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Zarkov
I do not mind established theories.....

LOL, but critical discussion might show they are a load

So WHY were such structures built ?
adoucette
This is more complex than you imagine..... easy, but it involves a lot of theory/formulations I am not willing to be made public.

Arthur
N O M
Thank you for secretly sharing your pyramid theory/formulations with me Arthur. I agree with you that they should not be shared with Zerkoff, who would prostitute such ideas.
TheDoc
QUOTE (N O M+Mar 21 2008, 02:16 AM)
Thank you for secretly sharing your pyramid theory/formulations with me Arthur. I agree with you that they should not be shared with Zerkoff, who would prostitute such ideas.

I wholeheartedly agree. Zarkov would sell these formulas to the highest bidder, he is so hopelessly blinded by his own greed and insanity! mad.gif
adoucette
QUOTE (N O M+Mar 20 2008, 09:16 PM)
Thank you for secretly sharing your pyramid theory/formulations with me Arthur. I agree with you that they should not be shared with Zerkoff, who would prostitute such ideas.

Sheesh NOM,

Now EVERYONE will want my SUPER SECRET formulations.

Ok, ok,

For anyone who wants them go to my site: www.ZarkovisaTroll.com
Arthur

Zarkov
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This is more complex than you imagine..... easy, but it involves a lot of theory/formulations I am not willing to be made public.



mmmh, are you privy to the secrets of the High Priests too....

whisper the sign to me... and prove it

it starts with H too......

LOL
DuzmA
The first answer that we have all been armed with is that they were built as tombs, but the small number of hieroglyphs in the general structures makes me wonder about that. I am interested to know your take? I think they probably had much more religious significance than simple tombs, though I haven't researched them in acute detail in some time.
TheDoc
QUOTE (DuzmA+Mar 21 2008, 07:58 PM)
The first answer that we have all been armed with is that they were built as tombs, but the small number of hieroglyphs in the general structures makes me wonder about that. I am interested to know your take? I think they probably had much more religious significance than simple tombs, though I haven't researched them in acute detail in some time.

Completely incorrect. They were originally built as indoor soccer stadiums.

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DuzmA
I think the big one was the only soccer stadium. The other two were probably for sand hockey=p
TheDoc
QUOTE (DuzmA+Mar 21 2008, 08:42 PM)
I think the big one was the only soccer stadium. The other two were probably for sand hockey=p

I hear that the sand hockey pyramids also doubled as tennis venues unsure.gif
Zarkov
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simple tombs


no

They were machines with no moving parts

An absolute credit to the INTELLIGENCE of the Ancients.

LOL U say,,,, shows your lack of intelligence

if you were there then you would have died

whereas they lived. laugh.gif
TheDoc
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
no

They were machines with no moving parts


Whatever you say, Zarkov.

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LOL U say,,,, shows your lack of intelligence


You've got it the wrong way around, bozo.

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LOL U say,,,, shows your lack of intelligence


You've got it the wrong way around, bozo.

if you were there then you would have died

whereas they lived.  laugh.gif


Care to prove that?
Eric England
They were built to make a "point".
DuzmA
Zarkov you took the phrase 'simple tombs; out of context.

I lost your post after the machine reference, I don't know what 'LOL U say,,,, shows your lack of intelligence' is in reference to or who it is directed towards.

I also don't know how you can make so bold a claim as who would have lived or died.

You are not far away from nonsense here.
TheDoc
QUOTE (DuzmA+)
You are not far away from nonsense here.


You're assertions seem quite correct - but then again, Zarkov isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
"THEY"
QUOTE (Eric England+Mar 21 2008, 02:32 PM)
They were built to make a "point".

You made me laugh out loud Eric!
xtrmn8r
Why Ask Why the Pyramids Were Built?

http://wrt-intertext.syr.edu/I2/graeff.html
Sapo
QUOTE (TheDoc+Mar 21 2008, 04:50 PM)
QUOTE (DuzmA+)
You are not far away from nonsense here.


You're assertions seem quite correct - but then again, Zarkov isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

Therefore the 'point' will be missed. sad.gif
Zarkov
Duzma... sorry, I just took "simple tombs"... as a starting POINT

I was not referring to your post sad.gif

Xtrmn8r nice link
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why any of the thirty or so pyramids were built


and never a "mummy" found inside to even suggest they were tombs.... in fact nothing was found inside those that had an inside to find.

Human beings are always jumping to silly conclusions.... never looking for "intelligent" answers.

Other people of this world also piled stones on top of each other.

