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KKris
Guys, this no longer seems be a good discussion group. People calling names of each others.

Did you people take some time to read my last post explaining Genesis? I don't think you were able to argue against it as you had understood better than ever before.
Eric England
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Jeremy Fisher

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TheEnd
QUOTE (KKris+Feb 14 2007, 08:21 PM)
Did you people take some time to read my last post explaining Genesis?

Why? You can regurgitate the bible all you want! It will not change the fact that you have not one shred of evidence to support it!
So unless you can supply some cold hard scientific facts to support your, or the bibles assertions, quoting it or explaining it here is meaningless! (most here are already familiar with genesis)

TEOTW(AWKI)
fivedoughnut
QUOTE (Jeremy Fisher+Feb 14 2007, 07:57 PM)
5d you are mad. this is not funny.

JF etc,

If only your brain had the processing power of my antique spectrum 48k ... you'd have slightly more insight into my utterly 'sad to death' hysteria; is it just me? or does anyone else feel profoundly upset that people like Jeremy exist ..... I'm changing species! sad.gif
Eric England
Better ask the wife before you change species. Also, check the laws in your area regarding beastiality.

Does it profoundly bother me that people like Jeremy exist? Nah. Everything contains a lesson. Thank God he doesn't live next door, however. I'd have to move.

Hey Jeremy, you live in the UK. Do you want fivedoughnut's address?
fivedoughnut
QUOTE (Eric England+Feb 14 2007, 10:28 PM)
Better ask the wife before you change species. Also, check the laws in your area regarding beastiality.

Does it profoundly bother me that people like Jeremy exist? Nah. Everything contains a lesson. Thank God he doesn't live next door, however. I'd have to move.

Hey Jeremy, you live in the UK. Do you want fivedoughnut's address?

laugh.gif ..... ok, my faith in homo-sapien is restored!
N O M
QUOTE (KKris+Feb 14 2007, 08:19 AM)
Hey! Mr. Alpha, you think computers are accurate. Ask a person who designs computers he/she will say that computers have several numerical errors/approximations especially when it comes for decimal numbers.

OK! open a new document in Ms-Word and type the following and press the enter button.

=rand(20,200)

That flaw which you see will work for some other numbers as well.

This isn't an error. It has been deliberately coded into the program. Microsoft programs are renown for including little surprises, but it is not unique. Such things are known as Easter Eggs. Most are just clever little jokes sneeked in by bored programmers.
They have very little effect on how a program works.
Eric England
QUOTE (fivedoughnut+Feb 14 2007, 03:31 PM)
laugh.gif ..... ok, my faith in homo-sapien is restored!

I thought it might be. laugh.gif

A loving thank you note from your wife would be nice. wink.gif

P.S: It's "hetero-sapien". Get a grip. Oops, "hetero" means other than carbon based. Sorry.
KKris
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Why? You can regurgitate the bible all you want! It will not change the fact that you have not one shred of evidence to support it!


biggrin.gif laugh.gif as if there is evidence for your evolution stupidity.

Is that you or science that can't answer this question? Where did the first atom come from???

Humans are caught in the world of ego. Ego against God too. Though their knowledge is very very miniature size to the truth of this Universe, humans always pretend to be better than or higher than anything else. Always dwell with false ego and fail to identify the truth.

I'm really tired of arguing with you people anymore. But I'm sure your heart will seek GOD when you are in a great trouble (like natural disasters). Or else, you will atleast sit and curse Him during your troubled times. Or who knows?! you might even surrender to Him!

Let God be with us all, all the time!!!

I'm not interested with this discussion because you people are prejudice about religion. Who named religion? was there any fight against religions before the British invasion on other countries? Greed and desires of men falsified the religious scriptures. Before that, there was only one understanding about GOD and it was called 'Eternal' or 'Catholic' but later the desires of some greedy men named religion and divided people in the world.

I explained Genesis by cross referencing other religious scriptures as well not just bible. I don't think you can have any better interpretation than what I have said. Time will tell you the truth!
gmilam
QUOTE (KKris+Feb 14 2007, 08:57 PM)
Is that you or science that can't answer this question? Where did the first atom come from???

