Tolerance.............
If we were a group of 10 year olds out on the school playground, and 1/3 of the group was standing around yelling idiots, retards, losers! etc, 1/3 of the group was standing around telling the group yelling insults to "grow up", and 1/3 are standing around not getting involved either way, which group gets a "talkin to" from the playground supervisor? The insulters...
But that group DOESN'T describe us.
It's more like 10% of the group is standing around yelling "idiot, numbskull, retard!!!" 20% is pointing out the idiots, numbskulls and retards and yelling "Idiot, numbskull, retard!!!" then pointing at the rest and saying "you're cool!" 10% is pointing out the idiots, numbskulls and retards and saying "You guys need to start learning, let us help!" and helping those who need it, 20% of the group is standing around doing nothing, and 20% is the idiots, numbskulls and retards who are giving the wrong answers to tomorrow's test to the final 20%.
And those like mr_homm and AlphaNumeric are simply... the teachers
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Insults aren't nice, and shouldn't HAVE to be tolerated. We in an entirity should not have had to tolerate Zephir so long. That is what started this whole mess. I was here in the BZ (Before Zephir) days, and crank science wasn't around much. Zephir started this whole downward spiral. And since he was allowed to post his garbage 50 times a day, others have followed. The solution isn't with the FM, it is with the moderators.
True, if you want a final solution to the issue. I'm not so sure I do. I'd rather see the board itself make the cranks feel unwelcome than to simply appeal to the moderators to kick them off. This gives them more chances to change their ways. Remember, some people who just want attention will do anything to get it. Including learning.
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| Insults aren't nice, and shouldn't HAVE to be tolerated. We in an entirity should not have had to tolerate Zephir so long. That is what started this whole mess. I was here in the BZ (Before Zephir) days, and crank science wasn't around much. Zephir started this whole downward spiral. And since he was allowed to post his garbage 50 times a day, others have followed. The solution isn't with the FM, it is with the moderators. |
True, if you want a final solution to the issue. I'm not so sure I do. I'd rather see the board itself make the cranks feel unwelcome than to simply appeal to the moderators to kick them off. This gives them more chances to change their ways. Remember, some people who just want attention will do anything to get it. Including learning.
I would LOVE to see the FM stay around, and be able to harrass the TRUE offenders (I will mention Zephir since he is banned). Pick their theories apart. But you must remember, the biggest offenders are here for a reason - they seem to all have enough of a mental disorder that they are dilusioned that they are the only people in the world that are right. These biggest offenders will not go away if they are being insulted (there is still one floating around here that I know). They actually are here because they ARE getting attention. So lets just quit feeding the trolls, since that is what they want. Lets get moderators FORCED into a position of not allowing pseudoscience.
Some of us still hold to the slim chance that these idiots who only want atention for their theories might actually learn something and start putting their creative talents to work in more useful ways. I'd
LOVE to see Farsight or StevenA lay aside their egos and misconceptions and be able to discuss subjects without making such ridiculous claims as they do now. As for Parsons, he's my... Hobby. I have no hope that he will come to his senses, I just enjoy baiting him for the most part. Cruel, yes, but he had a lifetime of choices in which he could have improved himself, made himself something better than he is, and he chose not to... I don't think it's wrong to convict a man who commits a crime, then walks into the courtroom to brag about it, and I don't think it's wrong to amuse yourself at the expense of someone who chose to believe ridiculous things and think in illogical ways, then signs up for a forum devoted to physics and science topics.
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my suggestion on how to do that would be for some of the highest educated (and open minded) to be able to tell a moderator that someone needs to go, and that person Goes. Byebye. I say this because I don't believe there is anyone left at Physorg that knows physics, otherwise they would be posting as part of the board like they used to.
AlphaNumeric. Dallas. Euler. BenTheMan. NeoDevin. mr_homm...
They've all posted several times since I joined...
Zarabtul
8th December 2007 - 05:06 AM
Well I had to go with the first choice. I was compelled to stop in here though am positiv4e I want no part of the discussions with the true cranks the "Forum Mafia." When I find a scientific community that won't steal my idea's while shunning me then I may give a cripe about the world. Until then i will let the Great Jesus Christ's proclamations continue to come to pass.
May God Bless you all with the ability to learn to be the body of Christ and stop thinki8ng someone is just gonna come save your worthless hide and you don't have to work to make heaven ON Earth...
Turn into energy and wait out the next Ice Age start over again and see how far you get. Seriously this scientific community has ben about as helpful as a pak of haters.
Got any more games Geoff? As you're Certainly not of Lordly Calibur just as I have stated in the past, present, and future.
Lord Elf,
Zacharia_Andrew_Pain
GENEUS
8th December 2007 - 05:31 AM
vkamath
8th December 2007 - 03:43 PM
QUOTE (GENEUS+)
...... now that's why we need the FM.
Sure..Why not? Thanks Forum Mafia Sock Puppet.
GENEUS
8th December 2007 - 04:00 PM
QUOTE (vkamath+Dec 8 2007, 03:43 PM)
QUOTE (GENEUS+)
...... now that's why we need the FM.
Sure..Why not? Thanks Forum Mafia Sock Puppet.
You're welcome.
Confused2
8th December 2007 - 04:34 PM
As Gehn is keen to demonstrate
If you start with N Type_A trolls and you introduce M Type_B trolls to control them
(N + M) > N
occidental
8th December 2007 - 06:07 PM
(N-M)<N
Mr. Robin Parsons
9th December 2007 - 07:39 PM
The FM need to be gotten out, removed or disbanded by whatever means possible.
