does a black hole emit gravity and if it does then gravity has no mass because it could not send out gravity forces if gravity has a mass and would be held inside the black hole. Then if gravity has a mass then only the gravity from an object floating by would be pulled in by its own gravity force being sucked into the black hole. (question) does anyone know if a black hole emits gravity?
monsterfarmer,
First I have to ask just how often do you fertilize a monster anyway.
You ask >does a black hole emit gravity and if it does then gravity has no mass
Some how I think you have gotten these two back wards.
Mass has gravity, Gravity doesn't have mass.
So, No,, there is no paradox here,,, the black hole doesn't have so much gravity that not even gravity can escape.
First I have to ask just how often do you fertilize a monster anyway.
You ask >does a black hole emit gravity and if it does then gravity has no mass
Some how I think you have gotten these two back wards.
Mass has gravity, Gravity doesn't have mass.
So, No,, there is no paradox here,,, the black hole doesn't have so much gravity that not even gravity can escape.
QUOTE (paul h+Apr 9 2008, 09:23 PM)
monsterfarmer,
First I have to ask just how often do you fertilize a monster anyway.
You ask >does a black hole emit gravity and if it does then gravity has no mass
Some how I think you have gotten these two back wards.
Mass has gravity, Gravity doesn't have mass.
So, No,, there is no paradox here,,, the black hole doesn't have so much gravity that not even gravity can escape.
then gravity is a source of energy unlike no other. If you take e=mc2 all energy can be converted to mass. but gravity as an energy source does not fit this equation and is a source of energy that cannot be converted to mass. Would this make e=mc2 wrong in this example as gravity being a form of energy?
First I have to ask just how often do you fertilize a monster anyway.
You ask >does a black hole emit gravity and if it does then gravity has no mass
Some how I think you have gotten these two back wards.
Mass has gravity, Gravity doesn't have mass.
So, No,, there is no paradox here,,, the black hole doesn't have so much gravity that not even gravity can escape.
then gravity is a source of energy unlike no other. If you take e=mc2 all energy can be converted to mass. but gravity as an energy source does not fit this equation and is a source of energy that cannot be converted to mass. Would this make e=mc2 wrong in this example as gravity being a form of energy?
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then gravity is a source of energy unlike no other
I'm probably not the one to be replying to this, but I think gravity is a result of an interaction rather than an cause or source of its own. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
QUOTE (paul h+Apr 9 2008, 09:23 PM)
monsterfarmer,
First I have to ask just how often do you fertilize a monster anyway.
You ask >does a black hole emit gravity and if it does then gravity has no mass
Some how I think you have gotten these two back wards.
Mass has gravity, Gravity doesn't have mass.
So, No,, there is no paradox here,,, the black hole doesn't have so much gravity that not even gravity can escape.
I am an organic farmer i don't fertilize monsters they make their own fertilizer
First I have to ask just how often do you fertilize a monster anyway.
You ask >does a black hole emit gravity and if it does then gravity has no mass
Some how I think you have gotten these two back wards.
Mass has gravity, Gravity doesn't have mass.
So, No,, there is no paradox here,,, the black hole doesn't have so much gravity that not even gravity can escape.
I am an organic farmer i don't fertilize monsters they make their own fertilizer
I emailed stephen hawking maybe he can reply
QUOTE (monsterfarmer+Apr 12 2008, 04:36 AM)
I emailed stephen hawking maybe he can reply
I really hope you are joking.
I really hope you are joking.
The first thing you need to do is let go of the myth that a black hole will draw in anything that has mass.
Radio imagery of black holes have revealed 'fountains' where mass is ejected and not drawn in.
If E = mc^2 then m = E/c^2. So particles with low energy will have a very low mass. The lower the mass the harder it is for a black hole to pull it in which means the closer the mass has to get to the black hole to be affected by it. If this mass is given a push it can go against the pull of the black hole slowing as it goes but escaping none the less. It's like throwing a baseball toward the sky. If you throw hard enough the ball can escape the pull of the Earth's gravity.
http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http...ficial%26sa%3DG
http://www.newsonfire.com/2007/12/18/death...aller-neighbor/
http://www.newsonfire.com/2007/12/18/death...aller-neighbor/
A composite image (top) shows a never-before-seen spectacle: a "Death Star" galaxy blasting a nearby neighbor with a powerful jet from a supermassive black hole.
Radio imagery of black holes have revealed 'fountains' where mass is ejected and not drawn in.
If E = mc^2 then m = E/c^2. So particles with low energy will have a very low mass. The lower the mass the harder it is for a black hole to pull it in which means the closer the mass has to get to the black hole to be affected by it. If this mass is given a push it can go against the pull of the black hole slowing as it goes but escaping none the less. It's like throwing a baseball toward the sky. If you throw hard enough the ball can escape the pull of the Earth's gravity.
http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http...ficial%26sa%3DG
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Whenever the black hole swallows galactic gas, ultra-hot radio emitting plasma is ejected along two oppositely directed jets
http://www.newsonfire.com/2007/12/18/death...aller-neighbor/
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| Whenever the black hole swallows galactic gas, ultra-hot radio emitting plasma is ejected along two oppositely directed jets |
http://www.newsonfire.com/2007/12/18/death...aller-neighbor/
A composite image (top) shows a never-before-seen spectacle: a "Death Star" galaxy blasting a nearby neighbor with a powerful jet from a supermassive black hole.
