" was back in November of 2007. This is a new problem, but it may very well be linked to my old problem. Anyhow, I do have a keyboard lying about somewhere...if and when I find it, I'll let you know if it rectifies my problem or not. Until then...
QUOTE (newguy+Feb 18 2008, 07:05 PM)
Sapo: Actually, in this instance, it was my second "line of attack". A "System Restore" merely restores my system to how it was at an earlier time(as far as I know) and it is totally reversible. In this case, I chose to restore my system to yesterday, when my computer was working just fine. As far as I know, there is no need to "set everything up again"(reconfigure?). I've never claimed to be too "computer savvy" and I did humbly ask for "HELP!" Anyhow, no "nastiness" perceived at this end. Take care.
P.S. It has been "one of those days", though. My van is also "on the blink" and my two-year-old daughter spilled grape juice all over my wife's keyboard. I'm having a helluva time typing...
Cool. I had forgotten about Windows 'Checkpoints', too. I don't use Windows any longer because of peculiarities like the one you're having.
Grape juice is better than cola, anyway... Best luck!
P.S. It has been "one of those days", though. My van is also "on the blink" and my two-year-old daughter spilled grape juice all over my wife's keyboard. I'm having a helluva time typing...
Cool. I had forgotten about Windows 'Checkpoints', too. I don't use Windows any longer because of peculiarities like the one you're having.
Grape juice is better than cola, anyway... Best luck!
Well, I figured out what is wrong with my laptop...
IT IS POSSESSED!!!
I took it to the Geek Squad at Best Buy tonight and it worked perfectly fine. The same thing happened to me when I had this problem in Maryland. Oh well...
IT IS POSSESSED!!!
I took it to the Geek Squad at Best Buy tonight and it worked perfectly fine. The same thing happened to me when I had this problem in Maryland. Oh well...
NewGuy,
I haven’t read through the thread so forgive if someone else has asked, but being a System Admin, I have to ask, do you backup regularly? If so, great. If not…
I haven’t read through the thread so forgive if someone else has asked, but being a System Admin, I have to ask, do you backup regularly? If so, great. If not…
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
NewGuy,
I haven’t read through the thread so forgive if someone else has asked, but being a System Admin, I have to ask, do you backup regularly? If so, great. If not…
GeneSplicer: Only when I pull out of my driveway...
To my recollection, I've NEVER done a backup...I'm not even sure how to do one. How would this possibly affect my keyboard, though...or did you have something else in mind? I'm all ears...
I haven’t read through the thread so forgive if someone else has asked, but being a System Admin, I have to ask, do you backup regularly? If so, great. If not…
GeneSplicer: Only when I pull out of my driveway...
To my recollection, I've NEVER done a backup...I'm not even sure how to do one. How would this possibly affect my keyboard, though...or did you have something else in mind? I'm all ears...
Nothing to do with your keyboard, just a typical SA worry about data retention.
Let me put it this way. If your system ever critically failed and the hard drive was also gone, how much would you lose?
Depending on how much data you have (not programs) a 8GB USB thumb drive ($40 on average now)would be able to hold your data.
Just an idea.
Let me put it this way. If your system ever critically failed and the hard drive was also gone, how much would you lose?
Depending on how much data you have (not programs) a 8GB USB thumb drive ($40 on average now)would be able to hold your data.
Just an idea.
GeneSplicer: You may recall(if you read that particular post of mine) that I mentioned some time ago(close to two years ago, I think) that my hard drive did "break"(I'm not sure what word to use?)...so much so that they(the infamous Geek Squad) were unable to retrieve any of my files from it. At that time, it hurt me a lot more than it would now, because I had a lot of photographs saved in "My Pictures" that I used to have printed out at Wal*Mart. You may also recall that I mentioned in the past that I originally sold photography for a living and then made the switch to t-shirts/other clothing items. Anyhow, thanks for the concern...I thought that was where you were going and that your comments weren't keyboard related, but I thought I'd better ask anyway. Good night.
I hate to write this , but maybe you should consider changing that laptop./computer.
