32m from my windows they have placed a cellular antenna direcly infront of my windows. it is about 5m high. i'm not that good in physics but i read about the faraday box, and i put on my windows infron of the antenna a metal net; 2mm/2mm is the size of each small square, and i connected the net to the soil. if this net is protecting me from the radiation; then what about the walls? does the radiation pass through the walls to? would i have to put also on my walls? because they are facing the antenna too. please; if someone understands physics well, please tell me.
Thanks!
Vivee
QUOTE (vivee+Sep 30 2009, 12:14 PM)
32m from my windows they have placed a cellular antenna direcly infront of my windows. it is about 5m high. i'm not that good in physics but i read about the faraday box, and i put on my windows infron of the antenna a metal net; 2mm/2mm is the size of each small square, and i connected the net to the soil. if this net is protecting me from the radiation; then what about the walls? does the radiation pass through the walls to? would i have to put also on my walls? because they are facing the antenna too. please; if someone understands physics well, please tell me.
A cell antenna isn't going to kill you. The radio waves (high radio to low microwave) it generates are less dangerous than visible light.
And yes, you would need to surround your entire house with the cage to block it completely.
A cell antenna isn't going to kill you. The radio waves (high radio to low microwave) it generates are less dangerous than visible light.
And yes, you would need to surround your entire house with the cage to block it completely.
It might be easier to just dress entirely in tin foil and ground that to the soil for complete protection.
(Yes.. I know I'm a bad person for teasing the crazy people)
(Yes.. I know I'm a bad person for teasing the crazy people)
can i put the tin foil on the wall, then cement over it and then paint?
QUOTE (vivee+Oct 1 2009, 10:34 AM)
can i put the tin foil on the wall, then cement over it and then paint?
Yes, flyingbuttressman. It won't kill me, but it is bothering my family and I. But It disturbs us to function properly - we can't sleep. (all my family and I.)
and by the way, a net of 2mm by 2mm is good?
thanks,
vivee
and by the way, a net of 2mm by 2mm is good?
thanks,
vivee
thank you, flyingbuttressman. But i only put the paint or with the tin foil underneathe? and how do i connect this to the soil? i'm very sorry if my questions sound weird but physics isn't my hard side AT ALL.
QUOTE (vivee+Oct 1 2009, 10:41 AM)
Yes, flyingbuttressman. It won't kill me, but it is bothering my family and I. But It disturbs us to function properly - we can't sleep. (all my family and I.)
I'm not exactly clear on what you are experiencing. Speaker interference? Outside noise? You should make sure that the problem is with the radio signal itself and not some by-product.
If the problem is indeed the radio signal itself, the Aluminum-Iron Oxide paint should block most radio signals.
I'm not exactly clear on what you are experiencing. Speaker interference? Outside noise? You should make sure that the problem is with the radio signal itself and not some by-product.
QUOTE
and by the way, a net of 2mm by 2mm is good?
If the problem is indeed the radio signal itself, the Aluminum-Iron Oxide paint should block most radio signals.
to : flyingbuttressman
I invited to my home a man for a radiation test... the results were a bit lower than the normal average, that is for my country its 45... (something...megahertz or something like that...) over mm. but for me it came a bit less. scientists say that it's not dangerous but we all can't sleep...! and we all have headaches - also the children. by the way, in another place like a hotel or someones house, we do sleep very well. and by the way, that paint doesnt need any connection with the soil? i just out it on the wall and that's it/?
I invited to my home a man for a radiation test... the results were a bit lower than the normal average, that is for my country its 45... (something...megahertz or something like that...) over mm. but for me it came a bit less. scientists say that it's not dangerous but we all can't sleep...! and we all have headaches - also the children. by the way, in another place like a hotel or someones house, we do sleep very well. and by the way, that paint doesnt need any connection with the soil? i just out it on the wall and that's it/?
QUOTE (vivee+Oct 1 2009, 11:11 AM)
I invited to my home a man for a radiation test... the results were a bit lower than the normal average, that is for my country its 45... (something...megahertz or something like that...) over mm. but for me it came a bit less. scientists say that it's not dangerous but we all can't sleep...! and we all have headaches - also the children. by the way, in another place like a hotel or someones house, we do sleep very well. and by the way, that paint doesnt need any connection with the soil? i just out it on the wall and that's it/?
