http://www.physorg.com/news78324010.html
A criticism: No relative time periods were stated in this article. "Early Aptian" indicates a 1 million year period.
Within the past 1m years, we too, have had distinct climatic changes.
However, the current concern about climate change is in relation to periods of 50-100 years, not thousands or tens of thousands. I have a hard time seeing how we will ever get that "granular" in looking at the distant past.
In the Sahara desert there are paintings depicting extinct animals living in marshes.
Actually, how do you like my collection of the most controversial dinosaurs carved, painted, hewn and described by man in the historical times:
w.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/Dinoglyfs.htm
tikkun olam,
ojala.pauli@gmail.com
Helsinki, Finland
Actually, how do you like my collection of the most controversial dinosaurs carved, painted, hewn and described by man in the historical times:
w.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/Dinoglyfs.htm
tikkun olam,
ojala.pauli@gmail.com
Helsinki, Finland
QUOTE (bobwinners+Sep 26 2006, 05:42 PM)
http://www.physorg.com/news78324010.html
A criticism: No relative time periods were stated in this article. "Early Aptian" indicates a 1 million year period.
Within the past 1m years, we too, have had distinct climatic changes.
However, the current concern about climate change is in relation to periods of 50-100 years, not thousands or tens of thousands. I have a hard time seeing how we will ever get that "granular" in looking at the distant past.
I'll just repeat something I said last year:
"Man created Dinosaurs", they are abominations and are not 'congruent' with just about anything outside of the chemical compositions of that time.
Just like todays 'insane' Mixing of Genomes between Species('Intentional/Open Source Biology'), D.N.A. splicing(and also the 'soon' creation of Aritifical Life Forms), we will witness 'new Monstrosities' evolve in due time(like 100 years from now).
I would conjecture that considering what archaeology has dug up(like the scary stuff that shows almost definitively that man was playing his same silly science games millions of years ago
), that the 'time-lines' of atmospheric conditions, are possibly good indicators that the 'Techno-Revolution' of yesteryear( 
), paralleled today(exactly), and brought about both their demise, but also left the 'Seed' for the eventual cause of those Creatures.
Cosmic D.N.A., and Cosmic Evolution, just amazing how we can't seem to escape repeating the same thing over and over again.
A criticism: No relative time periods were stated in this article. "Early Aptian" indicates a 1 million year period.
Within the past 1m years, we too, have had distinct climatic changes.
However, the current concern about climate change is in relation to periods of 50-100 years, not thousands or tens of thousands. I have a hard time seeing how we will ever get that "granular" in looking at the distant past.
I'll just repeat something I said last year:
"Man created Dinosaurs", they are abominations and are not 'congruent' with just about anything outside of the chemical compositions of that time.
Just like todays 'insane' Mixing of Genomes between Species('Intentional/Open Source Biology'), D.N.A. splicing(and also the 'soon' creation of Aritifical Life Forms), we will witness 'new Monstrosities' evolve in due time(like 100 years from now).
I would conjecture that considering what archaeology has dug up(like the scary stuff that shows almost definitively that man was playing his same silly science games millions of years ago
), that the 'time-lines' of atmospheric conditions, are possibly good indicators that the 'Techno-Revolution' of yesteryear( ), paralleled today(exactly), and brought about both their demise, but also left the 'Seed' for the eventual cause of those Creatures.Cosmic D.N.A., and Cosmic Evolution, just amazing how we can't seem to escape repeating the same thing over and over again.
They still letting you use the internet at the assylum Imagination?
but saying "I'll just repeat something I said last year" is one of the few times you have ever posted something with even a grain of truth. All you ever do is repeat your insane inane drivel. But I'll repeat something too. Show your post to your psychiatrist.
but saying "I'll just repeat something I said last year" is one of the few times you have ever posted something with even a grain of truth. All you ever do is repeat your insane inane drivel. But I'll repeat something too. Show your post to your psychiatrist.
QUOTE (N O M+Sep 29 2007, 07:40 PM)
They still letting you use the internet at the assylum Imagination?
but saying "I'll just repeat something I said last year" is one of the few times you have ever posted something with even a grain of truth. All you ever do is repeat your insane inane drivel. But I'll repeat something too. Show your post to your psychiatrist.
