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Star Sludge
I want to introduce the idea that HIV is based merely on a test that picks up antigens associated with diseases such as cancer and autoimmunity and other retroviruses such as Bovine Leukemia Virus which 75% of people have antibodies to.
In particular the so called P24 or HIV core antigen also part of BLV.

That retroviruses are genomic and controlled by a nutritional process called Methylation and drugs such as AZT only appear to work because they hypermethylate the Genome.

"Thus, the HIV LTR appears to be susceptible to transcriptional inactivation by methylation, a process that is proposed to play a modulatory role in viral latency."
Methylation as a modulator of expression of human immunodeficiency virus.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...7&dopt=Abstract

Methylation Therapy
http://www.cumc.columbia.edu/news/frontier...2_0005.html#top

I've written about it here and I have a lot more fine details to add if you want to talk about it?

Why Retroviruses Appear in AIDS, Cancer and Autoimmune Diseases
https://www1.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/06/342295.html

Cal Crilly 26th May 2006.

Or the original here with Fintan's comment...

"Cal Crilly's devastating analysis of AIDS, below, highlights the outdated science behind current treatments and shows the true causes and cure.

He takes us on a densely referenced tour through the largely unknown mechanisms underlying viruses, reteroviruses, cancer and autoimmune diseases. So this has implications far beyond AIDS.

Cal's treatise is based on existing mainstream scientific and medical research. The kind of research the vendors of medicine's magic pills simply ignore in hope it will just go away. Crilly makes it impossible to ignore. An eye opener!"

Why Retroviruses Appear in AIDS, Cancer and Autoimmune Diseases
http://www.mylonglife.com/articles/Retrovi...ne_Diseases.htm

I do hope you will talk about it, I'll be polite...CU's Cal

I'm a musician...
http://www.myspace.com/starsludge
Star Sludge
OK…I’m precisely going through the flaws in the HIV tests.

REVERSE TRANSCRIPTASE
The first is the Reverse Transcriptase test or viral load test.

“Reverse Transcriptase from HIV-1 is of tremendous medical interest as it is the target enzyme for the best known of anti-AIDS drugs, AZT, which acts by causing chain termination of the polymerase reaction.”
HIV-1 Reverse Transcriptase
http://www.biochem.ucl.ac.uk/bsm/xtal/teach/repl/rt.html

The problem is that our genome contains 8% retrovirus in our DNA and these endogenous retroviruses also use Reverse Transcriptase, so how do we tell if it’s our own HERV’s or HIV.
It all depends on the HIV antibody test to confirm if it is ‘HIV’ Reverse Transcriptase.

Identification of an Active Reverse Transcriptase Enzyme Encoded by a Human Endogenous HERV-K Retrovirus
http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/73/3/2365

“Phylogenetic analyses of retroviral elements, including endogenous retroviruses, have relied essentially on the retroviral pol gene expressing the highly conserved reverse transcriptase. This enzyme is essential for the life cycle of all retroid elements, but other genes are also endowed with conserved essential functions. Among them, the transmembrane ™ subunit of the envelope gene is involved in virus entry through membrane fusion.”
Identification, Phylogeny, and Evolution of Retroviral Elements Based on Their Envelope Genes
http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/content/full/75/23/...g&pmid=11689652

P24
The next flaw is the p24 antigen of ‘HIV’ which is claimed to be specific to ‘HIV’…

“A major core protein of the human immunodeficiency virus encoded by the HIV gag gene. HIV-seropositive individuals mount a significant immune response to p24 and thus detection of antibodies to p24 is one basis for determining HIV infection by ELISA and Western blot assays.
HIV Core Protein
http://medical.webends.com/kw/HIV%20Core%20Protein%20p24

But everyone who consumes milk products or eats cattle will be exposed to the p24 of the Bovine Leukemia Virus and also can test positive to the test.

“Using immunoblotting to test the sera of 257 humans for antibodies of four isotypes (IgG1, IgM, IgA, and IgG4) to the BLV capsid antigen (p24), we detected at least one antibody isotype reactive with BLV in 74% of the human sera tested.”
Humans Have Antibodies Reactive with Bovine Leukemia Virus 2003
http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.10...922203771881202

And anyone with lupus or hyperthyroid autoimmune diseases can also test positive to p24.
These diseases also have the similar symptoms to so called ‘HIV’ infection.

“We have previously demonstrated that about one-third of patients with either Sjögren's syndrome (SS) or systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) react to human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) p24 core protein antigen without any evidence of exposure to, or infection with, HIV itself.”
Reactivity of Sera from Systemic Lupus Erythematosus and Sjögren's Syndrome Patients with Peptides Derived from Human Immunodeficiency Virus p24 Capsid Antigen
http://cvi.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/5/2/181

This is where it gets terrifying, I have in the last month swapped emails with a pregnant lady diagnosed with HIV, she was given all sorts of medication and also put under great pressure to take abortion pills which she did. She then re-tested and came up negative.
The reason for the positive cross-reaction with the test is due to the endogenous retrovirus HERV-W which is involved in attaching the fetus to the placenta, within the HERV-W is a gp24 transmembrane subunit.
GP stands for glycoprotein and is shortened to protein when called P24, they are the same and react to an antigen test.

“Syncytin is a fusogenic protein involved in the formation of the placental syncytiotrophoblast layer. This protein is encoded by the envelope gene of the ERVWE1 proviral locus belonging to the human endogenous retrovirus W (HERV-W) family. The HERV-W infectious ancestor entered the primate lineage 25 to 40 million years ago. Although the syncytin fusion property has been clearly demonstrated, little is known about this cellular protein maturation process with respect to classical infectious retrovirus envelope proteins. Here we show that the cellular syncytin protein is synthesized as a glycosylated gPr73 precursor cleaved into two mature proteins, a gp50 surface subunit (SU) and a gp24 transmembrane subunit ™.”
Synthesis, Assembly, and Processing of the Env ERVWE1/Syncytin Human Endogenous Retroviral Envelope 2005
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...i?artid=1082723

At the beginning of pregnancy a wave of de-methylation occurs and this is a normal part of pregnancy, this is also why the retroviruses come out of the genome and get active.
They are not a disease though, they have function.
Of course a drug like AZT which they give to pregnant women worldwide completely wrecks this process.

T-CELL TESTS
Hypomethylation affects T-cells as well as makes retroviruses come out of our DNA.
The T-cell test is really picking up changes in T-cell counts attributed to other real infections and problems with Methylation due to a lack of nutrients needed to Methylate.
It is not ‘HIV’ causing the lowered count.

“Procainamide and hydralazine inhibit T cell DNA methylation and induce autoreactivity in cloned CD4+ T cells. These drugs also induce an autoimmune syndrome, suggesting a possible relationship between DNA hypomethylation, T cell autoreactivity, and certain autoimmune diseases. To test this relationship, DNA methylation was studied in T cells from patients with rheumatoid arthritis and patients with systemic lupus erythematosus, and was found to be impaired. These results support a relationship between DNA hypomethylation and some forms of autoimmune disease.”
Evidence for impaired T cell DNA methylation in systemic lupus erythematosus and rheumatoid arthritis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...3&dopt=Abstract

“DNA methylation plays an essential role in maintaining T-cell function. A growing body of literature indicates that failure to maintain DNA methylation levels and patterns in mature T cells can result in T-cell autoreactivity in vitro and autoimmunity in vivo. Defective maintenance of DNA methylation may be caused by drugs such as procainamide or hydralazine, or failure to activate the genes encoding maintenance DNA methyltransferases during mitosis, resulting in the development of a lupus-like disease or perhaps other autoimmune disorders. This paper reviews the evidence supporting a role for abnormal T-cell DNA methylation in causing autoimmunity in an animal model of drug-induced lupus, and discusses some of the mechanisms involved. T cells from patients with active lupus have evidence for most if not all of the same methylation abnormalities, suggesting that abnormal DNA methylation plays a role in idiopathic human lupus as well.”
DNA methylation and autoimmune disease.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...t_uids=14585278

The main nutrient needed for Methylation is Selenium and this is probably why low Glutathione (a Selenium compound) is an indicator of AIDS progression.
Harold Foster is using it in Selenium trials in Africa
http://www.hdfoster.com/

And Tine Van Der Maas is teaching Africans to treat themselves by using Lemons and Garlic (a food containing Selenium)
http://www.powertothepeople.co.za/

Nothing changed in the early ‘80’s, the tests picked up retroviruses that came out when gays using Amyl Nitrate had depleted their bodies of Methylation Nutrients.
The HIV tests themselves have been the source of the epidemic.

It’s up to the scientists now to go back to the drawing board and find a way out of this without massive litigation crippling the biomedical industry.

I'd love some thoughtful feedback.
Have a good day all.
Star Sludge
AZT is used on women and children that are unfortunate enough to test come up positive in the HIV test.
This is standard treatment here in Australia.

"Much more is known about AZT. Treatment using AZT is started between twelve and thirty four weeks of pregnancy and stopped six weeks after the baby is born."
Women & HIV Fact Sheet 5 - Pregnancy
http://www.fpahealth.org.au/sex-matters/factsheets/22.html

The reason AZT appears to work is of because it is a drug that hypermethylates DNA.

"Genome-wide DNA hypermethylation induced by 3'-azido-3'-deoxythymidine (AZT) has been suggested to be involved in the development of AZT resistance."
AZT-induced hypermethylation of human thymidine kinase gene in the absence of total DNA hypermethylation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...2&dopt=Abstract

"hypermethylation azt"
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=hy...ation+azt&meta=

This is why it was banned as a cancer drug in the 1960's because uncontrolled hypermethylation of all DNA is not desirable.
AZT causes cancer.

Transplacental effects of 3'-azido-2',3'-dideoxythymidine (AZT): tumorigenicity in mice and genotoxicity in mice and monkeys.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...8&dopt=Abstract

Cancer is characterised by global hypomethylation of DNA with some island hypermethylation of genes that often turn into cancer.
It's all about balance and diet can control these things.

AZT is toxic and is not the way to methylate, Selenium in the diet is much safer.

“Eight children had mitochondrial dysfunction. Five, of whom two died, presented with delayed neurological symptoms and three were symptom-free but had severe biological or neurological abnormalities. Four of these children had been exposed to combined zidovudine and lamivudine, and four to zidovudine alone. No child was infected with HIV-1.”
Persistent Mitochondrial Dysfunction and Perinatal Exposure to Antiretroviral Nucleoside Analogues
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...0&dopt=Citation

Poisoning Our Babies -- The Lethal Dangers of AZT
http://www.whatisaids.com/mothering/aztpoisoningbabies.htm#5

Whether you believe HIV causes AIDS or not, the treatments offered are terrible and women get in trouble with authorities to avoid them.

Children, Pediatric AIDS (PAIDS), AZT Fugitives
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index/kids.htm

"An Ontario mother has been convicted for hiding her HIV status, which denied doctors the chance to treat her baby and possibly prevent her newborn son from being infected — a case considered the first of its kind in Canada.

The mother of two pleaded guilty to failing to provide the necessaries of life. On April 6, Mr. Justice Anton Zuraw sentenced her to a six-month conditional sentence, followed by three years of probation, Hamilton-based assistant Crown attorney Karen Shea has confirmed."
Mother convicted of hiding HIV status for son's birth
Mothers Avoiding AZT
http://www.aras.ab.ca/articles/200608-Crowe-AZT.html

Things to think about.

Imagination
Would be interesting to see what the boys playing around with 'open source biology'
think about all this.
My curious interest for the last 25 years, leads me to believe that H.I.V. is a research tool, in efforts to prove out the Human Genome.
As we all know, the Immune System is the 'key' to everything.
Best I read on this was Dr. L. Horowitz book, D.N.A., Pirates of the Sacred Spiral.
Of course, the good Dr. and his comments are not looked upon too kindly by the community.
His best comment: "Your T-4 cells know everything outside of You".

Hmmmm. I remember Prof. Peter Duesberg of Berkley having his research funding negatively effected after claiming that H.I.V. was not a retro-virus.
I believe I also re-call that he helped discover the retro-virus.
I'll do a fact check on that last comment, but I'm certain someone here could correct me.
Star Sludge
I’d like to thank Physorg for being open minded and allowing this discussion.
I’ve been banned from another forum for talking about methylation, go on, have a chuckle.

On AZT, the lawyer Anthony Brink has documented a lot of awful information on the drug.
Treatment Information Group
http://www.tig.org.za/

This interview is well worth a look.

The story told to Advocate Brink by Professor Richard Beltz, the scientist who first synthesized AZT in 1961
http://www.tig.org.za/pdf-files/inventing_azt.pdf

The pregnant lady who unfortunately got caught up in the HIV net and chose to abort was told by me to eat Brazil Nuts to lower her viral load, this is because they are a food and a cheap way of getting Selenium in the form of Methionine.
She’s OK, shocked of course and trying to fix her liver up after being given a lot of drugs

“The proteins found in Brazil nuts are very high in sulfur-containing amino acids like cysteine (8%) and methionine (18%) and are also extremely rich in glutamine, glutamic acid, and arginine.”
A hard nut cracked: Brazil nuts’ selenium compounds identified
http://www.speciation.net/Public/News/2006...?PHPSESSID=363d

Methylation depends on a chemical called S-Adenosylmethionine
S-Adenosylmethionine and methylation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...6&dopt=Abstract

It stops hypomethylation and this can then control our retrotransposons or retroviruses and this also affects diseases like cancer.
This is why methylation is relevant to more than just controlling HIV.
The nutrients below are the main ones needed for methylation, not too much of course because as I said before some cells also hypermethylate in cancer. Balance again.

"When rats are chronically fed a diet devoid of a methyl-donor source (choline, methionine, folic acid, and vitamin B12), they spontaneously develop hepatocellular carcinomas (HCCs). This is a unique carcinogenesis model in which no known carcinogen is involved. After the initial discovery of this model, many questions were raised concerning its validity including the possibility of carcinogenic contaminants in the diet. Later, it was definitively demonstrated that diets lacking in methionine and choline and containing no detectable level of carcinogens acted as a complete carcinogen"
LINE-1 Hypomethylation in a Choline-Deficiency-Induced Liver Cancer in Rats
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...i?artid=1479888

“Hypomethylation of the repetitive sequences, such as L1, subtelomeric repeats, alphoid repeats and Alu, seem to constitute the major part of the ‘global hypomethylation’ of the genome in tumors. “
Hypomethylation of LINE1 Retrotransposon in Human Hepatocellular Carcinomas, but Not in Surrounding Liver Cirrhosis
http://jjco.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/30/7/306

And here a lack of methylation affects Line-1 and our retroviruses go up.
So it seems ridiculous but Brazil nuts can in theory keep our retroviruses in check.

