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soundhertz
Here is a fascinating article from Physorg:
Evolution in reverse: insects recover lost 'wings'
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-05-evolut...cover-lost.html
If they are right, what were once wings that disappeared, emerged again millions of years later, in forms not to fly, but apparently to do something else. The researchers' guess right now is camouflage. It may also be to frighten or deter predators, as many insects do with their eye spots, spines and horns: the treehoppers have made these appendages into various shaped structures - a fascinating observation; they are not all alike. The researchers say this is the only known example of an insect re-deploying something that had 'fallen by the wayside'. Perhaps though, they might find other examples, now that they know what it is they are seeing. Evolution is a very dynamic thing!
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Here we show that the treehopper (Membracidae) ‘helmet’ is actually an appendage, a wing serial homologue on the first thoracic segment. This innovation in the insect body plan is an unprecedented situation in 250 Myr of insect evolution. We provide evidence suggesting that the helmet arose by escaping the ancestral repression of wing formation imparted by a member of the Hox gene family, which sculpts the number and pattern of appendages along the body axis5, 6, 7, 8. Moreover, we propose that the exceptional morphological diversification of the helmet was possible because, in contrast to the wings, it escaped the stringent functional requirements imposed by flight. This example illustrates how complex morphological structures can arise by the expression of ancestral developmental potentials and fuel the morphological diversification of an evolutionary lineage.
rpenner
Neither the article nor your post explains why the direction of evolution was called "reverse".

Insects are segmented. A series of switches turns on and off for various segments. Apparently, the development of wings is strongly controlled so that it's not trivial for the genes that control building of wings to turn on, ensuring that wings form on the segments where they actually help. In one branch of the insects, these genes were co-opted to form a helmet on the head (segment one?) which seems at first glance as remarkable as a branch of humanity having four nipples, with the extra set making a giant face to scare away animals. Remarkable evolution, but I don't see the "reverse."

Evolutionary practices are not like precedents in law -- evolution is about keeping only what works in the here and now and for me and my kin. I think that this press release has been over-hyped, or "sexed up" beyond the facts.
soundhertz
rpenner, I wasn't explaining anything. I presented an article on Physorg and named it as they did. The only things I added as my own were the alternate possibility that the 'helmet' could have been 'warnings' as well as camouflage, and that now that researchers have familiarized themselves with this, they may find other examples.
I don't know why they used the term either. I just posted it as I saw it.

You are welcome to delete the thread, or change it's title. Anything, really.
Subduction Zone
"Reverse Evolution" was perhaps a poor choice for a title of the original article, but it is an interesting article none the less. It goes to show that a lot of our "garbage DNA" are old genes that have been "turned off', and could be "turned on" again in the future for another use. I don't think anyone is actually claiming that evolution is reversing itself in this instance. But of course I can guarantee you that a YEC or an IDiot will reinterpret what the article says if they run across it.
boit
The choice of the wording must have been purely a media hype calculated to capture mass attention. A journalist might help us here. Well, it did capture my attention more than if they would have written: ''Evolution, interesting observation on an insect species'' Other than being verbiage it does little to make anyone give it a second look.
Majkl
If you start with everything then the only way you can go is backwards "devolution". Thus DNA shortens and potencial "products"and their traits become more specific. Its just a hypothesis i once had. The idea came when i read about amoebas and how large their DNA is. Thus very unspecified organism with enormous potencial.
El_Machinae
While evolution does trend to 'keeping what works', it also has a variable rate at which it shucks that 'which no longer works'. The clipping out of non-productive DNA takes time, too, and so sometimes we can have reemergence of ancenstral genes in new scenarios.

It's like finding a new use for old textbooks that 'you meant to throw out' smile.gif They DO make good table legs in your modern art coffee table.
soundhertz
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If you start with everything then the only way you can go is backwards "devolution". Thus DNA shortens and potencial "products"and their traits become more specific. Its just a hypothesis i once had. The idea came when i read about amoebas and how large their DNA is. Thus very unspecified organism with enormous potencial.

The size of an organism's genome has no correlation to that organism's number of genes.
Genes that are not utilized are called 'junk'. Not meaning they are in the trash, but let's say "in the storeroom". Scientists do not allude that this is because the organism may have a future use, but if a future need arises, any of these genes are still available.
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In any case, a few caveats are in order regarding the high end of this range. First, these values for amoebae were based on rough biochemical measurements of total cellular DNA content (Friz 1968), which probably includes a significant fraction of mitochondrial DNA. The accuracy of this method is brought into question when one considers that Friz's (1968) value of 300pg for Amoeba proteus is an order of magnitude higher than those reported in subsequent studies (Byers 1986). Second, some amoebae (e.g., A. proteus) contain 500-1000 small chromosomes and are quite possibly highly polyploid (Byers 1986), in which case these values would be inappropriate for a comparison of haploid genome sizes among eukaryotes. Of course, this has little impact on the need to explain variation in genome size; it may just mean that these impressive examples will require replacement by some based on more reliable estimates."
http://www.genomesize.com/statistics.php
Polyploidy - a chromosome being duplicated, in cases over and over and over. (doesn't occur in humans but rarely, usually mistakenly).

Also, prevailing conditions, especially extremely variable ones, can greatly increase the need for precise 'turning on' of genes, for those that require such, and in this case, there is a higher chance of mutation also, unlike humans, whose mutations are usually on the spot:
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In any case, a few caveats are in order regarding the high end of this range. First, these values for amoebae were based on rough biochemical measurements of total cellular DNA content (Friz 1968), which probably includes a significant fraction of mitochondrial DNA. The accuracy of this method is brought into question when one considers that Friz's (1968) value of 300pg for Amoeba proteus is an order of magnitude higher than those reported in subsequent studies (Byers 1986). Second, some amoebae (e.g., A. proteus) contain 500-1000 small chromosomes and are quite possibly highly polyploid (Byers 1986), in which case these values would be inappropriate for a comparison of haploid genome sizes among eukaryotes. Of course, this has little impact on the need to explain variation in genome size; it may just mean that these impressive examples will require replacement by some based on more reliable estimates."
http://www.genomesize.com/statistics.php
Polyploidy - a chromosome being duplicated, in cases over and over and over. (doesn't occur in humans but rarely, usually mistakenly).

Also, prevailing conditions, especially extremely variable ones, can greatly increase the need for precise 'turning on' of genes, for those that require such, and in this case, there is a higher chance of mutation also, unlike humans, whose mutations are usually on the spot: However, under normal circumstances by far the greatest source of mutations is from endogenous mutation, notably spontaneous errors in DNA replication and repair.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK7566/

Here's a short easy read:
Why Onions Have More DNA Than You Do http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/02.10/onion.html
This publication is 11 years old, and obviously before the discovery presented by this thread.

Here's a link to ....well, I don't know if this is legit or not, but it is certainly interesting. it does have a 'crank' look to it though. If anyone can verify these people, please do so.
http://www.junkdna.com/

So there is debate over exactly what junk DNA actually is, whether it should be called that, and whether it has a real though undefined purpose. The discovery of the treehopper's re-use of junk DNA will likely mitigate our view of this subject. The term may be abandoned, but scientists do point out that 'junk' doesn't exactly mean 'garbage in the trash can'.

As a final note on this post, IDers like to present the basic bias towards a smaller genome in bacteria as proof that de-evolution exists. What they don't admit is that the first bacteria were very simple, and that there are mechanisms in place that disallow key genes to degrade or be discarded. And most importantly, the mechanism to make new genes is always present. A genome slowly streamlining itself is not a de-evolution.
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