Since the internet is notably devoid of non-verbal cues and many other human communication patterns, is internet communication also devoid of empathy? This might explain why people resort to insults more quickly on the 'net then they do IRL. Any thoughts?
I think this is a most excellent question, and answer all wrapped in one. Just change the punctuation on empathy. But, in all fairness to "the-net." I have only experienced lack of empathy on this site. I think the lack of empathy stems from pretentious circles or academic "clubs," or "higher ... total-institutions*." I think it has more to do with people expecting something without having to work hard for it. People want instant gratification, that's why being fat is the biggest health problem in America, fast food. Not just the chain stores, but tall the processed crap made with "chemical soup." I think the secondary question should be, what can be done? The IRL aspect I imagine would be something like, what people say to your face, and what they say behind your back soon as you leave the room.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O88-totalinstitution.html
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O88-totalinstitution.html
Mby it does but hey whats so wrong with being a sociopath? 
.... Nothing at all apparently.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 3 2009, 11:30 PM)
I think this is a most excellent question, and answer all wrapped in one. Just change the punctuation on empathy. But, in all fairness to "the-net." I have only experienced lack of empathy on this site.
It's not just here, it's everywhere. The common case being that someone posts something that is completely opposite to your point of view, and your reaction is less than 'civil'. If you and I had a face-to-face discussion, or even one over the phone, I would be able to pick up on your tone of voice.
For instance, you might be typing a statement, but the tone of voice that you are imagining and the tone of voice that everyone else picks up are very different. As a general rule, I try to stay conscious of the general 'tone' that my writing takes.
Basically, misinterpretation can lead to inferred hostility, and then escalation. On this forum, it is easy to do this. If you go around claiming that the foundations of science are wrong, then you are insinuating that 99% of the people on this forum and in the scientific community are stupid for not considering that possibility.
It's not just here, it's everywhere. The common case being that someone posts something that is completely opposite to your point of view, and your reaction is less than 'civil'. If you and I had a face-to-face discussion, or even one over the phone, I would be able to pick up on your tone of voice.
For instance, you might be typing a statement, but the tone of voice that you are imagining and the tone of voice that everyone else picks up are very different. As a general rule, I try to stay conscious of the general 'tone' that my writing takes.
Basically, misinterpretation can lead to inferred hostility, and then escalation. On this forum, it is easy to do this. If you go around claiming that the foundations of science are wrong, then you are insinuating that 99% of the people on this forum and in the scientific community are stupid for not considering that possibility.
flyingbuttressman
"Basically, misinterpretation can lead to inferred hostility, and then escalation. On this forum, it is easy to do this. If you go around claiming that the foundations of science are wrong, then you are insinuating that 99% of the people on this forum and in the scientific community are stupid for not considering that possibility."
I am afraid you turn it a little upwards down, by arguing that people coming up with thoughts and ideas that are not mainstream at the same time are indicating that those not sharing their same ideas are stupid -
No - of course they are not, and no one should be entitled to feel being provoked - and we are not dealing with misinterpretation, we are facing examples that some members feel in their good right to react hostile against ideas they do not share. Truth is a majority concept.
Unfortunately there will always be such sociopaths around, and they have an easy life in a Forum like this hiding as anonymous - the best is not to nourish their sociopathic behavior and not getting flamed about their sick provocations.
"Basically, misinterpretation can lead to inferred hostility, and then escalation. On this forum, it is easy to do this. If you go around claiming that the foundations of science are wrong, then you are insinuating that 99% of the people on this forum and in the scientific community are stupid for not considering that possibility."
I am afraid you turn it a little upwards down, by arguing that people coming up with thoughts and ideas that are not mainstream at the same time are indicating that those not sharing their same ideas are stupid -
No - of course they are not, and no one should be entitled to feel being provoked - and we are not dealing with misinterpretation, we are facing examples that some members feel in their good right to react hostile against ideas they do not share. Truth is a majority concept.
Unfortunately there will always be such sociopaths around, and they have an easy life in a Forum like this hiding as anonymous - the best is not to nourish their sociopathic behavior and not getting flamed about their sick provocations.
bukh,
Looks like you misunderstood. It's fine to come here with new ideas and what other people think about it. It is another thing to come here and tell everyone that they are wrong and that you are right because you are a genius and figured it out yourself. It's called humility vs. arrogance.
Secondly, I didn't say that the internet attracts sociopaths. I said that the internet communication lacks many 'human' aspects, leaving it hard to practice empathy.
Looks like you misunderstood. It's fine to come here with new ideas and what other people think about it. It is another thing to come here and tell everyone that they are wrong and that you are right because you are a genius and figured it out yourself. It's called humility vs. arrogance.
Secondly, I didn't say that the internet attracts sociopaths. I said that the internet communication lacks many 'human' aspects, leaving it hard to practice empathy.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 3 2009, 11:30 PM)
I have only experienced lack of empathy on this site. I think the lack of empathy stems from pretentious circles or academic "clubs," or "higher ... total-institutions*."
Of course you think that, because finding the commonalities between you and others who don't get any empathy on this site, while simultaneously discovering the differences between that group and those people who do get some empathy on this site might expose something unsavory about the former group.
In regards to the OP:
The internet most certainly contributes to a reduction in a person's inhibitions. When you don't have to look a person in the eye, you're more likely to be confrontational than otherwise, because the emotional centers of your brain are not recognizing any consequences of being confrontational. Have you ever heard of the phrase "phone cajones" ? It refers to the way some people seem much braver on the phone than in person. People will yell and scream at helpless-to-help-yet-polite customer service reps day in and day out over the phone, but mind their p's and q's when dealing a jackass clerk in a store.
But does it make us sociopaths? Not at all. People still empathize with others. I empathize with Michael J and his friend's plight. I empathize with Trout and AlphaNumeric and Euler's frustrations at the behavior of people on this site. I've been on the giving and on the receiving end of empathy, sympathy, pity and support on this forum, and this is only one of the forum's I've participated in.
Of course you think that, because finding the commonalities between you and others who don't get any empathy on this site, while simultaneously discovering the differences between that group and those people who do get some empathy on this site might expose something unsavory about the former group.
In regards to the OP:
The internet most certainly contributes to a reduction in a person's inhibitions. When you don't have to look a person in the eye, you're more likely to be confrontational than otherwise, because the emotional centers of your brain are not recognizing any consequences of being confrontational. Have you ever heard of the phrase "phone cajones" ? It refers to the way some people seem much braver on the phone than in person. People will yell and scream at helpless-to-help-yet-polite customer service reps day in and day out over the phone, but mind their p's and q's when dealing a jackass clerk in a store.
But does it make us sociopaths? Not at all. People still empathize with others. I empathize with Michael J and his friend's plight. I empathize with Trout and AlphaNumeric and Euler's frustrations at the behavior of people on this site. I've been on the giving and on the receiving end of empathy, sympathy, pity and support on this forum, and this is only one of the forum's I've participated in.
I think something is only hard to do, as simple as that is, if one chooses to think so.
It's not hard to communicate over the internet, why should it be hard to practice empathy? If people think, they are hearing a voice when they are reading something, they sound realize that it is their own. That the person writing is not inside your heard speaking in the tone to be imagined. You have to ask questions in order to find out, then they will speak for themselves, but if you have a history of hearing this imagined voice, no matter what they say, you won't hear them, and you won't ask questions in regard to what they are saying, but only bold and brazen statements. But, not all questions should be answered or asked on a scientific forum right?
Like say what do you believe about god? Science cannot prove anything about "god-s" to be true or untrue. So the only proper question science can assume at this time is do you believe in "god-s?" There is no reason for specific claims, when science cannot answer the general one, one way or another. Science cannot either answer this about the spirituality. So the only question necessary and sufficient for science is, do you believe in spirituality? It cannot prove nor disprove this, so there is no chance or next step to get into .. without the foundational answer of the prime question. But, when I refused to answer this question, specifically what do you think it is, I was in error ... Go figure, that wasn't my voice, that was my voice in some delusional person's mind, knowing what I was saying because I could not answer a question that has no scientific basis of proof, or disprove.
Mjolnir,
Seriously do you have to troll me? Prove your point about me, in every thread that has nothing to do with my opinion of you and come in and state your opinion of me? Which was your first action ... rather than contribute to the thread?
Of course you think that, because finding the commonalities between you and others who don't get any empathy on this site, while simultaneously discovering the differences between that group and those people who do get some empathy on this site might expose something unsavory about the former group.
I have never had trout, alpha, or euler indicate that it's cool to shoot someone, a wise choice if you can do the math, or sucker punch, or lie to hurt someone. I don't see them making that connection with you. It's funny you don't see what you're doing. They don't follow me a around you do. So since you have made the connection to them, should I assume that you're acting on their behalf, and this is the behavior that the favor? Are you a dog who's been let of his leash?
I am not making that connection, you are. I exist independent of those other people, not something I would expect you to understand.
It's not hard to communicate over the internet, why should it be hard to practice empathy? If people think, they are hearing a voice when they are reading something, they sound realize that it is their own. That the person writing is not inside your heard speaking in the tone to be imagined. You have to ask questions in order to find out, then they will speak for themselves, but if you have a history of hearing this imagined voice, no matter what they say, you won't hear them, and you won't ask questions in regard to what they are saying, but only bold and brazen statements. But, not all questions should be answered or asked on a scientific forum right?
Like say what do you believe about god? Science cannot prove anything about "god-s" to be true or untrue. So the only proper question science can assume at this time is do you believe in "god-s?" There is no reason for specific claims, when science cannot answer the general one, one way or another. Science cannot either answer this about the spirituality. So the only question necessary and sufficient for science is, do you believe in spirituality? It cannot prove nor disprove this, so there is no chance or next step to get into .. without the foundational answer of the prime question. But, when I refused to answer this question, specifically what do you think it is, I was in error ... Go figure, that wasn't my voice, that was my voice in some delusional person's mind, knowing what I was saying because I could not answer a question that has no scientific basis of proof, or disprove.
Mjolnir,
Seriously do you have to troll me? Prove your point about me, in every thread that has nothing to do with my opinion of you and come in and state your opinion of me? Which was your first action ... rather than contribute to the thread?
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Of course you think that, because finding the commonalities between you and others who don't get any empathy on this site, while simultaneously discovering the differences between that group and those people who do get some empathy on this site might expose something unsavory about the former group.
I have never had trout, alpha, or euler indicate that it's cool to shoot someone, a wise choice if you can do the math, or sucker punch, or lie to hurt someone. I don't see them making that connection with you. It's funny you don't see what you're doing. They don't follow me a around you do. So since you have made the connection to them, should I assume that you're acting on their behalf, and this is the behavior that the favor? Are you a dog who's been let of his leash?
I am not making that connection, you are. I exist independent of those other people, not something I would expect you to understand.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 4 2009, 12:13 PM)
Seriously do you have to troll me?