“Consistent with these results, we find that relative L1 and HERV-W expression levels are elevated in representative samples of malignant vs. non-malignant ovarian tissues.”
L1 and HERV-W retrotransposons are hypomethylated in human ovarian carcinomas
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...gi?artid=411053

“L1 (LINE-1) elements constitute a large family of mammalian retrotransposons that have been replicating and evolving in mammals for more than 100 Myr and now compose 20% or more of the DNA of some mammals.”
L1 (LINE-1) Retrotransposon Evolution and Amplification in Recent Human History
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/17/6/915

Since the Viral load or HIV RT PCR test picks up reverse transcriptase (an enzyme used by our own retroviruses as well) then choline, methionine, folic acid, and vitamin B12 should make the viral load go down.

“L1 elements are highly repeated mammalian DNA sequences whose structure suggests dispersal by retrotransposition. A consensus L1 element encodes a protein with sequence similarity to known reverse transcriptases.”
Reverse transcriptase encoded by a human transposable element
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/254/5039/1808

This is all circular because exposure to toxins can deplete these nutrients and the retroviruses go up because of hypomethylation.

Activation of Human Long Interspersed Nuclear Element 1 Retrotransposition by Benzo(a)pyrene, an Ubiquitous Environmental Carcinogen
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/cont...tract/66/5/2616

I guess I have experience, I was exposed for 3 years at work to Phenol, a Benzene chemical plus Amine glues, they are a form of Nitrates and became quite ill, I’m not a big fan of Benzene as a result.
This was an interview I did with Dr. Mohammed Al Bayati who blames overuse of Corticosteroids on immune failure and causing AIDS.
This includes my take on the subject, I may be biased.

Benzene, Corticosteroids and AIDS
http://southafrica.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/10876.php

But he’s right, Hemophiliacs use Corticosteroids because they get allergic to Factor VIII blood clotting agent.

“Inhibitor antibodies directed against factor VIII or factor IX present challenges to the clinician. Fortunately, several management options are available, although each has disadvantages as well as advantages. Alloantibodies against factor VIII (which develop in 25 to 50% of children with severe hemophilia A, as well as in a small percentage of children with mild or moderate hemophilia A) may be low titer and transient or may be high titer.”
“Although some factor VIII autoantibodies disappear spontaneously, most require immunosuppression. Corticosteroids and cyclophosphamide are generally recommended.”
Inhibitor antibodies to factor VIII and factor IX : Management
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1444604

Hemophiliacs were already in trouble before HIV was discovered.

How about the Sexual Lubricants used by gays?
And everyone else....
They still have Benzene compounds in them.

“Parabens are the most widely used preservatives in cosmetic products, including personal lubricants. The most common parabens used are methylparaben, propylparaben, and butylparaben. Typically, more than one paraben is used in a product.”
Safety of Parabens in Personal Lubricants
http://sexuality.about.com/od/sextoybuying...bens_lubric.htm

And because of the estrogenic effect, parabens are a potential cause of cancer.

Parabens: evidence of estrogenicity and endocrine disruption
http://envirocancer.cornell.edu/Bibliograp...ib.parabens.cfm

The gay men are still also using Nitrates and no one is telling them they could be a danger.
This study was 1982, no one seems to have been interested in looking into their affects anymore after HIV was blamed for causing AIDS.

“The data suggest that nitrites may be immunosuppressive in the setting of repeated viral antigenic stimulation and may contribute to the high frequency of DS and opportunistic infections in homosexual men.”
Amyl nitrite may alter T lymphocytes in homosexual men.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...8&dopt=Abstract

And a mice study, so many mice give their lives to science so I’ll make sure it wasn’t in vain.

“Most changes in measured indices occurred in mice exposed at 300 ppm IBN and included decreased thymus weight (females); decreased liver weight (males); decreased white blood cell counts (males); mild focal hyperplasia and vacuolization of the epithelium lining bronchi and bronchioles of the lungs (males and females).”
Subchronic inhalation toxicity of isobutyl nitrite in BALB/c mice.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...st_uids=4057284

People using poppers would be breathing in more than 300ppm.
“included decreased thymus weight” can’t be good for T-cells can it?

I do this while I send off international freight, I’m sure many doctors and scientists in the biomedical industry want to raise contradictions with HIV science but I know they could lose jobs, careers and reputations.
So I’ll do it for them and hope someone notices.

I’m off for the weekend and can’t post until Monday so have a lovely weekend to everybody.
And how about the weather?
This time yesterday in Brisbane it was 31 with 70% humidity, today it’s 22 degrees centigrade and 22% humidity.
Strange world.
Star Sludge
It was snowing in Stanthorpe just south of Brisbane a couple of hours after my last post.
(:
The funny thing was that Al Gore was on Australian TV the night before talking up Global Warming.
My problem with Global Warming is that we should forget Carbon Dioxide for a minute and think about all the toxins we are choking on, Benzene, Sulphur Dioxide, Diesel particulates etc.
I just want some fresh air.

I should have also said in my last post “my friend ‘chose’ to abort because she was bullied to while she was worried about what the many drugs given may have done to her fetus”.

This piece of science was also printed in Nature a week and a half ago where French scientists digging around in Gorilla droppings in Africa decided to add two and two together and create the illusion that eating Gorillas is the reason for HIV spreading into humans.

“ONE more reason not to eat our close living relatives. Of the three strains of HIV known to infect humans, we know that two - the one causing the global AIDS epidemic and another that has infected a small number of people in Cameroon - came from a chimpanzee virus called SIV. The source of the third strain, which infects people in western central Africa, was a mystery. Now we know it came from gorillas.
Martine Peeters and colleagues at the University of Montpelier in France have discovered the virus in the droppings of gorillas living in remote forests in Cameroon (Nature, vol 444, p 164). The infected gorillas lived up to 400 kilometres apart, so the researchers think it must be a normal or endemic virus in the animals, as SIV is in chimps.”
Gorillas missing link in HIV mystery
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1922...iv-mystery.html

Now someone pointed out to me that this might stop the munching of Gorillas and I hope they are right.
But we’ve seen what panic over Bird Flu has done to millions of chickens so I’m not sure and knowing cows are rampant with Bovine Leukemia Virus doesn’t stop us getting hungry and ordering a burger.
This is the problem with this mode of retroviral thinking.
Are they really infectious or are we just picking up the normal retroviruses that were always in the genome of these animals and only have noticed now because we have some fancy new testing gear?
This is the same retrovirus SIV but here it’s turning up in Baboon placentas, go figure?

“Electron microscopic studies have revealed the presence of endogenous retroviral (ERV) particles in normal primate placental tissues. These particles have ultrastructural similarities to type C retroviral particles and are mainly associated with the trophoblast. In normal human placental tissues, they have antigenic similarity with exogenous retroviruses, such as the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), and may have a role to play in the regulation of cellular gene expression, syncytiotrophoblast formation or pregnancy-related immunosuppression.”
“The results of this study confirm the specific expression of retroviral cross-reactive antigens in normal baboon placental tissues and suggest placental cellular proteins may have antigenic similarity with those recognized by anti-HIV/SIV antibodies. The role of these retroviral-related proteins expressed at the maternal-fetal interface remain unclear.”
Characterization of antigens expressed in normal baboon trophoblast and cross-reactive with HIV/SIV antibodies.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...1&dopt=Abstract

And then if you look in the related studies beside that Pubmed study you find this one.

“We previously reported that monoclonal antibodies directed against HIV-1 envelope and gag proteins react with normal human villous trophoblast. The nature and/or potential function of these particles/proteins has not yet been fully defined. We previously reported that monoclonal antibodies directed against HIV-1 envelope and gag proteins react with normal human villous trophoblast. In this study, we report that extravillous trophoblast (EVT) from second- and third-trimester tissue are also cross-reactive with anti-HIV-1 gp120/160 and p17/18 antibodies.”
Expression of endogenous HIV-1 crossreactive antigens within normal human extravillous trophoblast cells.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...st_uids=7473433

So I may be wrong about the gp24 Transmembrane Unit in the HERV-W retrovirus cross-reacting with the P24 antigen of the HIV test but here we have in black and white other ‘HIV’ antigens in women’s placentas.

HERV-K
This is one of our most common retroviruses and this is the question I keep asking that puts the whole HIV paradigm into a spin.
How on earth do we know ‘HIV’ was ever transmitted and wasn’t one of our own retroviruses all the time?
This stuff is quite new and Robert Gallo who discovered ‘HIV’ didn’t have the best equipment to answer that question.
I think he eagerly jumped the gun.

Ideas and belief systems can change as rapidly as fashion.
I’m not sure about the Big Bang Theory after reading ‘The Cosmic Ecosystem’ by Alan Johnson, he just pointed out that red shift could due to light traveling a long way and not the stars moving away from us.
“I runno?”…..as Scooby Doo would say.
In 3 decades psych drugs went from Barbiturates to Tricyclics to SSRI’s.
Al Gore talks up Global Warming, in the ‘70’s an Ice Age was coming, I switch on the TV and see shows on Global Dimming….aaaagh, I’m confused, I just know I’ve got a doonah and blanket on my bed in mid November in here in Queensland, Australia when there would normally be only a sheet, mosquito net and sweating at night.
This global warming is pretty cool at the moment until the end of the week and I’ll be panting.

500 years ago witches and demons were blamed for most of our problems and it was also Theology Faculties in the Universities of the time that rubber-stamped ‘The Malleus Maleficarum’ for approval as a legal document to convict these ‘witches’ with.
It should be used as an example of how mad our scientists can become, it’s really ridiculous, a very long piece of woffle and caused a lot of suffering.
If we go back to the early ‘80’s and think about our belief systems they weren’t really fun.
I was a teenager in England expecting a 4minute warning and a nuclear war with Russia and I never expected to be writing this.
Many of my friends also didn’t expect to and I have a list of about six who ‘partied’ too much and died from Narcotics and another four who died rather violently from Alcohol abuse, who needs HIV/AIDS?
Gays had come out in force and with that coming out began a party with probably too much indulgence and all the dangers that go with it.
I’ve never written about sex when talking about HIV/AIDS, I’ve mentioned preservatives in sexual lubricants because they can be poisonous and get absorbed at higher doses when used internally.
There’s a difference between skin and the rectal lining.
Amyl Nitrate is toxic and it’s a sex aid.
But back in the ‘80’s it was a big party, now we have ‘Ice’ to keep the party going even longer.
There was a fundamentalist Christian government in power in America as there is now.
‘HIV’ fitted into their “told you so, too much sex is bad” way of thinking.
I’m brutally scientific about it and say “Yes, sex with drugs and dodgy lubricants can get too toxic”.
We are in my opinion highly evolved apes that are stressed out, often quite unhappy and could do with a lot of loving.
No sex becomes pathological at times.
And the reality is that everyone is potentially Bi.
Just messing with your heads, big smiles.
‘HIV’ just left my paradigm once I had discovered AZT and it’s effects.

So let’s mention HERV-K and ask could ‘HIV’ be just another strain of HERV that is barely different to HERV-K.
Here is an example that shows HERV-K RNA sequences in the blood of HIV-1 patients at a rate of 95%.

“Approximately 8% of the human genome sequence is composed by human endogenous retroviruses (HERVs), most of which are defective. HERV-K(HML-2) is the youngest and most active family and has maintained some proviruses with intact open reading frames (ORFs) that code for viral proteins that may assemble into viral particles. Many HERV-K(HML-2) sequences are polymorphic in humans (present in some individuals but not in others) and probably many others may be unfixed (not inserted permanently in a specific chromosomal location of the human genome). In the present study HIV-1 and HCV-1-positive plasma samples were screened for the presence of HERV-K(HML-2) RNA in an RT-PCR using HERV-K pol specific primers. HERV-K(HML-2) viral RNA sequences were found almost universally in HIV-1(+) plasma samples (95.33%) but were rarely detected in HCV-1 patients (5.2%) or control subjects (7.69%). Other HERV-K(HML-2) viral segments of the RNA genome including gag, prt, and both env regions, surface (su), and transmembrane ™ were amplified from HERV-K pol-positive plasma of HIV-1 patients. Type 1 and type 2 HERV-K(HML- 2) viral RNA genomes were found to coexist in the same plasma of HIV-1 patients. These results suggest the HERV-K(HML-2) viral particles are induced in HIV-1-infected individuals.
Detection of HERV-K(HML-2) viral RNA in plasma of HIV type 1-infected individuals.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...t_uids=17067267

We could then also blame HERV-K for AIDS and Cancer but why would HERV-K also turn up in skin, thyroid gland, placenta, and tissues of reproductive organs?

“Most active members of HERV families were found in mRNA prepared from skin, thyroid gland, placenta, and tissues of reproductive organs. In contrast, only few active HERVs were detectable in muscle cells. Human tissues that lack HERV transcription could not be found, confirming that human endogenous retroviruses are permanent components of the human transcriptome.”
“For example, some members of the HERV-K family encode retroviral enzymes with specific activities, such as protease, reverse transcriptase (RT), integrase, and nonstructural proteins with functional similarities to human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and human T-cell lymphotropic virus (HTLV) Rev and Rex proteins. Recently, a novel accessory gene, np9, that is located within the HERV-K env reading frame was found to be expressed in various human tumor tissues and transformed cell lines”
Comprehensive Analysis of Human Endogenous Retrovirus Transcriptional Activity in Human Tissues with a Retrovirus-Specific Microarray 2005
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...gi?artid=538696

When we medicate with protease inhibitors are we trying to stop HIV or HERV-K?
AZT and other anti-retrovirals are meant to stop Reverse Transcriptase, again are we trying to stop HIV or HERV-K?
And what do these drugs do to our skin, thyroid glands, placentas, and tissues of reproductive organs?

