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NEVERDRY
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On the contrary to the title of this topic I am not making any super natural claims that would only serve as to interfere with the scientific method; however I believe it is important that science should incorporate a mild sense of philosophy.

I personally marvel in the science we know today and I eagerly await more discoveries and enlightenment on the universe we live in. One of the things that truly set me in ore is the very fact that we are here to observe this vast, majestically WORKING universe.

Sometimes I believe that we all forget who and what we really are…

We are nothing more and nothing less than a product of the universe. We spend years studying the wonders of our distant universe, yet we forget that mankind itself, is one of the most impressive phenomenons we know in the universe.

I am sure this will antagonize many of the negative doomsday theorists that believe that mankind is just a dangerous animal that is destined to wipe itself out. I certainly do not believe that our species is with out fault, yet we are conscious, we are aware and we observe.

When we view the universe in all of its glory let us not forget that we are part of it, the universe has some managed to become conscious and is becoming more intelligent.

We marvel when we witness the birth of a star yet we forget that the universe has given birth to intelligent consciousness. Therefore the universe is conscious.

It is fascinating to think that in another billion or so years and given the almost certain odds of other intelligent life, what is becoming of the universe?

Are we really heading towards an intelligent, conscious universe?

Although I have never been distracted from the scientific method before and have maintained an atheistic view all of my life, I must admit that I am becoming more open minded. I can not say I believe that an intelligent creator gave rise to the universe, but I also can not say I can rule it out. If the universe itself can create its own intelligent consciousness that is able to observe itself then the notion of the intelligent creator does not seem so far fetched.

Who knows for sure? Maybe the universe is GOD

It’s all just a bit of fun with philosophy.

Warm Regards

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tlocity
NEVERDRY it is great to see even one person that recognizes that science is the search for truth no matter where it is found.

All experience indicates that all things in time must have a cause. This being true without exception the cause of time and all within time must be outside of time.

All experience also indicates that nothing can be greater then the source. It is therefore also true that the source for all things must have the attributes of all that exists or more than is known to exist.

Anyone that can not understand this basic nature of all that exist can never have an understand of the true nature of the universe or the realities or functions of anything in the universe.

The disbelief in God is self-limiting. I believe this to be part of the nature of the creation.
osimann
To Neverdry I appreciate your honesty

I have never sat in a chemistry or physics class, so I would never presume to know more about the topic than those that have.
Having said that. I did have an incredible dream that has taken me two years to sufficiently intellectually engage and put to paper in a much abbreviated manner that does require a little, joining of dots to fully appreciate.

The God awakening bit is just for convenience. You’ll understand as you go along.

Please excuse the format. It is to be spread through a book on which I am working.


When attempting to view down into other scales of existence, there will by definition never be an end to the question. (From what is that constructed)?

To assume an answer for the rules of entropy will be found within the scales of our perception is perhaps as arrogant as assuming that the earth is at the center of the universe.

To allow both these realities to hold relevance, when attempting to apply a set of rules that allow for logical explanations for the forces that govern our existence, we require a leap of faith to assume a level of consistent observational interaction that justifies an hypothesis.

When using the imagination to go beyond the testable theories of the universe, a jump-of point is required from the potentially infinite cycle of the question, (from what is that constructed).

Here is such a jump-of point.
A tongue in cheek jump-of point it is, but a point from which to jump all the same.

The DARK and the LIGHT

Life the Universe and Everything


By; OSI MANN



PROLOGUE

I don’t remember when there was just me. I guess there was nothing to gauge me against. No frame of reference to measure or compare.

My earliest memories, (of which I am aware) are of the time when there were only them (or us, depending on the perspective), the Dark and the Light.

Although I am them, I am not aware of being either, but rather always being aware of the other, from either perspective.

Are you confused yet?
I certainly hope so, because it’s taken me forever to figure it out and I intend to recount it as best I can, in a way I know you will understand, because you are me.


In the beginning, there was darkness and there was light. Although they were one, they were separated by their difference. Their only endeavor was to perceive their self by examining the other in ever more intimate detail.

From their initial perspective looking out at the other, the only fact they could glean was that the other seemed to be without size or scale of any measure, infinite if such a thing was possible. Indeed the only boundary they could conceive was their ability to change their perspective and examine their self at a different moment and from the other viewpoint.