And you can't explain where God came from.

At least we can prove atoms exist.
Nick
The beauty is this universe is going to go on forever. tongue.gif
SIP
Ya gmilam pretty much owns you on that point kkris your just declaring things by fiat now things that don't even need to be added to the universe. So your the one adding something, the burden of proof is on you not us. Talk about a big ego.
Grumpy
KKris

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Where did the first atom come from???


E=MC^2. And all the other atoms came from the same relationship between energy and matter.

Ant other physics questions before you go???

If not, goodbye.

Grumpy cool.gif
gmilam
QUOTE (Nick+Feb 14 2007, 09:05 PM)
The beauty is this universe is going to go on forever. tongue.gif

Something we can agree on! I better mark this day on my calendar.
Nick
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Where did the first atom come from?

I believe the Big Bang energy started from ZERO and BUILT UP. I believe the energy that started it all was Dark Energy and not Light because for every particle created by light there is an anti particle created. These then would imediately anihalate back into light. A process going nowhere.

Dark Energy gave birth to the first quantum fluctuation. But this quantum fluctuation was one sided. It only produced matter. Therefor the matter stuck. In other words that quantum fluctuation produced matter permanently. Since there were no anti particles the fluctuation was not a creator of virtual particles as are the quantum fluctuations of now.

MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FALLS --
TheEnd
QUOTE (KKris+Feb 15 2007, 02:57 AM)

biggrin.gif  laugh.gif  as if there is evidence for your evolution stupidity.

Is that you or science that can't answer this question? Where did the first atom come from???

Still no evidence!!! Just ludacris statements demonstrating your ignorance of science and your blind obedience toward your fairy tail god! Typical!

TEOTW(AWKI)
Eric England
I dated a chimpanze for a few months. We had a really good time. Couldn't get her to commit though. Just too wild I guess.
kaneda
QUOTE (KKris+Feb 15 2007, 02:57 AM)
Is that you or science that can't answer this question? Where did the first atom come from???

We can only speculate and make educated guesses.

A thousand years ago if someone had said that we do not float off into the air because invisible demons are holding us down, would that explanation have been true because we did not know about gravitational attraction between masses?

The fact that we don't know how everything began does not mean an equally ludicrous explanation (god), is valid.
Jeremy Fisher
QUOTE (kaneda+Feb 15 2007, 05:58 AM)
We can only speculate and make educated guesses.

A thousand years ago if someone had said that we do not float off into the air because invisible demons are holding us down, would that explanation have been true because we did not know about gravitational attraction between masses?

The fact that we don't know how everything began does not mean an equally ludicrous explanation (god), is valid.

unwise monkey mad.gif you have big gap between ears bozo laugh.gif
Jeremy Fisher
QUOTE (gmilam+Feb 15 2007, 03:01 AM)
And you can't explain where God came from.

At least we can prove atoms exist.

ha, God has always been here, atom is sceintific misunderstanding of Gods creation!
Nick
What's interesting jeremy is that before the universe there was no "here." But God existed anyway. I believe this is the one and only universe. And always will be.
Jeremy Fisher
QUOTE (KKris+Feb 15 2007, 02:57 AM)

biggrin.gif laugh.gif as if there is evidence for your evolution stupidity.

Is that you or science that can't answer this question? Where did the first atom come from???

Humans are caught in the world of ego. Ego against God too. Though their knowledge is very very miniature size to the truth of this Universe, humans always pretend to be better than or higher than anything else. Always dwell with false ego and fail to identify the truth.

I'm really tired of arguing with you people anymore. But I'm sure your heart will seek GOD when you are in a great trouble (like natural disasters). Or else, you will atleast sit and curse Him during your troubled times. Or who knows?! you might even surrender to Him!

Let God be with us all, all the time!!!

I'm not interested with this discussion because you people are prejudice about religion. Who named religion? was there any fight against religions before the British invasion on other countries? Greed and desires of men falsified the religious scriptures. Before that, there was only one understanding about GOD and it was called 'Eternal' or 'Catholic' but later the desires of some greedy men named religion and divided people in the world.