You should read the link below, because you obviously have no idea what trolling is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
You should read the link below, because you obviously have no idea what trolling is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
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In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, or off-topic messages in an online community. such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]
What is that you have said that you like to do most on this forum? Argue like a dumbass? That is not debate. I did not get personal, but you chose to, that's called provoking. My comments were general, you made specifics. And I suppose indicating shooting me, sucker punching, resorting to violence wasn't enough for you to be considered, controversial. Are you on a Meem crusade? Do you have something to prove to me? Then stay on topic, and prove it, and stop the bs.
And see, I made a grammatical error, which total changed what I was saying 3 posts up, maybe some people were able to figure it out maybe some weren't. I'm not very solid proof reader. I definitely have need of an editor.
Anyways,
Good-day, Time to get some things done in the real-world ...
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they sound realize that it is their own
They should, of course. I know that's far from should, but I can't tell you what exactly happened, maybe I miss clicked spell checker, maybe I didn't even look at what the first selection was. If someone could prove to me what error I made, I would like to know if it would be other than grammatical consideration, because other than that, a person would have to assume they are inside my head ... or something. Chances are a person could be sitting right next to me and not even notice what exactly I did wrong, but the grammar was way off. Anyways,
Good-day, Time to get some things done in the real-world ...
Does anyone else find this part funny....
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What is that you have said that you like to do most on this forum? Argue like a dumbass? That is not debate. I did not get personal, but you chose to, that's called provoking. My comments were general, you made specifics. And I suppose indicating shooting me, sucker punching, resorting to violence wasn't enough for you to be considered, controversial. Are you on a Meem crusade? Do you have something to prove to me? Then stay on topic, and prove it, and stop the bs.
OK.. maybe it's just me.. but it's hilarious.
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What is that you have said that you like to do most on this forum? Argue like a dumbass? That is not debate. I did not get personal, but you chose to, that's called provoking. My comments were general, you made specifics. And I suppose indicating shooting me, sucker punching, resorting to violence wasn't enough for you to be considered, controversial. Are you on a Meem crusade? Do you have something to prove to me? Then stay on topic, and prove it, and stop the bs.
OK.. maybe it's just me.. but it's hilarious.
I think I figured out who the Nazi captain is ..., Occident is just a paper pusher.
You walk into the thread, and do the exact same thing stated in the quote ... You're a genius too
This Forum Is a sociopath's club, for people who think violence is ok as clearly outlined in the rules. Acidemic circles? What a sham.
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me! El capitan!
PhD my ***. Psychotic Historical Dictator, perhaps.
You walk into the thread, and do the exact same thing stated in the quote ... You're a genius too
This Forum Is a sociopath's club, for people who think violence is ok as clearly outlined in the rules. Acidemic circles? What a sham.
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RobDegraves Posted on Today at 3:45 PM
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me! El capitan!
PhD my ***. Psychotic Historical Dictator, perhaps.
lol.. Meem
You just can't help picking fights with everyone can't you?
You have these constant temper tantrums where you splutter, scream and incoherently rage insults and use bad language after anyone says anything even in the least contradictory to your views. I pointed out an irony... with no insults nor swearing.
What do you do?
Well... pretty well your usual.
You just can't help picking fights with everyone can't you?
You have these constant temper tantrums where you splutter, scream and incoherently rage insults and use bad language after anyone says anything even in the least contradictory to your views. I pointed out an irony... with no insults nor swearing.
What do you do?
Well... pretty well your usual.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 4 2009, 06:22 PM)
PhD my ***. Psychotic Historical Dictator, perhaps.
Sorry, not funny.
ANYWAY, the point is that empathy is not something that comes naturally on the internet. In real life, it is a basic human instinct. Imagine for a second that a robot is reading this message to you, then imagine a human reading this message to you. There is a difference, right? On the internet, we can only guess at the emotions of the author.
Meem,
I don't believe that you are being singled out. Lots of other people get the same treatment as you. The reason why people say unkind things to you is because you are not considering how your statements are taken. I do not think that you are an arrogant individual, but your posts could use a little more humility. When I think I have a profound statement to make, I phrase it in the form of a question, so I can say "Here is what I'm thinking, is this off base?" Some people on this forum, worst of all amrit and magpies, post things as indisputable fact. Even if they have something worthwhile to say, they destroy it with arrogance and their own misunderstandings.
If you take this into account, I don't think that you will have any more problems with being "trolled."
Sorry, not funny.
ANYWAY, the point is that empathy is not something that comes naturally on the internet. In real life, it is a basic human instinct. Imagine for a second that a robot is reading this message to you, then imagine a human reading this message to you. There is a difference, right? On the internet, we can only guess at the emotions of the author.
Meem,
I don't believe that you are being singled out. Lots of other people get the same treatment as you. The reason why people say unkind things to you is because you are not considering how your statements are taken. I do not think that you are an arrogant individual, but your posts could use a little more humility. When I think I have a profound statement to make, I phrase it in the form of a question, so I can say "Here is what I'm thinking, is this off base?" Some people on this forum, worst of all amrit and magpies, post things as indisputable fact. Even if they have something worthwhile to say, they destroy it with arrogance and their own misunderstandings.
If you take this into account, I don't think that you will have any more problems with being "trolled."
QUOTE (RobDegraves+Jul 4 2009, 06:33 PM)
lol.. Meem
You just can't help picking fights with everyone can't you?
That's why he's here.
You just can't help picking fights with everyone can't you?
That's why he's here.
Oh I am definitely considering how my statements are taking as well as others. And how the Grave Robber comes to the aid of the lead sociopath, irony? Funny, no, insulting yes.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sociopath
so⋅ci⋅o⋅path
–noun Psychiatry. a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sociopath
so⋅ci⋅o⋅path
–noun Psychiatry. a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern of the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken. And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools. Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless. You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience that they seldom even guess at your condition.
Further explaination.
Now I am curious to see you do it.
Could you link or quote where Mjolnirpants has directly threatened you?
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
How blind can you be?
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
How blind can you be?
If you were in any front line combat unit in the Army, I promise you'd have had a friendly fire 'accident' on your first mission, with that attitude.
There was a guy in my unit named Roberts whom I couldn't stand. I'd sucker punched him or straight up fought him a dozen times, insulted him constantly, never spent any time with him that I didn't absolutely have to, and even told his girlfriend he was screwing hookers while he was on post so she'd break up with him (it didn't work), but I'd never even consider shooting him or doing anything to send him up to a hospital. He was a jackass and an idiot, but he knew when to shut up and drop our personal issues, and he certainly didn't whine about being mistreated, even though most of the other guys tended to take my side in most arguments
Are you asking me to do it? Rob, are you double daring me like occidental?
In what way was Meem defrauded by MJ?
Perhaps Meem should report MJ. I'm sure the Internet Cops could use a laugh.
Empty promises.
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RobDegraves Posted on Today at 3:45 PM
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me! El capitan!
PhD my ***. Psychotic Historical Dictator, perhaps.
RobDegraves Posted on Today at 3:45 PM
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me! El capitan!
PhD my ***. Psychotic Historical Dictator, perhaps.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sociopath
so⋅ci⋅o⋅path
–noun Psychiatry. a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sociopath
so⋅ci⋅o⋅path
–noun Psychiatry. a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern of the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken. And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools. Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless. You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience that they seldom even guess at your condition.
Further explaination.
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There was a guy in my unit(forum) named Roberts(Meem) whom I couldn't stand. I'd sucker punched him or straight up fought him a dozen times, insulted him constantly, never spent any time with him that I didn't absolutely have to,(never logically question his or my behavior) and even told his girlfriend (lied) he was screwing hookers(slander) while he was on post so she'd break up with him (it didn't work),
Lying doesn't work? amazing! you can see it?
So when the shooting starts, the other members will quickly do the math, and pick one dead jackass over 2 dead buddies any day
If you were in any front line combat unit in the Army, I promise you'd have had a friendly fire 'accident' on your first mission, with that attitude.
Lying doesn't work? amazing! you can see it?
So when the shooting starts, the other members will quickly do the math, and pick one dead jackass over 2 dead buddies any day
If you were in any front line combat unit in the Army, I promise you'd have had a friendly fire 'accident' on your first mission, with that attitude.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 4 2009, 07:02 PM)
Further explaination.
So you think I'm a sociopath, meem?
Such a shame I know your name, hometown and former career, then. That's the sort of information a sociopath might put to ill use...
Ok, I have better things to do than stalk you, REMF. But your own assertion still paints you in an incredibly stupid light.
So you think I'm a sociopath, meem?
Such a shame I know your name, hometown and former career, then. That's the sort of information a sociopath might put to ill use...
Ok, I have better things to do than stalk you, REMF. But your own assertion still paints you in an incredibly stupid light.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 4 2009, 07:02 PM)
Oh I am definitely considering how my statements are taking as well as others. And how the Grave Robber comes to the aid of the lead sociopath, irony? Funny, no, insulting yes.
Meem,
You have posted some... interesting things in the past. Even you can admit that. Once you get branded as a "crank" you need to work extra hard to change that. So, stop complaining and start offering your best insight on the *actual* topics on this forum.
Meem,
You have posted some... interesting things in the past. Even you can admit that. Once you get branded as a "crank" you need to work extra hard to change that. So, stop complaining and start offering your best insight on the *actual* topics on this forum.
Wheres your thoughts on the nano thread I might ask? How about this one, not the game, the topic? Before this got turned into the name game? Did I do that, or do you have me confused with someone else?
Look at the waste of space a few short posts above.
Mjolnir, I think I shall report you to the "Internet Cops" for making a valid threat, right here in broad daylight. You know, that is an ever expanding hot topic on the news, you should be more connected to the world around you. Perhaps I could even file a suit against the site for allowing the continual threats and behavior to be made. The thread where is ok to promise someone will be shot, beat, lied, slander. I wonder how that would stand up ina court of law, that works off of facts? Is this site ready to make history? Good job, hero, keep pushing my buttons. Are you ready to put your money where your mouth is?
And Flying, look whom you make muscles for.
Look at the waste of space a few short posts above.
Mjolnir, I think I shall report you to the "Internet Cops" for making a valid threat, right here in broad daylight. You know, that is an ever expanding hot topic on the news, you should be more connected to the world around you. Perhaps I could even file a suit against the site for allowing the continual threats and behavior to be made. The thread where is ok to promise someone will be shot, beat, lied, slander. I wonder how that would stand up ina court of law, that works off of facts? Is this site ready to make history? Good job, hero, keep pushing my buttons. Are you ready to put your money where your mouth is?
And Flying, look whom you make muscles for.
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Mjolnir, I think I shall report you to the "Internet Cops" for making a valid threat, right here in broad daylight.
Now I am curious to see you do it.
Could you link or quote where Mjolnirpants has directly threatened you?
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Such a shame I know your name, hometown and former career, then. That's the sort of information a sociopath might put to ill use...
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
How blind can you be?
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http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
How blind can you be?
If you were in any front line combat unit in the Army, I promise you'd have had a friendly fire 'accident' on your first mission, with that attitude.