There is a very rational reason why "intelligent" people did this, and it wasn't for fun

It was to prevent their early death.

Oh the mystery...

All the clues have been given

Now go for it Sherlock!! biggrin.gif
TheDoc
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 21 2008, 10:59 PM)
<snip>

I thought you left! You stinkin' liar! mad.gif
Zarkov
from link supplied

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Another theory that does not seem worth pursuing is that there is a historical connection between the Egyptian Pyramids and the pyramids of South America and Mesopotamia as well as rudimentary pyramids found in North America and Britain.


This claim is erroneous... this line is a very worthwhile investigation,,,,,
however the Egyptian excelled in their construction, their conception and their "secrecy"

High Priests like "magic"... especially reliable "magic".... LOL = science.


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Another theory that does not seem worth pursuing is that there is a historical connection between the Egyptian Pyramids and the pyramids of South America and Mesopotamia as well as rudimentary pyramids found in North America and Britain.


This claim is erroneous... this line is a very worthwhile investigation,,,,,
however the Egyptian excelled in their construction, their conception and their "secrecy"

High Priests like "magic"... especially reliable "magic".... LOL = science.


The function and form of the Egyptian pyramids as a tomb is a clear case


LOL, as I said there is absolutely no reason to believe this... except that it is "a simple thought".

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The Great Pyramid has by far the most complex system of passageways and "vents" that ascend, descend, and run straight as well as a system of chambers.


more clues. cool.gif

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The Great Pyramid has by far the most complex system of passageways and "vents" that ascend, descend, and run straight as well as a system of chambers.


more clues. cool.gif

The use of stone was critical


mandatory, for a machine with no moving parts to work forever

however today it has been broken.... ignorance has destroyed the workings..the "magic" is lost and it now sits as a if a monolith on the Moon !!!!!

LOL... Arthur C Clarke, we will miss you sad.gif
TheDoc
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
LOL, as I said there is absolutely no reason to believe this... except that it is "a simple thought".


What?! They FOUND the mummies INSIDE the pyramids, you idiot! Of course they were meant as tombs!

Zarkov
for the benefit of readers.... troll such as the above, really have no information or knowledge, they live in a world of sucking with no thought... great Chinese whisperers

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They FOUND the mummies INSIDE the pyramids


never has a "mummy" been found in a pyramid !

TheDoc
QUOTE (paul h+Mar 22 2008, 12:01 AM)
Zarkov
from Paul h link

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>>The grave  >>
>> the area is "one gigantic cemetery" >>

>>  the newly found funerary chamber >>>


First, this report is not from Egypt
second, this is a very late addition by whoever to something that had lost its purpose by then

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>>The grave  >>
>> the area is "one gigantic cemetery" >>

>>  the newly found funerary chamber >>>


First, this report is not from Egypt
second, this is a very late addition by whoever to something that had lost its purpose by then

The culture of the Moche, who constructed the largest adobe pyramid in the Americas, the Moche Sun Pyramid, developed along Peru's northern coast near what is now the country's third-largest city Trujillo. It flourished in the river valley oases from 100 A.D. to 800 A.D. The Lady of Cao dates to 450 A.D.


so thanks for the link, very interesting, but not it does not add to the discussion.

If I have to be pedantic... the topic is Egyptian Pyramids... There have been no Egyptian mummies found in Egyptian pyramids...
paul h
> There have been no Egyptian mummies found in Egyptian pyramids...

click the second link
TheDoc
Edit.
Zarkov
last link paul h supplied is very sketchy

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a four metre (13 feet) long stone "coffin"


conjecture in Monday, 3 April, 2000

mmh, no newer revelations....

But thanks, keep looking cool.gif
TheDoc
I find this whole thread incredibly amusing. I say "mummies were found in the pyramids", Zarkov says no, paul h backs me up, Zarkov denies it and says to "keep looking", and then vkamath posts three separate links to examples of mummies in pyramids. Brilliant! laugh.gif
paul h
how much more proof do you need ,,, well OK here's one more.

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Travel/Egypt...mids/index.html


quote:
The bones of both queen Aat and his second consort, who might have been Neferuptah, were found in their burial chambers - however, despite the presence of a sarcophagus in the king's burial chamber, it seems that he was buried at another pyramid he built, at Hawara.
Zarkov
first link

>> considered to be a substitute coffin >>

second vague

These "pits" had another purpose than what is conjectured in the link

third

Ah yes the GREAT Pyramid.. magnificent

>> The sarcophagus of the King's chamber was hollowed out of a single piece of Red Aswan granite and has been found to be too large to fit through the passageway leading to the King's chamber. Whether the sarcophagus was ever intended to house a body is unknown, but it is too short to accommodate a medium height individual without the bending of the knees (a technique not practiced in Egyptian burial) and no lid was ever found. >>>

LOL, this is not a "sarcophagus for dead people !!!!!!! LOL

keep looking.... this is a lovely subject for research and deep thought
cool.gif ph34r.gif
xtrmn8r
Information on every pyramid in Egypt. Happy reading rolleyes.gif

http://www.crystalinks.com/egyptpyrindex.html
DuzmA
Crystalinks ruins my day every time I am reminded of its existence.