This was not enough, they needed something more. As the change of perspective became more frenzied and the moments became shorter in relation to the time taken for intelligible perception to occur, the differences began to blur and a new sensation was achieved. For the first time, something was being experienced other than the standard view from the others perspective.

As this agitated state became the norm, a new perception began to materialize. Patches of light began to appear inside the dark and patches of dark within the light. These new areas displayed size and shape which although they were interesting from the outside, could not be perceived from within and an idea began to emerge.

As they perceived the new patches of dark and light from other new areas and continued to move perspective between them they created smaller and smaller dark and light patches until from their perspective they were immersed in an ocean of dark and light specks which could not inhabit the same space at the same time on the same scale but could exist one inside the other at different scales.

When perceiving out from any dark or light area, each scale up seemed to be infinite and each scale down seemed to be impossibly small. The process continued until their perceived view was no longer able to experience just dark or light.

This new environment quickly became as mundane in it’s familiarity as had their original experience of alternate contrast. Something had to change. An attempt was made to focus all their attention on just one area of light, changing attention always to a different dark area while always returning to the same patch of light until the dark patches within had no perceivable light between them. This they found interesting for they could no longer conceive light patches in the dark area they had created. When viewed from the next scale up, all that could be perceived of their new construct was a sphere of light that they knew contained only dark, sitting alone in an endless sea of light and dark specs that were by comparison, countless millions of times smaller.

Within the confines of their awareness they perceived an environment displaying the properties of pressure. The dark filled sphere of light was the only anomaly in an otherwise uniform balance of light and dark. Its existence created an imbalance within the endless expanse of evenly distributed contrast. There was greater volume of dark than there was light in the shell surrounding it, causing the light specs to gather in sufficient volume to restore balance within the immediate area of the spheres influence. This in turn caused the area from where the light specs had moved, to become imbalanced to the exact same degree as the original sphere, allowing another sphere to form.

The process repeated endlessly in three dimensions until a new equilibrium was attained, where each sphere was the same distance from each of the six nearest spheres and were separated by a now reduced density of dark and light specs. Each sphere was now the dominating influence in its own area of constantly balancing contrasts. The contrasting particles, under the influence of each sphere, formed into diminishing shells of dark and light until there was no light at the intersection of the spheres area of dominant influence. Once the balance was attained this newly created universe had no activity within it, for it had evolved into a solid structure, who’s nature contained the properties of a three dimensional object, floating in a sea of pliable chaotic universes.

Although they found the cause and effect action involved in the construction of the three dimensional object stimulating, the static nature of the structure left them wanting more. They created more of the structures until they observed what occurred when two objects collided.

The outer spheres of the structure, (the sub atomic particles), moved momentarily closer to their nearest sub atomic neighbors, immediately causing an imbalance in the average of the overall structure. This caused the dark and light particles, (sub space plasma) to adjust its average density, (electro-magnetic field lines), in relation to its nearest cubit, (Cubit = area between eight sub atomic particles forming a cube pressurized with sub space plasma). This effect was an ongoing event that continued through the structure until intersecting waves of sufficient amplitude, exceeded the physical structural capacity of the cubit universe and caused the event recounted as the Big Bang.

Although this event was miniscule in the frame of reference of the overall structure, it was the catalyst for the formation of the next scale of structural components, (Hydrogen nuclei), whose interactions are still dependant upon the imbalance of dark and light, (vacuum and substance), in relation to both their immediate area of influence and the average balance within the overall structure.


To imagine an event is to not only see the event but to feel it and ultimately understand it.

Dreaming

Moving through seemingly endless darkness, something appears. A speck of light so tiny, that it is barely perceptible. Approaching the light for an eternity, it gradually grows until it fills the view ahead and you don’t realise you’ve entered its structure until its horizons have joined behind you. The structure seems to be composed of two evenly balanced but contrasting components, substance, (the light), and vacuum, (the dark), with the area outside the structure being only the dark. The only apparent rule for their contrasting interaction is that within any given volume, the amount of vacuum must be equal to the substance. This rule is apparent only by the fact that there is a structure and that it is evenly constructed.

The only area of the structure that is not completely consistent with the rule is where the outer most particles of substance, borders the endless vacuum.
This area causes a persistent jostling of particles which in turn produce constant waves of vibrations through the structure that eventually intersect with waves from the other side, culminating in an imbalance sufficient to cause the creation of a new scale of structure where billions of substance particles attempt to form into a sphere consisting of a shell with the same volume as the vacuum they are surrounding. As the particles attempt to reach this equilibrium they upset the balance in the surrounding structure causing the now vacated vacuum, (in the immediate area of the new and now dominant structure), to merge and form another sphere.