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Having a whiny baѕtard who holds grudges at all costs and can't admit when he's wrong (can't compromise anything) in a combat unit is likely to get more than one person killed. So when the shooting starts, the other members will quickly do the math, and pick one dead jackass over 2 dead buddies any day. I'd certainly do that math, and make the same choice myself
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There was a guy in my unit named Roberts whom I couldn't stand. I'd sucker punched him or straight up fought him a dozen times, insulted him constantly, never spent any time with him that I didn't absolutely have to, and even told his girlfriend he was screwing hookers while he was on post so she'd break up with him (it didn't work), but I'd never even consider shooting him or doing anything to send him up to a hospital. He was a jackass and an idiot, but he knew when to shut up and drop our personal issues, and he certainly didn't whine about being mistreated, even though most of the other guys tended to take my side in most arguments
Are you asking me to do it? Rob, are you double daring me like occidental?
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 4 2009, 09:32 PM)
Are you asking me to do it? Rob, are you double daring me like occidental?
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IC3 accepts online Internet crime complaints from either the person who believes they were defrauded or from a third party to the complainant
In what way was Meem defrauded by MJ?
Perhaps Meem should report MJ. I'm sure the Internet Cops could use a laugh.
Anyone who takes internet threats seriously is moderately retarded.
Anyone who posts identifiable personal information on the internet is severely retarded.
Meem, I'm not sure that the internet is the right place for you...
Anyone who posts identifiable personal information on the internet is severely retarded.
Meem, I'm not sure that the internet is the right place for you...
Ok, but I'm going to look into it more and find the best avenue to pursue on Monday after my final. I have a neighbor that's a lawyer, I'm sure he will be interested in taking a look at it. Pretty sure it will have solid legs in civil court.
Pretty sure I'll need to file a police report too, and then call the fbi, and not use the Internet.
Lets see what the law says, since there is no law here.
Why do I have to take it seriously? Am I? Maybe I should like he implied, he after all has on many occasions indicated a history of violence, and how he seemed to enjoy it. And then makes sociopath remarks ... further still ... on the sociopathic thread ... after he has already made them else where. Since when does seeking resolve or reproach make someone retarded? Before or after they are sucker punched, continuously assaulted, and implied worthy of being shot, then becoming dumb enough to actually link 2+2 together out-right.
Anyways. I'm done with this end of my interaction on this forum. Sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite.
Pretty sure I'll need to file a police report too, and then call the fbi, and not use the Internet.
Lets see what the law says, since there is no law here.
Why do I have to take it seriously? Am I? Maybe I should like he implied, he after all has on many occasions indicated a history of violence, and how he seemed to enjoy it. And then makes sociopath remarks ... further still ... on the sociopathic thread ... after he has already made them else where. Since when does seeking resolve or reproach make someone retarded? Before or after they are sucker punched, continuously assaulted, and implied worthy of being shot, then becoming dumb enough to actually link 2+2 together out-right.
Anyways. I'm done with this end of my interaction on this forum. Sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 4 2009, 10:04 PM)
Ok, but I'm going to look into it more and find the best avenue to pursue on monday after my final. I have a neighbor that's a lwyer, I'm sure he will be interested in taking a look at it. Pretty sure it will have solid legs in civil court.
Please do. Call up your lawyer, set up an appointment, show him the website, and pay him $350 or more per hour to talk to you. I find the thought of you wasting your time, money and energy trying to go after me to be the epitome of "hilarious".
Hey, if this gets your whiny butt off this site, I'm all for it!
Please do. Call up your lawyer, set up an appointment, show him the website, and pay him $350 or more per hour to talk to you. I find the thought of you wasting your time, money and energy trying to go after me to be the epitome of "hilarious".
QUOTE
Pretty sure I'll need to file a polie report too, and then call the fbi, and not use the internet.
Hey, if this gets your whiny butt off this site, I'm all for it!
You know I think I am truly terrified now that you mentioned and now that I keep reading these things over and over, I might require mental health therapy. I shouldn't have to pay for it. I think my paranoia is taking over. I don't know if I will ever be able to sleep comfortably again. What kind of world are we living in where people say such things, what if this were you, or someone you knew, would say nothing, would you do nothing? I hearing things. I won't be back I am truly terrified. You win mjolnir, you don't have to shoot me. Please don't show up at my house.
and to answer questions about to whom, and what
https://complaint.ic3.gov/ctf.aspx
Actually be smart enough to go through the complaint form where it gets to the death threats section.
and to answer questions about to whom, and what
https://complaint.ic3.gov/ctf.aspx
Actually be smart enough to go through the complaint form where it gets to the death threats section.
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 4 2009, 10:19 PM)
and INTERNET LAWYERS.
From the link:
That's what's on my mind right now.
From the link:
QUOTE
And of course, everyone gets a laugh when, on the advice of an e-lawyer, some aggrieved party actually consults a real attorney and has to pay $200 to be laughed at and told they have no case.
That's what's on my mind right now.
QUOTE
Anyways. I'm done with this end of my interaction on this forum
Empty promises.
This is more interesting.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/24/new.je...rest/index.html
(CNN) -- A blogger and Internet radio talk-show host in New Jersey was arrested Wednesday for allegedly threatening to kill three federal appeals court judges in Chicago, Illinois.
The judges had recently upheld a ban on handguns in Chicago and suburban Oak Park.
A federal complaint filed in Chicago said that Hal Turner, 47, had posted "outrage" on his Web site over the handgun decision by Chief Judge Frank Easterbrook and Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer of the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
According to the complaint, Turner described the court decision in a June 2 posting and said, "Let me be the first to say this plainly: These judges deserve to be killed."
The postings included photos, contact information and room numbers of the judges along with a picture and map of the building in which they work, the complaint said.
"We take threats to federal judges very seriously. Period," said Patrick J. Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois.
FBI agents, carrying a search warrant, arrested Turner at his home in North Bergen, New Jersey. He was charged with threatening to assault and kill the three judges with intent to retaliate against them for performing official duties, the complaint said.
Turner is scheduled to make a court appearance Thursday in federal district court in Newark.
Turner has been known to post the names and home addresses of judges he believes are on the wrong side of conservative issues, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups.
The center calls Turner's threats "legendary."
This case would set a
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=precedent
This case would set a
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=precedent
–noun
1. Law. a legal decision or form of proceeding serving as an authoritative rule or pattern in future similar or analogous cases.
2. any act, decision, or case that serves as a guide or justification for subsequent situations.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/24/new.je...rest/index.html
QUOTE
(CNN) -- A blogger and Internet radio talk-show host in New Jersey was arrested Wednesday for allegedly threatening to kill three federal appeals court judges in Chicago, Illinois.
The judges had recently upheld a ban on handguns in Chicago and suburban Oak Park.
A federal complaint filed in Chicago said that Hal Turner, 47, had posted "outrage" on his Web site over the handgun decision by Chief Judge Frank Easterbrook and Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer of the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
According to the complaint, Turner described the court decision in a June 2 posting and said, "Let me be the first to say this plainly: These judges deserve to be killed."
The postings included photos, contact information and room numbers of the judges along with a picture and map of the building in which they work, the complaint said.
"We take threats to federal judges very seriously. Period," said Patrick J. Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois.
FBI agents, carrying a search warrant, arrested Turner at his home in North Bergen, New Jersey. He was charged with threatening to assault and kill the three judges with intent to retaliate against them for performing official duties, the complaint said.
Turner is scheduled to make a court appearance Thursday in federal district court in Newark.
Turner has been known to post the names and home addresses of judges he believes are on the wrong side of conservative issues, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups.
The center calls Turner's threats "legendary."
This case would set a
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=precedent
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
(CNN) -- A blogger and Internet radio talk-show host in New Jersey was arrested Wednesday for allegedly threatening to kill three federal appeals court judges in Chicago, Illinois. The judges had recently upheld a ban on handguns in Chicago and suburban Oak Park. A federal complaint filed in Chicago said that Hal Turner, 47, had posted "outrage" on his Web site over the handgun decision by Chief Judge Frank Easterbrook and Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer of the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. According to the complaint, Turner described the court decision in a June 2 posting and said, "Let me be the first to say this plainly: These judges deserve to be killed." The postings included photos, contact information and room numbers of the judges along with a picture and map of the building in which they work, the complaint said. "We take threats to federal judges very seriously. Period," said Patrick J. Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois. FBI agents, carrying a search warrant, arrested Turner at his home in North Bergen, New Jersey. He was charged with threatening to assault and kill the three judges with intent to retaliate against them for performing official duties, the complaint said. Turner is scheduled to make a court appearance Thursday in federal district court in Newark. Turner has been known to post the names and home addresses of judges he believes are on the wrong side of conservative issues, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups. The center calls Turner's threats "legendary." |
This case would set a
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=precedent
–noun
1. Law. a legal decision or form of proceeding serving as an authoritative rule or pattern in future similar or analogous cases.
2. any act, decision, or case that serves as a guide or justification for subsequent situations.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 4 2009, 10:38 PM)
This is more interesting.
This case would set a precedent
Do you constantly post dictionary definitions so that you can remember what the word means? Or do you do it just to be condescending?
It's not a precedent because:
1) We don't have your name.
2) You don't have our names.
3) No-one here has any motive to harm you.
4) No-one here cares enough to harm you.
You really need to explore the internet a bit more. I suggest starting here: Encyclopedia Dramatica.
This case would set a precedent
Do you constantly post dictionary definitions so that you can remember what the word means? Or do you do it just to be condescending?
It's not a precedent because:
1) We don't have your name.
2) You don't have our names.
3) No-one here has any motive to harm you.
4) No-one here cares enough to harm you.
You really need to explore the internet a bit more. I suggest starting here: Encyclopedia Dramatica.
Meem
I am willing to wager my presence here on your internet legal case.
If you sue and succeed... I will leave this forum... or post a most sincere apology for anything you care to name.
Let's look at Mjolnir's crimes...
Seems like a good warning to me.
Seems like a good warning to me.
If you were in any front line combat unit in the Army, I promise you'd have had a friendly fire 'accident' on your first mission, with that attitude.
Not a threat.
Specifically here he is stating that if he had to chose between his friends dying and you dying, he would rather see you dead than them.
Not a threat.
Specifically here he is stating that if he had to chose between his friends dying and you dying, he would rather see you dead than them.
Not a threat.
There was a guy in my unit named Roberts whom I couldn't stand. I'd sucker punched him or straight up fought him a dozen times, insulted him constantly, never spent any time with him that I didn't absolutely have to, and even told his girlfriend he was screwing hookers while he was on post so she'd break up with him (it didn't work), but I'd never even consider shooting him or doing anything to send him up to a hospital. He was a jackass and an idiot, but he knew when to shut up and drop our personal issues, and he certainly didn't whine about being mistreated, even though most of the other guys tended to take my side in most arguments
A weird introspective moment... but not a threat.
Well... I will wait and see.