Reverse transcriptase activity from human embryonal carcinoma cells NTera2D1.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...st_uids=1698616

When we did the Human Genome Project I’m sure many in the genetic field with their penchant for a bit of genome purity and Eugenics thought the ‘crime’ genes and ‘gay’ genes would turn up and we could tidy up the genome and make society safe from the ‘undesirables’.
It’s not really like that though, sure there’s the possibility that some folk have the ‘testosterone’ gene and are a bit angrier than the other apes.
But a lot of crime is learnt, neglected and abused kids have realized if they are naughty they will get more attention, this is why you often see rich children grow into psychopaths.
They were in fact neglected and money didn’t stop that neglect.
The Human Genome Project opened a can of worms though and that was the fact that 40% of our genome is made of retrotransposons and 8% of that is our retroviruses.
So now there is a scramble to work out what this ‘Junk DNA’ does and how we can cash in on the new discovery?
I’m hoping it sends us in the right direction and I’m trying to steer a change in the course of history just by writing this.
And why not?

My ideas on the subject are like this.
If HERV-K turns up in AIDS, Cancer and all the autoimmune diseases then why?

“These data suggest that different HERV-K proviruses are transcribed in human teratocarcinoma cell lines.”
Phenotypic heterogeneity of human endogenous retrovirus particles produced by teratocarcinoma cell lines.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...t_uids=11172100

“Compared with controls, HERV-W and HERV-K expression was increased in brain tissue from patients with multiple sclerosis or human immunodeficiency virus infection or AIDS”
Monocyte activation and differentiation augment human endogenous retrovirus expression: implications for inflammatory brain diseases.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...4&dopt=Abstract

Why are HERV-W, HERV-K and HIV all turning up in inflammatory brain diseases?

HERV-W is also called Syncytin and they found it was involved in attaching the fetus to the placenta.

“Syncytin is a membrane protein derived from the envelope gene of an endogenous retrovirus of the HERV-W family. The gene appears to be almost exclusively expressed in placenta; the protein was found in particular in syncytiotrophoblast. After transfection into various cell types it has proven to be a very fusogenic protein, inducing the formation of syncytia. Therefore, the question rises as to whether syncytin is responsible for the fusion process of villous cytotrophoblast into syncytiotrophoblast in vivo. If so, how is this fusion process regulated if syncytin is found all over the syncytiotrophoblast?”
Syncytin: the major regulator of trophoblast fusion?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...t_uids=15333590

So our HERV’s also can’t be deadly if they turn up skin, thyroid glands, placentas, and tissues of reproductive organs.

Something else is going on, this is not an infection and I think Pasteur’s disciples have a bit to answer for here.
There’s more to ‘infection’ than just a bug that jumps on you and starts replicating.
You need to be prone to going down, this is why some get flu for a day and others can die.
So I believe if HERV’s are in normal tissue they are probably involved in cell division, mainly because they turn up in our Cancer cells too, I could be wrong, I don’t have a lab to check.

“These data suggest that HERV-W elements are actively expressed in human tissues and cancer cells. These active HERV-W elements deserve further investigation as potential causative agents of various human diseases including cancers.”
Expression of the human endogenous retrovirus HERV-W family in various human tissues and cancer cells
http://vir.sgmjournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/1203

The other possibility is they come out with cell breakdown.
You look at Cancer and Autoimmune diseases and there’s a common denominator.
Cancer cells release Metalloproteinase, an enzyme our cells use to dissolve collagen and also make new arteries, a bit like ripping up tarmac and putting new stuff down.
When you get Arthritis, Multiple Sclerosis, Psoriasis, Lupus and other Autoimmune diseases our white blood cells rush to areas of our body which our inflammatory cytokines or T-cells have tagged to be a battle zone.
They are the exactly the same disease but in different organs, my opinion.
Then the white blood cells release Nitric Oxide to burn the zone that has been tagged.
They are trying to dissolve something that shouldn’t be there, be it viral, bacterial, chemical or just a bit of pollen.
The enzyme Metalloproteinase also turns up in the data of Autoimmune diseases and of course our collagen is getting cooked.
Collagen is the stuff that holds us together.
Nerds should know of Linus Pauling, the double Nobel winner who’s chemistry Watson and Crick used to work out the DNA helix.
The story I describe is helical.
Most people still won’t know that in the early ‘90’s before Linus died he came up with a simple regimen of Lysine and Vitamin C to cure Heart Disease, which he saw as a Collagen deficiency problem.
http://www.paulingtherapy.com
The rascally Dr. Rath, his co-inventor of the idea, uses it to inhibit Metalloproteinase for keeping Cancer cells in check.
Natural Eradication of Cancer
http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/NHC/can...r_solutions.htm

Metalloproteinase inhibitors in drug forms are used for Cancer and there has been a lot of interest and a gold rush to make new ones in recent years.
Lysine and some lemon juice are cheaper.
Before 2001 my skin was fine, now I can watch in real time live action my immune system go into overdrive if it doesn’t like something and release these enzymes that can dissolve my skin so I use Linus Pauling’s therapy, it doesn’t hurt and I think it works.
Bouncers have asked me for ID twice this year and a bus driver asked if I wanted an adult fare, I didn’t know whether to be insulted or if that could be a complement? (I don’t look that young)
I’ll be 42 soon, of course all my chemical exposure and stress of discovering this could stuff me up in the years ahead but I think I’m on the road to healing.

These were the symptoms after working like a maniac with Phenol and Amine glues for 3 to 4 years, I found out only this year that the Solder Flux I used for the 4 years after escaping the glues also creates Phenol when heated.
They were rapid weight loss, night sweats, severe insomnia, lymph swelling, nausea, shakes and headaches.
This later led to my white blood cells rushing to my skin where thousands of pores filled with pus, my skin fell off, I had lesions, fevers, chills and was later told I could have gone into a coma.
It was really a massive allergy attack because Prednilisone didn’t work but another Cortisone did later and I was at least stabilized in less that a week.
The hospital staff wanted to give me a bed for 3 days, this doesn’t happen here in Queensland unless you’re really sick, I just went home and put on the cream with a big thank you.
It was diagnosed Pustular Psoriasis but photos I had of myself at the time showed I had googly eyes as in possible Grave’s disease, an autoimmune hyperthyroid drama, the doctors didn’t notice, nether did I until later.
So I can’t help but ask questions like “what are all these HERV’s doing in my skin?”.

“METHODS: HERV expression was analysed at the mRNA level after degenerated reverse transcription-polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) of retroviral pol sequences followed by sequencing. Screening for a specific variant was performed by RT-PCR on lesional and nonlesional psoriatic skin and compared with normal and atopic dermatitis skin. RESULTS: We report the expression of three HERV families in psoriatic lesions, namely HERV-W, K and E.”
A new endogenous retroviral sequence is expressed in skin of patients with psoriasis
http://skinrashes.researchtoday.net/archive/2/7/468.htm

I found out from this website that Copper deficiency can cause hyperthyroid and because Brazil nuts have a fair bit of Copper they went into my diet.

“Thyroid and immune system health are crucially dependent upon copper. As far as I can see now, copper deficiency is the most important factor in the development of hyperthyroidism. Virtually all hypers in the hyperthyroidism group have found that copper supplementation reduced their symptoms, usually within hours or a few days at most.”
Copper and Hyperthyroidism
http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

So I munch 4 or 5 Brazil nuts in my muesli each day to patch up damage, eat cashews in stirfrys, etc.
Brazil nuts also have a lot of Selenium so I don’t know if it was the Copper or Selenium that helped?
I did get better though and symptoms that went were immediate cessation of rashes coming out near my lower neck, night sweats were no more, I now don’t have asthma.
My skin was and still is a bit damaged and doesn’t like the modern world.
This is about Selenium and DNA damage.

“In human tissues, it has been estimated that each cell sustains approximately 10 000 potentially mutagenic (if not repaired) lesions per day due to endogenous DNA damage. Almost no studies have addressed the potential for selenium compounds to induce DNA repair, a potential mechanism for their cancer-preventive actions. We show that selenium in the form of selenomethionine induces a DNA repair response in normal human fibroblasts in vitro, and protects cells from DNA damage.”
Selenomethionine induction of DNA repair response in human fibroblasts.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...4&dopt=Abstract

The googly eyes got my brain ticking over about the possibility I had Hyperthyroid Autoimmune dramas, I use past tense because I the symptoms were gone by the time I thought about it.
All the other symptoms were similar to Grave’s Hyperthyroid Disease, they are also very similar to Lupus, an Autoimmune liver disease some alcoholics and drug addicts can get.
Remember I believe all the Autoimmune diseases have the same cause but they just occur in different organs, my skin went because it was saturated with Phenol.
And Autoimmune disease and Allergies coincide, my opinion.
So Selenium is also vital for Thyroid function.

“Several minerals and trace elements are essential for normal thyroid hormone metabolism, e.g., iodine, iron, selenium, and zinc. Coexisting deficiencies of these elements can impair thyroid function. Iron deficiency impairs thyroid hormone synthesis by reducing activity of heme-dependent thyroid peroxidase. Iron-deficiency anemia blunts and iron supplementation improves the efficacy of iodine supplementation. Combined selenium and iodine deficiency leads to myxedematous cretinism. The normal thyroid gland retains high selenium concentrations even under conditions of inadequate selenium supply and expresses many of the known selenocysteine-containing proteins. Among these selenoproteins are the glutathione peroxidase, deiodinase, and thioredoxine reductase families of enzymes. Adequate selenium nutrition supports efficient thyroid hormone synthesis and metabolism and protects the thyroid gland from damage by excessive iodide exposure. In regions of combined severe iodine and selenium deficiency, normalization of iodine supply is mandatory before initiation of selenium supplementation in order to prevent hypothyroidism. Selenium deficiency and disturbed thyroid hormone economy may develop under conditions of special dietary regimens such as long-term total parenteral nutrition, phenylketonuria diet, cystic fibrosis, or may be the result of imbalanced nutrition in children, elderly people, or sick patients.”
The impact of iron and selenium deficiencies on iodine and thyroid metabolism: biochemistry and relevance to public health.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...9&dopt=Abstract

AIDS IN AFRICA AND IODIZED SALT
To start with there’s TB and Malaria that can kill you in six months or less, then there are all the infections associated with dirty water, no sewage, no refrigerators and old and moldy food.
Add in starvation with pollution and that’s enough trouble.
The responsible pregnant African mums are also lining up at the HIV testing centers where the test could very likely pick up those evil retroviruses going rampant in their placentas.

Well I have another take on AIDS in Africa and that’s the introduction of Iodized salt.
I don’t know if anyone has noticed this, there’s one lone nutritionist in India called Ashok Jaisinghani that I found on the net one day, at a first look he looks crazy but he may be quite right.

“Ever since iodized salt has been introduced for consumption in food in India, the cases of AIDS have increased by leaps and bounds in our country. Excessive intake of IODINE is one of the main causes of AIDS in human beings. Iodized salt has caused AIDS in millions of susceptible people in India, and elsewhere, leading to their early deaths.”
Iodized Salt Causes AIDS (hang it’s fascist promoters)
http://wonder-cures.com/art2.htm

I’m chuckling at the “hang it’s fascist promoters”.

I’ll quote this again.

“Adequate selenium nutrition supports efficient thyroid hormone synthesis and metabolism and protects the thyroid gland from damage by excessive iodide exposure.”

It’s not that Iodine is bad, we do need it to stop Goiter and Cretinism but if we are selling Iodized salt to people who don’t eat much and have low Selenium in the diet we’re causing a new disease.
So here are a couple of studies that shows what can happen, one from China and one from Africa.

“The average annual incidence of hyperthyroidism after iodine supplementation was 36.87 per 100,000, a three-time increase as compared with that before iodine supplementation. The incidence of hyperthyroidism began to show a significant rise in 1996. The year with highest annual incidence was 1997, remaining at high level after supplying iodized salt. Since then the annual relative risk for hyperthyroidism had been increasing. CONCLUSION: The number of patients with thyroid diseases showed a significant increase after mass iodine supplement.”
Study on the effects of increased iodized salt intake on the incidence of thyroid diseases
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...4&dopt=Abstract

“Biochemical signs of hyperthyroidism, or even overt and possibly lethal clinical hyperthyroidism were reported in 2 severely iodine-deficient African countries (Zimbabwe and Democratic Republic of Congo, RDC) soon after the introduction of iodized salt.”
Risks of iodine-induced hyperthyroidism after correction of iodine deficiency by iodized salt.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...6&dopt=Abstract

Hyperthyroid Autoimmune Diseases have a quite a high probability of cross-reaction with the HIV antibody test and the HERV’s will go up and the viral load test will pick that up.
I’d better show some studies again to prove this, Sjogren's syndrome and Grave’s disease are different forms of Hyperthyroid Autoimmune Disease.

“The first set of experiments performed on four patients with Sjogren's syndrome (SjS) and four patients with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) revealed a significant anti-gp120 antibody reactivity in autoimmune patients when compared to healthy HIV-negative controls.”
“A significant anti-p24 reactivity was observed in 18 of 29 sera from SjS patients and in 13 of 25 sera from SLE patients”
Epitope specificity of anti-HIV antibodies in human and murine autoimmune diseases.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...4&dopt=Abstract

“RESULTS: Sera from five of 15 patients with Sjogren's syndrome (33%) reacted against p24 group specific antigen (gag) of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). Labial salivary gland biopsy specimens from seven of the 15 patients with Sjogren's syndrome (47%) contained an epithelial cytoplasmic protein reactive with a monoclonal antibody to p24 of HIV.”
Retrovirus in salivary glands from patients with Sjogren's syndrome.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...3&dopt=Abstract

“We previously reported that 30% of SS patients and 36% of systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) patients have serum antibodies to the p24 gag protein of HIV-1.”
“The p24 gag protein shares a proline-rich epitope with the Sm nucleoprotein to which many SLE patients have antibodies.”
Are endogenous retroviruses involved in human autoimmune disease?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...8&dopt=Abstract

“On Southern blotting of DNA extracted from thyroid glands of five patients with Graves' disease, two probes (720 bp and 942 bp) for gag human immunodeficiency virus type 1 (HIV-1) gave a positive hybridisation signal in all samples tested.”
Retrovirus-like sequences in Graves' disease: implications for human autoimmunity.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...9&dopt=Abstract

Or there can be Grave’s disease in AIDS patients.

Sequential Occurrence of Thyroid Autoantibodies and Graves’ Disease after Immune Restoration in Severely Immunocompromised Human Immunodeficiency Virus-1-Infected Patients
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/11/4254

So here’s a list of hyperthyroid symptoms.

“Symptoms of hyperthyroidism, regardless of the cause, reflect the speeding up of body functions: increased heart rate and blood pressure, abnormal heart rhythms (arrhythmias), excessive sweating, hand tremors (shakiness), nervousness and anxiety, difficulty sleeping (insomnia), weight loss despite increased appetite, increased activity level despite fatigue and weakness, and frequent bowel movements, occasionally with diarrhea.”
Hyperthyroidism
http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec13/ch163/ch163b.html

And these are a list of HIV/AIDS symptoms.

