Not a poster here, but felt like maybe answering something I see as an important principle in its foundations turning flawed.
[QUOTE] It's not who does it that makes it evil. It's what is done. If all Jews did and still do such they would be evil. Do they? Hell no. So, no. They are not evil. It's like calling Germans evil for what Hitler did. Not all Germans did it and none still do. You cannot be responsible for what others do.[/QUOTE]
Too many factors involved in these scenarios and complex lexicology in processes. To keep it very simple...
On the whole, spot on! No doubt everyone has their own value to each act/deed/matter/characteristic etc...thats what causes differences in individuals/peoples ways/attitudes/principles/behaviours/cultures etc. In consequence ones "right" can be anothers most hated/feared "wrong" and vice versa...as has been times aplenty. This by time and in the way society is now dictated, is becoming levelled out.
But what is done is judged nevertheless by a certain body/law/criterion. If this differs in principle as to its perspective/understandings then so does the meaning/interpretation/outcome and perception. But WHO judges others?
Today, its judged by "co-human" law-makers, who have no doubt set the standards accepted/tolerated & not accepted by society based on Western culture norms and philosophies, as well as through experience and knowledge as it is claimed, which have become the ultimate ideologies to being DECENT, CIVIL, RESPECTABLE and SUCCESSFUL in life.
But in many a civilisations of the past and present, societies, cultures, sects...its still somone other who is followed/idolised/worshipped. To name one is the Jews & another being the so called "9/11 bombers" religion Islam.
[QUOTE]Hitler did not think he was evil.
The Jews trying to wipe out the Muslims did not think they were evil.
Hell, even the BTK didn't think they were evil.
You might think they were, but that's another point of view, you have one just like everyone else does, INCLUDING THEM. People decide what is commonly acceptable to themselves, and whatever doesn't fit into that mold gets labeled as evil.[QUOTE/]
These peope were NOT trying so ardently just to be evil...thats where their determination and patience came from, strong belief which is deriven by your sense of justification and reward of being right! They were ultimately doing what is perfectly RIGHT in their ideologies just like any decent leader today will do, or any teacher to his/her students.
[QUOTE]I hope you guys are getting the point of this. Hell, if we were back in the BC times and we acted like we do now, we would be seen as demons, what with all the drugs and pre-marital sex, but do we see these people as "evil" NO
NO NO NO NO...We might think they are a little misguided but not evil, but again that's our POINT OF VIEW.[/QUOTE]
EXACTLY true...the point is very elaborate and clear here. Its unequivocal.
[QUOTE]All religions have the "golden rule" in one form or another.
This is to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you".[/QUOTE]
That is an error. It does not exist but in certain interpretations only, of most religions. For example in Islam...its only to do good to others as you would like it to be done to yourself not for the reason a person should want others to respect him/her or please them, but to please God ultimately. But when any law is broken or "bad" is done it is to "STOP the train in its tracks". In essence to halt such a thing in the prescribed manner, and if not, then cautiously whatever it may take to...as US did with Afghanistan and Iraq with its own instincts following its beliefs.
[QUOTE]Human society has the idea of an "eye for an eye"... some smart animals do have a similar code.[/QUOTE]
Precisely, though in humans that has changed much, with sentences/punishments which are seen as "eye for an eye", but not literal as the archaic interpretations.
[QUOTE]My view is that we should not kill unnecessarily.[/QUOTE]
No mass religion/age/society instructed its followers/citizens (i.e. like the foreign policies of the US) to kill others unjustly according to their subjective view or most definitely, without a reason seeming justified to themselves.
Thus the loss is justified and not perceived/felt by them. Its all a part of conditioning.
Good Elf, your view in simple, is generated from the scientific approach and methodology to life and its surroundings. You surely know, most human inhabitants of the Earth, for many given reasons, do not support/hold this approach/belief/understanding.
Each part always believes itself or acts in itself as being in the right...thats why all petty feuds to major global wars occur. Each judges itself right!
EDIT: However, not all people/actions have decent/just motives from the heart i.e. Jesus crucifixion! Perpertrators and evil characteristiscs/ intentions DO exist and always have.