Another cool question :)
So what is gravity then?
some say it is a force that follows 'c'
That it is borne on 'gravitons' and is similar to light.
If so one could expect gravity to behave as light does when caught in a 'black hole'
But it doesn't, gravity is a 'space bender'
And the black hole is the most bending object we can think off.
So to me gravity is more of a field that reacts to you 'instantly' even though it may take some time to 'cast it'.
And light has momentum and obeys gravity, that is, light behaves much the same as particles when meeting gravity.
So light 'contains' gravity.
Gravity in itself though is still the unsolved mystery. We have momentum, rest mass, invariant mass, relative mass, and then we have light. All those are locked to gravity. Even time follows gravity, Time and gravity seems to be very close to each other, almost like the two sides of a coin.
But my idea of space time is a four dimensional (3+time) 'net' and a black hole distorts that net and all thingies obeying gravity will chose the easiest way in that net, so if it's 'downhill' then that's where they will go.
So what is gravity then?
some say it is a force that follows 'c'
That it is borne on 'gravitons' and is similar to light.
If so one could expect gravity to behave as light does when caught in a 'black hole'
But it doesn't, gravity is a 'space bender'
And the black hole is the most bending object we can think off.
So to me gravity is more of a field that reacts to you 'instantly' even though it may take some time to 'cast it'.
And light has momentum and obeys gravity, that is, light behaves much the same as particles when meeting gravity.
So light 'contains' gravity.
Gravity in itself though is still the unsolved mystery. We have momentum, rest mass, invariant mass, relative mass, and then we have light. All those are locked to gravity. Even time follows gravity, Time and gravity seems to be very close to each other, almost like the two sides of a coin.
But my idea of space time is a four dimensional (3+time) 'net' and a black hole distorts that net and all thingies obeying gravity will chose the easiest way in that net, so if it's 'downhill' then that's where they will go.
ty for your replies, Gravity is a mystery that needs to be solved
QUOTE (monsterfarmer+Apr 9 2008, 08:57 PM)
does a black hole emit gravity and if it does then gravity has no mass because it could not send out gravity forces if gravity has a mass and would be held inside the black hole. Then if gravity has a mass then only the gravity from an object floating by would be pulled in by its own gravity force being sucked into the black hole. (question) does anyone know if a black hole emits gravity?
I won't be around for a while so here the nuts and bolts.
The universe is decaying from a big particle which went boom at critical mass because the gravitational wave built up inside it. Space was created because space is the gravitational wave. The matter transformed and developed an electromagnetic field and the EM field is still decaying into the monopole non binding gravitational wave which creates our preception of time and space. It is our fundimental clock, the decay of matter/energy via the gravitational wave continously creating space.
Time and space are wave functions of matter/energy decay and wave interaction aligns mass and it is what you call gravity.
Time. space and wave alignment, wave synchronization are all actions of this process. The reference point is generating its own time and space and anything that enters that reference point, synchronizes with the reference point.
Since the gravitational wave is an energy transfer the black hole actually loses mass but since the gravitational wave is a monopole and non-binding it only interacts with other gravitational waves as an alignment. It is the bottom rung on the ladder of matter, space itself.
The universe is running by this process, potential energy (Matter/energy) bound slowly decaying via the gravitational wave creating space itself. Time and space are actions of this process and wave synchronization runs the imediate and overall show, but not space in the underlying quantum world, only time because the size of the wavelength. The freuqency runs time and that even effects the quantum world, just not synchronization to any appreciable degree.
So yes a black hole decays into, emitts, the monopole gravitational wave and wave synchronization is the concept that you call gravitation. There are no real paradoxes, only limited thinking.
So Einstein was right, God does not play dice, he bakes.....
I won't be around for a while so here the nuts and bolts.
The universe is decaying from a big particle which went boom at critical mass because the gravitational wave built up inside it. Space was created because space is the gravitational wave. The matter transformed and developed an electromagnetic field and the EM field is still decaying into the monopole non binding gravitational wave which creates our preception of time and space. It is our fundimental clock, the decay of matter/energy via the gravitational wave continously creating space.
Time and space are wave functions of matter/energy decay and wave interaction aligns mass and it is what you call gravity.
Time. space and wave alignment, wave synchronization are all actions of this process. The reference point is generating its own time and space and anything that enters that reference point, synchronizes with the reference point.
Since the gravitational wave is an energy transfer the black hole actually loses mass but since the gravitational wave is a monopole and non-binding it only interacts with other gravitational waves as an alignment. It is the bottom rung on the ladder of matter, space itself.
The universe is running by this process, potential energy (Matter/energy) bound slowly decaying via the gravitational wave creating space itself. Time and space are actions of this process and wave synchronization runs the imediate and overall show, but not space in the underlying quantum world, only time because the size of the wavelength. The freuqency runs time and that even effects the quantum world, just not synchronization to any appreciable degree.
So yes a black hole decays into, emitts, the monopole gravitational wave and wave synchronization is the concept that you call gravitation. There are no real paradoxes, only limited thinking.
So Einstein was right, God does not play dice, he bakes.....
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