“However, fever, rashes, swollen lymph nodes, fatigue, and a variety of less common symptoms may develop within a few weeks of HIV infection and last a few weeks.”
Fever, rashes and swollen lymph nodes can be just autoimmune symptoms because the immune system is in overdrive.
I even called it an ‘autoimmune flu’ and people just turn up to a clinic when they have symptoms and hence take a HIV test.

“These symptoms include swollen lymph nodes, weight loss, fatigue, recurring fever or diarrhea, anemia, and thrush (a fungal infection of the mouth).”
Anemia can be copper deficiency and copper deficiency lowers white blood cells and encourages bacterial infection because bacteria live off excess iron in the gut, a lack of copper can cause diarrhea.

“HIV can also directly infect the brain, causing memory loss, weakness, difficulty walking, and difficulty in thinking and concentrating (dementia).”
The problem with these symptoms is they are the same as MS and you can get encephalitis just from Herpes.

“In some people, HIV is probably directly responsible for AIDS wasting, which is a significant loss of weight with or without an obvious cause.”
These are hyperthyroid symptoms.

“Kaposi's sarcoma, a cancer that appears as painless, red to purple, raised patches on the skin, affects many people with AIDS, especially homosexual men.”
Kaposi’s seems to occur in Nitrate users and coincides with Herpes infections that can then degrade collagen and allow cancers to happen.

“Cancers of the immune system (lymphomas, typically non-Hodgkin's lymphoma) may develop, sometimes first appearing in the brain, where they can cause confusion, personality changes, and memory loss. Women are prone to developing cancer of the cervix. Homosexual men are prone to developing cancer of the rectum.”
AZT and other AIDS drugs, Sexual Lubricants and the Wart Virus can cause these cancers.

Symptoms
Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection
http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec17/ch199/ch19...h199-ch199a-952

“Night sweats occur very frequently in people living with HIV.”
Night Sweats...Facts and Solutions
http://aids.about.com/od/otherconditions/a/nightsweats.htm
Night sweats are another Hyperthyroid symptom.

So do we really know what causes AIDS or not?
And do we know what sort of retrovirus HIV really is?

On top of that there is the possibility of Selenium deficiency exacerbating other real viral infections.

“In April, the scientists reported discovering that inadequate intake of selenium boosts damage caused by influenza viruses.
"We believe our latest findings are both important and potentially disturbing because they suggest nutritional deficiencies can promote epidemics in a way not appreciated before," Beck said. "Here we looked at flu virus because it hospitalizes more than 100,000 people each year in the United States alone. But what we found conceivably could be true for any RNA virus -- cold virus, AIDS virus and Ebola virus."
She and Nelson worked with colleagues at the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Nestle Research Center in Switzerland. They fed groups of mice either selenium-deficient or normal diets. Later, they exposed both groups to a mild strain of human influenza virus known as Influenza A Bangkok. Rodents consuming too little selenium developed significantly more harmful lung inflammation, which also lasted considerably longer, than animals that developed the flu but whose diets were normal. The difference between the mice's illnesses was the difference between mild pneumonia and severe pneumonia, which can be life-threatening, they said.”
Selenium Deficiency Causes Flu Virus To Mutate
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/...10608081506.htm

This is all helical, I’ve been circling and circling outside the square every else’s heads reside in.
I’ve watched ‘HIV’ tagged people in despair tell me their woes via my email box, I became sick as well (in fact the HIV positives emailing me are often not sick) and I had become ill while trying to study microbiology part-time at university.
So I wondered what was happening to me while the new studies appeared in my Google search.
By censoring so called ‘AIDS dissidents’ we sent ourselves paddling up the wrong creek.
The retro-virologist Peter Duesberg should have had his right of reply in Nature, the debate he could have started may have prevented all of this muddle.
As for me this became quite a burden when I realized I could type in ‘AIDS Methylation’ and come up a few times on the front page.
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=ai...nG=Search&meta=

I’m the one suggesting ‘The AIDS Retrovirus Expression Is Regulated by Methylation’ and The Free Information Society banned me for talking about it and they give me the message “You have been banned from this forum.”
This Physorg.com link comes up, so you folk are cool.
I so want everyone else to pick up on this and talk about it.
I don’t get paid for this and thinking about it by myself is a bit tiring, I mostly want some good sleep and to sing some songs and forget about how I got here.
So if you can help me out then just show your friends this link and pass it on because it is important.
And thanks again to Physorg.
Star Sludge
I just want to do the last nerdy stuff here to make us all think?
This study looks confusing at first.
Why were the brains of these poor dead HIV folk methylated?

“Experimental models of vitamin B[12] deficient-neuropathy are characterized by central nervous system protein hypomethylation. The encephalitis/vacuolar myelopathy complicating HIV infection and subacute combined degeneration of the cord due to vitamin B[12] deficiency share similar biochemical and pathological abnormalities. Altered central nervous system methylation may be important in the pathogenesis of HIV encephalitis. To test this hypothesis we compared brain protein methylation of HIV-positive, and control, subjects. Materials and methods - Carboxymethyltransferase activity was assayed in postmortem cortical brain samples obtained from 16 control patients (9 males); mean age (59 ± 5.1 years, range 21-87 years), 9 HIV-positive patients (7 males, 6 IVDA, 3 homosexual, 4 with HIV encephalitis, mean age 37, range 23-45), and 3 patients with Alzheimer's disease (mean age 78 years). Results - The amount of radiolabelled SAM (S-adenosylmethionine) incorporated into carboxymethyl, and N-methylation sites within brain proteins from cortical white matter in vitro was significantly lower (P<0.05) in the HIV + group vs controls. Carboxymethyltransferase activity was similar in the HIV-infected brains irrespective of the presence or absence of HIV encephalitis. Mean cortical methyl group incorporation was also lower in the Alzheimer's disease group compared to controls. Conclusion - The observation of reduced in vitro methylation of brain proteins from patients with HIV infection and Alzheimer's disease suggests that fewer unmethylated sites exist due to relative protein hypermethylation in vivo. The absence of hypomethylation in the brains of patients with HIV encephalitis suggests that hypomethylation is not necessary for the development of HIV encephalitis.”
Methylation of cortical brain proteins from patients with HIV infection
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1951751

Does this make sense?
If there is lower SAM (S-adenosylmethionine) then there should be hypomethylation.

“The amount of radiolabelled SAM (S-adenosylmethionine) incorporated into carboxymethyl, and N-methylation sites within brain proteins from cortical white matter in vitro was significantly lower (P<0.05) in the HIV + group vs controls.”

But if the AIDS patients were on AZT (very likely) their brain matter would be methylated.
“azt hypermethylation”
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&sa=X...ylation&spell=1

Which makes sense of this…..

“The absence of hypomethylation in the brains of patients with HIV encephalitis suggests that hypomethylation is not necessary for the development of HIV encephalitis.”

So on another subject….the other diseases and hypomethylation.

“The vitamins folic acid, B12 and B6 and B2 are the source of coenzymes which participate in one carbon metabolism. In this metabolism, a carbon unit from serine or glycine is transferred to tetrahydrofolate (THF) to form methylene-THF. This is either used as such for the synthesis of thymidine, which is incorporated into DNA, oxidized to formyl-THF which is used for the synthesis of purines, which are building blocks of RNA and DNA, or it is reduced to methyl-THF which used to methylate homocysteine to form methionine, a reaction which is catalyzed by a B12-containing methyltransferase. Much of the methionine which is formed is converted to S-adenosylmethionine (SAM), a universal donor of methyl groups, including DNA, RNA, hormones, neurotransmitters, membrane lipids, proteins and others. Because of these functions, interest in recent years has been growing particularly in the area of aging and the possibility that certain diseases that afflict the aging population, loss of cognitive function, Alzheimer's disease, cardiovascular disease, cancer and others, may be in part explained by inadequate intake or inadequate status of these vitamins. Homocysteine, a product of methionine metabolism as well as a precursor of methionine synthesis, was shown recently to be a risk factor for cardiovascular disease, stroke and thrombosis when its concentration in plasma is slightly elevated. There are now data which show association between elevated plasma homocysteine levels and loss of neurocognitive function and Alzheimer's disease. These associations could be due to a neurotoxic effect of homocysteine or to decreased availability of SAM which results in hypomethylation in the brain tissue. Hypomethylation is also thought to exacerbate depressive tendency in people, and for (colorectal) cancer DNA hypomethylation is thought to be the link between the observed relationship between inadequate folate status and cancer.”
Folate, vitamin B12 and vitamin B6 and one carbon metabolism
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=13462840

So my question is how many diseases will be helped by the vitamins folic acid, B12, and B6 and B2 plus Glutathione, a Selenium compound?

“One of the most consistent findings in cancer cells is an overall decrease of 5-methylcytosine content in DNA. The causes that lead to this alteration are not known. We have shown in a recent study that the methyl-donor, methionine (Met), can easily be depleted and that 0- and S-methylation can be impaired in response to glutathione (GSH) depletion. This is because mammalian cells are capable of resynthesizing GSH after GSH is depleted, and GSH turnover occurs at the expense of Met. An extensive utilization of Met for the resynthesis of GSH causes Met depletion and impairment in methylation. In the present study we now demonstrate that GSH depletion has a significant impact on DNA methylation.”
“The results provide strong evidence that GSH-depleting agents significantly impair cytosine methylation. Thus, alterations in gene expression could result from a high dose and/or prolonged exposure to GSH-depleting agents, e.g. medications, chemotherapeutic agents and environmental toxins.”
Alterations of DNA methylation by glutathione depletion
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2268579

“Glutathione (GSH), a cysteine-containing tripeptide, is essential for the viability and function of virtually all cells. In vitro studies showing that low GSH levels both promote HIV expression and impair T cell function suggested a link between GSH depletion and HIV disease progression.”
Glutathione deficiency is associated with impaired survival in HIV disease
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/94/5/1967

Back to the HIV patients with nervous system damage.

“The methylation and transsulfuration pathways are intimately linked and have been implicated in the progression of neurologic damage and immune cell depletion caused by human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection. We studied the following metabolites related to these pathways : S-adenosylmethionine (SAMe), homocysteine, cysteine, cysteinyl-glycine, and glutathione (GSH) in blood and CSF of 16 HIV-infected patients with neurologic complications and 20 HIV-negative control patients undergoing lumbar punctures for other medical reasons. We confirmed recent studies of decreased CSF SAMe concentrations in HIV infection and demonstrated that diastereomers of SAMe are present in CSF but not in plasma or erythrocytes from both HIV-infected and HIV-negative patients. In HIV-infected patients, CSF GSH and cysteinyl-glycine, but not homocysteine or cysteine, were significantly reduced. This is the first report of decreased CSF GSH induced by HIV infection. GSH has a regulatory effect on the synthesis of SAMe in hepatic tissue, and the same mechanism may also apply in the CNS. Administration of SAMe-butanedisulphonate, 800 mg/d intravenously for 14 days, was associated with significant increases in CSF SAMe and GSH. These findings have potentially important therapeutic implications for the use of SAMe in protecting against SAMe and GSH deficiency in the CNS of HIV-infected patients.”
Cerebrospinal fluid S-adenosylmethionine (SAMe) and glutathione concentrations in HIV infection : effect of parenteral treatment with SAMe
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=3671134

And this is why Dr. Harold Foster’s treatment for AIDS will work.

“Selenium, a mineral typically only needed in very small amounts for maintaining good health, is found in foods like Brazil nuts, shrimp, and whole wheat, among others. The RDA of selenium is fifty-five micrograms, but, because plasma selenium concentrations are very low, some researchers contend that it is essential to replenish selenium with high doses, particularly in people with advanced HIV infections.
According to Foster, people with advanced AIDS have both highly depleted selenium and plasma stores, and reduced CD4 cell counts. Foster says a reduction in selenium levels triggers a reduction in CD4 cells, which then causes a worsening reduction of serum selenium—“the selenium CD4 T-cell tailspin.” The codiscoverer of HIV, Professor Luc Montagnier also points out that AIDS is characterized by persistent oxidative imbalance and decrease of glutathione. Changes in biochemistry cause oxidative stress and damage to cells and tissues, and antioxidants (like selenium) are believed to be useful in inhibiting viral replication in HIV/AIDS.

We also know that selenium is used by the body after it is incorporated into proteins, called selenoproteins. Not only is selenium known to have excellent antioxidant properties, but it is also known to help regulate thyroid function and promote a healthy immune system. Disease and outright selenium deficiency has been linked for some time, but now some researchers are suggesting that even people without this overt deficiency may still be deficient enough to cause greater susceptibility to disease.

Foods (as well as humans) get their selenium from the soil, and people who live in areas with higher selenium-containing soil also have higher levels of selenium. In fact, the high plains of northern Nebraska and the Dakotas are known to generally have very high selenium levels and, supposedly because of this, people in those regions have the highest selenium intakes in the U.S. This phenomenon has been noticed in China, where selenium-deficient regions are known as the “disease belt,” as well as around the globe. With a daily intake of less than ten micrograms of selenium, viral diseases in these areas such as coxsackie B3, hepatitis B and C, and HIV/AIDS are all increasing. This geographical link has been noticed between areas of selenium-deficient soils and peak incidences of HIV/AIDS infection across the world. In Africa, the lowest numbers of AIDS prevalence was found in Senegal, which also happens to be a country with high levels of selenium-enriched soil. Senegal also has one of the lowest levels of cancer on the African continent.

In a field trial in Botswana, Foster claims that the supplementation of selenium and amino acids is causing the reversal of AIDS in ninety-nine percent of patients, usually within three weeks. Foster uses a protocol of four nutrients—selenium, cysteine, glutamine and tryptophan—and claims that this treatment of HIV/AIDS is similar to “curing” type-1 diabetes with insulin. Much more research is needed before selenium becomes a widespread and recognized clinical treatment, but in the meantime keep your eye on the mounting clinical trials that are showing promise.
Researchers Study the Positive Effects of Selenium on Those Living with HIV/AIDS
http://www.aumag.org/lifeguide/WWJuly06.html

Take care of yourselves.
CU’s Cal
Imagination
QUOTE (Imagination+Nov 15 2006, 05:56 PM)
Would be interesting to see what the boys playing around with 'open source biology'
think about all this.
My curious interest for the last 25 years, leads me to believe that H.I.V. is a research tool, in efforts to prove out the Human Genome.
As we all know, the Immune System is the 'key' to everything.
Best I read on this was Dr. L. Horowitz book, D.N.A., Pirates of the Sacred Spiral.
Of course, the good Dr. and his comments are not looked upon too kindly by the community.
His best comment: "Your T-4 cells know everything outside of You".