You got my bet. Care to match it?
Ut oh, now it's we. Guilt by association! Voluntary I might add, Freudian slip? This must be some college clique that has taken over the forum, and is now running a club and still acts like a bunch of kids. Playing dangerous internet games.
Ut oh, now it's we. Guilt by association! Voluntary I might add, Freudian slip? This must be some college clique that has taken over the forum, and is now running a club and still acts like a bunch of kids. Playing dangerous internet games.
Such a shame I know your name, hometown and former career, then. That's the sort of information a sociopath might put to ill use...
QUOTE
If you were in any front line combat unit in the Army, I promise you'd have had a friendly fire 'accident' on your first mission, with that attitude.
QUOTE
Having a whiny baѕtard who holds grudges at all costs and can't admit when he's wrong (can't compromise anything) in a combat unit is likely to get more than one person killed. So when the shooting starts, the other members will quickly do the math, and pick one dead jackass over 2 dead buddies any day. I'd certainly do that math, and make the same choice myself
QUOTE
There was a guy in my unit named Roberts whom I couldn't stand. I'd sucker punched him or straight up fought him a dozen times, insulted him constantly, never spent any time with him that I didn't absolutely have to, and even told his girlfriend he was screwing hookers while he was on post so she'd break up with him (it didn't work), but I'd never even consider shooting him or doing anything to send him up to a hospital. He was a jackass and an idiot, but he knew when to shut up and drop our personal issues, and he certainly didn't whine about being mistreated, even though most of the other guys tended to take my side in most arguments
I am willing to wager my presence here on your internet legal case.
If you sue and succeed... I will leave this forum... or post a most sincere apology for anything you care to name.
Let's look at Mjolnir's crimes...
QUOTE
Such a shame I know your name, hometown and former career, then. That's the sort of information a sociopath might put to ill use...
Seems like a good warning to me.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| Such a shame I know your name, hometown and former career, then. That's the sort of information a sociopath might put to ill use... |
Seems like a good warning to me.
If you were in any front line combat unit in the Army, I promise you'd have had a friendly fire 'accident' on your first mission, with that attitude.
Not a threat.
QUOTE
Having a whiny baѕtard who holds grudges at all costs and can't admit when he's wrong (can't compromise anything) in a combat unit is likely to get more than one person killed. So when the shooting starts, the other members will quickly do the math, and pick one dead jackass over 2 dead buddies any day. I'd certainly do that math, and make the same choice myself
Specifically here he is stating that if he had to chose between his friends dying and you dying, he would rather see you dead than them.
Not a threat.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| Having a whiny baѕtard who holds grudges at all costs and can't admit when he's wrong (can't compromise anything) in a combat unit is likely to get more than one person killed. So when the shooting starts, the other members will quickly do the math, and pick one dead jackass over 2 dead buddies any day. I'd certainly do that math, and make the same choice myself |
Specifically here he is stating that if he had to chose between his friends dying and you dying, he would rather see you dead than them.
Not a threat.
There was a guy in my unit named Roberts whom I couldn't stand. I'd sucker punched him or straight up fought him a dozen times, insulted him constantly, never spent any time with him that I didn't absolutely have to, and even told his girlfriend he was screwing hookers while he was on post so she'd break up with him (it didn't work), but I'd never even consider shooting him or doing anything to send him up to a hospital. He was a jackass and an idiot, but he knew when to shut up and drop our personal issues, and he certainly didn't whine about being mistreated, even though most of the other guys tended to take my side in most arguments
A weird introspective moment... but not a threat.
Well... I will wait and see.
You got my bet. Care to match it?
QUOTE
1) We don't have your name
Ut oh, now it's we. Guilt by association! Voluntary I might add, Freudian slip? This must be some college clique that has taken over the forum, and is now running a club and still acts like a bunch of kids. Playing dangerous internet games.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| 1) We don't have your name |
Ut oh, now it's we. Guilt by association! Voluntary I might add, Freudian slip? This must be some college clique that has taken over the forum, and is now running a club and still acts like a bunch of kids. Playing dangerous internet games.
Such a shame I know your name, hometown and former career, then. That's the sort of information a sociopath might put to ill use...
QUOTE
QUOTE
If you were in any front line combat unit in the Army, I promise you'd have had a friendly fire 'accident' on your first mission, with that attitude.
QUOTE
Having a whiny baѕtard who holds grudges at all costs and can't admit when he's wrong (can't compromise anything) in a combat unit is likely to get more than one person killed. So when the shooting starts, the other members will quickly do the math, and pick one dead jackass over 2 dead buddies any day. I'd certainly do that math, and make the same choice myself
QUOTE
There was a guy in my unit named Roberts whom I couldn't stand. I'd sucker punched him or straight up fought him a dozen times, insulted him constantly, never spent any time with him that I didn't absolutely have to, and even told his girlfriend he was screwing hookers while he was on post so she'd break up with him (it didn't work), but I'd never even consider shooting him or doing anything to send him up to a hospital. He was a jackass and an idiot, but he knew when to shut up and drop our personal issues, and he certainly didn't whine about being mistreated, even though most of the other guys tended to take my side in most arguments
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 4 2009, 10:38 PM)
This is more interesting.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/24/new.je...rest/index.html
This case would set a
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=precedent
Indeed, this case could be cited by a party in a future case.
But let's not forget the rest of the article, you quote mining deceptive fraud of a REMF with nothing better to do with your life than lie about yourself and others on the internet:
This case would set a
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=precedent
Indeed, this case could be cited by a party in a future case.
But let's not forget the rest of the article, you quote mining deceptive fraud of a REMF with nothing better to do with your life than lie about yourself and others on the internet:
The center's Web site posts some examples. About former President George W. Bush, Turner once said: "A well-placed bullet can solve a lot of problems," according to the center's Web site.
Turner has also written that "we need to start SHOOTING AND KILLING Mexicans as they cross the border" and has argued that killing certain federal judges "may be illegal, but it wouldn't be wrong," according to the center's site.
So go call up your lawyer now. Go file a police report. We're all waiting on the news with breathless anticipation.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/24/new.je...rest/index.html
QUOTE
(CNN) -- A blogger and Internet radio talk-show host in New Jersey was arrested Wednesday for allegedly threatening to kill three federal appeals court judges in Chicago, Illinois.
The judges had recently upheld a ban on handguns in Chicago and suburban Oak Park.
A federal complaint filed in Chicago said that Hal Turner, 47, had posted "outrage" on his Web site over the handgun decision by Chief Judge Frank Easterbrook and Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer of the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
According to the complaint, Turner described the court decision in a June 2 posting and said, "Let me be the first to say this plainly: These judges deserve to be killed."
The postings included photos, contact information and room numbers of the judges along with a picture and map of the building in which they work, the complaint said.
"We take threats to federal judges very seriously. Period," said Patrick J. Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois.
FBI agents, carrying a search warrant, arrested Turner at his home in North Bergen, New Jersey. He was charged with threatening to assault and kill the three judges with intent to retaliate against them for performing official duties, the complaint said.
Turner is scheduled to make a court appearance Thursday in federal district court in Newark.
Turner has been known to post the names and home addresses of judges he believes are on the wrong side of conservative issues, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups.
The center calls Turner's threats "legendary."
The judges had recently upheld a ban on handguns in Chicago and suburban Oak Park.
A federal complaint filed in Chicago said that Hal Turner, 47, had posted "outrage" on his Web site over the handgun decision by Chief Judge Frank Easterbrook and Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer of the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
According to the complaint, Turner described the court decision in a June 2 posting and said, "Let me be the first to say this plainly: These judges deserve to be killed."
The postings included photos, contact information and room numbers of the judges along with a picture and map of the building in which they work, the complaint said.
"We take threats to federal judges very seriously. Period," said Patrick J. Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois.
FBI agents, carrying a search warrant, arrested Turner at his home in North Bergen, New Jersey. He was charged with threatening to assault and kill the three judges with intent to retaliate against them for performing official duties, the complaint said.
Turner is scheduled to make a court appearance Thursday in federal district court in Newark.
Turner has been known to post the names and home addresses of judges he believes are on the wrong side of conservative issues, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups.
The center calls Turner's threats "legendary."
This case would set a
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=precedent
Indeed, this case could be cited by a party in a future case.
But let's not forget the rest of the article, you quote mining deceptive fraud of a REMF with nothing better to do with your life than lie about yourself and others on the internet:
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| (CNN) -- A blogger and Internet radio talk-show host in New Jersey was arrested Wednesday for allegedly threatening to kill three federal appeals court judges in Chicago, Illinois. The judges had recently upheld a ban on handguns in Chicago and suburban Oak Park. A federal complaint filed in Chicago said that Hal Turner, 47, had posted "outrage" on his Web site over the handgun decision by Chief Judge Frank Easterbrook and Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer of the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. According to the complaint, Turner described the court decision in a June 2 posting and said, "Let me be the first to say this plainly: These judges deserve to be killed." The postings included photos, contact information and room numbers of the judges along with a picture and map of the building in which they work, the complaint said. "We take threats to federal judges very seriously. Period," said Patrick J. Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois. FBI agents, carrying a search warrant, arrested Turner at his home in North Bergen, New Jersey. He was charged with threatening to assault and kill the three judges with intent to retaliate against them for performing official duties, the complaint said. Turner is scheduled to make a court appearance Thursday in federal district court in Newark. Turner has been known to post the names and home addresses of judges he believes are on the wrong side of conservative issues, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups. The center calls Turner's threats "legendary." |
This case would set a
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=precedent
Indeed, this case could be cited by a party in a future case.
But let's not forget the rest of the article, you quote mining deceptive fraud of a REMF with nothing better to do with your life than lie about yourself and others on the internet:
The center's Web site posts some examples. About former President George W. Bush, Turner once said: "A well-placed bullet can solve a lot of problems," according to the center's Web site.
Turner has also written that "we need to start SHOOTING AND KILLING Mexicans as they cross the border" and has argued that killing certain federal judges "may be illegal, but it wouldn't be wrong," according to the center's site.
So go call up your lawyer now. Go file a police report. We're all waiting on the news with breathless anticipation.
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+)
Do you constantly post dictionary definitions so that you can remember what the word means? Or do you do it just to be condescending? It's not a precedent because:
1) We don't have your name.
2) You don't have our names.
3) No-one here has any motive to harm you.
4) No-one here cares enough to harm you.
Actually, number 1 is wrong. Meem was kind enough to provide a link to his myspace page, which contains his first and last name, as well as his hometown.
But it doesn't matter, anyways. The other three points are completely true, and there's also point number 5:
I have yet to actually threaten him, and considering the dim view I take of people who stoop to threatening others anonymously, it's not likely to ever happen.
If I actually wanted to hurt him, I'd most certainly not tell him about it beforehand. He'd be walking down the road one day only to have a crazy Norwegian jump out of nowhere, whoop his aѕѕ and run off, cackling like the wicked witch of the west.
But again, that would require me to care enough to to expend energy on this REMF.