On a happier note: I do agree that the pyramids and ancient Egypt in general are very fascinating topics for study.
vkamath
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 22 2008, 12:37 AM)
keep looking.... this is a lovely subject for research and deep thought
cool.gif ph34r.gif

Yes, keep denying reality. That will do you a whole lot of "good".

You just love the attention, don't you?
Zarkov
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The bones of both queen Aat and his second consort, who might have been Neferuptah, were found in their burial chambers - however, despite the presence of a sarcophagus in the king's burial chamber, it seems that he was buried at another pyramid he built, at Hawara.


yes, well that is one example of a secondary use for ?mommy? preservation in a very primitive mud construction.

Ok, keep looking
tongue.gif
xtrmn8r
DuzmA

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  Crystalinks ruins my day every time I am reminded of its existence.


I'm curious, what do you have against Ellie Crystal?

paul h
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 21 2008, 08:41 PM)

yes, well that is one example of a secondary use for ?mommy? preservation in a very primitive mud construction.

Ok, keep looking
tongue.gif

>never has a "mummy" been found in a pyramid !
>yes, well that is one example of a secondary use for ?

I'll accept that as point taken.
TheDoc
Okay, I think t's time to get this message through.

Zarkov is an attention-loving, reality-denying ignorant troll who just wants you to respond to him. He DOES NOT CARE if you prove him wrong. HE DOES NOT CARE if you provide dozens of sources to counter his inane ramblings. He is a liar and an attention seeker, who wants to wind you up just for the sake of it.

JUST. IGNORE. HIM.
paul h
OK, OK I get it. don't feed the bears
DuzmA
QUOTE (xtrmn8r+Mar 22 2008, 12:49 AM)




I'm curious, what do you have against Ellie Crystal?

She is a charlatan just like John Edward and the rest of the cold reading bigotry that prey on people's hopes and fears. Ellie is not as bad as Edward in my opinion, I have considered the fact that she may simply be crazy but I still lean towards her being a predator. Ellie is a hypnotherapist or some such isn't she? I could have her confused with someone else. The whole wacky spiritual babble that she goes into makes my skin crawl, and her ideas about prophecy and other things are truly absurd. Need I go on?
xtrmn8r
DuzmA

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QUOTE (xtrmn8r @ Mar 22 2008, 12:49 AM)




I'm curious, what do you have against Ellie Crystal? 


She is a charlatan just like John Edward and the rest of the cold reading bigotry that prey on people's hopes and fears. Ellie is not as bad as Edward in my opinion, I have considered the fact that she may simply be crazy but I still lean towards her being a predator. Ellie is a hypnotherapist or some such isn't she? I could have her confused with someone else. The whole wacky spiritual babble that she goes into makes my skin crawl, and her ideas about prophecy and other things are truly absurd. Need I go on?


I mostly agree. I do have issues with Ellies' pseudo-sciences, but as I've said before, I have found no problems with her links, especially on subjects as this.

Sorry for the detour from the topic at hand...carry on!!

Zarkov
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I'll accept that as point taken.


LOL, err, NO!!!

If the Egyptian Pyramids were tombs, LOL...as if

they why aren't they all full of stiffs ???

They often have shafts and rooms... for ghosts ??? LOL

keep thinking blink.gif
TheDoc
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
LOL, err, NO!!!


LOL, err, YES!!! Get your facts straight, or shut up. And please, don't be surprised if no one responds to you after this.

smile.gif
Username
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 22 2008, 02:23 AM)
keep thinking

Yes we all keep thinking you're a prize wally.
Zarkov
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And please, don't be surprised if no one responds to you after this.


BLISS

I don't need such attention... I am just a messenger.... I am complete in myself cool.gif
Username
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 22 2008, 02:43 AM)

BLISS

I don't need such attention... I am just a messenger.... I am complete in myself cool.gif

Yes we know you're a complete deranged buffoon from planet gone.
TheDoc
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
I don't need such attention...


So why'd you start this thread?