Hmmmm. I remember Prof. Peter Duesberg of Berkley having his research funding negatively effected after claiming that H.I.V. was not a retro-virus.
I believe I also re-call that he helped discover the retro-virus.
I'll do a fact check on that last comment, but I'm certain someone here could correct me.

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index/pduesberg.htm

That was the link I was looking for.

I don't know what the topic starter is trying to prove, but he knows the math just doesn't bear itself out from its original projections,, and H.I.V. has a curious way of seeking out marginalized sections of society, and people socializing in manners that
strict religious fundamentalists consider 'deserving' of their consequences.
Hence, perfect scapegoats for the investigations into 'open source biology' which truly is a path strewn with hells you don't want to be visiting.

They really do know how to 'shut down' your immune response in order to hack into the open source. Think about the consequences when the technology is in the hands of people who think...."hey, we can social engineer, and no one will be the wiser".

Thats right, they can tailor make a 'bug' to eliminate whoever they wish, and keep it restricted to a tight circle of targeted population.
And its the perfect weapon, because they have you believing its of your own doing.

*note: did topic starter even direct anyone to investigate 'open source biology'?
Star Sludge
Hi Imagination, I'm obviously a nerd on Methylation.
You should put some links in about "open source biology" as I'm curious.
I've been in Pubmed searches the last week.
Ta
Star Sludge
I guess this is "open source biology" though a bit left of field.

I'm saying that HIV/HERV-K/HERV-W retroviruses have always been a part of our genome for millions of years and we haven't noticed.

When people get ill their DNA hypomethylates and this is how HIV and our retroviruses come out.

Only recently have we come up with the machines that pick this up so presumed these things were infectious when they were not.

And since Methylation is a dietary thing we can cure ourselves.
Is that open source?

I'm away for a few days.
(:
Imagination
QUOTE (Star Sludge+Nov 24 2006, 06:07 AM)
Hi Imagination, I'm obviously a nerd on Methylation.
You should put some links in about "open source biology" as I'm curious.
I've been in Pubmed searches the last week.
Ta

I'm sorry if I came across aggravated.

I've a paticular issue with 'integration of species', and other strange items surrounding the technology associated with 'open source'.

I'm only a conspiracy theorist with a laser eye for certain things.

In fact, I'm certain you have the kind of background necessary to prove my contentions in the lower forums about the immuno-logical nature of living integrated systems such as our solar set, galaxies, etc.

Do you have a micro-biology background, or genetics?

If you do, please jump on my thread, and try to make some sense to the others of my comments.
An astro-physicist would be a most welcome addition too.

Mankind and this planet is about to meet their destiny, we caused this, we have become our own destroyer.
We can stop it from happening too, but we must act now.
tikay
QUOTE (Star Sludge+Nov 19 2006, 10:28 PM)



"We believe our latest findings are both important and potentially disturbing because they suggest nutritional deficiencies can promote epidemics in a way not appreciated before," Beck said. "Here we looked at flu virus because it hospitalizes more than 100,000 people each year in the United States alone. But what we found conceivably could be true for any RNA virus -- cold virus, AIDS virus and Ebola virus."
She and Nelson worked with colleagues at the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Nestle Research Center in Switzerland. They fed groups of mice either selenium-deficient or normal diets. Later, they exposed both groups to a mild strain of human influenza virus known as Influenza A Bangkok. Rodents consuming too little selenium developed significantly more harmful lung inflammation, which also lasted considerably longer, than animals that developed the flu but whose diets were normal. The difference between the mice's illnesses was the difference between mild pneumonia and severe pneumonia, which can be life-threatening, they said.”
Selenium Deficiency Causes Flu Virus To Mutate
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/...10608081506.htm

This is all helical, I’ve been circling and circling outside the square every else’s heads reside in.
I’ve watched ‘HIV’ tagged people in despair tell me their woes via my email box, I became sick as well (in fact the HIV positives emailing me are often not sick) and I had become ill while trying to study microbiology part-time at university.
So I wondered what was happening to me while the new studies appeared in my Google search.
By censoring so called ‘AIDS dissidents’ we sent ourselves paddling up the wrong creek.
The retro-virologist Peter Duesberg should have had his right of reply in Nature, the debate he could have started may have prevented all of this muddle.
As for me this became quite a burden when I realized I could type in ‘AIDS Methylation’ and come up a few times on the front page.
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=ai...nG=Search&meta=

I’m the one suggesting ‘The AIDS Retrovirus Expression Is Regulated by Methylation’ and The Free Information Society banned me for talking about it and they give me the message “You have been banned from this forum.”
This Physorg.com link comes up, so you folk are cool.
I so want everyone else to pick up on this and talk about it.
I don’t get paid for this and thinking about it by myself is a bit tiring, I mostly want some good sleep and to sing some songs and forget about how I got here.
So if you can help me out then just show your friends this link and pass it on because it is important.
And thanks again to Physorg.

Thanks for your time spent doing this post.
I was unable to understand some of it, being a layperson, but the gist was very well received, on my part.you appear to be a great thinker.
Peace.


Star Sludge
Hi Tikay and Imagination, It's alright if some is a little hard to understand, as far as I can tell I'm one of the very few people talking about it and certainly with the extra details you won't find it elsewhere.
Got it off my chest anyway.
I tried biology at university part-time but couldn't get to classes so I may be left of field.

It took me the weekend to ponder over what 'open source biology' had to do with HIV but if you believe HIV was lab made then I understand.
I guess my point is that even if HIV was a man made retrovirus then methylation stops it. I still think it's endogenous.
Open source biology sounds scary, it looks like an arrogant excuse to do anything with living things that comes to mind, chimeras would be the result.
It really seems like anarchy playing games with genes if I understood the 'movement' in the right way?

This is my summary of the methylation concept because if I put it this way it may make sense of why minority groups seem to be HIV infected.

Low methylation causes our retroviruses to come out and the HIV tests pick this up.

This is meant to happen in pregnancy and the cells de-methylate and methylate over and over again as the fetus forms. Hence we find retroviruses in the placenta.
They mostly test pregnant women in Africa for HIV and extrapolate the stats.

On top of this poor people don't eat well and have less of the nutrients to make methylation happen.
This is why Third World people or blacks in America seem to have HIV/AIDS.
Drug users deplete their bodies of the essential nutrients and seem to have HIV/AIDS.

This quote again.

"The results provide strong evidence that GSH-depleting agents significantly impair cytosine methylation. Thus, alterations in gene expression could result from a high dose and/or prolonged exposure to GSH-depleting agents, e.g. medications, chemotherapeutic agents and environmental toxins."
Alterations of DNA methylation by glutathione depletion
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2268579

This is why prostitutes in Africa seem to be immune from HIV/AIDS.
They earn enough to eat properly and so they eat enough Glutathione in their diet.
If prostitutes use drugs they seem to have HIV/AIDS like the other drug users who deplete their nutrients needed for methylation.
It's a massive stuff up and hypomethylation suddenly makes sense of HIV epidemics in poor African mums, starving people, gays using drugs and other drug users.
And up until now they have been mostly testing gays, drug users and Third World people so that's where the 'testing epidemic' has occurred.

Sick people simply have low DNA methylation and high 'retroviral loads.'

Have to come back and look at your stuff, think I've said enough now.
And have a good day too.
Imagination
QUOTE (Star Sludge+Nov 28 2006, 05:32 AM)
Hi Tikay and Imagination, It's alright if some is a little hard to understand, as far as I can tell I'm one of the very few people talking about it and certainly with the extra details you won't find it elsewhere.
Got it off my chest anyway.


I tried biology at university part-time but couldn't get to classes so I may be left of field.

It took me the weekend to ponder over what 'open source biology' had to do with HIV but if you believe HIV was lab made then I understand.
I guess my point is that even if HIV was a man made retrovirus then methylation stops it. I still think it's endogenous.
Open source biology sounds scary, it looks like an arrogant excuse to do anything with living things that comes to mind, chimeras would be the result.
It really seems like anarchy playing games with genes if I understood the 'movement' in the right way?

This is my summary of the methylation concept because if I put it this way it may make sense of why minority groups seem to be HIV infected.

Low methylation causes our retroviruses to come out and the HIV tests pick this up.

This is meant to happen in pregnancy and the cells de-methylate and methylate over and over again as the fetus forms. Hence we find retroviruses in the placenta.
They mostly test pregnant women in Africa for HIV and extrapolate the stats.

On top of this poor people don't eat well and have less of the nutrients to make methylation happen.
This is why Third World people or blacks in America seem to have HIV/AIDS.
Drug users deplete their bodies of the essential nutrients and seem to have HIV/AIDS.

This quote again.

"The results provide strong evidence that GSH-depleting agents significantly impair cytosine methylation. Thus, alterations in gene expression could result from a high dose and/or prolonged exposure to GSH-depleting agents, e.g. medications, chemotherapeutic agents and environmental toxins."
Alterations of DNA methylation by glutathione depletion
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2268579

This is why prostitutes in Africa seem to be immune from HIV/AIDS.
They earn enough to eat properly and so they eat enough Glutathione in their diet.
If prostitutes use drugs they seem to have HIV/AIDS like the other drug users who deplete their nutrients needed for methylation.
It's a massive stuff up and hypomethylation suddenly makes sense of HIV epidemics in poor African mums, starving people, gays using drugs and other drug users.
And up until now they have been mostly testing gays, drug users and Third World people so that's where the 'testing epidemic' has occurred.

Sick people simply have low DNA methylation and high 'retroviral loads.'

Have to come back and look at your stuff, think I've said enough now.
And have a good day too.

You just indicated that you really don't know it as much as your writing attempts to explain it in 'exact' terms of the popular myth which surrounds it.

How could possibly not have been familiar with 'O.S.B.'??

People are scapegoated all the time for research science, especially on the unknowing, the marginalized sectors of society, peoples of third world nations, and one or two other areas.
In fact, our own soldier sign away their 'Right' not to be experimented on. But they do sign them away, and 'vaccines happen'.

I know you know what I'm taking about.

I'm really wanting to know what you mean by 'testing epidemic', and the peoples being tested upon.

Unfortunately, only about 1/2 of 1/2 of 1% of the science community has the necessary background to prove what I'm saying.
Do you know a thing about research? Takes big $$$$$$!! And when you're in a facillity,
you just don't go off on your own special research project, you're told what to do, and the parameter in which to do it.

Look North! OOooppss....the answer is South. Good luck searching for the truth.

Immune System research is the Holy Grail, research it. The Genome Project is centered upon it. Be very scared with this 'integration of species',, the Bible warns of the mixing of Blood for a reason, and crossing over to this level(integration), from only Human to Human, is one nasty accident waiting to happen.

*I'm certain your buddy will follow me up with some short pithy salute to you. blink.gif
Star Sludge
Hi Imagination.
I'm wondering what they are trying to prove/improve?

"The biohacker community will emerge as DNA manipulation technology decreases in cost and when the overall technological infrastructure enables instruments to be assembled in the garage. The Molecular Sciences Institute has a parallel DNA synthesizer that can synthesize sufficient DNA to build a human pathogenic virus from scratch in about a week. Assembled, this machine cost ~$100,000 about 18 months ago. We estimate the parts could be purchased for ~$10,000 today. A working DNA synthesizer could be built with relative ease."
Intentional Biology
http://www.intentionalbiology.org/osb.html

A 'testing epidemic' is the sort of inherent bias in a scientific community that believes that Gays, Drug Users and Africans will be the ones who will have AIDS and by focusing on them they then find what they want, that is HIV to prove their argument and keep themselves in a job.

It's far more confusing though, we have a test for one HIV and everyone has different HIV's, they are fibbing to us.

"Andreas Suhrbier: Well, using this logic that Killer white T-cells are what you need to induce, we've argued that perhaps if you had a vaccine that could generate an immune response that would recognise all the different variants of HIV at once, that you might have a chance of having an effective vaccine. Now this is quite complicated because you might imagine there are hundreds and thousands of different HIV variants."
AIDS Vaccine
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/helthr...ries/s13221.htm

So which HIV is the one that is supposed to kill people?
I still think the thousands of HIV's they are finding are each unique to the genome of the person they test.
My opinion.
Star Sludge
Imagination made me think about PCR so what does the inventor of the PCR think about it being used for ‘HIV’ detection?

“Kary Mullis, inventor of PCR, won a 1993 Nobel prize for his billion-dollar invention, which has become indispensable to any genetics lab. It is ironic that one of the first applications of PCR was to detect HIV, considering that Mullis himself doesn't believe his invention is capable of this. Mullis states the problem is PCR is too efficient -- it will amplify whatever DNA is in the sample, regardless of whether that DNA belongs to HIV or a contaminant. And how do you decide which part of the amplified material could be HIV and which part the contaminant(s), if you couldn't detect HIV in the sample without using PCR?”
VIRAL LOAD AND THE PCR
Why they can't be used to prove HIV infection
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/chjtests5.htm

Or that this subject of HIV and AIDS drugs made him cry….
“He takes a deep breath, and I realize that on the other end of the phone, Kary Mullis, Nobel laureate, pioneer of the DNA revolution, has started to cry.”
Interview with Kary Mullis 1994
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/cfmullis.htm

So again the inherent problem with measuring RT and Protease of so-called HIV is that these enzymes are also used by our own retroviruses.