It sounds like a intermittent fault that comes and go.
Most often those are hardware related and extremely difficult to diagnose.
And If you're using it in your business you should save/burn your important stuff to a DVD/CD:s first. Genesplicers recommendation makes very good sense to me.
It could be almost anything that f***s it up, from your hard drive too your keyboard too some other chip on your motherboard.
But do that backup.
It sounds like a intermittent fault that comes and go.
Most often those are hardware related and extremely difficult to diagnose.
And If you're using it in your business you should save/burn your important stuff to a DVD/CD:s first. Genesplicers recommendation makes very good sense to me.
It could be almost anything that f***s it up, from your hard drive too your keyboard too some other chip on your motherboard.
But do that backup.
yor on: Your suggestion is quite practical/logical and I have strongly considered doing exactly what you've suggested. In fact, while driving towards Best Buy last night, I fully intended/expected to be purchasing a new laptop. Since my last hard drive ordeal, I've really avoided leaving any important information(work-related or other) SOLELY on my computer. This being the case, since my laptop is presently functional, I'll "ride it" as long as it lasts. Thanks for the input, though.
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Intermittent, eh? Perhaps it's to do with inadequate 'shielding' of circuits/cables from electromagnetic interference/overload in environments of high electro-mag activity (including bad car alternator shielding in your van or other nearby trucks/machinery/equipment)?....and hence incidental activation of your laptop/keyboard 'confused input' IGNORE functions?....or perhaps it just 'freezes' when the interference is not able to be 'processed'....as in INSTRUCTION DOES NOT COMPUTE....WILL FREEZE, hehehe.
Just thinking out wildly there, mate! Good luck with the 'excorcism' if it IS 'possessed' by those evil 'computer gods' who seem determined to drive us all mad, hehehe!
RC.
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Intermittent, eh? Perhaps it's to do with inadequate 'shielding' of circuits/cables from electromagnetic interference/overload in environments of high electro-mag activity (including bad car alternator shielding in your van or other nearby trucks/machinery/equipment)?....and hence incidental activation of your laptop/keyboard 'confused input' IGNORE functions?....or perhaps it just 'freezes' when the interference is not able to be 'processed'....as in INSTRUCTION DOES NOT COMPUTE....WILL FREEZE, hehehe.
Just thinking out wildly there, mate! Good luck with the 'excorcism' if it IS 'possessed' by those evil 'computer gods' who seem determined to drive us all mad, hehehe!
RC.
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Well, it's time for an update. About 6 or 7 weeks ago, my wife spilled a bowl of cereal on my laptop(there goes the motherboard) and officially put it out of its misery. Since then, I have purchased a desktop...I figured that it would be a little harder for the "gremlins"(my wife and children) to destroy it piece by piece. Anyhow, I have a recurring problem that is really screwing me up. For some reason, things that I'm typing are getting erased. It seems that as I'm typing, I'm accidentally hitting either a single key or a combination of keys in the lower lefthand corner of my keyboard that is causing all my work to be erased(it just happened again a minute ago...this is the second time that I'm typing this). I purchased an "emachines" monitor, tower and keyboard at Best Buy. The keys that are in the lower lefthand corner of my keyboard are as follows:
Right below the "shift key", on the bottom row, there is the "ctrl key" to the far left. Next to it is a key that looks like a flag in 4 sections(it looks like the windows logo that you get when you turn your computer on). Next to that is the "alt" key and then comes the "spacebar".
Can anyone tell me if hitting one of these keys or a combination of them accidentally will cause one's work to be erased? Has anyone else encountered such problems? Any advice(besides going to play in traffic...although I'm considering it) would be greatly appreciated. I'll be travelling extensively for the next 6 days, but I will check for responses when I'm able. Thanks.
Right below the "shift key", on the bottom row, there is the "ctrl key" to the far left. Next to it is a key that looks like a flag in 4 sections(it looks like the windows logo that you get when you turn your computer on). Next to that is the "alt" key and then comes the "spacebar".