Or are you just lying again?
Zarkov
well it looks like the only reason given for why the Egyptian pyramids were built is to house "mummies"

even though no mummies are to be found.... err except a few bones in a mud hill most probably built by wanna-bees.... certainly the structure was not part of the high priest's precinct.


Well if the accepted explanation suits y'all, so be it

But I can assure you the stone pyramids were definitely built for another reason, one far more scientific and practical....... which appeared as if achieved by magic to the common citizen.





DuzmA
I stated that I thought they probebly carried a religious significance. I admit to not being up on the current theories/research surrounding their existance. Basically I cannot claim to know, or even to have a good idea about their true purpose.

What is your theory Zarkov?
Zarkov
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What is your theory Zarkov?


I laid out clues in a few of my opening posts... I did think the forum might like an investigation, where all the facts could be laid on the table... and theories produced that could be bounced off facts.... both factual, practical and "most likely"

A really GOOD and scientific exercise.... but due to a lack of interest created by forum pollution numbing everyone's brains...... SO

If you want the answer in a nutshell it is H2O [ this is the What ]

So now HOW is the task !!!!!

and maybe if you have an interest

The Why is also interesting.
paul h
OK Here's your marshmallow,,,,

WHY?
BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 24 2008, 05:48 PM)
even though no mummies are to be found.... err except a few bones in a mud hill most probably built by wanna-bees.... certainly the structure was not part of the high priest's precinct.

Dude, you're... You're...
Dear god...

Well, I guess "You're wrong," is the easiest way to put it...
TheDoc
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+Mar 24 2008, 11:48 PM)
Dude, you're... You're...
Dear god...

Well, I guess "You're wrong," is the easiest way to put it...

'You're an ignorant, insane, delusional, paranoid, pathetic, reality-denying wacko."

Think that'll get the message through?
N O M
There is no mystery about why or how the pyramids were built. There are clear records kept both within the pyramids, other burial chambers. Added to this are a huge number of clay tablets left by the people who built them. We know they were free people, rather than slaves. They were well educated, as evidenced by the fact that most could read.

The pyramids were built as tombs, there is no room for debate there. There is documented evidence that the bodies and treasures were later removed.
We know the people who built the pyramids believed in the afterlife. We know they belived that the pyramids would aid their rulers in their trip to the afterlife.

So what is to discuss? Why should we expect that Zerkoff has some secret supply of enlightenment that he is conveniently refusing to share? He has demonstrated on several other threads that he knows very little about anything at all, so why would this be any different?
Zarkov
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So what is to discuss?
there is no room for debate



good and thank you for your opinion,,, there is nothing I wish to discuss with the troll quad-clique... so why not just leave as you have come and go back to your sandpit.

Nice to see your back !!!
























going biggrin.gif

LOL
TheDoc
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
good and thank you for your opinion,,, there is nothing I wish to discuss with the troll quad-clique...


...But then again you don't want to discuss anything with anyone who has proven you wrong. So what's the difference?

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so why not just leave as you have come and go back to your sandpit.


Sorry bub, we're not going anywhere tongue.gif

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so why not just leave as you have come and go back to your sandpit.


Sorry bub, we're not going anywhere tongue.gif

Nice to see your back !!!


His back what? Back end? Back hair? Back what?
DuzmA
http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/84729-0/
Zarkov
thanks Duzma

yes I have seen this nut... almost correct... but then again it is entirely incorrect....

The water the Egyptian pyramids made was pure, almost distilled.... and that water came from thin air.

The Nile water was no use for drinking... only good for crops and they had enough for crops.

No the "Egyptians ?" who conceived, built and operated the pyramids were grand masters..... the morons that came later destroyed them

just typical
TheDoc
QUOTE (Zarkov+)

The water the Egyptian pyramids made was pure, almost distilled.... and that water came from thin air.

The Nile water was no use for drinking... only good for crops and they had enough for crops.


Prove it

Prove it

Prove it

Prove it

Prove it

Prove it

Prove it
Zarkov
My assertions are easy to prove...from written observations of the time, from Egyptian religious writings, to microbiological principles and to the elite's shear need to survive.

But the thermodynamic principles are far too hard for a lay person, such as you, to grasp.

Too bad, the Egyptian Pyramids are a true pinnacle of engineering.... far greater in conception, design and construction.... than any "human" feat since

The concepts go way over modern logic as is evidenced by the really childish claims that they were tombs for single parents..... LOL

Earthlings, you do not even know your past unsure.gif blink.gif
TheDoc
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
My assertions are easy to prove...