“Amplification of human immunodeficiency virus type 1 (HIV) reverse transcriptase (RT) and protease (PT) sequences from plasma is difficult when HIV RNA levels are low, and it usually cannot be accomplished in samples with <1,000 HIV RNA copies/ml.”
Recovery and Analysis of Human Immunodeficiency Virus Type 1 (HIV) RNA Sequences from Plasma Samples with Low HIV RNA Levels
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...88714&tools=bot

“The human genome contains a wide variety of endogenous retrovirus-like sequences. The human endogenous retrovirus type K (HERV-K) family comprises 30-50 members per haploid genome in humans and is highly conserved in Old World monkeys and apes. Some proviruses are displaying open reading frames (ORF) with coding capacity for viral particles. HERV-K sequences most likely code for the previously described human teratocarcinoma-derived virus (HTDV) and correlated expression of HERV-K Gag has been demonstrated by immunoelectron microscopy studies. Protease, but not yet reverse transcriptase (RT), enzymatic activity was demonstrated for recombinant HERV-K proteins. However, an ultrasensitive RT assay revealed specific polymerase activity associated with the HTDV particles. HERV-K transcription is specifically regulated by viral long terminal repeats and RNA is expressed at low steady-state levels in a variety of human tissues and tumours.
HERV-K: The Biologically Most Active Human Endogenous Retrovirus Family.1996
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...&indexed=google

“Protease, but not yet reverse transcriptase (RT), enzymatic activity was demonstrated for recombinant HERV-K proteins.”
That study was 1996 but did say “However, an ultrasensitive RT assay revealed specific polymerase activity associated with the HTDV particles.”
So by 1998 this was being said about HERV-K and this is an example of how fast we are going, quick enough for ‘open source biology’ and everyone else with a lab to play games with all of these genes.
Yep, Imagination is right, mixing blood will mutate us.
We are heading into the De-Formation not a Reformation.

“Of the numerous endogenous retroviral elements that are present in the human genome, the abundant HERV-K family is distinct because several members are transcriptionally active and coding for biologically active proteins. A detailed phylogeny of the HERV-K family based on the partial sequence of the reverse transcriptase (RT) gene revealed a high incidence of an intact RT open reading frame within the HML-2 subgroup of HERV-K elements.”
Identification of an Active Reverse Transcriptase Enzyme Encoded by a Human Endogenous HERV-K Retrovirus
http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/73/3/2365

And so if Kary Mullis says HIV-1 RNA is meaningless what does this say about using the PCR when we know that there “hundreds and thousands of different HIV variants."
Do they really know what a HIV test means?

“Measurement of human immunodeficiency virus type 1 (HIV-1) plasma RNA levels using Roche AMPLICOR version 1.5 (HIV RNA) is an integral part of monitoring HIV-infected patients in industrialized countries. These assays are currently unaffordable in resource-limited settings. We investigated a reverse transcriptase (RT) assay as a less expensive alternative for measuring viral burden that quantifies RT enzyme activity in clinical plasma samples. A comparison of RT and HIV RNA assays was performed on 29 paired plasma samples from patients living in the United States and 21 paired plasma samples from patients living in Cameroon. RT levels correlated significantly with plasma HIV RNA viral loads in plasma from U.S. patients (r = 0.898; P < 0.001) and Cameroonian patients
Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) Reverse Transcriptase Activity Correlates with HIV RNA Load
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...i?artid=1233909

Here’s an example of the confusion.

“A high-risk vaccinee presented after an acute febrile episode and was tested for HIV-1 infection by reverse transcriptase (RT) PCR of viral RNA.”
“Eventually, testing of all previously reactive samples by RNA RT-PCR was repeated in a quality-controlled laboratory, and confirmed the negative HIV-1 status of the individual. Interpretation This case report exemplifies the difficulties with use of viral-genome measurement as a screening test to diagnose HIV-1 infection, particularly in individuals who have ever participated in HIV-1 vaccine trials.”
Extensive evaluation of a seronegative participant in an HIV-1 vaccine trial as a result of false-positive PCR
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2746231

I’ll have to talk about Carnitine and introduce some completely different concepts about all diseases tomorrow and how we can help ourselves.
It’s not about Methylation but links into the jigsaw puzzle quite precisely.
Imagination
QUOTE (Star Sludge+Nov 29 2006, 12:06 AM)
I'm wondering what they are trying to prove/improve?

"The biohacker community will emerge as DNA manipulation technology decreases in cost

The 'Hebrews' warned against the mixing of the 'blood', and it was much more than relationships that they're were speaking too.

I hope you can fathom those minds of no conscience, that will 'research' and 'mix' for the sake of profits, and or 'new ideas' where they think they can go 'one up' upon the Creator himself= G-d.
See, some people think they are the ones to decide how life should be, and they use their intelligence to suit their desires, without comprehending or caring of the consequences.

Hmmm.......this guy we hear of sometimes; is his name Lucifer? Thought he had it all figured out, wanted to be like the Master himself. There is only one Master, one G-d.
Yep, ole Lucifer wanted the 'code' to manipulate himself, and G-d sent him to Hell.
How's it work it out this Open Source Biology?
ABO
RH factors
.........................Kell Group ,, controls(late a gate!), to the family lineage antibody and antigens(the top grouping for lineage).

Ooops, secret is out now. You're letting out a monster that no one will no what to do with. Let's hope that everyone who is integrating species and other attempts to make Everything Perfect, has a perfect spirit blink.gif sad.gif .

*I know there are people who want to do 'good', and help others, but this immune system 'decoding and penetration',,,,, is insanity in the making.

When will they know to stop/how far will they go?.
*If you can't answer that question, then you have the answer already.

**For the 'watchers', this comment of mine is being 'real timed', so have a nice.
Erasing will only bring more attention.
Star Sludge
Imagination is opening a can of worms and showing us that open source folk are opening an ugly thing.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment, I’m just doing an analysis of what went wrong in biology because of a wrong turn in 1984 that blamed HIV for AIDS.
You’re job is harder because what is going wrong with ‘open source biology ’ is not immediately apparent and the worst is yet to happen.
I don’t care if they are watching because they need to educate themselves and wake up anyway.
If you think about it the cancer wards are full of dying people, they are being given ineffectual cures after a century of intensive and expensive research and those involved are not immune, they will die from the same diseases they pretend they can cure.
It’s like the prison warders having to work in the prison of their own making, if you believe in Satan then he has to live in his own hell.
(:
Best show people ‘Kell antigens’ and the point about mixing of blood.

“Kell antigens are important in transfusion medicine, autoimmune hemolytic anemia and hemolytic disease of the newborn. Individuals lacking a specific Kell antigen may develop antibodies against Kell antigens when transfused with blood containing that antigen. Subsequent blood transfusions may be marked by destruction of the new cells by these antibodies, a process known as hemolysis. People without Kell antigens(K0), must be transfused with blood from donors who are also K0 to prevent hemolysis.
Autoimmune hemolytic anemia (AIHA) occurs when the body produces an antibody against a blood group antigen on its own red blood cells. The antibodies lead to destruction of the red blood cells with resulting anemia. Similarly, a pregnant woman may develop antibodies against fetal red blood cells, resulting in destruction, anemia, and hydrops fetalis in a process known as hemolytic disease of the newborn. (HDN).”
Kell antigen system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kell_antigen_system

These problems began with Pasteur many years ago, his paranoid vaccine cult has a lot to answer for.
It was only logical to wash hands before surgery, we have saved millions of lives with clean water, flushing toilets and fresh food. It was always the sewage workers, refrigeration mechanics and farmers who should have received the accolades. Antibiotics did a lot but now they are overused.
Vaccines are really part of a fashion due to an invention that has appeared in a very short period of human history.
They have mixed blood, caused strange drug addictions and created an almost paranoid belief that society would fall apart if we didn’t all partake in the scientific communion of sticking the latest vaccine into us.
The idea of creating antibodies was OK but putting it straight into the blood stream was idiotic.
We now have an epidemic of autism due to possible hypomethylation of the nervous system caused by Mercury in the vaccines, a researcher called Jill James uses Methylation nutrients to treat Autism.
Abnormal methionine transsulfuration metabolites in autistic children
http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/dan/jilljames.htm
There is also an epidemic of autoimmune diseases because our immune systems are getting confused.
It should have always been done by introduction of pathogen’s to the Langherhan’s cells in the skin.

“On infection of an area of skin, the local Langerhans' cells will take up and process microbial antigens before travelling to the T-cell areas in the cortex of the draining lymph node and maturing to become fully-functional antigen presenting cells.”
Langerhans' cells
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell

I’ve kept showing the similarity of HIV symptoms to autoimmune diseases and the other fact that diseases like arthritis are accompanied by our own retroviruses and so how can we tell?
The results of HIV vaccination would simply be creation of antigens to ourselves, it can never work and should never be attempted and all work on HIV vaccines should be stopped.
But what can we do?
This is not even allowed debate in Nature.

I’ll show you Carnitine.
“It can be synthesised within the body from the amino acids lysine or methionine. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is essential to the synthesis of carnitine. It has been speculated that during growth or pregnancy the requirement of carnitine could exceed its natural production.”
Carnitine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnitine

I take Lysine tablets and get heaps of Methionine by throwing a few Brazil nuts into muesli, I squeeze the odd lemon or have a bag of Sodium Ascorbate on hand if I’m lazy so my Carnitine should be OK.

If you look at this conference on Carnitine you’ll find they talk about Renal disease, Diabetes, Heart disease, Cancer, HIV/AIDS, Thyroid function and Alzheimer’s, it’s seems to be pretty useful stuff.
Carnitine: The Science Behind a Conditionally Essential Nutrient
http://dietary-supplements.info.nih.gov/Ne...ce_Summary.aspx

AIDS is a disease of 30 indicator diseases, pretty much the same diseases that anyone can get, things like Carnitine are important not just for AIDS patients but all of us, why are we waiting?

“No toxicity related to L-carnitine therapy was observed and dose reductions were not necessary. In HIV-1-infected subjects, long-term infusions of L-carnitine produced substantial increases in the rate and absolute counts of CD4 and, to a lesser degree, of CD8 lymphocytes. This was paralleled by a reduced frequency of apoptotic cells of both subgroups and a decline in the levels of ceramide. No clinically relevant change of HIV-1 viremia was observed.”
Effect of L-Carnitine on Human Immunodeficiency Virus-1 Infection-Associated Apoptosis
http://www.bloodjournal.org/cgi/content/ab.../10/3817?ck=nck

I think it’s funny that Carnitine raised the CD4 count but “No clinically relevant change of HIV-1 viremia was observed”, that kind of means HIV-1 has nothing to do with the loss of CD4 cells, doesn’t it?

And Methylation nutrients also help synthesize Carnitine, it’s all helical and circular.

“The stimulating effect of vitamin B12 and donors in methyl groups on the carnitine synthesis seems to result from activation of methylation.”
The effect of methylation on the carnitine synthesis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...9&dopt=Abstract

When you look at Carnitine and the effect of AIDS drugs on body levels of it the outcome is not good.
So why do we use these treatments?
Because that is what we have been told to do.

“Serum free and total carnitine, acylcarnitines, methionine and lysine were significantly lower in HIV-infected children compared with our reference values for similar ages.”
Low serum carnitine in HIV-infected children on antiretroviral treatment
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15138529

“Reduced levels of serum carnitines (3-hydroxy-4-N-trimethyl-ammonio-butanoate) are found in most patients treated with zidovudine.”
“Our data indicate that carnitine deficiency occurs in PBMC from patients with advanced AIDS, despite normal serum concentrations. The increase in cellular carnitine content strongly improved lymphocyte proliferative responsiveness to mitogens. Because carnitine status is an important contributing factor to immune function in patients with advanced AIDS, we therefore believe that L-carnitine supplementation could have a role as a complementary therapy for HIV-infected individuals.”
Carnitine depletion in peripheral blood mononuclear cells from patients with AIDS: effect of oral L-carnitine.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...3&dopt=Abstract

“A severe dose limiting axonal peripheral neuropathy may develop in subjects on treatment with the nucleoside analogues didanosine (ddl), zalcitabine (ddC), and stavudine (d4T). The impairment of mitrochondrial DNA synthesis is crucial to the pathogenesis of this disorder although other mechanisms have not been ruled out. The depletion of acetyl-carnitine, which regulates the metabolism and function of peripheral nerves could contribute to the neurotoxicity of these compounds.”
“CONCLUSIONS: Our results demonstrate that subjects who developed peripheral neuropathy while staying on treatment with ddl, ddC and d4T had acetyl-carnitine deficiency. The normal levels of total carnitine in the study group appear to indicate the specificity of the defect and rule out coexisting relevant nutritional problems. The critical role of acetyl-carnitine for the metabolism and function of the peripheral nerves supports the view that the acetyl-carnitine deficiency found in these subjects may contribute to the neurotoxicity of ddl, ddC and d4T, even though the interference with mitochondrial DNA synthesis is regarded as the main cause of their toxicity.”
Acetyl-carnitine deficiency in AIDS patients with neurotoxicity on treatment with antiretroviral nucleoside analogues
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...5&dopt=Abstract

I’ve shown how Hyperthyroid symptoms are similar to so-called HIV infection and that Hyperthyroid Autoimmune diseases cross react with HIV tests, here Carnitine stops Hyperthyroid.

“In the randomized trial, we showed that 2 and 4 grams per day of oral L-carnitine are capable of reversing hyperthyroid symptoms (and biochemical changes in the hyperthyroid direction) as well as preventing (or minimizing) the appearance of hyperthyroid symptoms (or biochemical changes in the hyperthyroid direction).”
“A very recent clinical observation proved the usefulness of L-carnitine in the most serious form of hyperthyroidism: thyroid storm. Since hyperthyroidism impoverishes the tissue deposits of carnitine, there is a rationale for using L-carnitine at least in certain clinical settings.”
Effects of carnitine on thyroid hormone action
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16354289

But this gets more exciting and can be applied to reversing brain aging as in Alzheimer’s if you add in Melatonin.

“After 25-month-old mice received basal diet together with 300 mg/l acetyl L-carnitine in the drinking water for 8 weeks, these levels were fully restored to those found in younger animals. A partial restoration was found when old animals received basal diet supplemented with 200 ppm melatonin in the diet. Levels of mRNA (messenger RNA) for nNOS were unchanged following these treatments implying translational regulation of nNOS activity. Behavioral indices indicative of exploratory behavior were also depressed in aged animals. Dietary supplementation with melatonin or acetyl L-carnitine partially reversed these changes. These findings suggest that dietary supplementation cannot merely arrest but indeed reverse some age-related increases in markers of oxidative and inflammatory events occurring with the cortex.”
Reversal of biochemical and behavioral parameters of brain aging by melatonin and acetyl L-carnitine
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=14027917

So why don’t we do this for HIV as well?

“During the natural history of HIV-1 disease, serum melatonin levels are progressively reduced. This reduction may be related to the impairment of Th1 immunoresponses.”
Reduction of serum melatonin levels in HIV-1-infected individuals' parallel disease progression
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15324440

I take two 50mg tablets of B6 a day to help my sleep along with some Magnesium to absorb it, I think B6 deficiency (another Methylation nutrient) may be a big factor in the loss of Melatonin.

