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Enthalpy
Hi everybody!
An idea I've had to promote growth for vegetables, crop etc...

In moderately warm and sunny countries, some vegetables grow badly or late. The idea would be to concentrate solar light a bit on these vegetables by using mirrors that would also reduce light for other plants that require dimmer light.

I imagine fields organized in stripes, East-West, alternating stripes of light-loving plants with light-shy ones, and mirrors between them.

Being East-West, the mirrors just need to be tilted (one single rotation) to compensate only the Sun's height.

Glass is probably too expensive, heavy, fragile. I imagine steel plates, say 3m by 6m, reinforced by forming the rear one in a press and soldering it electrically to the flat front one, like a car door is made. Chromium plating would make it reflective and corrosion free.

To make the mirror somewhat transparent, I would punch many small holes (with one big hydraulic press as usual) in the metal. Small enough to let diffraction as well as the Sun's diameter create a uniform illumination behind the mirror.

Another benefit would be that plants become light from opposite directions. Strawberries and tomatoes would be ripe on both sides at the same time, that's fine!

OK, that was it. Sorry for interrupting you. Bye!
Sapo
I had the thought as well. My difference was to use aluminized mylar sheets with wind vents, on a framework of light tubular material. Two clock drives could control the altitude and azimuth, like a telescope mount.

Great minds think alike, eh? laugh.gif
El_Machinae
You could also grow the 'high sunlight' plants overtop the 'low sunlight' plants, and allow the upper plants to provide shade.

Though it seems crazy expensive to implement.
Sapo
"Space Blankets" and old umbrellas, plus a couple of bicycle hulks? How about a barrel-fed water clock to drive the gear train and water the garden as well?
N O M
QUOTE (El_Machinae+Feb 14 2008, 04:42 AM)
You could also grow the 'high sunlight' plants overtop the 'low sunlight' plants, and allow the upper plants to provide shade.

Though it seems crazy expensive to implement.

Forests do this for free.
Sapo
QUOTE (N O M+Feb 13 2008, 07:43 PM)
Forests do this for free.

QUOTE (Euell Gibbons+)
Did you ever eat a Pine tree?


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Enthalpy
Yes, tall trees give shadow for free. This is how coffee is produced.

But our preferred light-loving plants are rather small: tomatoes, strawberries etc. And I believe to see advantages in concentrating sunlight for these plants, at least at, say, 45° to 60° latitude.

As for the suntracking actuator: In the case of steel sheets of 1mm thickness each, the steel for one single 3m*6m mirror already costs over 300 euros, so an electric motor +sensor +centralized control are cheap enough.

However, mirror costs of 170.000 euros for 10.000m2 look unbearable for any food production. OK, bad idea.
N O M
Bring on Genetic Modification cool.gif
El_Machinae
Grow the tomatoes in trees?
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adoucette
QUOTE (Enthalpy+Feb 12 2008, 07:04 PM)
Hi everybody!
An idea I've had to promote growth for vegetables, crop etc...

In moderately warm and sunny countries, some vegetables grow badly or late.

I think you might be jumping to conclusions.
There are a number of factors that affect plant growth and intensity of sunlight is just one of many, ground temp, day length, night temps etc are also important.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...5US235%26sa%3DN

Arthur
dougie_fresh_007
i recomend mylar w bars on each end for rigidity but as previously posted other parameters r justas important
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