Then do so.

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But the thermodynamic principles are far too hard for a lay person, such as you, to grasp.


Which obviously means you're not going to prove any of what you say. You're not fooling me Zarkov. You can't prove anything. It's just like your "I don't wanna share my formulas!!" excuse, only far less effective. Too bad; you'll still look like an idiot.

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But the thermodynamic principles are far too hard for a lay person, such as you, to grasp.


Which obviously means you're not going to prove any of what you say. You're not fooling me Zarkov. You can't prove anything. It's just like your "I don't wanna share my formulas!!" excuse, only far less effective. Too bad; you'll still look like an idiot.

the Egyptian Pyramids are a true pinnacle of engineering....


We never said they weren't.

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far greater in conception, design and construction.... than any "human" feat since


The people who built/are building this would beg to differ.

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far greater in conception, design and construction.... than any "human" feat since


The people who built/are building this would beg to differ.

The concepts go way over modern logic as is evidenced by the really childish claims that they were tombs for single parents..... LOL


Liar. When did we say that?
Trippy
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 25 2008, 06:12 PM)
My assertions are easy to prove...from written observations of the time, from Egyptian religious writings, to microbiological principles and to the elite's shear need to survive.

But the thermodynamic principles are far too hard for a lay person, such as you, to grasp.

Too bad, the Egyptian Pyramids are a true pinnacle of engineering.... far greater in conception, design and construction.... than any "human" feat since

The concepts go way over modern logic as is evidenced by the really childish claims that they were tombs for single parents..... LOL

Earthlings, you do not even know your past unsure.gif blink.gif

laugh.gif
So you're finally admitting to being from another world?

There's one major hole in your argument - the part where they found sarcophafi, or evidence of them in the pyramids...

Or was that a coverup as well?
Zarkov
a building LOL

the Egyptian pyramids are a machine (admittedly broken now)

that would have lasted forever, producing something more precious than gold... with no moving parts, no maintenance

A tribute to the quality of the mind of the High priests...

There has been nothing to compare to the pyramids, and nothing ever will

It is all downhill from there.... sad.gif
Trippy
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 25 2008, 07:29 PM)
a building LOL

the Egyptian pyramids are a machine (admittedly broken now)

that would have lasted forever, producing something more precious than gold... with no moving parts, no maintenance

A tribute to the quality of the mind of the High priests...

There has been nothing to compare to the pyramids, and nothing ever will

It is all downhill from there.... sad.gif

Grab your pyramid hats and tinfoil underpants boys!

Zarkov's here, and he's the only one that knows the truth!
N O M
Has Zerkoff ever managed to post anything sane? On any topic at all?
Trippy
QUOTE (N O M+Mar 25 2008, 09:12 PM)
Has Zerkoff ever managed to post anything sane? On any topic at all?

Not that i've ever seen.
TheDoc
QUOTE (N O M+Mar 25 2008, 08:12 AM)
Has Zerkoff ever managed to post anything sane? On any topic at all?


Short answer: No.

Long answer: No.
Zarkov
The trolls always have the last words.....

except when they are asleep ! LOL

any takers on the whys and wherefores of the Egyptian pyramids.

Apparently even "pyramids" in England and elsewhere were built for similar functions...

a world wide understanding, it seems

Lost to modern humans,,,,, LOL as is so much
Trippy
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 26 2008, 09:47 PM)
The trolls always have the last words.....

except when they are asleep ! LOL

any takers on the whys and wherefores of the Egyptian pyramids.

Apparently even "pyramids" in England and elsewhere were built for similar functions...

a world wide understanding, it seems

Lost to modern humans,,,,, LOL as is so much

Lets think about this for a minute (or in Zarkovs case a day or so).

What possible natural feature occurs world wide that could be an inspiration for such things... Hmmm.... Let's think about this, I know it's hard, but bear with me... I know! HILLS!!

Why would there be a connection made...

That's a toughy...

I know! Because most cultures use burial mounds at some point.

Equally, Pyamid shapes are nice and stable, and temples are meant for the gods, and the gods reside in the sky (well, the mor eimportant ones tend to) so why not try and build structures to try and get closer to them.

Hmmmm.

It's such a toughy.
Zarkov
Hiya folks

there before your eyes is logic, damn logic.... LOL

no sense but logic !!!!

Now what worldwide is THE most precious substance of Earth.... that is if you haven't got it ????


LOL

Logic, we need more logic, yay cool.gif ph34r.gif
Sinister Utopia
QUOTE (Trippy+Mar 25 2008, 06:59 AM)
Grab your pyramid hats and tinfoil underpants boys!