Can you prove me wrong on that(scientifically)?
I do not know the science of trying to trace things back so far, or whether such an endeavor is even possible.
You must admit there is a very long pre-history to the era of the Dinosaur though, so although my comment is outrageous, it doesn't necessarily negate it being true.
*I've this recent thought about 'Electro-Magnetic Cosmic D.N.A. and 'Universal Memory'(kind of like and 'Iridiological Record of Light', but applied to the history of the Universe), so maybe there is some way of 'Insighting the Past' by other means other than Fossil Records?).
*Maybe this 'Einstein-Rosen' Bridge hypothesis can circumvent the usual method of tracing things back in time, and we can exercise a kind of 'Archaeology of Absolute Time'?( )
And you know the Earth has a 'very long history', and what I said is quite possible.
For someone like yourself, it must be an entertaining thought to consider such a 'Pre-History' of mankind(amongst other things
).
I also think 'you'(like so many others here), will sacrifice all ethics and morals for the '$$$$$$$', not caring the consequences over the long term.
Of course, there's the other side, and its the 'kid in the sand box' syndrome, and you let your 'play' get out of control and take over both common sense, and specific understanding of 'consequence' to what you know can happen when you 'dice up the Codes' of creation.
What do you think the consequences of Monsanto Terminator Seed are going to be over the long haul? Another example of 'Greed' over-riding matters of how 'manipulation of plants', etc., influence our own evolution and physiological system integrity.
*I just bought a book 'Botany of Desire', quite interesting for many reasons.
but saying "I'll just repeat something I said last year" is one of the few times you have ever posted something with even a grain of truth. All you ever do is repeat your insane inane drivel. But I'll repeat something too. Show your post to your psychiatrist.
Can you prove me wrong on that(scientifically)?
I do not know the science of trying to trace things back so far, or whether such an endeavor is even possible.
You must admit there is a very long pre-history to the era of the Dinosaur though, so although my comment is outrageous, it doesn't necessarily negate it being true.
*I've this recent thought about 'Electro-Magnetic Cosmic D.N.A. and 'Universal Memory'(kind of like and 'Iridiological Record of Light', but applied to the history of the Universe), so maybe there is some way of 'Insighting the Past' by other means other than Fossil Records?).
*Maybe this 'Einstein-Rosen' Bridge hypothesis can circumvent the usual method of tracing things back in time, and we can exercise a kind of 'Archaeology of Absolute Time'?(
)And you know the Earth has a 'very long history', and what I said is quite possible.
For someone like yourself, it must be an entertaining thought to consider such a 'Pre-History' of mankind(amongst other things
).I also think 'you'(like so many others here), will sacrifice all ethics and morals for the '$$$$$$$', not caring the consequences over the long term.
Of course, there's the other side, and its the 'kid in the sand box' syndrome, and you let your 'play' get out of control and take over both common sense, and specific understanding of 'consequence' to what you know can happen when you 'dice up the Codes' of creation.
What do you think the consequences of Monsanto Terminator Seed are going to be over the long haul? Another example of 'Greed' over-riding matters of how 'manipulation of plants', etc., influence our own evolution and physiological system integrity.
*I just bought a book 'Botany of Desire', quite interesting for many reasons.
Sometimes I wonder about you people...
I don't think that the geologic ages are so well founded. They suffer from severe tautology (circumstantional reasoning):
http://www.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/Mryr.htm
Pauli Ojala
Biochemist from Finland
http://www.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/Mryr.htm
Pauli Ojala
Biochemist from Finland
I don't really know exactly what we are discussing with the title 'Dinosaurs Climate Shifted Too' but i am sure we can all agree that during the whole time period that "Dinosaurs" were alive, there were climate changes... just like now, still, we in "Human" time period we experience continuous climate changes... just as i believe there must probably would have been climate changes in the times of in-between of stated times, there was just no one there to experience them.. THIS i believe we all already know..
so, What are we discussing exactly?