“The data obtained showed a significant increase in melatonin levels after pyridoxine administration in the pyridoxine night group”
Pineal response after pyridoxine test in children
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...st_uids=8872867

Because B6 also affects a heap of enzymes and also T-cell function.

“It appears that vitamin B6 is an essential nutrient for maintenance of normal T-cell function in vivo.”
The effect of vitamin B6 deficiency on cytotoxic immune responses of T cells, antibodies, and natural killer cells, and phagocytosis by macrophages.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...8&dopt=Abstract

Whatever you think, we are not up with potential treatments and I can’t see any logic in many of our drug treatments if they deplete the very things that are needed for the immune system to operate properly.
Star Sludge
If your a fan of Louis Pasteur then I’d recommend a look at Bechamp his peer who Pasteur pinched many ideas off.
Antoine Bechamp
http://www.bechamp.org/

Then there’s Gaston who made such a powerful light microscope that I still wonder why everyone hasn’t got it in their labs? You can read his story here.
The Persecution and Trial of Gaston Naessens
http://www.banned-books.com/truth-seeker/1...1_2/ts212h.html

Even better if you go to Gaston’s site you find Canadians blocked from even looking, who says science is open and free?
Gaston Naessens
http://www.cerbe.com/

Then from Brisbane where I live my local University of Queensland, (the people who made me suspicious about HIV/AIDS in the first place because they had the ‘AIDS War’ in their library) have found nanobes.
Dr Philippa Uwins' Nanobes
http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/index.html.../nanointro.html

So it’s apparent that we are crawling with all sorts of things and they may be Pleomorphic, is that a word of heresy?

I have different views about the immune system, when my skin peeled off because my immune system was attacking it I had a barrage of blood tests, urine tests etc. They found nothing except a raised level of neutrophils and an enlarged liver, the effects were spectacular though.
If I had been tested too much they could have blamed some pathogen but it was just chemical exposure.
I’m going to veer off for a moment and mention Ebola since that gets people excited.
Ebola and marburg are viruses that attack our endothelial cells and cause bleeding but if you look closely at the literature it’s the prolonged release of Nitric Oxide from our white blood cells causing most of the damage.
We just get burnt by our own acid.

I was watching a show on Ebola one day and was horrified as the highly paid virus warriors in their protective white suits just put a Congolese lady into a corner with a bowl of water and watched her die.
What did they expect to happen?
So I want you to think carefully about what we are doing here, it’s actually complete negligence based on our paranoid belief system of pathogens.
I believe that Ebola is only occurring in areas of low Selenium and Iodine combined with low protein diets and scurvy.
We could save people with a truckload of Brazil nuts, Lysine tablets, Lemons and maybe a few cans of Tuna or Salmon and a dash of iodized salt.
I’m showing you different causes of hemorrhage.

“Symptoms of iodine deficiency in piglets born to iodine deficient sows are thickened skin, puffy necks, hairlessness, and bloated appearance. Some of the piglets are born dead, others are alive but weak and usually die within a few hours. At necropsy, the thyroid is enlarged and hemorrhagic.”
IODINE FOR ANIMALS
http://www.saltinstitute.org/47q.html

“Selenium has an anticlotting effect, whereas selenium deficiency has a proclotting or thrombotic effect. It is also well documented that extreme dietary selenium deficiency, which is almost never seen in humans, has been associated with hemorrhagic effects in animals.”
Computational genomic analysis of hemorrhagic fever viruses. Viral selenoproteins as a potential factor in pathogenesis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...3&dopt=Abstract

“Acute infantile haemorrhagic oedema: measles vaccination as possible triggering factor.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...1&dopt=Abstract

“The endothelial cell tropism of measles virus (MV) plays an important role for the pathogenesis of acute measles and complications following the infection. Infected endothelial cells may decisively contribute to the virally induced leukopenia, participate at the acute postinfectious measles encephalitis, and may support the entry of MV in the CNS. The molecular basis underlying clinical findings of endothelial alterations during acute and haemorrhagic measles, or CNS-complications are widely unknown.”
Investigation of the interaction of human endothelial cells with attenuated and virulent measles viruses
http://www.zv.uni-wuerzburg.de/forschungsb...ion%20DFG-E.htm

This study from Israel shows my point, why was “excess non-specific mortality was reported” following a measles vaccination?

“Following vaccination of children using high-titre live measles vaccine, excess non-specific mortality was reported, particularly among females. Since vaccination with live measles virus results in a temporary depression of the immune response to other antigens, the female predominance in subsequent non-measles mortality may be due to sex differences in response to live measles vaccines.”
Sex Differences in the Humoral Antibody Response to Live Measles Vaccine in Young Adults
http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/23/5/1078

So why did this outbreak of Marburg appear in a hospital, shouldn’t it have come out from the jungle like we all believe it should?

“The disease may have surfaced as early as March 2004 in a crowded children's ward. A doctor noted that a child, who subsequently died, was displaying signs of hemorrhagic fever. By October, the death rate on the ward went from three to five children a week to three to five a day.”
Marburg virus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marburg_virus

There was a massive vaccination campaign with live measles vaccine prior to the Marburg outbreak.

“The Angolan government on 21 April launched a month-long campaign to immunise seven million children against measles. 8th May 2003”
Huge measles vaccination campaign
http://www.actsa.org/Angola/apm/apm0908.htm

I’m not saying we stop these vaccine campaigns though I think mandatory vaccinations are an infringement of our rights and no governments should have authority to invade our bodies because that is sacred space.
It’s how we do this, we need a fundamental shift in thinking, if live vaccines have viruses that damage endothelial tissues just as a normal virus we catch does then why are we not warning people?
When a live virus vaccine is given the normal dietary things that protect us from viruses such as Vitamin C and Selenium should be given at the same time.
I see it like building the castle walls against the pathogens and bombing us with drugs is similar to nuking everyone inside the castle walls.
This would stop “excess non-specific mortality” and we’re talking people dying from vaccines here.

A little over 60 years ago the German schools were teaching Hollow Earth Theory and the Eugenics movement culminated in millions of dead at the hands of Hitler.
It was the German psychiatrists who suggested to Hitler that sterilization of handicapped people was a good idea and then maybe removing them for good was a better idea. Hitler was following his scientists and took it further.
We learnt a lot from that, I hope we did anyway.
The Eugenics movement turned into the Genetics movement.
I’m grateful for all their data, I’ve used all of it to write this, I’m also aware I use the carnage of animal studies, I also quote from the misery of thousands of patients, some who are now dead.
I’m hoping that we start learning from our mistakes, debating HIV/AIDS in public would be a start.
There is no indication that HIV/AIDS science will continue throughout this century, it is rapidly becoming outdated.
I swap emails with HIV tagged folk who have worked out that if they get better and retest they can come up negative.
They are also onto all of the contradictions of HIV, dropping their drug treatments and getting on with life.

The researchers involved are also rebelling.
This was about Nevirapine, now being handed out to women in Africa.

“Federal officials involved in a U.S.-funded study in Uganda endangered the lives of hundreds of patients testing an AIDS drug because of careless and negligent research practices, a government whistleblower said Tuesday.
Dr. Jonathan Fishbein said officials at the National Institutes of Health overlooked safety problems with the drug, which was being used to protect babies in Africa from HIV infection during birth.
The consequences of their failure "have grave and sometimes fatal implications for the lives of real patients," Fishbein said at a hearing before a panel of scientists from the independent Institute of Medicine.”
Whistleblower Says U.S. Bungled AIDS Study
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143300,00.html

And these recent studies are going against all we believe.

“THE widespread belief that the latest drugs for fighting Aids are reducing death rates has been confounded by a huge study covering 10 years of treatment which involved more than 22,000 patients in Europe and North America.”
Anti-retro drugs fail to increase HIV patients’ lifespan
http://www.thebusinessonline.com/Document....8D-2B4C704D9AC7

“Presenting HIV RNA level predicts the rate of CD4 cell decline only minimally in untreated persons. Other factors, as yet undefined, likely drive CD4 cell losses in HIV infection. These findings have implications for treatment decisions in HIV infection and for understanding the pathogenesis of progressive immune deficiency.”
Predictive value of plasma HIV RNA level on rate of CD4 T-cell decline in untreated HIV infection.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...t_uids=17003398

Today is AIDS day, it is ‘celebrating’ 25 years of AIDS.
My government will put red lights on the buildings in town, the AIDS groups are organising discos, I’ll have to dodge the stalls, I’m already telling some shops that selling the pink ribbons is quite offensive.
Last year Indian HIV positives cut theirs up in protest.
But this really started with 5 gay men.

“In 1981 five young men, all "active homosexuals" who were "previously healthy", were diagnosed as having Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (PCP), which was then believed to be a rare disease caused by a protozoan. Shortly after this a couple of dozen men, also active homosexuals, were diagnosed as having Kaposi's sarcoma (KS), which was then believed to be a rare form of cancer. Public health workers and physicians 'assumed' that there must be a connection, and strained mightily to find one. One term bandied about was "Gay Related Immune Deficiency", or GRID.”
AIDS: A Death Cult
http://kimbannon.com/docs/John_Lauritsen_Sept_2004.html

The rest has been part of our belief system blaming everyday diseases on one retrovirus, using the wrong drugs and also scaring people to death.
We need to move on and quickly before this gets worse.
Right now a campaign to get mandatory HIV testing for all women across the world is happening, this is all of us involved now, these are your kids, wives, girlfriends who will get snagged into the HIV net and they will suffer if you all don’t do something about it.
The gays already have seen it happen to them.
I’m just telling you what will occur if we don’t have the courage to say we made a mistake many years ago and do something to fix it.

Love yas all.
Cal
tikay
QUOTE (Star Sludge+Nov 27 2006, 10:32 PM)

I guess my point is that even if HIV was a man made retrovirus then methylation stops it. I still think it's endogenous.
Open source biology sounds scary, it looks like an arrogant excuse to do anything with living things that comes to mind, chimeras would be the result.
It really seems like anarchy playing games with genes if I understood the 'movement' in the right way?


Well there may be more chaos in deciding who's kids are who's but...who cares if it will just make some folks well again...nuthin wrong with the chimeras I have seen.

Peace~
And Please! Keep up the good work...it may get into the right minds and be of great use in time. wink.gif
Sorry for delayed response I have been away...obviously rolleyes.gif
tikay
QUOTE (Star Sludge+Nov 15 2006, 07:51 PM)

The pregnant lady who unfortunately got caught up in the HIV net and chose to abort was told by me to eat Brazil Nuts to lower her viral load, this is because they are a food and a cheap way of getting Selenium in the form of Methionine.
She’s OK, shocked of course and trying to fix her liver up after being given a lot of drugs

Do be extremely careful with your "medical " advice...your nutritional knowledge and ect.
There can be dire consequences to giving health advice, as you most probably already are aware. I heard of a fellow who was jailed for having said he had developed nutritional and herbal cures to AIDS, Cancer ect.
I have a paper somewhere in my files on the person.
I find it incredibly un-just and immoral that he would be imprisoned. Just beware of the potential outcome of advisement and healthful claims, (as a potential friend) I would hate to see harm come to a helpmate like yourself.
Sincerely~ t.k. wink.gif

This important conversation between you two is great a 1.
Star Sludge
Hi Tikay, Been busy looking at Cancer studies....

That is a good point, I'm not sure how a case like that would go though.
I'm sure a judge would be annoyed at prosecution trying to find fault with advice saying eat 4 Brazil nuts a day for Selenium.
Then there's the long part where I'd have to show evidence of why Brazil nuts in theory can lower viral load because of Selenomethionine content.
And there's also the possibility that the lady given the 'Brazil nuts' advice would be interested in starting her own legal action for an incorrect HIV diagnosis.
I think no one would go near it with a 'barge pole' so to speak.

Have a great Christmas.
JoannaJackson
I thought HIV could'nt be cured blink.gif unsure.gif
Imagination
QUOTE (Star Sludge+Nov 30 2006, 05:40 AM)
Imagination is opening a can of worms and showing us that open source folk are opening an ugly thing.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment, I’m just doing an analysis of what went wrong in biology because of a wrong turn in 1984 that blamed HIV for AIDS.
You’re job is harder because what is going wrong with ‘open source biology ’ is not immediately apparent and the worst is yet to happen.
I don’t care if they are watching because they need to educate themselves and wake up anyway.
If you think about it the cancer wards are full of dying people, they are being given ineffectual cures after a century of intensive and expensive research and those involved are not immune, they will die from the same diseases they pretend they can cure.
It’s like the prison warders having to work in the prison of their own making, if you believe in Satan then he has to live in his own hell.
(:
Best show people ‘Kell antigens’ and the point about mixing of blood.

“Kell antigens are important in transfusion medicine, autoimmune hemolytic anemia and hemolytic disease of the newborn. Individuals lacking a specific Kell antigen may develop antibodies against Kell antigens when transfused with blood containing that antigen. Subsequent blood transfusions may be marked by destruction of the new cells by these antibodies, a process known as hemolysis. People without Kell antigens(K0), must be transfused with blood from donors who are also K0 to prevent hemolysis.
Autoimmune hemolytic anemia (AIHA) occurs when the body produces an antibody against a blood group antigen on its own red blood cells. The antibodies lead to destruction of the red blood cells with resulting anemia. Similarly, a pregnant woman may develop antibodies against fetal red blood cells, resulting in destruction, anemia, and hydrops fetalis in a process known as hemolytic disease of the newborn. (HDN).”
Kell antigen system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kell_antigen_system

These problems began with Pasteur many years ago, his paranoid vaccine cult has a lot to answer for.
It was only logical to wash hands before surgery, we have saved millions of lives with clean water, flushing toilets and fresh food. It was always the sewage workers, refrigeration mechanics and farmers who should have received the accolades. Antibiotics did a lot but now they are overused.
Vaccines are really part of a fashion due to an invention that has appeared in a very short period of human history.
They have mixed blood, caused strange drug addictions and created an almost paranoid belief that society would fall apart if we didn’t all partake in the scientific communion of sticking the latest vaccine into us.
The idea of creating antibodies was OK but putting it straight into the blood stream was idiotic.
We now have an epidemic of autism due to possible hypomethylation of the nervous system caused by Mercury in the vaccines, a researcher called Jill James uses Methylation nutrients to treat Autism.
Abnormal methionine transsulfuration metabolites in autistic children
http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/dan/jilljames.htm
There is also an epidemic of autoimmune diseases because our immune systems are getting confused.
It should have always been done by introduction of pathogen’s to the Langherhan’s cells in the skin.