Zarkov's here, and he's the only one that knows the truth!

I always wear mine as a matter of principle. unsure.gif

The pyramids were probably built for the same reason most structures are built, many purposes.

One could have simply been to reach the Stars or sky.
A conduit to reach their Gods.
To fore-fill a prophecy?
A symbol of advancement, engineering, mathematics, civilization, unity etc
To action the order of a King/Queen which led to subsequent Kings/Queens also demanding the same or grander gesture, which leads to a cultural tradition, maybe.
A tomb?, probably.

As grand and impressive as the Pyramids are one can't help but wonder whether this was the best use of their resources and energies.
Perhaps if they had spent more time building up their Cities they may have stuck around much longer.

who knows?

well apart from Zarkof.





tongue.gif
adoucette
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 26 2008, 04:20 AM)
Now what worldwide is THE most precious substance of Earth.... that is if you haven't got it ????


Besides O2, number two would be clean water.
Zarkov
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The pyramids were probably built for the same reason most structures are built, many purposes.


well the pyramids referred to here, were sealed, and covered with smooth white limestone

so they shone like the Sun.....and could be seen from a very long way off

That sort of precludes many "uses", like sightseeing, holding concerts, brothels etc


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The pyramids were probably built for the same reason most structures are built, many purposes.


well the pyramids referred to here, were sealed, and covered with smooth white limestone

so they shone like the Sun.....and could be seen from a very long way off

That sort of precludes many "uses", like sightseeing, holding concerts, brothels etc


wonder whether this was the best use of their resources and energies.


Well they worked forever and produced something more precious than gold

AND without them the elite may have died horrible and premature deaths..

mmmh, I think they were very efficient and well worth the effort

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Besides O2, number two would be clean water.


emphasis here is CLEAN

disease free...holy water.... without that you really have no secure linage of control

Now the pyramids made CLEAN DISEASE FREE water in abundance (equal in quality to distilled water.... except its condenser was granite)


The river Nile harboured many diseases.. liver fluke was a killer... only trolls drink river water ! it shows doesn't it

BUT the water was not distilled ?? no heat, no moving parts, no attendance, no maintenance

tin foil hats (GOLD is better) on again

How was this water made ?
BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 26 2008, 03:04 PM)
Well they worked forever and produced something more precious than gold

QUOTE (Zarkov+)
the Egyptian pyramids are a machine (admittedly broken now)
Sapo
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 26 2008, 03:04 PM)

How was this water made ?

Windtraps and sandworms, you fool.
Zarkov
Morons break machines, or forums

even if they were designed to work forever

Morons break everything..... because they themselves are totally fractured !
BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 26 2008, 03:33 PM)
Morons break everything..... because they themselves are totally fractured !

I've been thinking of you as "cracked" for some time now. It's nice to see you back me up.
Sapo
Ooh. That was impressive. What did it mean? Did you break your forum already?
adoucette
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 26 2008, 03:04 PM)
Now the pyramids made CLEAN DISEASE FREE water in abundance (equal in quality to distilled water.... except its condenser was granite)


The river Nile harboured many diseases.. liver fluke was a killer... only trolls drink river water !  it shows doesn't it

BUT the water was not distilled ??  no heat, no moving parts, no attendance, no maintenance

tin foil hats (GOLD is better) on again

How was this water made ?

The Greeks apparently did this as well, and roughly around the same time, but used smaller, porous pyramids.

http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf080/sf080a01.htm

http://www.crystalinks.com/pyrgreece.html

I'm not at all familiar with the interior of the Egyptian pyramids but I thought they were essentially sealed structures. If this idea of condensing water by cooling the air via a large man made cave is along the lines of what you are thinking, then I'm curious about how you envisioned them getting the air to circulate.

If not, then just present your idea, since you claim to (as usual) to know the answer.

Arthur
Zarkov
Thank you Arthur

your input is always welcome

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idea of condensing water by cooling the air via a large man made cave is along the lines of what you are thinking, then I'm curious about how you envisioned them getting the air to circulate.


Inside the pyramids they have the Kings Chamber/ queens chamber etc
(you should look up the structure)

containing massive granite slabs.... very very massive and these were the "cool blocks" than dehumidified the humid air... yielding water.

The pyramids had a "well" underneath and air shafts to allow air in

Writings from the time, indicate that around the great Pyramids there was a very large lake... extending to the Sphinx.... where boats were used in ritual ceremony

The Sphinx actually shows "water lap" damage.