Can anyone tell me if hitting one of these keys or a combination of them accidentally will cause one's work to be erased? Has anyone else encountered such problems? Any advice(besides going to play in traffic...although I'm considering it) would be greatly appreciated. I'll be travelling extensively for the next 6 days, but I will check for responses when I'm able. Thanks.
QUOTE (newguy+Apr 30 2008, 11:07 PM)
Well, it's time for an update. About 6 or 7 weeks ago, my wife spilled a bowl of cereal on my laptop(there goes the motherboard) and officially put it out of its misery. Since then, I have purchased a desktop...I figured that it would be a little harder for the "gremlins"(my wife and children) to destroy it piece by piece. Anyhow, I have a recurring problem that is really screwing me up. For some reason, things that I'm typing are getting erased. It seems that as I'm typing, I'm accidentally hitting either a single key or a combination of keys in the lower lefthand corner of my keyboard that is causing all my work to be erased(it just happened again a minute ago...this is the second time that I'm typing this). I purchased an "emachines" monitor, tower and keyboard at Best Buy. The keys that are in the lower lefthand corner of my keyboard are as follows:
Right below the "shift key", on the bottom row, there is the "ctrl key" to the far left. Next to it is a key that looks like a flag in 4 sections(it looks like the windows logo that you get when you turn your computer on). Next to that is the "alt" key and then comes the "spacebar".
Can anyone tell me if hitting one of these keys or a combination of them accidentally will cause one's work to be erased? Has anyone else encountered such problems? Any advice(besides going to play in traffic...although I'm considering it) would be greatly appreciated. I'll be travelling extensively for the next 6 days, but I will check for responses when I'm able. Thanks.
Did a little research into your problem an discovered that pressing Ctrl and Z simultaneously when posting causes your post to disappear. Try it.
Right below the "shift key", on the bottom row, there is the "ctrl key" to the far left. Next to it is a key that looks like a flag in 4 sections(it looks like the windows logo that you get when you turn your computer on). Next to that is the "alt" key and then comes the "spacebar".
Can anyone tell me if hitting one of these keys or a combination of them accidentally will cause one's work to be erased? Has anyone else encountered such problems? Any advice(besides going to play in traffic...although I'm considering it) would be greatly appreciated. I'll be travelling extensively for the next 6 days, but I will check for responses when I'm able. Thanks.
Did a little research into your problem an discovered that pressing Ctrl and Z simultaneously when posting causes your post to disappear. Try it.
ctrl-z...
Isn't that the old DOS "end of file" marker?
Isn't that the old DOS "end of file" marker?
vkamath: Thanks for the research. I did try it and it certainly did erase my work. I can't, for the life of me, imagine how I'm hitting both of those keys at the same time, but I'll certainly do my best to avoid them in the future. One other problem that I'm having...I'm semi-regularly having a page pop-up(after accidentally hitting something) that says "blank page". When this happens, I'm able to just click on the "x" in the box and it takes me back to what I was doing. Anyone ever heard of that? Oh, well. It's 1:35 a.m. and I've got to get ready for work. Thanks again.
EDIT: Before I go...
Is there some way to disable this function from working, other than by lopping off my "pinky"(that didn't sound right )?
EDIT: Before I go...
Is there some way to disable this function from working, other than by lopping off my "pinky"(that didn't sound right
)?
QUOTE (newguy+May 1 2008, 05:07 AM)
Is there some way to disable this function from working, other than by lopping off my "pinky"(that didn't sound right
)? Don't worry, with a little 'pixie dust' you can grow another one nowadays...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7354458.stm
g.
QUOTE (gmilam+May 1 2008, 04:02 AM)
ctrl-z...
Isn't that the old DOS "end of file" marker?
yes, it is. In windows it is the key for Undo and Redo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-Z
But somehow on Physorg only the Undo works.
newguy -
You can prepare your post in notepad before cutting(Ctrl-C) and pasting(Ctrl-V) in the Physorg window. In notepad, if it disappears you can press Ctrl-Z again to bring it back.