“On infection of an area of skin, the local Langerhans' cells will take up and process microbial antigens before travelling to the T-cell areas in the cortex of the draining lymph node and maturing to become fully-functional antigen presenting cells.”
Langerhans' cells
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell

I’ve kept showing the similarity of HIV symptoms to autoimmune diseases and the other fact that diseases like arthritis are accompanied by our own retroviruses and so how can we tell?
The results of HIV vaccination would simply be creation of antigens to ourselves, it can never work and should never be attempted and all work on HIV vaccines should be stopped.
But what can we do?
This is not even allowed debate in Nature.

I’ll show you Carnitine.
“It can be synthesised within the body from the amino acids lysine or methionine. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is essential to the synthesis of carnitine. It has been speculated that during growth or pregnancy the requirement of carnitine could exceed its natural production.”
Carnitine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnitine

I take Lysine tablets and get heaps of Methionine by throwing a few Brazil nuts into muesli, I squeeze the odd lemon or have a bag of Sodium Ascorbate on hand if I’m lazy so my Carnitine should be OK.

If you look at this conference on Carnitine you’ll find they talk about Renal disease, Diabetes, Heart disease, Cancer, HIV/AIDS, Thyroid function and Alzheimer’s, it’s seems to be pretty useful stuff.
Carnitine: The Science Behind a Conditionally Essential Nutrient
http://dietary-supplements.info.nih.gov/Ne...ce_Summary.aspx

AIDS is a disease of 30 indicator diseases, pretty much the same diseases that anyone can get, things like Carnitine are important not just for AIDS patients but all of us, why are we waiting?

“No toxicity related to L-carnitine therapy was observed and dose reductions were not necessary. In HIV-1-infected subjects, long-term infusions of L-carnitine produced substantial increases in the rate and absolute counts of CD4 and, to a lesser degree, of CD8 lymphocytes. This was paralleled by a reduced frequency of apoptotic cells of both subgroups and a decline in the levels of ceramide. No clinically relevant change of HIV-1 viremia was observed.”
Effect of L-Carnitine on Human Immunodeficiency Virus-1 Infection-Associated Apoptosis
http://www.bloodjournal.org/cgi/content/ab.../10/3817?ck=nck

I think it’s funny that Carnitine raised the CD4 count but “No clinically relevant change of HIV-1 viremia was observed”, that kind of means HIV-1 has nothing to do with the loss of CD4 cells, doesn’t it?

And Methylation nutrients also help synthesize Carnitine, it’s all helical and circular.

“The stimulating effect of vitamin B12 and donors in methyl groups on the carnitine synthesis seems to result from activation of methylation.”
The effect of methylation on the carnitine synthesis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...9&dopt=Abstract

When you look at Carnitine and the effect of AIDS drugs on body levels of it the outcome is not good.
So why do we use these treatments?
Because that is what we have been told to do.

“Serum free and total carnitine, acylcarnitines, methionine and lysine were significantly lower in HIV-infected children compared with our reference values for similar ages.”
Low serum carnitine in HIV-infected children on antiretroviral treatment
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15138529

“Reduced levels of serum carnitines (3-hydroxy-4-N-trimethyl-ammonio-butanoate) are found in most patients treated with zidovudine.”
“Our data indicate that carnitine deficiency occurs in PBMC from patients with advanced AIDS, despite normal serum concentrations. The increase in cellular carnitine content strongly improved lymphocyte proliferative responsiveness to mitogens. Because carnitine status is an important contributing factor to immune function in patients with advanced AIDS, we therefore believe that L-carnitine supplementation could have a role as a complementary therapy for HIV-infected individuals.”
Carnitine depletion in peripheral blood mononuclear cells from patients with AIDS: effect of oral L-carnitine.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...3&dopt=Abstract

“A severe dose limiting axonal peripheral neuropathy may develop in subjects on treatment with the nucleoside analogues didanosine (ddl), zalcitabine (ddC), and stavudine (d4T). The impairment of mitrochondrial DNA synthesis is crucial to the pathogenesis of this disorder although other mechanisms have not been ruled out. The depletion of acetyl-carnitine, which regulates the metabolism and function of peripheral nerves could contribute to the neurotoxicity of these compounds.”
“CONCLUSIONS: Our results demonstrate that subjects who developed peripheral neuropathy while staying on treatment with ddl, ddC and d4T had acetyl-carnitine deficiency. The normal levels of total carnitine in the study group appear to indicate the specificity of the defect and rule out coexisting relevant nutritional problems. The critical role of acetyl-carnitine for the metabolism and function of the peripheral nerves supports the view that the acetyl-carnitine deficiency found in these subjects may contribute to the neurotoxicity of ddl, ddC and d4T, even though the interference with mitochondrial DNA synthesis is regarded as the main cause of their toxicity.”
Acetyl-carnitine deficiency in AIDS patients with neurotoxicity on treatment with antiretroviral nucleoside analogues
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...5&dopt=Abstract

I’ve shown how Hyperthyroid symptoms are similar to so-called HIV infection and that Hyperthyroid Autoimmune diseases cross react with HIV tests, here Carnitine stops Hyperthyroid.

“In the randomized trial, we showed that 2 and 4 grams per day of oral L-carnitine are capable of reversing hyperthyroid symptoms (and biochemical changes in the hyperthyroid direction) as well as preventing (or minimizing) the appearance of hyperthyroid symptoms (or biochemical changes in the hyperthyroid direction).”
“A very recent clinical observation proved the usefulness of L-carnitine in the most serious form of hyperthyroidism: thyroid storm. Since hyperthyroidism impoverishes the tissue deposits of carnitine, there is a rationale for using L-carnitine at least in certain clinical settings.”
Effects of carnitine on thyroid hormone action
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16354289

But this gets more exciting and can be applied to reversing brain aging as in Alzheimer’s if you add in Melatonin.

“After 25-month-old mice received basal diet together with 300 mg/l acetyl L-carnitine in the drinking water for 8 weeks, these levels were fully restored to those found in younger animals. A partial restoration was found when old animals received basal diet supplemented with 200 ppm melatonin in the diet. Levels of mRNA (messenger RNA) for nNOS were unchanged following these treatments implying translational regulation of nNOS activity. Behavioral indices indicative of exploratory behavior were also depressed in aged animals. Dietary supplementation with melatonin or acetyl L-carnitine partially reversed these changes. These findings suggest that dietary supplementation cannot merely arrest but indeed reverse some age-related increases in markers of oxidative and inflammatory events occurring with the cortex.”
Reversal of biochemical and behavioral parameters of brain aging by melatonin and acetyl L-carnitine
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=14027917

So why don’t we do this for HIV as well?

“During the natural history of HIV-1 disease, serum melatonin levels are progressively reduced. This reduction may be related to the impairment of Th1 immunoresponses.”
Reduction of serum melatonin levels in HIV-1-infected individuals' parallel disease progression
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15324440

I take two 50mg tablets of B6 a day to help my sleep along with some Magnesium to absorb it, I think B6 deficiency (another Methylation nutrient) may be a big factor in the loss of Melatonin.

“The data obtained showed a significant increase in melatonin levels after pyridoxine administration in the pyridoxine night group”
Pineal response after pyridoxine test in children
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...st_uids=8872867

Because B6 also affects a heap of enzymes and also T-cell function.

“It appears that vitamin B6 is an essential nutrient for maintenance of normal T-cell function in vivo.”
The effect of vitamin B6 deficiency on cytotoxic immune responses of T cells, antibodies, and natural killer cells, and phagocytosis by macrophages.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...8&dopt=Abstract

Whatever you think, we are not up with potential treatments and I can’t see any logic in many of our drug treatments if they deplete the very things that are needed for the immune system to operate properly.

Thankyou 'Star Sludge'.

All the message boards that I've been too have someone who 'Eagerly Defends' the standard theories of origin and the 'functional aspects' of H.I.V.

None, can explain how Mice were made without any Immunce System a few years back. They seem to get 'upset' when I speak about this, and come up with:
"they were cloned".
Me: Cloned from what. What has no immune system to clone from?
Them: Silence ph34r.gif ph34r.gif .

That 'P-53' Gene is probably disabled or 'X'd out.
The Lymphocyte-Phagocyte mechanism is also probably disabled thru the Dendritic cells and Calcium Channels.

*They don't know what they are doing, that is true. They will mess things up for generations. Someone will. Some sickopathic will steal the technology and manipulate it for whatever their fanciful reasons tell them too.

'Kell Group'. Wow! Kell or Hell, it(what is 'It'= Identity) was locked in for a good reason. We should not be 'Mixing Identity'.
'The Devil is in the Details of Un-Locking the Immune System'
.
marc_1000
but if someone make the nanotechnology able to regenerate the body with the this idea the HIV different strains will be one by one be taken out by the regeneration of the white t cells and able to control the rate of regeneration to the point of the nano's become reinforced white t cells that cannot be attack by the HIV virus the only problem is that the nano's will probably attack the white t cells with the lymphocytes and destroy them in the process.
Imagination
QUOTE (tikay+Dec 9 2006, 04:52 AM)
Well there may be more chaos in deciding who's kids are who's but...
who cares if it will just make some folks well again...nuthin wrong with the chimeras I have seen.

Peace~
And Please!
Keep up the good work...it may get into the right minds and be of great use in time. wink.gif

Sorry for delayed response I have been away...obviously rolleyes.gif

I knew you were a pathetic fake from the response you gave in 'creation' section.

You should get yourself some 'Gene Vaccines', because you 'so believe' in this 'good'.

You should do some thinking about the future generations that will bear the horror of playing in 'G-d's Code.

The link I gave in another thread, quotes a research scientist who is beside himself because of what 'he knows' will happen in the second generation.

*You! What is your motive, Profit?! Protection of an experiment>>>?

You know nothing of what you do.

Do Not get on my threads about the coming Comet! I am on a short time line to stop it's coming.

marc_1000
I'm sorry but what comet is coming I'm a bit slow on what is happening and and

i cant type fast cannot spell very well but why are you talking about the end of the

world or something huh.gif
marc_1000
any way what has the comet got to do with HIV and how that Methylation can cure HIV
adoucette
QUOTE (Imagination+Jan 5 2007, 02:55 AM)
Do Not get on my threads about the coming Comet! I am on a short time line to stop it's coming.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

What a crank.

Arthur
marc_1000
Can please answer the question that how does methylation cure HIV mad.gif
Star Sludge
Imagination may be pointing out that a comet could kill far more people than HIV ever could.
(:

Selenium is needed for S-Adenosylmethionine or SAMe.
SAMe is needed for Methylation of our DNA.
All retrotransposons and retroviruses are kept dormant in the genome by methylation.
Although Retinoic acid is one of the signaling molecules that allows natural hypomethylation for cell division and fetal development.
No one knows if HIV is really endogenous or comes from being infected, it can’t be proven at the moment and since the HIV tests also pick up our own retroviruses all HIV/AIDS science is still unknown territory.
This came on the net Monday.

“NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Selenium supplements can slow the rise in virus levels in HIV-positive patients, which allows the number of beneficial CD4 immune cell to increase, according to results of a clinical trial supported by grants from the National Institutes of Health.
Low blood levels of selenium have been linked to high HIV virulence and more opportunistic infections, Dr. Barry E. Hurwitz and associates at the University of Miami in Florida report in the Archives of Internal Medicine. In lab experiments, the element suppresses HIV-1 replication.
Even when antiretroviral therapy (ART) is widely available, failure to keep the virus suppressed "is relatively common, due to the complexity and toxicity of the drugs," Hurwitz told Reuters Health. "Something like selenium is stable in the blood stream and may prevent 'viral escape'."
In their study, Hurwitz's team randomly assigned some 260 HIV-infected adults with no other major diagnosis to take 200-milligram capsules of inactive yeast (placebo) daily or 200-milligram capsules of high-selenium yeast. The researchers used selenium-enriched yeast (Selenomax, Nutrition 21 Inc.) because it contains high concentrations of organic, bioavailable forms of selenium.
After 9 months, viral load had increased by 10,000 to 20,000 copies/milliliter in the placebo group. Viral load was unchanged in the group on selenium supplementation, Hurwitz said, and CD4 cell counts increased.
The researchers identified 50 "selenium responders," whose blood levels of selenium rose significantly more than the average.
These responders tended to have greater adherence as determined by computerized electronic medication-monitoring caps compared with nonresponders, although some subjects with excellent compliance failed to absorb selenium.
Considering just the 50 selenium responders, their viral load actually decreased on average by 10,000 copies/milliliters, Hurwitz noted. Levels among nonresponders did not differ significantly from those in the plain yeast group.
The investigators conclude that selenium supplementation may represent "a simple, inexpensive, and safe adjunct therapy" to antiretroviral medications for HIV.
Hurwitz added that some stores sell the selenium-enriched yeast, with a 2-month supply costing about $15. However, consumers must be careful, he added, because many forms of selenium that are sold are not absorbed into the blood stream.
He also remarked on the potential impact that selenium supplementation could have in parts of world where soil is deficient in selenium, and people generally can't get enough from their food. "Selenium supplements could have very rapid and beneficial effects on HIV-infected individuals in those circumstances," he said.”
SOURCE: Archives of Internal Medicine, January 22, 2007.
Selenium may help lower HIV levels
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews....ELENIUM-HIV.xml

If you want to look at problems with the HIV tests I recommend this.

A video featuring Lee Evans, who won two Olympic gold medals and held three long-standing world records in track and field, is now up and running on YouTube and Google. Lee discusses the myriad of problems with the HIV tests. You can see it at
Lee Evans Speaks Out about the HIV Tests
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi7wo2KTkaQ
Lee Evans on Turning a "Positive Test" into Something Positive
http://barnesworld.blogs.com/barnes_world/...vans_on_tu.html

This also came on the net recently, if you missed all of this about AIDS then you missed it all.
A Brief History of AIDS
November 01, 2006
http://barnesworld.blogs.com/barnes_world/...ef_history.html

Written by Andrew Maniotis, Program Director in the Cell and Developmental Biology of Cancer unit of the Department of Pathology, Anatomy and Cell Biology, and Bioengineering, College of Medicine, University of Illinois at Chicago.

I’ll come back and start a new thread when I have time and talk about how Methylation and the nutrients needed for it that affect all diseases.

Rick Santorum
santorum (san-TOR-um) n.
1. The frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter
that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex.

To avoid HIV please don't consuming me.
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