1) We don't have your name.
2) You don't have our names.
3) No-one here has any motive to harm you.
4) No-one here cares enough to harm you.
Actually, number 1 is wrong. Meem was kind enough to provide a link to his myspace page, which contains his first and last name, as well as his hometown.
But it doesn't matter, anyways. The other three points are completely true, and there's also point number 5:
I have yet to actually threaten him, and considering the dim view I take of people who stoop to threatening others anonymously, it's not likely to ever happen.
If I actually wanted to hurt him, I'd most certainly not tell him about it beforehand. He'd be walking down the road one day only to have a crazy Norwegian jump out of nowhere, whoop his aѕѕ and run off, cackling like the wicked witch of the west.
But again, that would require me to care enough to to expend energy on this REMF.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 4 2009, 10:48 PM)
Ut oh, now it's we. Guilt by association! Voluntary I might add, Freudian slip? This must be some college clique that has taken over the forum, and is now running a club and still acts like a bunch of kids. Playing dangerous internet games.
Are you brain-dead? You aren't ready for the internet. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Guilt by association? Your posts here are on the public record. Anything that one of us knows is something that all of us know. Don't be stupid. What's with the feedback? I follow the in-crowd? really? Have you been watching too many after-school specials?
Are you brain-dead? You aren't ready for the internet. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Guilt by association? Your posts here are on the public record. Anything that one of us knows is something that all of us know. Don't be stupid. What's with the feedback? I follow the in-crowd? really? Have you been watching too many after-school specials?
I don't need to go to court for what I already know.
This place is a joke. None of the people but flying and myself, (don't cringe flying, it's ok think, I'm not saying you're my buddy, don't fear the ridicule of the in-mob)
have present any threads, worth a crap, since I have been here. Just overzealous critiques, whom still wet the bed, no doubt.
The older people whom are really mature, have been smart enough to stay away from the nonsense ... and sometimes, I question how many secret identities there might be on this forum ... so who knows what's totally going on, but it is mostly certain a cheap charade, not worthy of any notoriety academically nor comically.
That is the truth, and final word. I'm gonna peep in to get a communication from Ron. You can ban me or do whatever you'd like afterwards. Neg me to hell, if that's what gets your rocks off.
Go back to class and keep your nose pressed to your books. You might learn something, who knows.
Mjolnir, I bet you're a LEG.
This place is a joke. None of the people but flying and myself, (don't cringe flying, it's ok think, I'm not saying you're my buddy, don't fear the ridicule of the in-mob)
have present any threads, worth a crap, since I have been here. Just overzealous critiques, whom still wet the bed, no doubt.
The older people whom are really mature, have been smart enough to stay away from the nonsense ... and sometimes, I question how many secret identities there might be on this forum ... so who knows what's totally going on, but it is mostly certain a cheap charade, not worthy of any notoriety academically nor comically.
That is the truth, and final word. I'm gonna peep in to get a communication from Ron. You can ban me or do whatever you'd like afterwards. Neg me to hell, if that's what gets your rocks off.
Go back to class and keep your nose pressed to your books. You might learn something, who knows.
Mjolnir, I bet you're a LEG.
QUOTE (RobDegraves+Jul 4 2009, 10:46 PM)
A weird introspective moment... but not a threat.
Allow me to put that quote back into perspective:
Allow me to put that quote back into perspective:
QUOTE (Me+)
Having a whiny baѕtard who holds grudges at all costs and can't admit when he's wrong (can't compromise anything) in a combat unit is likely to get more than one person killed. So when the shooting starts, the other members will quickly do the math, and pick one dead jackass over 2 dead buddies any day. I'd certainly do that math, and make the same choice myself. It's about pragmatism in it's entirety. There was a guy in my unit named Roberts whom I couldn't stand. I'd sucker punched him or straight up fought him a dozen times, insulted him constantly, never spent any time with him that I didn't absolutely have to, and even told his girlfriend he was screwing hookers while he was on post so she'd break up with him (it didn't work), but I'd never even consider shooting him or doing anything to send him up to a hospital. He was a jackass and an idiot, but he knew when to shut up and drop our personal issues, and he certainly didn't whine about being mistreated, even though most of the other guys tended to take my side in most arguments. He was an asset to our unit, first and foremost.
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...ndpost&p=419585
Good idea.... I think I will do that.
MjolnirPants
It's still a weird introspective moment.. you have to admit.
Apparently it is.
Talent is like a marksman who hits a target that others cannot reach; genius is like the marksman who hits a target others cannot even see. (Schopenhauer).
When a true genius appears in this world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. (Jonathan Swift)
To vouch this is no proof
Without more certain and more overt tests
Than these thin habits and poor likelihoods
Of modern seeming do prefer against him.
- William Shakespeare
Woohoo I am so delusional!
lets just exchange with quotes, you should appreciate that since you like history.
I'm sorry, I don't seem to understand what exactly you're proving then. You just totally negated your own statement point, by stating. Just, like this one ...
And do remember, I am the person prone to paranoia, delusion, and being stupid. Oh, I am also liar and a thief that likes to lie about making a mistake when presenting my thoughts, backed up by definitions to prove a concept to people whom don't even seem to realize what they are saying.
I'm sorry, I don't seem to understand what exactly you're proving then. You just totally negated your own statement point, by stating. Just, like this one ...
And do remember, I am the person prone to paranoia, delusion, and being stupid. Oh, I am also liar and a thief that likes to lie about making a mistake when presenting my thoughts, backed up by definitions to prove a concept to people whom don't even seem to realize what they are saying.
Almost every wise saying has an opposite one, no less wise, to balance it.
Like my theory on the NASA tether? Go "post" me wrong there, or do it here. Doe's it really matter?
Like my theory on the NASA tether? Go "post" me wrong there, or do it here. Doe's it really matter?
The reason why people say unkind things to you is because you are not considering how your statements are taken. I do not think that you are an arrogant individual, but your posts could use a little more humility. When I think I have a profound statement to make, I phrase it in the form of a question, so I can say "Here is what I'm thinking, is this off base?"
Why are my statements, not taken with consideration? Flip the coin.
There are no questions in this post.
There are no questions in this post.
No - of course they are not, and no one should be entitled to feel being provoked - and we are not dealing with misinterpretation, we are facing examples that some members feel in their good right to react hostile against ideas they do not share. Truth is a majority concept.
Truth is not a majority concept.
No matter how many people say, 1+1=3 it only takes one person to say 1+1=2.
I think something is only hard to do, as simple as that is, if one chooses to think so.
It's not hard to communicate over the internet, why should it be hard to practice empathy? If people think, they are hearing a voice when they are reading something, they sound realize that it is their own. That the person writing is not inside your heard speaking in the tone to be imagined. You have to ask questions in order to find out, then they will speak for themselves, but if you have a history of hearing this imagined voice, no matter what they say, you won't hear them, and you won't ask questions in regard to what they are saying, but only bold and brazen statements. But, not all questions should be answered or asked on a scientific forum right?
Like say what do you believe about god? Science cannot prove anything about "god-s" to be true or untrue. So the only proper question science can assume at this time is do you believe in "god-s?" There is no reason for specific claims, when science cannot answer the general one, one way or another. Science cannot either answer this about the spirituality. So the only question necessary and sufficient for science is, do you believe in spirituality? It cannot prove nor disprove this, so there is no chance or next step to get into .. without the foundational answer of the prime question. But, when I refused to answer this question, specifically what do you think it is, I was in error ... Go figure, that wasn't my voice, that was my voice in some delusional person's mind, knowing what I was saying because I could not answer a question that has no scientific basis of proof, or disprove.
People want to insist because I try to bring up things like wisdom, that somehow makes me a fool. People want to say because I am prone to human error, I am a liar. People want to say because 1+1=2 makes me self righteous, or arrogant. People want to say, I am trying to hold back some sacred knowledge, because I being deem people unworthy. People would like to say, because I ask question out of suspecting, I am paranoid.
That is all the voice in your own head, you are mistaken about what I am saying.
No, but I am completely missing the example.
QUOTE (meem+)
Mjolnir, I bet you're a LEG.
So?
So?
QUOTE
Go back to class and keep your nose pressed to your books. You might learn something, who knows.
Good idea.... I think I will do that.
MjolnirPants
It's still a weird introspective moment.. you have to admit.
QUOTE (RobDegraves+Jul 4 2009, 11:08 PM)
MjolnirPants
It's still a weird introspective moment.. you have to admit.
Oh yeah, I'm not denying it. I just wanted to make the purpose of posting it clear: It illustrates that the decision to frag someone isn't a personal one, it's a professional one.
EDIT: I also wanted to illustrate that I'm not claiming to be perfect myself. I did some stuff to that guy I had no right doing, and I freely admit doing it, and freely admit that it was wrong.
It's still a weird introspective moment.. you have to admit.
Oh yeah, I'm not denying it. I just wanted to make the purpose of posting it clear: It illustrates that the decision to frag someone isn't a personal one, it's a professional one.
EDIT: I also wanted to illustrate that I'm not claiming to be perfect myself. I did some stuff to that guy I had no right doing, and I freely admit doing it, and freely admit that it was wrong.
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 4 2009, 10:56 PM)
Are you brain-dead? You aren't ready for the Internet. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Guilt by association? Your posts here are on the public record. Anything that one of us knows is something that all of us know. Don't be stupid. What's with the feedback? I follow the in-crowd? really? Have you been watching too many after-school specials?
I'm retarded remember, wow, you guys have short term memory loss. Have you ever heard of feeding the pig? How about sarcasm? Wait, I do remember now,
And apparently so does everyone else that took me seriously, like a bunch of dumb little kids.
What do I have to be afraid of?
a troll?
Maybe I should whip out some more Tolkien comments. Ohh wait I know ever better!! You all think you're so smart, but your not smart, you're smutty.
I'm the whiny "gay" retard teacher that shouldn't teach right? keep that in mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxzoLofwiV8&feature=related
With love, Meem.
I would also like to point how Mjolnir got a little scared and tried to indicate I was an asset, that was a HUGE reversal, I'm proud of you.
I'm retarded remember, wow, you guys have short term memory loss. Have you ever heard of feeding the pig? How about sarcasm? Wait, I do remember now,
QUOTE
I fail at sarcasim.
And apparently so does everyone else that took me seriously, like a bunch of dumb little kids.
What do I have to be afraid of?
a troll?
Maybe I should whip out some more Tolkien comments. Ohh wait I know ever better!! You all think you're so smart, but your not smart, you're smutty.
I'm the whiny "gay" retard teacher that shouldn't teach right? keep that in mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxzoLofwiV8&feature=related
With love, Meem.
I would also like to point how Mjolnir got a little scared and tried to indicate I was an asset, that was a HUGE reversal, I'm proud of you.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 4 2009, 11:11 PM)
I would also like to point how Mjolnir got a little sacred and tried to indicate I was an asset, that was a HUGE reversal, i'm proud of you.
You're really delusional, you know that?