The relative size of the spheres is determined by the difference in reactive response time between the almost instantaneous merging volumes of vacuum and the slower adjustment to equilibrium of the substance particles. This imbalance in response time insures the continued restructuring of the vacuum, substance balance, until the entire structure is an even spread of spheres, (sub-atomic particles) and a self regulating soup of substance and vacuum, (sub-space plasma) which forms into bands of varying densities around each sub atomic particle, (field lines) and moving between the particles as needed to attain equilibrium in the immediate area of dominate influence. The sub-atomic particles attain their balance by staying the same distance from each of their nearest six neighboring sub-atomic particles. This gives sub-space the structure of a three dimensional solid.

Although the structure has changed it is still the same size and average density, containing the same volume of substance as it had before the redistribution, only now the larger components give the structure greater rigidity and the sub-space plasma, (now distributed in bands of variable density), can adjust the spacing of the sub-atomic particles by influencing the average density in any given volume over any given time frame according to the pressure exerted on them by any imbalance in their immediate region of the structure and in relation to the balance of the overall structure.

Viewing Relative Time Frames

If the universe is a solid structure, composed of ever-more diminishing scales, then the molecular structures from which we are made are interacting with the universe at the speed that they are traveling from their point of origin. i.e.: The Big Bang.
When trying to understand the control parameters for quantum physics, the most logical component for study should be the structure that the atomic nuclei are interacting through.

If structural scale and time are relative then perceived reality is dependant upon the ability to observe on multiple scales in four dimensions.

A simple example would be to imagine a tennis ball traveling through the air at ten meters per second for a period of one second. Two cameras record the flight of the ball. Camera 1 takes one, one second exposure, recording the entire flight on a single frame. Camera 2 takes a thousand exposures of 1/2000th of a second, spread evenly over the one second flight. When viewing the images individually the term ‘best image’ would be dependant upon the preconception of what you wanted to capture and observe. If an exact image of a static tennis ball was required then one of the 1/2000th of a second images would be ‘best image’ and if an image of the balls curved trajectory was required then the one second exposure would be best.

If the volume through which the balls trajectory traversed, was filled with a smoke that luminesed for one second from the moment of close interaction with the tennis ball, but was only visible to the camera where the turbulence vortices compressed the smoke particles to a density sufficient to produce visible luminescence. Then the one second image would be of a structure containing a ten meter long tennis ball within a ten meter long luminescent tube of varying density. All of the 1/2000th of a second images would be of a tennis ball at the end of a luminescent tube whose length would be dependant on the position in the sequence of images. If the rate of the turbulence vortices production was one per half millimeter, (20000 over ten meters), and the visible time frame of each vortices was 1/2000th of a second, then each of the 1000 images would be of a tennis ball 5mm longer than actual size in a luminescent tube made up of 10 vortices whose length will be determined by their time spent within the time frame of the image. In reality all ten vortices will be the same, the differences will be dependant on time frame focus.

The reason that this rather involved concept is relatively easy to imagine is due to the familiarity of the components and the obvious implications of their carefully, simplistically defined interactions.
This is not however the case with atomic and sub atomic scale observations where our understanding of the nature of the components is based on theories derived from cause and effect experiments that do not take into account the sub atomic medium through which the atomic nuclei are interacting. This reasoning seems to be as hap hazard as trying to understand aeronautics without considering the existence of atmosphere.

If our sun has a life expectance of ten to fifteen billion years dependant on its interactions with other massive objects and atomic nuclei have a life cycle dependant on their interaction with structures capable of affecting their structural stability, then the life span of any object is relative to the particular environment in which it inhabits and interacts.

Observations of Quantum bodies, suggest interactive properties that defy the excepted observable rules of physics when applied to molecular structures.


Subspace

When an object as massive as an atomic nuclei, moves through subspace, it changes the density of the surrounding structure to a point where the dominant volume of influence of the nuclei intersects the dominant average of the structure, causing a shear point we would perceive as an electromagnetic field line. Although the pressure exerted by the overall structure is determined by the most dominant nearest anomaly, a pressure is being applied constantly, ensuring the presence of an electromagnetic field on all sides of the nuclei.