Isn't that the old DOS "end of file" marker?
yes, it is. In windows it is the key for Undo and Redo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-Z
But somehow on Physorg only the Undo works.
newguy -
You can prepare your post in notepad before cutting(Ctrl-C) and pasting(Ctrl-V) in the Physorg window. In notepad, if it disappears you can press Ctrl-Z again to bring it back.
It’s a parasitical program that attaches itself and begins to corrupt your normal running o.s.
You can terminate and stay resident, or completely shut the computer down saving all that you need before.
You can terminate and stay resident, or completely shut the computer down saving all that you need before.
QUOTE (philip347+May 1 2008, 07:35 PM)
It’s a parasitical program that attaches itself and begins to corrupt your normal running o.s.
What is?
Windows?
Physorg?
Or maybe technology in general.
What is?
Windows?
Physorg?
Or maybe technology in general.
QUOTE (gmilam+May 2 2008, 01:33 AM)
What is?
Windows?
Physorg?
Or maybe technology in general.
Truth!
g.
Windows?
Physorg?
Or maybe technology in general.
Truth!
g.
QUOTE (Gorgeous+May 2 2008, 11:26 AM)
Truth!
g.
Describe "Truth."
g.
Describe "Truth."
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 2 2008, 07:27 AM)
Describe "Truth."
Truth is like a beautiful flower, that smells really odd.
Several times someone has tried to bring truth to Earth, but it keeps getting quarantined as it passes through customs.
Truth is like a beautiful flower, that smells really odd.
Several times someone has tried to bring truth to Earth, but it keeps getting quarantined as it passes through customs.
QUOTE (gmilam+May 2 2008, 12:39 PM)
Truth is like a beautiful flower, that smells really odd.
Several times someone has tried to bring truth to Earth, but it keeps getting quarantined as it passes through customs.
"Truth" isn't popular, it doesn't sell.
Several times someone has tried to bring truth to Earth, but it keeps getting quarantined as it passes through customs.
"Truth" isn't popular, it doesn't sell.
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 2 2008, 12:44 PM)
"Truth" isn't popular, it doesn't sell.
That's not always true, is it?
Truth is both popular AND unpopular; it sells AND does not sell. Truth is also a really odd flower that smells very beautiful!
Whatever exists is 'true', regardless of its 'smell'.
Truth is Reality. Truth is Existence.
Truth smells both 'good' AND 'bad'.
Truth is liked AND disliked.
Truth is you AND me, known AND unknown.
Truth is limited AND unlimited, finite AND Infinite.
Truth is the murderous, raping Japanese army, AND the innocent Japanese children incinerated by American bombs.
Truth is misery AND joy.
All things that are, are Truth.
g.
That's not always true, is it?
Truth is both popular AND unpopular; it sells AND does not sell. Truth is also a really odd flower that smells very beautiful!
Whatever exists is 'true', regardless of its 'smell'.
Truth is Reality. Truth is Existence.
Truth smells both 'good' AND 'bad'.
Truth is liked AND disliked.
Truth is you AND me, known AND unknown.
Truth is limited AND unlimited, finite AND Infinite.
Truth is the murderous, raping Japanese army, AND the innocent Japanese children incinerated by American bombs.
Truth is misery AND joy.
All things that are, are Truth.
g.
QUOTE (Gorgeous+May 2 2008, 01:27 PM)
Truth is Reality. Truth is Existence.
Truth smells both 'good' AND 'bad'.
Truth is liked AND disliked.
Truth is you AND me, known AND unknown.
Truth is limited AND unlimited, finite AND Infinite.
Truth is the murderous, raping Japanese army, AND the innocent Japanese children incinerated by American bombs.
Truth is misery AND joy.
All things that are, are Truth.
g.
That is very poetic. I don't believe it makes any sense. But it is poetic.
Truth smells both 'good' AND 'bad'.
Truth is liked AND disliked.
Truth is you AND me, known AND unknown.
Truth is limited AND unlimited, finite AND Infinite.