Yes you are spot on Arthur, it seems many people noticed dripping water in caves... and recognised the significance

LOL, all except modern man !!!!!! blink.gif

Even the MICE knew !!!!
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idea of condensing water by cooling the air via a large man made cave is along the lines of what you are thinking, then I'm curious about how you envisioned them getting the air to circulate.


Inside the pyramids they have the Kings Chamber/ queens chamber etc
(you should look up the structure)

containing massive granite slabs.... very very massive and these were the "cool blocks" than dehumidified the humid air... yielding water.

The pyramids had a "well" underneath and air shafts to allow air in

Writings from the time, indicate that around the great Pyramids there was a very large lake... extending to the Sphinx.... where boats were used in ritual ceremony

The Sphinx actually shows "water lap" damage.

Yes you are spot on Arthur, it seems many people noticed dripping water in caves... and recognised the significance

LOL, all except modern man !!!!!! blink.gif

Even the MICE knew !!!!
"One archaeologist calculated a water flow of 14,400 gallons per (GREEK) pyramid per day, based on the size of the clay pipes leading from each device."

..... some mice in the Sahara pile small heaps of rocks in front of their burrows and lick the condensed moisture off in the morning.


see
http://abc.net.au/science/news/stories/2007/1961437.htm
for design of a modern "inverted" pyramid

a short sum up

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Evidence for the pyramids as a machine

(1) there is a series of machines (pyramids) that show a line of enhanced design
(2) other than "first" attempts, the pyramids have a WELL ! (no use except to collect water.)
(3) the Pyramids were sealed except for "air" shafts. The dead do not breath.
(4) The pyramids had a MASSIVE GRANITE CONDENSATION CHAMBER that had access to the desert air. This chamber SUCKED humid air in. (low pressure formed due to water vapour condensation)
(5) The humidity of the air over the Nile reaches saturation.
(6) the pyramids were aligned to reflect most heat/light. They even had a highly reflective outside coat of gleaming (highly reflective) limestone.
(7) There are WRITTEN archaeological records describing the pyramids as having huge lakes of water surrounding them... eyewitness accounts.
(8) There are primitive constructions in many parts of the world that operated on the above "pile of rocks condensation" logic, these have been verified as water producers.
(9) Many natural rock formations process water vapour in a similar manner, giving rise to seeps and springs.

and there is more.

LOL, the local morons had no idea where the water came from, it was magic, and yes it was magic. Ignorant louts, that them broke these magnificent conceptions.

Writings written on the pyramid walls praised the water produced,,,, it saved many elite from premature death. It was described in holy texts as HOLY WATER a gift from the GODS.
Sinister Utopia
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 26 2008, 08:04 PM)

well the pyramids referred to here, were sealed, and covered with smooth white limestone

so they shone like the Sun.....and could be seen from a very long way off

That sort of precludes many "uses", like sightseeing, holding concerts, brothels etc




Well they worked forever and produced something more precious than gold

AND without them the elite may have died horrible and premature deaths..

mmmh, I think they were very efficient and well worth the effort



emphasis here is CLEAN

disease free...holy water.... without that you really have no secure linage of control

Now the pyramids made CLEAN DISEASE FREE water in abundance (equal in quality to distilled water.... except its condenser was granite)


The river Nile harboured many diseases.. liver fluke was a killer... only trolls drink river water !  it shows doesn't it

BUT the water was not distilled ??  no heat, no moving parts, no attendance, no maintenance

tin foil hats (GOLD is better) on again

How was this water made ?

Ok I'll bite,

The Pyramids produced clean disease free water, correct?

Do you know how they did this?
N O M
Oh, that explains why some Egyptian cities had to be abandoned due to lack of water, they built the water creating machines next to the river laugh.gif
Zarkov
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Do you know how they did this?


LOL, the process used is one of dehumidification of the air...taking water out of the air

Water in the air... called water vapour... is condensed upon a cold surface... in this case granite slabs..... and this water is collected..... the only contact the water makes is with clean rock... no human pathogens, no parasites or bacteria or fungi....

It is well recognised that CLEAN disease free, no chemicals added water is almost equivalent to high mountain stream water.... and mountain people live long and healthy LOL

you sort the rest.

IMO the case is made beyond any doubt.... and still the lunes here bay at the Moon. ( there is no hope earthlings !!! )

Now if the great pyramids were repaired then without doubt they would work again

and be a testament to the intelligence and unbelievable skill of a long lost tribe; a fitting tribute to their genius !!!

Present day earthlings can't even hold a candle to the wisdom of the Ancients.... for they were not human !