When more than one nuclei are traveling close together, perhaps as a molecule, they all compress the structure of subspace around themselves and in so doing lessen the density of the structure between the areas of dominant influence. The effect of the nuclei’s bow wave, which travels at light-speed, is to prepare the subspace structure for the arrival of the new area of dominant influence. When the influence of the overall structure between multiple nuclei is replaced by their intersecting electromagnetic field lines, the multiple become one volumetric anomaly in relation to the overall structure. Now having become one structure the nuclei are all under the influence of each other by virtue of them sharing the less dense structure of subspace between them. The name given to this interaction is GRAVITY.

Molecules
When the multiple nuclei attain proximity sufficient to form molecules, the intervening subspace structure becomes a variable capacity conduit for sub space plasma and dislocated sub atomic particles that have been torn from the ordered sub space structure at the shear point. These components have variable input and resistances, manifesting themselves as a vast array of transient structures that exist for variable time periods in response to the overall structures continuous attempt at attaining equilibrium. Once constructed, their existence is not always confined to the immediate proximity of the atomic interactions that create them. For some of these transient structures we have applied names such as photons, electrons, neutrinos and neutrons.

The interactions of nuclei produce a constant vibration in the surrounding subspace that indicates the atomic type of the structure by the regularity of the frequency being produced. These vibrations we perceive as photons. The subspace structure changes its average density in waves due to the expansion angle from the point of origin. The wave is produced by the constant change in the proximity of the nuclei and can only be discerned by the production of many waves from many close proximity interactions similar in their effect on the compression frequency of the structure.

The photon wave moves through the available structure of sub space in response to the consistency of the compression angle, which provides the various frequency ranges that we perceive as the light spectrum.

Counter intuitive interaction
With each squirt of sub space plasma moving out from the atomic structure, the cubit structure, consisting of sub atomic particles, each under the influence of its six nearest subatomic neighbors, move closer together in response to the change in the average density which increases and decreases according to the pull in effect of increased plasma and the suck out, caused by the greater structure being made temporarily less dense, culminating in an output wave. In response to the proximity of the nuclei, the structure of sub atomic particles is evenly constructed when viewed from side to side but there is a constant thinning of the structure as you look further from the nuclei. This means that the output wave does not compress from side to side but from dense to less dense. Transient structures will then form in elongated packets of compressed sub space structure moving away from the nuclei in various wave lengths dependant on the consistency of the output vibration coming from the atomic structure. Each type of nuclei will produce a slightly different length of transient wave structure allowing for identification of atomic type by spectral analysis.

When the transient wave structure, (photon) interacts with another molecular structure, its input frequency is not destroyed but rather it is added to the plasma being processed by the new structure and adjusted to the output frequency of the object according to the other influences acting upon it, which allows for the objects predominant atomic structure to be identified by the photons that are released from it. When the photons traverse the space between atomic structures they react to the massive objects as though they are being gravitationally affected, giving the impression of mass. The effect is produced by the shape of the sub space structure (sub-structure) which follows the form of the dominant atomic structures and can be considered both a part of the atomic structure and a part of the overall structure of the greater sub space universe.

Continuous structure
When viewed in different scales of size and time frames or varying combinations of time frames, any atomic scale structure including the sub-structure, will display interactions of both incoming and outgoing influences that can be interpreted as strings, waves or particles and that may display mass and influence. The objects sub-structure extends away from its point of origin to a distance dependant on the length of time that the object has existed and in-effect joins the atomic structure to the rest of the greater universe by virtue of simultaneously shared sub space. The perceived view of any object will be dependant on the relationship of time, size and distance of the object being observed, the shape of the dominant sub-structure, both through which it is being observed and through which its is traversing and the influence of other structures including the observer.

Electrons
The self sustaining anomaly we perceive as electrons, although almost always present when atomic structures form conduits for the redistribution of sub space plasma, are not however responsible, or even a prerequisite for electricity.

Although electrons and electricity are considered to be one in the same, the sub space plasma’s constant attempt at re-establishing equilibrium is the only prerequisite for energy exchange. The electron is simply the sub atomic scale, smoking gun, for our scale of perception and is the result of eddies and vortices attaining self sustaining structural status as anomalies, created in the chaos of atomic scale interaction through the sub space structure.