You're really delusional, you know that?
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 4 2009, 11:11 PM)
I'm retarded remember, wow, you guys have short term memory loss. Have you ever heard of feeding the pig? How about sarcasm? Wait, I do remember now,
And apparently so does everyone else that took me seriously, like a bunch of dumb little kids.
Meem,
It's too late for sarcasm. You aren't funny. Keep using your age superiority complex to feign intelligence. It's worked out so well for you so far.
Please do what you said you would. Leave.
And apparently so does everyone else that took me seriously, like a bunch of dumb little kids.
Meem,
It's too late for sarcasm. You aren't funny. Keep using your age superiority complex to feign intelligence. It's worked out so well for you so far.
Please do what you said you would. Leave.
No bud, I'm really good at games. I mean go back and look at the highlighted section? What does that indicate to anyone with eyes? Don't get all damn "Meemy" about it, just be freaking honest, is it that hard?
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just be freaking honest, is it that hard?
Apparently it is.
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Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. (Albert Einstein)
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| QUOTE |
| Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. (Albert Einstein) |
Talent is like a marksman who hits a target that others cannot reach; genius is like the marksman who hits a target others cannot even see. (Schopenhauer).
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When a true genius appears in this world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. (Jonathan Swift)
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| QUOTE |
When a true genius appears in this world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. (Jonathan Swift) |
To vouch this is no proof
Without more certain and more overt tests
Than these thin habits and poor likelihoods
Of modern seeming do prefer against him.
- William Shakespeare
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When a man points a finger at someone else, he should remember that four of his fingers are pointing at himself.
- Louis Nizer
- Louis Nizer
Woohoo I am so delusional!
I take it that all you can really accomplish is to reflect the glory of those who had their own light.
George Santayana
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Almost every wise saying has an opposite one, no less wise, to balance it.
George Santayana
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Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
George Santayana
George Santayana
lets just exchange with quotes, you should appreciate that since you like history.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 5 2009, 01:10 AM)
lets just exchange with quotes, you should appreciate that since you like history.
That has to be the laziest and most irrelevant form of argument you have come up with so far. Are you really calling yourself a genius by posting all those quotes about how geniuses are misunderstood?
Let's spell it out:
New unfounded unpopular uneducated idea != genius
I'm sorry, but if I state that "God is a giant chicken" I do not have any more or less credibility than you.
That has to be the laziest and most irrelevant form of argument you have come up with so far. Are you really calling yourself a genius by posting all those quotes about how geniuses are misunderstood?
Let's spell it out:
New unfounded unpopular uneducated idea != genius
I'm sorry, but if I state that "God is a giant chicken" I do not have any more or less credibility than you.
QUOTE
I'm sorry, but if I state that "God is a giant chicken" I do not have any more or less credibility than you.
I'm sorry, I don't seem to understand what exactly you're proving then. You just totally negated your own statement point, by stating. Just, like this one ...
And do remember, I am the person prone to paranoia, delusion, and being stupid. Oh, I am also liar and a thief that likes to lie about making a mistake when presenting my thoughts, backed up by definitions to prove a concept to people whom don't even seem to realize what they are saying.
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| QUOTE |
| I'm sorry, but if I state that "God is a giant chicken" I do not have any more or less credibility than you. |
I'm sorry, I don't seem to understand what exactly you're proving then. You just totally negated your own statement point, by stating. Just, like this one ...
And do remember, I am the person prone to paranoia, delusion, and being stupid. Oh, I am also liar and a thief that likes to lie about making a mistake when presenting my thoughts, backed up by definitions to prove a concept to people whom don't even seem to realize what they are saying.
Almost every wise saying has an opposite one, no less wise, to balance it.
QUOTE
New unfounded unpopular uneducated idea != genius
Like my theory on the NASA tether? Go "post" me wrong there, or do it here. Doe's it really matter?
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| QUOTE |
| New unfounded unpopular uneducated idea != genius |
Like my theory on the NASA tether? Go "post" me wrong there, or do it here. Doe's it really matter?
The reason why people say unkind things to you is because you are not considering how your statements are taken. I do not think that you are an arrogant individual, but your posts could use a little more humility. When I think I have a profound statement to make, I phrase it in the form of a question, so I can say "Here is what I'm thinking, is this off base?"
Why are my statements, not taken with consideration? Flip the coin.
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bukh, Looks like you misunderstood
There are no questions in this post.
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| QUOTE |
| bukh, Looks like you misunderstood |
There are no questions in this post.
No - of course they are not, and no one should be entitled to feel being provoked - and we are not dealing with misinterpretation, we are facing examples that some members feel in their good right to react hostile against ideas they do not share. Truth is a majority concept.
Truth is not a majority concept.
No matter how many people say, 1+1=3 it only takes one person to say 1+1=2.
QUOTE
I think something is only hard to do, as simple as that is, if one chooses to think so.
It's not hard to communicate over the internet, why should it be hard to practice empathy? If people think, they are hearing a voice when they are reading something, they sound realize that it is their own. That the person writing is not inside your heard speaking in the tone to be imagined. You have to ask questions in order to find out, then they will speak for themselves, but if you have a history of hearing this imagined voice, no matter what they say, you won't hear them, and you won't ask questions in regard to what they are saying, but only bold and brazen statements. But, not all questions should be answered or asked on a scientific forum right?
Like say what do you believe about god? Science cannot prove anything about "god-s" to be true or untrue. So the only proper question science can assume at this time is do you believe in "god-s?" There is no reason for specific claims, when science cannot answer the general one, one way or another. Science cannot either answer this about the spirituality. So the only question necessary and sufficient for science is, do you believe in spirituality? It cannot prove nor disprove this, so there is no chance or next step to get into .. without the foundational answer of the prime question. But, when I refused to answer this question, specifically what do you think it is, I was in error ... Go figure, that wasn't my voice, that was my voice in some delusional person's mind, knowing what I was saying because I could not answer a question that has no scientific basis of proof, or disprove.
People want to insist because I try to bring up things like wisdom, that somehow makes me a fool. People want to say because I am prone to human error, I am a liar. People want to say because 1+1=2 makes me self righteous, or arrogant. People want to say, I am trying to hold back some sacred knowledge, because I being deem people unworthy. People would like to say, because I ask question out of suspecting, I am paranoid.
That is all the voice in your own head, you are mistaken about what I am saying.
Meem,
You are always assuming that you are correct by using the example of 1+1=2, when you have not considered the possibility that YOU are the one trying to say that 1+1=3.
I'm sorry, but you are still completely missing the point.
You are always assuming that you are correct by using the example of 1+1=2, when you have not considered the possibility that YOU are the one trying to say that 1+1=3.
I'm sorry, but you are still completely missing the point.
QUOTE
I'm sorry, but you are still completely missing the point.
No, but I am completely missing the example.
Quote: MollyPants:
"I empathize with Trout and AlphaNumeric and Euler's frustrations at the behavior of people on this site. "
Hi Molly - nice little exercise in website social mobility, though not sure why you include the fish!
"I empathize with Trout and AlphaNumeric and Euler's frustrations at the behavior of people on this site. "
Hi Molly - nice little exercise in website social mobility, though not sure why you include the fish!
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 5 2009, 11:06 AM)
No, but I am completely missing the example.
All your complaints are based on the assumption that you are right. You have not considered that quite a few of us here can actually tell the difference between plausible ideas and techno-babble BS. It's called Critical Thinking. How else should we filter out the bad ideas and only accept the good ones?
All your complaints are based on the assumption that you are right. You have not considered that quite a few of us here can actually tell the difference between plausible ideas and techno-babble BS. It's called Critical Thinking. How else should we filter out the bad ideas and only accept the good ones?
e
"though not sure why you include the fish!"
My guess is that molly pay reverence to the fish because the fish has demonstrated this non-surpassed ability in showing frustration.
"though not sure why you include the fish!"
My guess is that molly pay reverence to the fish because the fish has demonstrated this non-surpassed ability in showing frustration.
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 5 2009, 11:40 AM)
All your complaints are based on the assumption that you are right. You have not considered that quite a few of us here can actually tell the difference between plausible ideas and techno-babble BS. It's called Critical Thinking. How else should we filter out the bad ideas and only accept the good ones?
Ok, so clearly you didn't understand what I said, because you're only "hearing" the voice in your head. Provide me of an example in which I have done this, a specific instance, not you continuing to talk about your theory of what it is you're proving, which is not my point. Something, in which I have said that illustrates your point, not something which you "think I have said" that illustrates your point. Quote me, and point it out, where I am lying, or doing whatever it is you think I am doing. That will make 1+1+1=3, rather than you think, my point is.
I said it. 1 + my point 1=2
I said,you said 1+1=2
I said, I think, you said 1+1=2 or 3?
I said, you said, I think 1+1+1=3
I made, a mistake. 1+1=2
I think, you are, a liar. 1+1=2 or 3?
I think, you made, a mistake. 1+1+1=3
Ok, so clearly you didn't understand what I said, because you're only "hearing" the voice in your head. Provide me of an example in which I have done this, a specific instance, not you continuing to talk about your theory of what it is you're proving, which is not my point. Something, in which I have said that illustrates your point, not something which you "think I have said" that illustrates your point. Quote me, and point it out, where I am lying, or doing whatever it is you think I am doing. That will make 1+1+1=3, rather than you think, my point is.
I said it. 1 + my point 1=2
I said,you said 1+1=2
I said, I think, you said 1+1=2 or 3?
I said, you said, I think 1+1+1=3
I made, a mistake. 1+1=2
I think, you are, a liar. 1+1=2 or 3?
I think, you made, a mistake. 1+1+1=3
Meem,
This:
The last sentence here:
The last sentence here:
I watched a program on Nat-Geo last night with my wife. I was utterly fascinated by it. It was a study on dogs, and their ability to observe and think. The science revealed that dogs are capable of fast mapping and would qualify them to be observers, which is also a condition required for consciousness.
The particular program is wild, topic dog genius. The idea is that their intelligence as it is perceived today is due to their interaction with us. So many thoughts and conditions to entertain, I highly recommend watching this program.
It lead me to think, we are all so often very busy trying to prove what is, that perhaps we miss seeing what is not. Would theories be better suited by starting with what we don't know, than by what we think we know?
This:
This:
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big bang.
black hole.
Cosmic, or infinite binary code?
BH -1 for ever? Just keep adding a place value to a speed of .1 at some point on some scale to light speed? At what placement would the limitation barrier occur, the EH, where light would become invisible (o l o, e l e)paradox) with current detection method/ability? 1 (before gravitational effects) , .1, .01, .001, .0001, .00001c? How far can it go? Is there a limit?
BB+1 forever 1(the "cosmic egg") the reason some observations suggest that the universe is expanding because the initial light wave from it is accelerating in space? It scales up ever so often (?) over ... time? (big bang! antigravity) .9, .99, .999, .9999, .99999c? How are we to measure for this?