LOL

Sapo
Freak.
TheDoc
Wacko.
adoucette
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
Writings written on the pyramid walls praised the water produced,,,, it saved many elite from premature death. It was described in holy texts as HOLY WATER a gift from the GODS.


Source for this statement?

Arthur
Trippy
So who do we believe? Zarkov?
or the guy that tells us they're hydraulic pumps powered by fires?
Zarkov
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There are records in inscriptions, that state the sacred water was used to maintain survival, and the text specifically endorsed it's divine properties.

Drinking hallowed water was necessary for the continued existence.

"May they let me eat of the fields and drink from the pools within the Field of Offerings."
Pyramid Texts: Utterance 518 Faulkner p. 191, Line 1200-1201 but the people, were seemingly aware that unseen dangers may lurk in the water, prayed to the gods

... who remove the pestilence of the streams so that you may drink water from them.
Coffin Texts Spell #12
TheDoc
Provide the link, or take a hike.
Zarkov
by god doc u r soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boring
Trippy
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 27 2008, 10:52 PM)
by god doc u r soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boring

Not as boring as you.

Why do you continue to avoid substantiating your claims?

Is it because you can't?
Zarkov
LOL

the case is made without me

fool!
Sinister Utopia
Dear Zarkov,

LOL, You seem to appear very knowledgeable about this subject, evidently far more than your detractors, LOL.

So here is my suggestion,

If you claim to know how the ancient Egyptians who in your words:

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Present day earthlings can't even hold a candle to the wisdom of the Ancients.... for they were not human !

LOL


Why are you not in Egypt right now repairing and reinstating these Pyramids to their former state. Just think with the knowledge you claim to have, you could be at the cutting edge of designing newer cheaper versions that could reduce the problems associated with 'unclean' waters in areas and environments as required.
Why do you persist in trying to convince those that require more evidence than you appear able or willing to produce or demonstrate over the Internet. If this technology is truly what you claim then why not put it to use? There are many who could benefit from such knowledge.

LOL

kind
regards

An Earthling...

Zarkov
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Why are you not in Egypt right now


never left it ! LOL

Time does not exist except in your head LOL

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Why are you not in Egypt right now


never left it ! LOL

Time does not exist except in your head LOL

repairing and reinstating these Pyramids to their former state


That was past technology.. the legacy /wisdom goes on LOL LOL


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There are many who could benefit from such knowledge.


Sister what Utopia do you exist in ?

Why believe me ? What makes you think just telling this world what to do just works.

How many negative points, how many banings, how many insults

what makes you think insane people can accept sanity ??
R U mad ?


This world is . And no one cares.

When one and one makes x then thats it !

LOL LOL LOL tongue.gif
adoucette
Turns out this is a 5 year old re-hash.

http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/k2/stn/arc...topic99150.shtm

laugh.gif

Seems that discussion follows the same pattern as many on this board.

Ending like this:

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Zarkov, everyone here would be curious, if you could provide even one scrap of evidence that exists outside your mind.

There is no evidence and it flies in the face of common sense. Considering that you can’t provide any evidence, don’t understand water distillation and believed that the pyramids were 10, 000 years old I’m not inclined to believe you know what you’re talking about on this one.


Sound familiar?


Arthur
Sinister Utopia
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never left it ! LOL

Time does not exist except in your head  LOL


Oh great LOL

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never left it ! LOL

Time does not exist except in your head  LOL


Oh great LOL

That was past technology.. the legacy /wisdom  goes on LOL  LOL


At least there is a little sanity is some of what you say.

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Sister what Utopia do you exist in ?


The Universe.

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Sister what Utopia do you exist in ?


The Universe.

Why believe me ? 


Why indeed.

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What makes you think just telling this world what to do just works.


It seems like you are here doing all the telling, I made a suggestion.

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What makes you think just telling this world what to do just works.


It seems like you are here doing all the telling, I made a suggestion.

How many negative points, how many banings, how many insults


I don't know.

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what makes you think insane people can accept sanity ??


I suggest that you refrain from assuming what I think, perhaps for the sake of your own sanity.

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what makes you think insane people can accept sanity ??


I suggest that you refrain from assuming what I think, perhaps for the sake of your own sanity.

R U mad ?


Bonkers wink.gif

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This world is .  And no one cares. 

When one and one makes x then thats it !

LOL LOL LOL  tongue.gif


Prove it, LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL tongue.gif

adoucette
It just gets better and better

laugh.gif

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The Egyptian pyramids were practical devices handed down from the Alantians.
DavidD
Egiptan pyramids making energy, which goes out your as.
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