Cause and effect, past, present and future
When testing for the value of a response to an action in the realm of atomic scale structures, names are often applied to the observed phenomena and adopted as descriptions of objects rather than events. One example are the magical selection of quarks, which did nothing to further the understanding of the finest filaments of physical interaction and led to the naming of the next scale of magical unobserved particles called gluons. Atoms are not generally independently interactive entities but are a functioning component of molecules so when observing their values they must be appreciated as such. Any event detected within an atom is the result of what has already happened within the molecular structure, what is happening and what is going to happen. This is the nature of equilibrium.

Equilibrium
The varied combinations of inputs for the rules that govern our universe seem to imply that the very existence of substance can be viewed as an anomaly, (in so much as it is a persistent perversion of the uniformity of any system with which it interacts). When viewed at any scale, the finest measure of interaction always appears to be at the next scale down, leading physicists on a never ending exploration down the rabbit hole in a perhaps, vane attempt to observe the point at which all things touch.
(Infinite, is a term used by philosophers to describe a scale beyond measure but this seems to be a concept that is beyond the mathematical minds of physicists.)

The universes seeming immensity, is only comparable to the human brains inability to comprehend normality.

Through the scales we can presently perceive, the largest being the Big Bang area, structures like walls of super clusters of galaxies, to galaxy clusters, galaxies, globular clusters, solar systems, stars, planetary systems, planets, moons, asteroid belts, comet clusters, dust clouds, dust particles, chemical conglomerations, molecular clusters, molecules, atoms, nuclei, transient sub atomic structures, sub atomic particles, sub space plasma and beyond, the larger structures, provide the environment for the existence of all the scales below, while the smaller components influence all the scales above by virtue of their individual and combined attempts at attaining equilibrium within the time frames relevant to their existence. This understanding leads to the, chicken or the egg question, did the largest end of the scale exist first and break down to the smallest components or did the smallest components coalesce and form the largest structures.

The universes seeming immensity, is ONLY comparable to the human brains inability to comprehend normality.

Big Bang (0) Entropy

At any scale, depending if there is sufficient time to scale differential.

Some structures within the evenly constructed sub-space universe, originate as vibrations that themselves become dominant anomalies, destined to create volumes of sufficient imbalance to fold the plane of their dominant influence, much like folding a piece of paper. The two merging faces of the anomaly pull apart the structure of sub-space to a point where the, (newly vacated volume, -) becomes the new dominant anomaly in a momentary point of, (0) entropy with it’s creator from the past, (the substance rich, folded input wave, +).
This moment of (0) entropy causes an even greater volume of imbalance in relation to the overall structure, in effect temporarily becoming an anti-mater particle for its scale of existence.

Although any life forms that evolve the intelligence to contemplate their existence within the confines of the output event, may be able to imagine and observe (0) entropy events when looking down into other scales of existence and perhaps they will understand that there are (0) entropy events in the past and future in the structural scales above, their reality is that they, as structural components themselves will never physically leave their big bang event.
Very sad. They will just have to try to imagine the outside.

I don’t remember when there was just me. I guess there was nothing to gauge me against. No frame of reference to measure or compare.

My earliest memories, (of which I am aware) are of the time when there were only them (or us, depending on the perspective), the Dark and the Light.

Although I am them, I am not aware of being either, but rather always being aware of the other, from either perspective.

Are you confused yet?
I certainly hope so, because it’s taken me forever to figure it out and I intend to recount it as best I can, in a way I know you will understand,

because you, are me.

And we are (0) Entropy.


Jerry Langman
Osi Mann

jlangman@optusnet.com.au
osimann
• "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."

Albert Einstein
osimann
I do not believe in GOD
I do belive in some greater connectedness.
I hate religion with a passion.
I appreciate that in the distant past many wise people saw fit to teach their philosophies as sociological guidelines.
I hate the fact that unscrupulous people, both in the past and present take advantage of those very constructive philosophies and associate them with some mythical God.

At no point does this mean I have any idea about the truth.
I do however take solace from the fact that no body else does either.

I would very much appreciate any comment on the exert from my book. Positive or not, as long as it is honest.

I need to know if I have made contact with other minds that are capable of understanding the implications of my proposition. Nothing more.
tlocity
Osimann thank you for pointing out that when you lose the ability to see truth and the absolute prime mover, God, you can only wander in darkness.

René Descartes “I think, therefore I am” was the start away from reality and true science. The reality is “God exists, therefore I am”.

Descartes made science subjective and relative not objective and absolute. The source of all knowledge is God.
NEVERDRY
Great book to read by Paul Davies -

The Goldilocks Enigma: Why Is the Universe Just Right for Life? wink.gif
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