I can't say I understand what's causing it, because it's certainly rare, but even just coating the wall of your rooms facing the antenna should help.
It doesn't need to be grounded, because the Faraday cage effect cancels out the signal without grounding (that's why lightening doesn't destroy an airplane in flight).
I can't say I understand what's causing it, because it's certainly rare, but even just coating the wall of your rooms facing the antenna should help.
It doesn't need to be grounded, because the Faraday cage effect cancels out the signal without grounding (that's why lightening doesn't destroy an airplane in flight).
QUOTE (vivee+Oct 1 2009, 03:11 PM)
to : flyingbuttressman
I invited to my home a man for a radiation test... the results were a bit lower than the normal average, that is for my country its 45... (something...megahertz or something like that...) over mm. but for me it came a bit less. scientists say that it's not dangerous but we all can't sleep...! and we all have headaches
Probably 45 µW/m^2 ........ headaches?, can't sleep? - look elsewhere, could be an unbelievable concoction of things.
I invited to my home a man for a radiation test... the results were a bit lower than the normal average, that is for my country its 45... (something...megahertz or something like that...) over mm. but for me it came a bit less. scientists say that it's not dangerous but we all can't sleep...! and we all have headaches
Probably 45 µW/m^2 ........ headaches?, can't sleep? - look elsewhere, could be an unbelievable concoction of things.
45 micro vat for cm.
this is the new change for the house for the past 4 months.
i train in gymnastics and i never had a headache, even though i dont go to competitions i still do alot of excercise and when i put my head in the pillow i flow asleep. i sleep like im in a coma.
when the antena appeared there was a change. in the beginning when they told me it is normal i was calm but then there was problems like headaches and trouble falling asleep.}
it is clear that it has to do with the antena.
thanks
from vivee
this is the new change for the house for the past 4 months.
i train in gymnastics and i never had a headache, even though i dont go to competitions i still do alot of excercise and when i put my head in the pillow i flow asleep. i sleep like im in a coma.
when the antena appeared there was a change. in the beginning when they told me it is normal i was calm but then there was problems like headaches and trouble falling asleep.}
it is clear that it has to do with the antena.
thanks
from vivee
QUOTE (vivee+Oct 1 2009, 02:04 PM)
45 micro vat for cm.
this is the new change for the house for the past 4 months.
i train in gymnastics and i never had a headache, even though i dont go to competitions i still do alot of excercise and when i put my head in the pillow i flow asleep. i sleep like im in a coma.
when the antena appeared there was a change. in the beginning when they told me it is normal i was calm but then there was problems like headaches and trouble falling asleep.}
it is clear that it has to do with the antena.
If you can find that paint, you can paint just the one wall of your bedroom facing the tower and see if it improves. If your headaches in that room go away, you could buy more of the paint for the rest of the house. The paint works because it has a metallic component which cancels out the radio waves. In the article I linked to, it was quoted as being used to block wi-fi and cell phone signals.
this is the new change for the house for the past 4 months.
i train in gymnastics and i never had a headache, even though i dont go to competitions i still do alot of excercise and when i put my head in the pillow i flow asleep. i sleep like im in a coma.
when the antena appeared there was a change. in the beginning when they told me it is normal i was calm but then there was problems like headaches and trouble falling asleep.}
it is clear that it has to do with the antena.
If you can find that paint, you can paint just the one wall of your bedroom facing the tower and see if it improves. If your headaches in that room go away, you could buy more of the paint for the rest of the house. The paint works because it has a metallic component which cancels out the radio waves. In the article I linked to, it was quoted as being used to block wi-fi and cell phone signals.
thank you so much for this info!!
I find it difficult to imagine that the RF radiation is the cause, but if the conductive paint works, please use it.
I wonder if an audible, or sub-audible, hum from the transformers and amplifiers might be closer to the mark, though.
I wonder if an audible, or sub-audible, hum from the transformers and amplifiers might be closer to the mark, though.