Truth is the murderous, raping Japanese army, AND the innocent Japanese children incinerated by American bombs.
Truth is misery AND joy.
All things that are, are Truth.
g.
That is very poetic. I don't believe it makes any sense. But it is poetic.
Truth tugs on Superman's cape and then blames his little brother.
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 2 2008, 01:31 PM)
That is very poetic. I don't believe it makes any sense. But it is poetic.
It is not to be 'believed', but to be known.
It is the act of 'belief' that makes no 'sense'. There is what there is, and 'belief' has no say in the matter.
'Belief' attempts to divide the undividable!
g.
It is not to be 'believed', but to be known.
It is the act of 'belief' that makes no 'sense'. There is what there is, and 'belief' has no say in the matter.
'Belief' attempts to divide the undividable!
g.
Okay. I'll drop the word "believe."
It makes no sense.
It makes no sense.
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 2 2008, 01:44 PM)
Okay. I'll drop the word "believe."
It makes no sense.
You know it makes sense! (to drop the word 'belief'!)
g.
It makes no sense.
You know it makes sense! (to drop the word 'belief'!)
g.
QUOTE (Gorgeous+May 2 2008, 08:38 AM)
There is what there is, and 'belief' has no say in the matter.
And that's the truth.
Seriously.
And that's the truth.
Seriously.
QUOTE (gmilam+May 2 2008, 01:50 PM)
And that's the truth.
Seriously.
I believe you might be right -
Seriously.
I believe you might be right -
That is like agreeing with the Mad Hatter. Only reality is real. Belief is just believing.
“The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that Derek1148 has made it take place.” (Apologies to George Bernard Shaw) (())
))
QUOTE (photojack+May 2 2008, 02:26 PM)
“The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that Derek1148 has made it take place.” (Apologies to George Bernard Shaw) (())
You haven’t been here in a while. I thought you had gone somewhere. Like a Marxist peace rally or maybe a leftist anti-war commune. It is good to talk to you again, though.
)) You haven’t been here in a while. I thought you had gone somewhere. Like a Marxist peace rally or maybe a leftist anti-war commune. It is good to talk to you again, though.
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 2 2008, 01:59 PM)
That is like agreeing with the Mad Hatter.
I would say that murdering innocent people so that the rich can profit from the oil beneath their feet is more like 'agreeing with the mad hatter', but it is a matter of (limited) choice, as ever.
g.
I would say that murdering innocent people so that the rich can profit from the oil beneath their feet is more like 'agreeing with the mad hatter', but it is a matter of (limited) choice, as ever.
g.
QUOTE (Gorgeous+May 2 2008, 05:25 PM)
I would say that murdering innocent people so that the rich can profit from the oil beneath their feet is more like 'agreeing with the mad hatter', but it is a matter of (limited) choice, as ever.
g.
Really?
WHO is murdering innocent people for Oil? Do back up that assertion please, that is a serious indictment, and you better have some evidence when insulting MY country.
g.
Really?
WHO is murdering innocent people for Oil? Do back up that assertion please, that is a serious indictment, and you better have some evidence when insulting MY country.
QUOTE (deadbeat+May 5 2008, 07:26 AM)
Really?
WHO is murdering innocent people for Oil? Do back up that assertion please, that is a serious indictment, and you better have some evidence when insulting MY country.
Ah, the political stalker returns!
YOU do not 'have' a country! No mere human, or groups thereof, can 'own' pieces of land. You borrow and steal, just like everyone else, and then pretend to yourself you have 'culture', or that you are 'civilised'!
Hey, where is 'physfan' these days?
I saw (him) stalking the boards the other day, but no post as yet....
g.
WHO is murdering innocent people for Oil? Do back up that assertion please, that is a serious indictment, and you better have some evidence when insulting MY country.
Ah, the political stalker returns!
YOU do not 'have' a country! No mere human, or groups thereof, can 'own' pieces of land. You borrow and steal, just like everyone else, and then pretend to yourself you have 'culture', or that you are 'civilised'!
Hey, where is 'physfan' these days?