I believe, that we our Earth (or maybe the sun) may be going through the same type of cycle that it was going through then to cause the Death of the Dinosaurs... if that may be what we are discussing; then I say that that my perception of acquired information has led me to believe that the changing / reversing of Sun's polarity of the electronic conducting gas inside it, (changing the Sun from a calm state to a cloudy state), and effecting Earth's ... well, everything live and livings normal pattern and control, also causing 'Worldly Climate Changes' causing / leading to the collapse of the current age of life forms. Please Note that I am using the term 'age' loosely.
~any other facts, theories, ideas or comments are welcome~
I also have theories on whey the dinosaurs were different than us, but still a living form, different from all modern animals,... and that it simply because energy can 'transform' to all / any forms... proven and I believe that, the energy in the dinosaurs would be what 'adapt' to its surrounding environment, (as so it could consume it as life formsdo), creating the 'nucleus' part, making the DNA telling the life form what to be, as to best live where it is. (Maybe from Experience but that is just an idea:rolleyes: ) ..: and obviously something happened as to where the 'Dinosuarus'
so, What are we discussing exactly?
I believe, that we our Earth (or maybe the sun) may be going through the same type of cycle that it was going through then to cause the Death of the Dinosaurs... if that may be what we are discussing; then I say that that my perception of acquired information has led me to believe that the changing / reversing of Sun's polarity of the electronic conducting gas inside it, (changing the Sun from a calm state to a cloudy state), and effecting Earth's ... well, everything live and livings normal pattern and control, also causing 'Worldly Climate Changes' causing / leading to the collapse of the current age of life forms. Please Note that I am using the term 'age' loosely.
~any other facts, theories, ideas or comments are welcome~
I also have theories on whey the dinosaurs were different than us, but still a living form, different from all modern animals,... and that it simply because energy can 'transform' to all / any forms... proven and I believe that, the energy in the dinosaurs would be what 'adapt' to its surrounding environment, (as so it could consume it as life formsdo), creating the 'nucleus' part, making the DNA telling the life form what to be, as to best live where it is. (Maybe from Experience but that is just an idea:rolleyes: ) ..: and obviously something happened as to where the 'Dinosuarus'
* I also have theories on Gravity and 'Somethingness' and something i call The Magnet & Bubble theories that go along with my "live vs. living" theory. ... I am basing my theories on more, laws of life, and they are about 'life' & energy and everything in our outside world.
^ & The Connections between Math, Science, Language and Health.. to each other, with life, and how our brain works.
* what i said above was not based on what it took to keep the dinosaurs alive,,.. but again, the topic isn't that particular.
* Climate Changes are a very deep subject.
^ & The Connections between Math, Science, Language and Health.. to each other, with life, and how our brain works.
* what i said above was not based on what it took to keep the dinosaurs alive,,.. but again, the topic isn't that particular.
* Climate Changes are a very deep subject.
I don't really know exactly what we are discussing with the title 'Dinosaurs Climate Shifted Too' but i am sure we can all agree that during the whole time period that "Dinosaurs" were alive, there were climate changes... just like now, still, we in "Human" time period we experience continuous climate changes... just as i believe there must probably would have been climate changes in the times of in-between of stated times, there was just no one there to experience them.. THIS i believe we all already know..
so, What are we discussing exactly?
I believe, that we our Earth (or maybe the sun) may be going through the same type of cycle that it was going through then to cause the Death of the Dinosaurs... if that may be what we are discussing; then I say that that my perception of acquired information has led me to believe that the changing / reversing of Sun's polarity of the electronic conducting gas inside it, (changing the Sun from a calm state to a cloudy state), and effecting Earth's ... well, everything live and livings normal pattern and control, also causing '[i]Worldly[%2
so, What are we discussing exactly?
I believe, that we our Earth (or maybe the sun) may be going through the same type of cycle that it was going through then to cause the Death of the Dinosaurs... if that may be what we are discussing; then I say that that my perception of acquired information has led me to believe that the changing / reversing of Sun's polarity of the electronic conducting gas inside it, (changing the Sun from a calm state to a cloudy state), and effecting Earth's ... well, everything live and livings normal pattern and control, also causing '[i]Worldly[%2
I don't really know exactly what we are discussing with the title 'Dinosaurs Climate Shifted Too' but i am sure we can all agree that during the whole time period that "Dinosaurs" were alive, there were climate changes... just like now, still, we in "Human" time period we experience continuous climate changes... just as i believe there must probably would have been climate changes in the times of in-between of stated times, there was just no one there to experience them.. THIS i believe we all already know..
so, What are we discussing exactly?