QUOTE (vivee+Sep 30 2009, 04:14 PM)
32m from my windows they have placed a cellular antenna direcly infront of my windows. it is about 5m high. i'm not that good in physics but i read about the faraday box, and i put on my windows infron of the antenna a metal net; 2mm/2mm is the size of each small square, and i connected the net to the soil. if this net is protecting me from the radiation; then what about the walls? does the radiation pass through the walls to? would i have to put also on my walls? because they are facing the antenna too. please; if someone understands physics well, please tell me.
Thanks!
Vivee
Vivee;
thanks for the post ;
You are right to take protective action if you are living THAT close to a microwave transmitter.
What country do you live in.?
I quote from a recent article;
In the US, ..."Agencies such as the National Council on Radiation Protections and Measurements, the International Radiation Protection Association, the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, and the American National Standards Institute, have established guidelines for exposure to RF radiation originating from cellular communications base stations. These guidelines were designed to protect workers, as well as the public, from potentially harmful radio frequency. The recommended exposure limits are in the range of .41-.45 milliwatts per square centimeter (mW/cm2) for cellular radiofrequencies".
Notice the exposure LIMIT is suppose to be around 0.41 milliwatts per cm^2
Howeever; these are assumed limits below which there "should" be no physical effects for humans.
These are plenty of research that indicates long term exposure can be hazardous.....and I think it is good that other here have given you ways to take protective measures.
The power output limit in US for a cell phone transmitter on a tower is typically around 100 watts; but the loop hole is that MANY towers mount multiple transmitters from various companies, etc.....which can easily run the wattage up to 1000 watts.
Living in the vacinity of this level has been reported many times to cause physical and emotional health problems....
Here's some more for those interested in further research...especially if you want to read some reports included here of the adverse health effects upon those who live near cell phone towers.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Cell-Phone-Tower...Harm&id=1003070
Lunar
...
Thanks!
Vivee
Vivee;
thanks for the post ;
You are right to take protective action if you are living THAT close to a microwave transmitter.
What country do you live in.?
I quote from a recent article;
In the US, ..."Agencies such as the National Council on Radiation Protections and Measurements, the International Radiation Protection Association, the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, and the American National Standards Institute, have established guidelines for exposure to RF radiation originating from cellular communications base stations. These guidelines were designed to protect workers, as well as the public, from potentially harmful radio frequency. The recommended exposure limits are in the range of .41-.45 milliwatts per square centimeter (mW/cm2) for cellular radiofrequencies".
Notice the exposure LIMIT is suppose to be around 0.41 milliwatts per cm^2
Howeever; these are assumed limits below which there "should" be no physical effects for humans.
These are plenty of research that indicates long term exposure can be hazardous.....and I think it is good that other here have given you ways to take protective measures.
The power output limit in US for a cell phone transmitter on a tower is typically around 100 watts; but the loop hole is that MANY towers mount multiple transmitters from various companies, etc.....which can easily run the wattage up to 1000 watts.
Living in the vacinity of this level has been reported many times to cause physical and emotional health problems....
Here's some more for those interested in further research...especially if you want to read some reports included here of the adverse health effects upon those who live near cell phone towers.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Cell-Phone-Tower...Harm&id=1003070
Lunar
...
to : Lunarlanding
I live In Israel...
Also, in the past few months i have been interested on the average of the radiation amount from cell towers, there isn't really a specific answer, yet if the radiation from a mobile phone antenna; in a small amount, however 24 hours a a day for months and years, really affect the human body.
These days I talked with friends on the subject on; does the Faraday cage block all electric magnetic signals, like from power towers and other things, or only radio signals?
sadly, that wi-fi paint that block radio signals does not exist here in my country. but, if i do put the pain on all of my walls in the house, what happens in the house with the things inside my house?
thanks,
vivee
P.S. everyone in this forum, told me that the radiation i get in my house does not have to affect me when i sleep and to get headaches- but honestly, it does. if you don't believe, you try sleeping 30m from a cellulare antenna.
I live In Israel...
Also, in the past few months i have been interested on the average of the radiation amount from cell towers, there isn't really a specific answer, yet if the radiation from a mobile phone antenna; in a small amount, however 24 hours a a day for months and years, really affect the human body.