I saw (him) stalking the boards the other day, but no post as yet....g.
QUOTE (deadbeat+May 5 2008, 02:26 AM)
Really?
WHO is murdering innocent people for Oil? Do back up that assertion please, that is a serious indictment, and you better have some evidence when insulting MY country.
Found those WMDs yet?
Found Bin Laden yet?
How much money has Halliburton made from this fiasco?
WHO is murdering innocent people for Oil? Do back up that assertion please, that is a serious indictment, and you better have some evidence when insulting MY country.
Found those WMDs yet?
Found Bin Laden yet?
How much money has Halliburton made from this fiasco?
QUOTE
"I was happy when the troops came in April and ousted Saddam Hussein, but now I think they are scum"
Anwar Jawad
Anwar Jawad
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3212156.stm
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/
g.
How does one differentiate "belief" from "blind patriotism"?
And maybe deadbeat thinks HIS country is "infallible" like HIS religion? (())
Does deadbeat think ONLY religion brought culture and civilization to man?
Try telling THAT to the Native Americans who were brutalized, enslaved and forced to build churches to a God they didn't believe in!
For REAL enlightenment, please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Oñate
"In October of 1598, a skirmish erupted when Oñate's occupying Spanish military demanded supplies from the Acoma tribe--demanding things essential to the Acoma surviving the winter. The Acoma resisted and thirteen Spaniards were killed, amongst them Don Juan Oñate’s nephew. In 1599, Oñate retaliated; his soldiers killed 800 villagers. They enslaved the remaining 500 women and children, and by Don Juan’s decree, they amputated the left foot of every Acoma man over the age of twenty-five. Eighty men had their left foot amputated.
"Onward Christian Soldiers" takes on new meaning after THIS!
QUOTE
...and you better have some evidence when insulting MY country.
deadbeat quote. And maybe deadbeat thinks HIS country is "infallible" like HIS religion? ((
))Does deadbeat think ONLY religion brought culture and civilization to man?
Try telling THAT to the Native Americans who were brutalized, enslaved and forced to build churches to a God they didn't believe in!
For REAL enlightenment, please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Oñate
"In October of 1598, a skirmish erupted when Oñate's occupying Spanish military demanded supplies from the Acoma tribe--demanding things essential to the Acoma surviving the winter. The Acoma resisted and thirteen Spaniards were killed, amongst them Don Juan Oñate’s nephew. In 1599, Oñate retaliated; his soldiers killed 800 villagers. They enslaved the remaining 500 women and children, and by Don Juan’s decree, they amputated the left foot of every Acoma man over the age of twenty-five. Eighty men had their left foot amputated.
"Onward Christian Soldiers" takes on new meaning after THIS!
The Trail of Tears
Many of these Native Americans were Christian (it didn't seem to matter)
http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html
Many of these Native Americans were Christian (it didn't seem to matter)
http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html
pnelson419, And they were only "Christian" because it was rammed down their throats by missionaries intent on "converting" the "savages" from their "heretical" beliefs! Most Native Americans have an entirely different view toward Christians. My example from New Mexico could be augmented by your example in Georgia and from the California "Mission" Indians, and tribes in Arizona, Texas and elsewhere. Some of it was based on the same mentality that later was called "ethnic cleansing". I've had many close friends who were Indians, have gone on long hunting hikes and camping trips with them. One of the greatest compliments I ever received, and it gives me "goose bumps" to this day, was from the fiancee, (a Navaho) of my best friend, (a Shoshone) who said, "You're more like an Indian than he is! In the context of that situation, I was humbled. She recognized my empathy and respect for their cultures and traditions. I remain that way almost 35 years later.
I've had many close friends who were Indians, have gone on long hunting hikes and camping trips with them. One of the greatest compliments I ever received, and it gives me "goose bumps" to this day, was from the fiancee, (a Navaho) of my best friend, (a Shoshone) who said, "You're more like an Indian than he is! In the context of that situation, I was humbled. She recognized my empathy and respect for their cultures and traditions. I remain that way almost 35 years later.
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