I believe, that we our Earth (or maybe the sun) may be going through the same type of cycle that it was going through then to cause the Death of the Dinosaurs... if that may be what we are discussing; then I say that that my perception of acquired information has led me to believe that the changing / reversing of Sun's polarity of the electronic conducting gas inside it, (changing the Sun from a calm state to a cloudy state), and effecting Earth's ... well, everything live and livings normal pattern and control, also causing 'Worldly Climate Changes', and earthquakes and flooding on Earth causing / leading to the collapse of the current ages' fragile life forms. Please Note that I am using the term 'age' loosely.
~any other facts, theories, ideas or comments are welcome~
I also have theories on whey the dinosaurs were different than us, but still a living form, different from all modern animals,... and that it simply because energy can 'transform' to all / any forms... proven and I believe that, the energy in the dinosaurs would, as in creation, be what is 'adapting' to its surrounding environment, (as so it could consume / store energy as life forms do), then creating the 'nucleus' part, making the DNA telling the life form what to be, as to best live where it is. (Maybe from Experience but that is just an idea:rolleyes: ) ..: and obviously something happened as to where the 'Dinosuarus' were ''Extinct'' for a great amount of time, and at some point (...idk when,) the 'animals' appeared. Note: living cells can only come from previous existing cells. I believe that this energy, after .."killed' would settle and restore its self then gather together to restart the cycle, adapt to its new enviorment; and if my "exsperiance" idea from above has anything to it... then the energy would adapt to the new surroundings based off of its previosly discovered design. This, on some plane, has been as a commen reference, been given the term 'evolution.' But I, personally, don't believe that any living thing could go through a design transformation to another form while still alive, I also believe it would take more time than could be givin.
~`So that was my idea, I woud welcome any ideas or feedback, facts, opinions or evidence either way, or any information on energies or about Dinosaurs, or whatever this topic was about*
(?)
{I would appreciate any information on, how much of much all life was destroyed during the time of the 'Dinosaurs "Deaths"'.... Were all plants and other forms destroyed too? Do we know if all the Living World at that time went extinct, was it area by area, or..?? It would be helpful to further conclusions. 
}
so, What are we discussing exactly?
I believe, that we our Earth (or maybe the sun) may be going through the same type of cycle that it was going through then to cause the Death of the Dinosaurs... if that may be what we are discussing; then I say that that my perception of acquired information has led me to believe that the changing / reversing of Sun's polarity of the electronic conducting gas inside it, (changing the Sun from a calm state to a cloudy state), and effecting Earth's ... well, everything live and livings normal pattern and control, also causing 'Worldly Climate Changes', and earthquakes and flooding on Earth causing / leading to the collapse of the current ages' fragile life forms. Please Note that I am using the term 'age' loosely.
~any other facts, theories, ideas or comments are welcome~
I also have theories on whey the dinosaurs were different than us, but still a living form, different from all modern animals,... and that it simply because energy can 'transform' to all / any forms... proven and I believe that, the energy in the dinosaurs would, as in creation, be what is 'adapting' to its surrounding environment, (as so it could consume / store energy as life forms do), then creating the 'nucleus' part, making the DNA telling the life form what to be, as to best live where it is. (Maybe from Experience but that is just an idea:rolleyes: ) ..: and obviously something happened as to where the 'Dinosuarus' were ''Extinct'' for a great amount of time, and at some point (...idk when,) the 'animals' appeared. Note: living cells can only come from previous existing cells. I believe that this energy, after .."killed' would settle and restore its self then gather together to restart the cycle, adapt to its new enviorment; and if my "exsperiance" idea from above has anything to it... then the energy would adapt to the new surroundings based off of its previosly discovered design. This, on some plane, has been as a commen reference, been given the term 'evolution.' But I, personally, don't believe that any living thing could go through a design transformation to another form while still alive, I also believe it would take more time than could be givin.
~`So that was my idea, I woud welcome any ideas or feedback, facts, opinions or evidence either way, or any information on energies or about Dinosaurs, or whatever this topic was about*
(?)