Could a BB-BH be a reversal of perpendicular plane-states at a right angle intersection? A transition point perhaps? Where on condition becomes another, allowing the law of conservation and momentum to function properly? Which way are we moving in space, up or down, or is that just a matter of spin-can-ics?
black hole.
Cosmic, or infinite binary code?
BH -1 for ever? Just keep adding a place value to a speed of .1 at some point on some scale to light speed? At what placement would the limitation barrier occur, the EH, where light would become invisible (o l o, e l e)paradox) with current detection method/ability? 1 (before gravitational effects) , .1, .01, .001, .0001, .00001c? How far can it go? Is there a limit?
BB+1 forever 1(the "cosmic egg") the reason some observations suggest that the universe is expanding because the initial light wave from it is accelerating in space? It scales up ever so often (?) over ... time? (big bang! antigravity) .9, .99, .999, .9999, .99999c? How are we to measure for this?
Could a BB-BH be a reversal of perpendicular plane-states at a right angle intersection? A transition point perhaps? Where on condition becomes another, allowing the law of conservation and momentum to function properly? Which way are we moving in space, up or down, or is that just a matter of spin-can-ics?
The last sentence here:
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| QUOTE |
| big bang. black hole. Cosmic, or infinite binary code? BH -1 for ever? Just keep adding a place value to a speed of .1 at some point on some scale to light speed? At what placement would the limitation barrier occur, the EH, where light would become invisible (o l o, e l e)paradox) with current detection method/ability? 1 (before gravitational effects) , .1, .01, .001, .0001, .00001c? How far can it go? Is there a limit? BB+1 forever 1(the "cosmic egg") the reason some observations suggest that the universe is expanding because the initial light wave from it is accelerating in space? It scales up ever so often (?) over ... time? (big bang! antigravity) .9, .99, .999, .9999, .99999c? How are we to measure for this? Could a BB-BH be a reversal of perpendicular plane-states at a right angle intersection? A transition point perhaps? Where on condition becomes another, allowing the law of conservation and momentum to function properly? Which way are we moving in space, up or down, or is that just a matter of spin-can-ics? |
The last sentence here:
I watched a program on Nat-Geo last night with my wife. I was utterly fascinated by it. It was a study on dogs, and their ability to observe and think. The science revealed that dogs are capable of fast mapping and would qualify them to be observers, which is also a condition required for consciousness.
The particular program is wild, topic dog genius. The idea is that their intelligence as it is perceived today is due to their interaction with us. So many thoughts and conditions to entertain, I highly recommend watching this program.
It lead me to think, we are all so often very busy trying to prove what is, that perhaps we miss seeing what is not. Would theories be better suited by starting with what we don't know, than by what we think we know?
This:
QUOTE
Reality is made of three lines crossing one point. Space, time, and dimension.
Dimension is the obscurity, the crossing of time and space is where all the truly interesting things happen.
Dimension is the obscurity, the crossing of time and space is where all the truly interesting things happen.
Ok and in your example, you have still failed to point out, what it is YOU THINK, and where exactly it is, YOU THINK, I am wrong.
You siad, this. 1+1=2
Still not 3.
Lines/fields
Ever hear of the higgs field + ad hoc field = reality concept?
Lines/fields
Ever hear of the higgs field + ad hoc field = reality concept?
Cosmic, or infinite binary code?
BH -1 for ever? Just keep adding a place value to a speed of .1 at some point on some scale to light speed? At what placement would the limitation barrier occur, the EH, where light would become invisible (o l o, e l e)paradox) with current detection method/ability? 1 (before gravitational effects) , .1, .01, .001, .0001, .00001c? How far can it go? Is there a limit?
BB+1 forever 1(the "cosmic egg") the reason some observations suggest that the universe is expanding because the initial light wave from it is accelerating in space? It scales up ever so often (?) over ... time? (big bang! antigravity) .9, .99, .999, .9999, .99999c? How are we to measure for this?
Could a BB-BH be a reversal of perpendicular plane-states at a right angle intersection? A transition point perhaps? Where on condition becomes another, allowing the law of conservation and momentum to function properly? Which way are we moving in space, up or down, or is that just a matter of spin-can-ics?
There's an a lot of question marks in there, where are YOUR answers?
And I agree, the last sentence,
*notice I made a mistake and corrected it in grammar ... thought it's still far from perfect, like my quoting of an example.
Still a question you haven't answered. The only one you have answered is that you think, I am, a liar.
You siad, this. 1+1=2
Still not 3.
QUOTE
Reality is made of three lines crossing one point. Space, time, and dimension.
Dimension is the obscurity, the crossing of time and space is where all the truly interesting things happen.
Dimension is the obscurity, the crossing of time and space is where all the truly interesting things happen.
Lines/fields
Ever hear of the higgs field + ad hoc field = reality concept?
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| QUOTE |
| Reality is made of three lines crossing one point. Space, time, and dimension. Dimension is the obscurity, the crossing of time and space is where all the truly interesting things happen. |
Lines/fields
Ever hear of the higgs field + ad hoc field = reality concept?
Cosmic, or infinite binary code?
BH -1 for ever? Just keep adding a place value to a speed of .1 at some point on some scale to light speed? At what placement would the limitation barrier occur, the EH, where light would become invisible (o l o, e l e)paradox) with current detection method/ability? 1 (before gravitational effects) , .1, .01, .001, .0001, .00001c? How far can it go? Is there a limit?
BB+1 forever 1(the "cosmic egg") the reason some observations suggest that the universe is expanding because the initial light wave from it is accelerating in space? It scales up ever so often (?) over ... time? (big bang! antigravity) .9, .99, .999, .9999, .99999c? How are we to measure for this?
Could a BB-BH be a reversal of perpendicular plane-states at a right angle intersection? A transition point perhaps? Where on condition becomes another, allowing the law of conservation and momentum to function properly? Which way are we moving in space, up or down, or is that just a matter of spin-can-ics?
There's an a lot of question marks in there, where are YOUR answers?
And I agree, the last sentence,
QUOTE
It lead me to think, we are all so often very busy trying to prove what is, that perhaps we miss seeing what is not. Would theories be better suited by starting with what we don't know, (rather)then by what we think we know?
*notice I made a mistake and corrected it in grammar ... thought it's still far from perfect, like my quoting of an example.
Still a question you haven't answered. The only one you have answered is that you think, I am, a liar.
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 5 2009, 12:27 PM)
Ok and in your example, you have still failed to point out, what it is YOU THINK, and where exactly it is, YOU THINK, I am wrong.
This:
Is psuedo-scientific mumbo-jumbo.
This:
QUOTE
Reality is made of three lines crossing one point. Space, time, and dimension.
Dimension is the obscurity, the crossing of time and space is where all the truly interesting things happen.
Dimension is the obscurity, the crossing of time and space is where all the truly interesting things happen.
Is psuedo-scientific mumbo-jumbo.
So then the standard model, and string theory then
See, this is where I am forced to start linking things, because you ignore science, but I am not going to link what I have already said about the higgs field and the ad hoc field forming reality or dimension. And it is clearly known to indicate positive energy and vacuum energy, whatever reality is in this particular situation, where are experiencing both.
See, this is where I am forced to start linking things, because you ignore science, but I am not going to link what I have already said about the higgs field and the ad hoc field forming reality or dimension. And it is clearly known to indicate positive energy and vacuum energy, whatever reality is in this particular situation, where are experiencing both.
When I think I have a profound statement to make, I phrase it in the form of a question, so I can say "Here is what I'm thinking, is this off base?" Some people on this forum, worst of all amrit and magpies, post things as indisputable fact. Even if they have something worthwhile to say, they destroy it with arrogance and their own misunderstandings.
And if, you don't think a BH could not possibly be associated with vacuum energy, nor a BB with positive energy, then I think you know less about science then what you claim, I don't know.
QUOTE
Is psuedo-scientific mumbo-jumbo.
See, this is where I am forced to start linking things, because you ignore science, but I am not going to link what I have already said about the higgs field and the ad hoc field forming reality or dimension. And it is clearly known to indicate positive energy and vacuum energy, whatever reality is in this particular situation, where are experiencing both.
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| QUOTE |
| Is psuedo-scientific mumbo-jumbo. |
See, this is where I am forced to start linking things, because you ignore science, but I am not going to link what I have already said about the higgs field and the ad hoc field forming reality or dimension. And it is clearly known to indicate positive energy and vacuum energy, whatever reality is in this particular situation, where are experiencing both.
When I think I have a profound statement to make, I phrase it in the form of a question, so I can say "Here is what I'm thinking, is this off base?" Some people on this forum, worst of all amrit and magpies, post things as indisputable fact. Even if they have something worthwhile to say, they destroy it with arrogance and their own misunderstandings.
And if, you don't think a BH could not possibly be associated with vacuum energy, nor a BB with positive energy, then I think you know less about science then what you claim, I don't know.
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 3 2009, 11:07 PM)
Since the internet is notably devoid of non-verbal cues and many other human communication patterns, is internet communication also devoid of empathy? This might explain why people resort to insults more quickly on the 'net then they do IRL. Any thoughts?
I'm positive this is a huge factor.
I have been in many discussions on other forums where people took offense at what I was saying on the basis of "tone", even when I was agreeing with them. Then the thread would end up turning into an argument because it seemed as though no matter what I said or did, they would always end up taking away the exact opposite of what I was trying say.
I'm positive this is a huge factor.
I have been in many discussions on other forums where people took offense at what I was saying on the basis of "tone", even when I was agreeing with them. Then the thread would end up turning into an argument because it seemed as though no matter what I said or did, they would always end up taking away the exact opposite of what I was trying say.
Do you think it possible that a hostile and/or malicious individual might find a way to express hostility/malice whatever you post? [edit -] However you post it.
Most assuredly, if not in their way, or in the way they would like to wish I were.
If you were with a group of people and one of them spent a lot of time rolling on the floor laughing - would you find that behaviour strange? Is it possible that you might conclude a certain lack of sincerity is involved?
Or mental illness/disorder? Please express you views honestly ..
And the guy that does this :- 
or this:-
Is it difficult to conclude that they are hoping you'll shortly end up wanting to shove their
up their 
?
or this:-
Is it difficult to conclude that they are hoping you'll shortly end up wanting to shove their
up their ?
Absence of non-verbal clues?
Do not you think we might (often) be looking at 'malice' - pure and simple? Maybe let rip because of the anonymity - but malice all the same - you agree? You disagree?
Do not you think we might (often) be looking at 'malice' - pure and simple? Maybe let rip because of the anonymity - but malice all the same - you agree? You disagree?
I mean honestly, just look in this thread .... at the play threats and indications as well the other ones, that are "not what I was really saying about you." And then in the sociopath thread, says it again. Perhaps I really should file a report? Or should I just keep my gun loaded?
In just about every forum I've been in, there's always one paranoid wacko who threatens legal action and feels they're being stalked.
It's not the medium, it's the paranoid.
It's not the medium, it's the paranoid.
