Electrochemistry cut off experiments and absurdity of modern science….
Due to a lot of advantages, mainly the low cost of materials and simplicity of design, electrochemistry is becoming a preferred field for new proposed cut off experiments.
The first cut off experiment relates a battery for which both electrodes (cathode and anode) undergo an oxidation reaction. It consists simply in an electrode of Zn and an electrode of Fe dipped into a solution of sulfuric acid. Both electrodes are oxidized and bubbles of hydrogen are visible with naked eyes at both electrodes and supplementary an analytical procedure can detect Fe and Zn species in solution. For those specialists with ,,seeing problems” a detailed photo with gas bubbling is provided. A common ammeter connected between these electrodes is able to detect an electric current with a size related to the area of electrodes immersed into solution. I think it is the simplest experiment ever designed which rule out actual modern science. The cost of experiment: about 1 euro. Of course, other couple of reactive metals or other electrolytes can be used with the same results.
The myth of simultaneously oxidation at one electrode and reduction to opposite electrode fall down. The oxidation state is supplementary ruled out as being useless and artificially introduced in science.
Second experiment reload the old Volta pile, the first battery ever build. All ,,serious” scientific texts remind it only as a curiosity without any detail for a very simple reason: there is no explanation for it. It is not clear why salt brine increase the current furnished by a couple of Zn and Cu electrodes, when no reaction takes place between salt and these metals.
The link:
http://www.elkadot.com/en/physical-chemist...lectrochemistry cut off experiments.htm
The site changed toward a multilanguage structure so the old links will give some accessing errors. The site will be available in Romanian and French in short time. The version in Romanian will be the most trustfully because it will be verified by me personally. For other translations some language errors are possible because the translations are made by amateurs.
I am searching for persons willing to help me to translate the site into German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hindi, etc.
Contact email: sorincosofret@yahoo.com
Best regards,
Sorin Cosofret
QUOTE (Sorin+Apr 13 2010, 02:17 AM)
The first cut off experiment relates a battery for which both electrodes (cathode and anode) undergo an oxidation reaction. It consists simply in an electrode of Zn and an electrode of Fe dipped into a solution of sulfuric acid. Both electrodes are oxidized and bubbles of hydrogen are visible...
How would the battery work if you have oxidation at both the anode and cathode? Where would the potential be created?
Regards,
Caleb
How would the battery work if you have oxidation at both the anode and cathode? Where would the potential be created?
Regards,
Caleb
QUOTE (calebthechemist+Apr 13 2010, 03:37 AM)
How would the battery work if you have oxidation at both the anode and cathode? Where would the potential be created?
Regards,
Caleb
Hi Caleb,
I think it is more interesting to make a repetition of the experiment and to convince yourself about the reality. Or maybe about a hidden reality....
Of course it is not so simple to explain here the basement of a entire new theory of electromagnetism.
The problem is not only actual electromagnetism and chemistry are completely imaginary description of reality ....other fields of physics have the same problems.
If you don't have a explanation yet for your question you should ask all your referee or editors at chemistry and physics journals (with a IF greater then 1).
You should ask your chemistry academies ...
You should ask IUPAC or other etc...
You should ask even 50% of forum discussion who banned me as crazy, mad etc.
Now I'm enjoying designing low cost experiments and I'm sure the situation will change soon ...
Regards,
Sorin
Regards,
Caleb
Hi Caleb,
I think it is more interesting to make a repetition of the experiment and to convince yourself about the reality. Or maybe about a hidden reality....
Of course it is not so simple to explain here the basement of a entire new theory of electromagnetism.
The problem is not only actual electromagnetism and chemistry are completely imaginary description of reality ....other fields of physics have the same problems.
If you don't have a explanation yet for your question you should ask all your referee or editors at chemistry and physics journals (with a IF greater then 1).
You should ask your chemistry academies ...
You should ask IUPAC or other etc...
You should ask even 50% of forum discussion who banned me as crazy, mad etc.
Now I'm enjoying designing low cost experiments and I'm sure the situation will change soon ...
Regards,
Sorin
So you admit you are crazy? Just checking...
? i cannot see how you can have an electric potential without an anode and a cathode where oxidation/reduction takes place.
I'll repeat here what I've said elsewhere in response to this exact same post on other fora.
First clue:
Lovely Katty Never Can Manage A Zebra For She Punishes Him Cruelly with Mercury Silver and Gold.
A Mnemonic to remember the following series:
Li K Na Ca Mg Al Zn Fe Sn Pb H Cu Hg Ag Au.
Here's a second clue.
Did you know that if you take a Zinc electrode and a Carbon Electrode, and connect a wire between them, with an ammeter in series, you will measure a current, and hydrogen gas will be given off at the Carbon electrode, and the Zinc electrode will corrode?
First clue:
Lovely Katty Never Can Manage A Zebra For She Punishes Him Cruelly with Mercury Silver and Gold.
A Mnemonic to remember the following series:
Li K Na Ca Mg Al Zn Fe Sn Pb H Cu Hg Ag Au.
Here's a second clue.
Did you know that if you take a Zinc electrode and a Carbon Electrode, and connect a wire between them, with an ammeter in series, you will measure a current, and hydrogen gas will be given off at the Carbon electrode, and the Zinc electrode will corrode?
QUOTE (Trippy+Apr 15 2010, 12:40 AM)
Lovely Katty Never Can Manage A Zebra For She Punishes Him Cruelly with Mercury Silver and Gold.
You do realize that sentence still makes more sense than anything Sorin has written thus far?
You do realize that sentence still makes more sense than anything Sorin has written thus far?
QUOTE (calebthechemist+Apr 15 2010, 05:28 PM)
You do realize that sentence still makes more sense than anything Sorin has written thus far?
Yup.
Yup.
QUOTE (Trippy+Apr 15 2010, 12:40 AM)
I'll repeat here what I've said elsewhere in response to this exact same post on other fora.
First clue:
Lovely Katty Never Can Manage A Zebra For She Punishes Him Cruelly with Mercury Silver and Gold.
A Mnemonic to remember the following series:
Li K Na Ca Mg Al Zn Fe Sn Pb H Cu Hg Ag Au.
Here's a second clue.
Did you know that if you take a Zinc electrode and a Carbon Electrode, and connect a wire between them, with an ammeter in series, you will measure a current, and hydrogen gas will be given off at the Carbon electrode, and the Zinc electrode will corrode?
And we haven't even touched the electrochemistry of PGM's which are so usefull in developing fuel cells capable of detection of toxic gases.
Sorin looks like he is c&ping from a basic textbook and adding electromagnetism to the soup.
"Fora", get you!
First clue:
Lovely Katty Never Can Manage A Zebra For She Punishes Him Cruelly with Mercury Silver and Gold.
A Mnemonic to remember the following series:
Li K Na Ca Mg Al Zn Fe Sn Pb H Cu Hg Ag Au.
Here's a second clue.
Did you know that if you take a Zinc electrode and a Carbon Electrode, and connect a wire between them, with an ammeter in series, you will measure a current, and hydrogen gas will be given off at the Carbon electrode, and the Zinc electrode will corrode?
And we haven't even touched the electrochemistry of PGM's which are so usefull in developing fuel cells capable of detection of toxic gases.
Sorin looks like he is c&ping from a basic textbook and adding electromagnetism to the soup.
"Fora", get you!
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