{I would appreciate any information on, how much of much all life was destroyed during the time of the 'Dinosaurs "Deaths"'.... Were all plants and other forms destroyed too? Do we know if all the Living World at that time went extinct, was it area by area, or..?? It would be helpful to further conclusions. }
mean, let's face it. We have lost the sense of relativity regarding the time scales of adaptation and migration of populations. Sic:
- Two dozens of canines to Australia in 1859. Now there are 300 millions of them.
- 3 goats to Galapago islands 100 years ago. After 50 years, the staff of the Darwin station had shot 50 000 of them
- Bullfrogs in France
- Two dozen "washer bears" escaped from their cages during the WWII. Now they are all over the continental Europe
- 150 million migration pigeons in the Northe4rn America 150 years ago. Now all are extinct. In contrast to the Sturnus vulgaris that invaded the continent in 100 years: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kottarainen
These are extremely small time spans. Unfortunately, my essay pubished in a jonal of the Finnish biology students on it has only the references in English:
http://www.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/Lokeronvaltaajat.htm
Here you can see my references (180 of them) behind the argument that man saw the dinosaurs and that the last of them still lived 1000 years ago. Of course, both fishes and reptilians grow all their life so that the biggest dinos were also the oldest and before the extinction the individuals were pretty small:
http://www.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/Dinosauruslegendat.htm
- Two dozens of canines to Australia in 1859. Now there are 300 millions of them.
- 3 goats to Galapago islands 100 years ago. After 50 years, the staff of the Darwin station had shot 50 000 of them
- Bullfrogs in France
- Two dozen "washer bears" escaped from their cages during the WWII. Now they are all over the continental Europe
- 150 million migration pigeons in the Northe4rn America 150 years ago. Now all are extinct. In contrast to the Sturnus vulgaris that invaded the continent in 100 years: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kottarainen
These are extremely small time spans. Unfortunately, my essay pubished in a jonal of the Finnish biology students on it has only the references in English:
http://www.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/Lokeronvaltaajat.htm
Here you can see my references (180 of them) behind the argument that man saw the dinosaurs and that the last of them still lived 1000 years ago. Of course, both fishes and reptilians grow all their life so that the biggest dinos were also the oldest and before the extinction the individuals were pretty small:
http://www.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/Dinosauruslegendat.htm
The Earth is Always Changing. We cannot forget that. It may have a pattern, but I refuse to accept that Earth is "special" & the only planet in the whole universe with a different pattern all to its own.
Its only obvious that at some random point in time ((doesn't matter how long)) the world WILL look like any other planet out there.
Life is too fragile to be sustained forever.
Climate Changes and continues changes causing it, are happening everyday, what we are seeing and "labeling" as Global Warming, Climate Changes, end of the world etc... are just ... stupid, they may be true. But do not label them with such Words as if they are doing it on their own.
THE DINOSAURS CLIMATE SHIFTED TOO...
uh, no duh.
**^We obviously don't have the same climate they had....^**
You need to rephrase the question, and stop talking about side-effects.
The world is doing SOMETHING, it has been all along. COMPACTING, CHANGING,
and so on....
STUDY IT IN GENERAL, you will find a lot more connections in life than you think,...
The world doesn't listen to what your saying.
Listen to what it's doing.
The animals will know if somethings happening long before our ignorant minds do.
Its only obvious that at some random point in time ((doesn't matter how long)) the world WILL look like any other planet out there.
Life is too fragile to be sustained forever.
Climate Changes and continues changes causing it, are happening everyday, what we are seeing and "labeling" as Global Warming, Climate Changes, end of the world etc... are just ... stupid, they may be true. But do not label them with such Words as if they are doing it on their own.
THE DINOSAURS CLIMATE SHIFTED TOO...
uh, no duh.
**^We obviously don't have the same climate they had....^**
You need to rephrase the question, and stop talking about side-effects.
The world is doing SOMETHING, it has been all along. COMPACTING, CHANGING,
and so on....
STUDY IT IN GENERAL, you will find a lot more connections in life than you think,...
The world doesn't listen to what your saying.
Listen to what it's doing.
The animals will know if somethings happening long before our ignorant minds do.
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