I explained Genesis by cross referencing other religious scriptures as well not just bible. I don't think you can have any better interpretation than what I have said. Time will tell you the truth!

at last a cry of sense. you are great KKris. you evans and derek and mike are crusaders in fight against stupidity and intolerence. biggrin.gif
Eric England
Jeremy,

Instead of reading the Bible, why don't you think about what it means to be a Christian.

So far, you're doing a worse than piss poor job of it. One of the worst I've ever witnessed.

You've got some real issues. I love the way the English pronounce "issues".

Have you ever heard of the "Crusades"?

Sheez, why am I wasting my time. I must be as stupid as you are, but at least I'm not hateful.

I think banishment is too good for you. I'm sending you a "hair shirt" in the mail.

By the way, how old is your sister? She sounds like she has a sense of humor. Is she good looking? Does she... oh, never mind.

Eric

PS: if you're in a fight against intolerance, then just be careful where you punch yourself.
kaneda
Jeremy Fisher. "Crusaders" is not a word many christians and even more muslims like to hear. There were nine crusades where christians attacked peaceful muslim countries who welcomed strangers. Christians were forced to go to war by a succession of EVIL popes with the threat of excommunication if they did not (worse than leprosy in those days). When Lords and servants left for the Holy Lands, the church went back on promises and seized (stole) their castles and lands which is how the church became so rich.

The best known crusader was Richard the Lionheart. More than friendly with sheep and dogs as well as little boys, this so-called English king spent only six months of his ten year reign in England. Caught and imprisoned in Europe, it cost one and a half times the annual income of the country to get this ***** released. Poor old Prince John got a bad reputation because he had to levy huge taxes to pay for idiot Richard's wild escapades.

Despite all the slaughters, rape and plundering of the innocents of the muslim countries, the worst Crusade was the Children's Crusade where the EVIL church used children to fight for them, then sold them into muslim slavery at the end of the crusade.
N O M
QUOTE (Jeremy Fisher+Feb 16 2007, 11:11 AM)
at last a cry of sense. you are great KKris. you evans and derek and mike are crusaders in fight against stupidity and intolerence. biggrin.gif

Speaking of Mike, where is your "brave" little friend?
TheEnd
QUOTE (Jeremy Fisher+Feb 15 2007, 10:11 PM)
at last a cry of sense. you are great KKris. you evans and derek and mike are crusaders in fight against stupidity and intolerence.  biggrin.gif

Funny that you use the word intolerance in a discussion concerning religion!
Religions trend to be the least tolerant of others! For reference see: The crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, The current Middle East state of affairs... The list is long and bloody!

TEOTW(AWKI)
SENT
I didn't think the nut-house had an internet connection, and I CERTAINLY didn't think they'd use it for a physics forum.

KKris, evans, derek, mike ...

Mike
Evans
Derek
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KKris
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Where's the other three? I bet Paulo knows laugh.gif
Issachar
I thought this post was worthy of bringing a classic back from the archives:
However, I had trouble adding the picture by itself so the link will get you to the narrative as well.
Click:
Evolution Protesters Spoof

Note: that article was intended as pure satire, from a comical site, but I figured you all could enjoy a good laugh. laugh.gif

Jeremy,
Science is not really a form of devil worship, it is more of group of methods for solving a particular kind of problem. Science is not just a list of facts or theories, it is a way to understand the natural world by observing, experimenting, and then attempting to find cause and effect relationships. Scientists long to understand more than what we already know about this complex and intricately connected world we live in. A good scientist knows we have few of the answers, and then sets out to at least try to ask the right questions so that we can learn more about how things work, and how this wildly diverse world fits together.

Through the ages, many people have denied certain facts of nature because those facts did not fit into the belief system that they desired to hold to. Both Christians and atheists are commonly guilty of this error. It should be obvious that any Christian who believes that God is the ordainer and framer of this world, and that God is the initiator of all logic and scientific thought, should never take such a position. If you believe that God created the world we live in, then why not be interested in exploring it? If you don't, its still an excellent profession. wink.gif



Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue. I added, We have all been both! tongue.gif
kaneda
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