These days I talked with friends on the subject on; does the Faraday cage block all electric magnetic signals, like from power towers and other things, or only radio signals?
sadly, that wi-fi paint that block radio signals does not exist here in my country. but, if i do put the pain on all of my walls in the house, what happens in the house with the things inside my house?
thanks,
vivee
P.S. everyone in this forum, told me that the radiation i get in my house does not have to affect me when i sleep and to get headaches- but honestly, it does. if you don't believe, you try sleeping 30m from a cellulare antenna.
QUOTE (vivee+Oct 6 2009, 04:38 PM)
to : Lunarlanding
P.S. everyone in this forum, told me that the radiation i get in my house does not have to affect me when i sleep and to get headaches- but honestly, it does. if you don't believe, you try sleeping 30m from a cellulare antenna.
You are correct , Vivee;
Most folks (especially in US) are totally unaware of the studies and reports that show adverse effects from living near cell phone towers....
Here in America there is a VERY powerful cell phone lobby group that tries contradict valid independent reports which clearly show adverse health effects in an attempt to keep Congress from passing legislation to restrict the towers.
Since you are from Israel....
Here is an excellent and independent report from Israel's Tel Aviv University , for example, that reveals tremendous adverse health effects on those living near the towers.
I re-printed it here:
"Israel study: fourfold cancer risk
Another study, this one from Israel's Tel Aviv University, examined 622 people living near a cell-phone transmitter station for 3-7 years who were patients in one clinic in Netanya and compared them against 1,222 control patients from a nearby clinic. Participants were very closely matched in environment, workplace and occupational characteristics. The people in the first group live within a half circle of 350m (1148 feet) radius from the transmitter, which came into service in July 1996.
The results were startling. Out of the 622 exposed patients, 8 cases of different kinds of cancer were diagnosed in a period of just one year (July 1997 to June 1998): 3 cases of breast cancer, one of ovarian cancer, lung cancer, Hodgkin's disease (cancer of the lymphatic system), osteoid osteoma (bone tumour) and kidney cancer. This compares with 2 per 1 222 in the matched controls of the nearby clinic. The relative risk of cancer was 4.15 for those living near the cell-phone transmitter compared with the entire population of Israel.
Women were more susceptible. As seven out of eight cancer cases were women, the relative cancer rates for females were 10.5 for those living near the transmitter station and 0.6 for the controls relative for the whole town of Netanya. One year after the close of the study, 8 new cases of cancer were diagnosed in the microwave exposed area and two in the control area."
[Published in the International Journal of Cancer Prevention, Vol. 1, No. 2, April 2004.]
Source:http://www.emf-health.com/articles-celltower.htm
There are plenty more reports just like it....but most folk here in America are in denial....just like they were regarding cigarettes causing cancer for 80 years !
Lunar
PS Here's a Company in New York from which you can order EM shielding fabrics,etc.
Its not cheap..$10 to $30 per lnear foot. See enclosed: http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html#1212
P.S. everyone in this forum, told me that the radiation i get in my house does not have to affect me when i sleep and to get headaches- but honestly, it does. if you don't believe, you try sleeping 30m from a cellulare antenna.
You are correct , Vivee;
Most folks (especially in US) are totally unaware of the studies and reports that show adverse effects from living near cell phone towers....
Here in America there is a VERY powerful cell phone lobby group that tries contradict valid independent reports which clearly show adverse health effects in an attempt to keep Congress from passing legislation to restrict the towers.
Since you are from Israel....
Here is an excellent and independent report from Israel's Tel Aviv University , for example, that reveals tremendous adverse health effects on those living near the towers.
I re-printed it here:
"Israel study: fourfold cancer risk
Another study, this one from Israel's Tel Aviv University, examined 622 people living near a cell-phone transmitter station for 3-7 years who were patients in one clinic in Netanya and compared them against 1,222 control patients from a nearby clinic. Participants were very closely matched in environment, workplace and occupational characteristics. The people in the first group live within a half circle of 350m (1148 feet) radius from the transmitter, which came into service in July 1996.