They are a cankerous boil upon the very name of Science
N O M
9th December 2007 - 11:42 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Robin Parsons+Dec 10 2007, 07:39 AM)
The FM need to be gotten out, removed or disbanded by whatever means possible.
They are a cankerous boil upon the very name of Science
That's rich.
...um, parsons, this is a physics site. You know, about actual physics. Not the pretend stuff you and your cohorts play with here. You are not a scientist, you have never been or ever will be a scientist, you are merely a crank.
The FM don't attack real scientists parsons, just the pretend ones like you.
Sapo
9th December 2007 - 11:48 PM
QUOTE ("THEY"+Dec 7 2007, 04:06 PM)
In a court of law, would they allow a known mafioso to stand on the jury for a trial of a member mafioso who committed murder? No.........
Nice try.
Aw, c'mon, you guys know I am sly!!..... And you chose not to vote yes or no.
Next time, THINK before you vote on one of my polls. I usually use SOME form of psychology or another. LOL
Oh, now i just ruined my chances at further polls. Now you know my trick.
Hi, THEY. The trick was in the question of course. How could any of the FM give an honest vote?
But, you knew that anyway.
Like a fox, hm?
Sapo
9th December 2007 - 11:53 PM
QUOTE (N O M+Dec 9 2007, 06:42 PM)
That's rich.
...um, parsons, this is a physics site. You know, about actual physics. Not the pretend stuff you and your cohorts play with here. You are not a scientist, you have never been or ever will be a scientist, you are merely a crank.
The FM don't attack real scientists parsons, just the pretend ones like you.
() has a cohort? Fellow carton-campers, well-versed in misdirection? I wonder that () wastes ()'s talents here.
tikay
2nd January 2008 - 04:47 AM
QUOTE ("THEY"+Dec 5 2007, 03:36 PM)
Another point, I have given negs for behavior that I have read, while I was not part of the conversation myself.
I have given a couple of negs for that reason, and plenty of positives for good reason, in areas I did not participate within...I think there is no harm in having feedback when you aren't part of the thread, but you should at least hint at why in that feedback...I suppose, for good measure.
BTW I did not vote because...I didn't completely agree with any of the few choices.
It was kind of like being IQ tested...not enough answers to choose from darling!
How about....one like....The forum mafia should have all feedback that is utterly abusive removed....thus bringing balance back to the forum!
So much is completely sick and derogatory and humiliating and gross...they would lose in the game.
A glass bottles coming out of someones arse! Little retarded kids, and any retarded person for that matter should be taken out, pictures of nasty NASTY toilets and the like are not fitting to the caliber of a place I like to hang out...today i thought of leaving again, but for good...this time and I wondered what I would do with the time it might free up and I knew I would be bored but I have no further theories and I don't always read the science, except the news...
Bla bla bla lala palooza...I don't know why those sick feedback are still allowed in here. Maybe pictures should be eliminated altogether in feedback.
People are nasty enough without all that.
My two cents.
tikay
2nd January 2008 - 04:51 AM
QUOTE (Confused2+Dec 6 2007, 02:50 PM)
Hi Tikay
Hi dollface!
tikay
2nd January 2008 - 04:54 AM
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+Dec 6 2007, 01:58 PM)
Therefore, I issue a call to those named.
N O M, Alpha, Dallas: I ask you three intelligent and knowledgable members of the Mafia to lower your standards for the sake of us all. When those who have a decent understanding of science post mistakes, do not attack, but rather correct them.
This part was really good! IMO
Boneidol
2nd August 2008 - 10:27 AM
QUOTE ("THEY"+Dec 5 2007, 06:51 PM)
I am asking this in light of numerous threads recently complaining of the Forum Mafia behavior. While GENERALLY I have no problem with the Forum Mafia, I do believe their behavior goes too far at times. A few of them can be kind, friendly, and positive, while a few are consistently mean and nasty.
Since some certain Forum Mafia members prefer to spam individuals with negative feedback and obnoxious pictures, should these FM members have their add feedback capability taken from them? (If that is something that the moderators can program)
I feel the feedback is an unregulated section that is abused, and if one abuses it, they should not be allowed to use that function. At least for a time. Good behavior can earn back the use of the add feedback function.
And if the negative behavior continues again, something should happen. Maybe lose the ability permanently?
I am just sick and tired of seeing someone with a low feedback rating, only to find that there are 40 to 50 negative feedbacks (many with pictures or offensive statements) and they are all from 5 certain individuals....... Sometimes it is deserved, many times it is not.
Well said!
TheDoc
2nd August 2008 - 04:01 PM
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+Dec 7 2007, 11:51 PM)
But that group DOESN'T describe us.
It's more like 10% of the group is standing around yelling "idiot, numbskull, retard!!!" 20% is pointing out the idiots, numbskulls and retards and yelling "Idiot, numbskull, retard!!!" then pointing at the rest and saying "you're cool!" 10% is pointing out the idiots, numbskulls and retards and saying "You guys need to start learning, let us help!" and helping those who need it, 20% of the group is standing around doing nothing, and 20% is the idiots, numbskulls and retards who are giving the wrong answers to tomorrow's test to the final 20%.
And those like mr_homm and AlphaNumeric are simply... the teachers
Equally well said!
Boneidol
2nd August 2008 - 04:32 PM
QUOTE (TheDoc+Aug 2 2008, 04:01 PM)
Equally well said!
Nah, THEY's comment was at least 36.227% better.
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And if the negative behavior continues again, something should happen. Maybe lose the ability permanently?
That was a long time ago, by forum standards. Besides, your smaller half liked it! 