QUOTE (Confused2+Jul 5 2009, 02:43 PM)
If you were with a group of people and one of them spent a lot of time rolling on the floor laughing - would you find that behaviour strange? Is it possible that you might conclude a certain lack of sincerity is involved?
I mean, like I would like to point out from various lessons in history, the Nazis thought what was funny? The KKK thought what was funny? A large group of friends on this forum think what is funny? The harm, or "play" harm of another. It's rather revolting.
I mean, like I would like to point out from various lessons in history, the Nazis thought what was funny? The KKK thought what was funny? A large group of friends on this forum think what is funny? The harm, or "play" harm of another. It's rather revolting.
Is it possible that your average sociopath is smart enough to realise that
Knifing people = Small cell without key ?
But on the Internet ..
Whaay haay .. anonymously ..
Could it be that Internet doesn't actually create sociopaths - it just let's 'em out of the cage?
Knifing people = Small cell without key ?
But on the Internet ..
Whaay haay .. anonymously ..
Could it be that Internet doesn't actually create sociopaths - it just let's 'em out of the cage?
QUOTE (AlexG+Jul 5 2009, 03:11 PM)
In just about every forum I've been in, there's always one paranoid wacko who threatens legal action and feels they're being stalked.
It's not the medium, it's the paranoid.
See, a blatant disrespect for the fact that it was insinuated that I should be assaulted, shot, lied about before I insinuated legal action, yet further ... proving my very point,
His paranoia of me, what he thinks about me, is not true, and the only way he could prove is by being a doctor and giving me some sort of validating test. Because that would "prove" right, because these things are so hard to see?
Look at myspace page, I took an online disorder test, seem to be in far batter mental health than the web average. But I suppose that test isn't good enough.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
Personality Diorder Test, Similarminds.com your avg/web avg
Paranoid |||| 14% 49%
Schizoid |||||| 26% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||| 46% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||| 34% 47%
Borderline || 10% 47%
Histrionic |||||| 30% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||| 38% 41%
Avoidant |||||| 22% 39%
Dependent |||||| 26% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||| 50% 40
Notice the extremely low score on paranoia, borderline, avoidant, and dependent.
I think all of those are very mater of fact terms. Of course, though I am the paranoid one, the liar, etc. etc. and I have just made this up, and I lie to all the people that know me, and friends that view or e-mail me through myspace, because I am so paranoid, that I have the guts to make my identity public.
No twisted sense of reality there. I can't imagine what it must not be like to not be in-control of your own life, to be able to make a choice because you are so paranoid of popular opinion and chance that you could be wrong.
Notice the extremely low score on paranoia, borderline, avoidant, and dependent.
I think all of those are very mater of fact terms. Of course, though I am the paranoid one, the liar, etc. etc. and I have just made this up, and I lie to all the people that know me, and friends that view or e-mail me through myspace, because I am so paranoid, that I have the guts to make my identity public.
No twisted sense of reality there. I can't imagine what it must not be like to not be in-control of your own life, to be able to make a choice because you are so paranoid of popular opinion and chance that you could be wrong.
EDIT
(yes) the illusion of anonymity and that it will somehow hide one's words, or intentions, or thought patterns, and that not knowing a name ,or reality, can somehow hide the blunder of action and history.
(edit) lets start labeling everything we can't define as paranoia. What a frightening place the world would become, to those which depend on brandishing everything with their label. You know one supreme race, one power, No way, the "chat Nazi's" are not malicious, nor is the person whom allows to act in such a manner.
It's not the medium, it's the paranoid.
See, a blatant disrespect for the fact that it was insinuated that I should be assaulted, shot, lied about before I insinuated legal action, yet further ... proving my very point,
His paranoia of me, what he thinks about me, is not true, and the only way he could prove is by being a doctor and giving me some sort of validating test. Because that would "prove" right, because these things are so hard to see?
Look at myspace page, I took an online disorder test, seem to be in far batter mental health than the web average. But I suppose that test isn't good enough.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
QUOTE
Personality Diorder Test, Similarminds.com your avg/web avg
Paranoid |||| 14% 49%
Schizoid |||||| 26% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||| 46% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||| 34% 47%
Borderline || 10% 47%
Histrionic |||||| 30% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||| 38% 41%
Avoidant |||||| 22% 39%
Dependent |||||| 26% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||| 50% 40
Notice the extremely low score on paranoia, borderline, avoidant, and dependent.
I think all of those are very mater of fact terms. Of course, though I am the paranoid one, the liar, etc. etc. and I have just made this up, and I lie to all the people that know me, and friends that view or e-mail me through myspace, because I am so paranoid, that I have the guts to make my identity public.
No twisted sense of reality there. I can't imagine what it must not be like to not be in-control of your own life, to be able to make a choice because you are so paranoid of popular opinion and chance that you could be wrong.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
Personality Diorder Test, Similarminds.com your avg/web avg Paranoid |||| 14% 49% Schizoid |||||| 26% 53% Schizotypal |||||||||||| 46% 53% Antisocial |||||||||| 34% 47% Borderline || 10% 47% Histrionic |||||| 30% 43% Narcissistic |||||||||| 38% 41% Avoidant |||||| 22% 39% Dependent |||||| 26% 37% Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||| 50% 40 |
Notice the extremely low score on paranoia, borderline, avoidant, and dependent.
I think all of those are very mater of fact terms. Of course, though I am the paranoid one, the liar, etc. etc. and I have just made this up, and I lie to all the people that know me, and friends that view or e-mail me through myspace, because I am so paranoid, that I have the guts to make my identity public.
No twisted sense of reality there. I can't imagine what it must not be like to not be in-control of your own life, to be able to make a choice because you are so paranoid of popular opinion and chance that you could be wrong.
EDIT
(yes) the illusion of anonymity and that it will somehow hide one's words, or intentions, or thought patterns, and that not knowing a name ,or reality, can somehow hide the blunder of action and history.
(edit) lets start labeling everything we can't define as paranoia. What a frightening place the world would become, to those which depend on brandishing everything with their label. You know one supreme race, one power, No way, the "chat Nazi's" are not malicious, nor is the person whom allows to act in such a manner.
AlexG - you surprise me! Clinical but effective.
Life is a journey, for some of us we find something, much like what is found at the end of this video. I think the alternative, if far more disturbing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybr8Z6pzVs0
(so emo, but I suppose "death metal" isn't)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybr8Z6pzVs0
(so emo, but I suppose "death metal" isn't)
QUOTE (Confused2+Jul 5 2009, 03:19 PM)
Could it be that Internet doesn't actually create sociopaths - it just let's 'em out of the cage?
I definitely disagree. I would say that ALL people on the internet have to work extra hard to keep conversations civil. There are no non-verbal cues to 'humanize' the people that you are talking to. This makes people quicker to react negatively and quicker to cast comments in a negative light. The thing that makes real life sociopaths scary is that they know how to fake normal human responses. On the internet, real sociopaths would be indiscernible from regular people. I know that I am not a sociopath, but sometimes I can over-react to people's comments, especially when they are offensive to me personally.
I definitely disagree. I would say that ALL people on the internet have to work extra hard to keep conversations civil. There are no non-verbal cues to 'humanize' the people that you are talking to. This makes people quicker to react negatively and quicker to cast comments in a negative light. The thing that makes real life sociopaths scary is that they know how to fake normal human responses. On the internet, real sociopaths would be indiscernible from regular people. I know that I am not a sociopath, but sometimes I can over-react to people's comments, especially when they are offensive to me personally.
QUOTE (Confused2+Jul 5 2009, 04:53 PM)
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...ndpost&p=303258
Sounds like a right-wing alien conspiracy nut to me.
Or maybe just an idiot. Probably not a sociopath.
I am not a psychiatrist.
Sounds like a right-wing alien conspiracy nut to me.
QUOTE
1 earthquake weapon in case we can't get him right away.
Or maybe just an idiot. Probably not a sociopath.
I am not a psychiatrist.
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 5 2009, 05:04 PM)
Sounds like a right-wing alien conspiracy nut to me.
Or maybe just an idiot. Probably not a sociopath.
I am not a psychiatrist.
Or maybe just an idiot. Probably not a sociopath.
I am not a psychiatrist.
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 5 2009, 05:04 PM)
Sounds like a right-wing alien conspiracy nut to me.
Or maybe just an idiot. Probably not a sociopath.
Read the context. Always look for the context when you read part of something larger, such as a single post in a thread.
Especially if it's a link offered by a desperate lil shіt like C2, who has nothing better to do with his life than attempt (poorly, but with some apparent limited success) to insult those who've made him look stupid in the past.
Enjoy your bananas.
(wave)
Or maybe just an idiot. Probably not a sociopath.
Read the context.
Always look for the context when you read part of something larger, such as a single post in a thread.Especially if it's a link offered by a desperate lil shіt like C2, who has nothing better to do with his life than attempt (poorly, but with some apparent limited success) to insult those who've made him look stupid in the past.
QUOTE (meem+)
Look at myspace page, I took an online disorder test, seem to be in far batter mental health than the web average
OH MY GOD, YOU'RE SO STUPID!!!! You know, I've changed my mind about one thing. I don't want you to leave this forum. You're the funniest fuсker on this site!
OH MY GOD, YOU'RE SO STUPID!!!! You know, I've changed my mind about one thing. I don't want you to leave this forum. You're the funniest fuсker on this site!
QUOTE
Eugene V. Debs:
Now my friends, I am opposed to the system of society in which we live today, not because I lack the natural equipment to do for myself but because I am not satisfied to make myself comfortable knowing that there are thousands of my fellow men who suffer for the barest necessities of life. We were taught under the old ethic that man's business on this earth was to look out for himself. That was the ethic of the jungle; the ethic of the wild beast. Take care of yourself, no matter what may become of your fellow man. Thousands of years ago the question was asked; ''Am I my brother's keeper?'' That question has never yet been answered in a way that is satisfactory to civilized society.
Yes, I am my brother's keeper. I am under a moral obligation to him that is inspired, not by any maudlin sentimentality but by the higher duty I owe myself. What would you think me if I were capable of seating myself at a table and gorging myself with food and saw about me the children of my fellow beings starving to death.
1908 speech
Now my friends, I am opposed to the system of society in which we live today, not because I lack the natural equipment to do for myself but because I am not satisfied to make myself comfortable knowing that there are thousands of my fellow men who suffer for the barest necessities of life. We were taught under the old ethic that man's business on this earth was to look out for himself. That was the ethic of the jungle; the ethic of the wild beast. Take care of yourself, no matter what may become of your fellow man. Thousands of years ago the question was asked; ''Am I my brother's keeper?'' That question has never yet been answered in a way that is satisfactory to civilized society.
Yes, I am my brother's keeper. I am under a moral obligation to him that is inspired, not by any maudlin sentimentality but by the higher duty I owe myself. What would you think me if I were capable of seating myself at a table and gorging myself with food and saw about me the children of my fellow beings starving to death.
1908 speech
Enjoy your bananas.
(wave)
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