The results were startling. Out of the 622 exposed patients, 8 cases of different kinds of cancer were diagnosed in a period of just one year (July 1997 to June 1998): 3 cases of breast cancer, one of ovarian cancer, lung cancer, Hodgkin's disease (cancer of the lymphatic system), osteoid osteoma (bone tumour) and kidney cancer. This compares with 2 per 1 222 in the matched controls of the nearby clinic. The relative risk of cancer was 4.15 for those living near the cell-phone transmitter compared with the entire population of Israel.
Women were more susceptible. As seven out of eight cancer cases were women, the relative cancer rates for females were 10.5 for those living near the transmitter station and 0.6 for the controls relative for the whole town of Netanya. One year after the close of the study, 8 new cases of cancer were diagnosed in the microwave exposed area and two in the control area."
[Published in the International Journal of Cancer Prevention, Vol. 1, No. 2, April 2004.]
Source:http://www.emf-health.com/articles-celltower.htm
There are plenty more reports just like it....but most folk here in America are in denial....just like they were regarding cigarettes causing cancer for 80 years !
Lunar
PS Here's a Company in New York from which you can order EM shielding fabrics,etc.
Its not cheap..$10 to $30 per lnear foot. See enclosed: http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html#1212
That's not a good reference.
Authors Ronni Wolf and Danny Wolf are identical twins who work in a Dermatology unit. They seem to write political tirades in lieu of introductory material in their articles.
http://www.dermanities.com/detail.asp?article=72
https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/prod...roducts_id=1881
The study is based on eight cancers diagnosed over a year, and this is compared to 2 cancers from patients who came in by themselves to a clinic. The data result is only barely there, statistically speaking and is probably completely explainable by hunting for cancers that might prove benign in the small group, and waiting for people to self-report in the other. There is no model of cancer causation given, there is no consultation with an oncologist, there is no patient confidentiality, even. Not only is the neighborhood well-described, the actual names, ages, genders and ethnicities of the patients are given. This strongly confirms my initial impression that the "International Journal of Cancer Prevention" is not peer reviewed and not of journal of good repute.
Authors Ronni Wolf and Danny Wolf are identical twins who work in a Dermatology unit. They seem to write political tirades in lieu of introductory material in their articles.
http://www.dermanities.com/detail.asp?article=72
https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/prod...roducts_id=1881
The study is based on eight cancers diagnosed over a year, and this is compared to 2 cancers from patients who came in by themselves to a clinic. The data result is only barely there, statistically speaking and is probably completely explainable by hunting for cancers that might prove benign in the small group, and waiting for people to self-report in the other. There is no model of cancer causation given, there is no consultation with an oncologist, there is no patient confidentiality, even. Not only is the neighborhood well-described, the actual names, ages, genders and ethnicities of the patients are given. This strongly confirms my initial impression that the "International Journal of Cancer Prevention" is not peer reviewed and not of journal of good repute.
QUOTE (rpenner+Oct 6 2009, 09:33 PM)
That's not a good reference.
Its a VERY good report rpenner. I suspect you probably smoke cigarettes also and will tell me they don't cause cancer.
If you don't like the report , I suggest you inform the "International Journal of Cancer Prevention " of your opinion....since they are the ones who published it.
I think THEIR reputation in this matter is far beyond your personal opinion.
BTW, Thanks for proving my point that there are still PLENTY of folks (like yourself) that are in complete DENIAL about the adverse effects of cellular transmitters
Do some research and you will find there are MANY other valid and impartial reports verifying adverse health effects from cellular transmitting towers
You can start right here for more studies with references...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3773284/Health-E...Tower-Radiation
Lunar
Its a VERY good report rpenner. I suspect you probably smoke cigarettes also and will tell me they don't cause cancer.
If you don't like the report , I suggest you inform the "International Journal of Cancer Prevention " of your opinion....since they are the ones who published it.
I think THEIR reputation in this matter is far beyond your personal opinion.
BTW, Thanks for proving my point that there are still PLENTY of folks (like yourself) that are in complete DENIAL about the adverse effects of cellular transmitters
Do some research and you will find there are MANY other valid and impartial reports verifying adverse health effects from cellular transmitting towers
You can start right here for more studies with references...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3773284/Health-E...Tower-Radiation
Lunar
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