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Zarkov
What is SANITY

You must agree that it is not intoxication, acute or chronic.

So what is your definition of SANITY ?
Gorgeous
QUOTE (Zarkov+Jul 15 2008, 03:04 PM)
What is SANITY

You must agree that it is not intoxication, acute or chronic.

So what is your definition of SANITY ?

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Voting conservative, going to church regularly and always paying taxes promptly!! Anything else is just pure madness...ANARCHY even! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif



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MjolnirPants
QUOTE (Zarkov+Jul 16 2008, 02:04 AM)
What is SANITY

Everythin that Zarkov ain't...
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Seriously...
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I'm not jokin, or tryin to be offensive, I really mean it...
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Fer real...
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Yer crazy. Loopy. Cuckoo. Insane. Mentally unstable. Delusional.
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Yeesh...
xtrmn8r
inSanity Test

http://www.penddraig.co.uk/pen/tests/sanity.htm
StevenA
QUOTE (Gorgeous+Jul 16 2008, 02:37 AM)
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Voting conservative, going to church regularly and always paying taxes promptly!! Anything else is just pure madness...ANARCHY even! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif



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If only it was that easy to achieve anarchy. I don't believe you'd find some of our current crop of rulers willing to give up the reigns so easily.

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Regarding sanity, it's likely quite often seen as a state someone else is in when they agree with you biggrin.gif (I'm only half joking here)
Zarkov
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Everythin that Zarkov ain't...


Thank DOG.....for that

My definition of sanity... and I am a majority of ONE here, is
to be free of intoxicants... to be the way you would be in an unpolluted world...

so can you claim to free of intoxication

acute...maybe

chronic ...definitely not....

so what is your "insane" definition ??

LOL
Gorgeous
QUOTE (StevenA+Jul 15 2008, 05:42 PM)

If only it was that easy to achieve anarchy.  I don't believe you'd find some of our current crop of rulers willing to give up the reigns so easily.

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Regarding sanity, it's likely quite often seen as a state someone else is in when they agree with you biggrin.gif  (I'm only half joking here)

Hey, you know about the 'sound of one hand clapping'? ~ That's your foot, that is! smile.gif



In Cosmological terms, we could say that an 'insanity' is anything that does not actually exist, in Reality, or an impossible event. Therefore, when Humans apply the ideas of things that do not exist to their everyday ideologies of existence, an 'insanity' ensues, on an existential scale.



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Zarkov
no takers...

Is "normal" a pseudonym for sanity ?

Are sane people "sustainable"

whereas insane people "crash and burn" ???


Sorry no one has convinced me that they are sane...

If no one knows what sanity is
then where are y'all going.... to HELL. biggrin.gif

How come my negs are not rising... damn mad.gif
Gorgeous
Poor old zarky. I think it's just you and me left now, sweetie. biggrin.gif


Fancy a spot of lunch? You can be Mr. Badger...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B5H6AdKUthg&NR=1



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xtrmn8r
Zarkov

On the off chance that you are at least semi-serious here, I will post a semi-serious answer.
Sanity is a condition of societal norms, like writing a complete and coherent sentence. What is sane to one group may not be sane to another. Being sane is dependant on the paradigms which are considered acceptable to that group. One must be able to function within certain parameters in order be accepted or risk being ostracized and considered insane...much like you tongue.gif
Zarkov
wow, the local lunatic asylum would love you Xtreme

so in your definition there is no way of knowing what sanity is
except "acceptable to the community" = normal......... mmmmh, talk to Mugabe
or Idi Armen... or .... you chose, your next door neighbour....

LOL

totally crazy!!!!!!! just as I have claimed
barakn
QUOTE (Zarkov+Jul 16 2008, 08:01 PM)
so in your definition there is no way of knowing what sanity is
except "acceptable to the community" = normal......... mmmmh, talk to Mugabe
or Idi Armen.

I wasn't aware that single individuals counted as communities. Oh, wait, they don't. So much for sounding rational, Flexi.
xtrmn8r
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so in your definition there is no way of knowing what sanity is
except "acceptable to the community" = normal......... mmmmh, talk to Mugabe
or Idi Armen... or .... you chose, your next door neighbour....


I assume you mean Idi Amin? In any case, yes, the definition is fluid and depends upon who is being described and by whom. Western peoples look upon third world cultures as so foriegn as to be considered insanity. Most of the Arab countries certainly the radical factions of Islam are quite insane in the eyes of the west. They probable think much the same of us, I imagine.
Delia
So we've asserted that sanity is just an adherence to cultural paradigms, seems about right to me.

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Zarkov
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the definition is fluid


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the definition is fluid


sanity is just an adherence to cultural paradigms


well, what a load of rot.

Sanity is an ABSOLUTE condition, madness is the absence of sanity..

to think sanity is cultural is total madness

just as I suspected.

If you lived in an insane society, much like Nero's Rome.... sanity is to do what the romans do

LOL


The theme of this thread is summed up by Aristotle, Metaphysics 340BC

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Suppose, then, that all men were sick or deranged, save one or two of them who were healthy and of right mind. It would then be the latter two who would be thought to be sick and deranged and the former not!


Seems the ancients knew a thing or two... and some of them were sane
unlike this modern generation of earthlings.

magpies
Sanity is the insane. Insane is the sanity. At least thats my definition for now. Untill the world changes and people with outlandish ideas are not punished for them will the inverse be true again. Who ever got it into there mind that punishing is a good motivation should be punished lol JK they need a hugz.
gmilam
Don't know what sanity is for sure. But if you're certain that you're sane, then you're probably not.
Zarkov
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if you're certain that you're sane, then you're probably not.


good call

xtrmn8r
Zarkov,

Don't you pay attention to what you post?

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Suppose, then, that all men were sick or deranged, save one or two of them who were healthy and of right mind. It would then be the latter two who would be thought to be sick and deranged and the former not!


This vindicates my point, sanity is in that which is considered the norm for those who live within the paradigms of the majority. Sheesh!
Zarkov
Just for you, Mr illiterate

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who were healthy and of right mind  (therefore defined as sane)


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who were healthy and of right mind  (therefore defined as sane)


who would be thought  (deluded not sane sick and demented)


key concepts highlighted

these DEFINED sane individuals would be perceived by the sick and demented, to be "not like them" so since they (the intoxicated sick individuals) were sane (definitely thought deluded) then those not like them (the sane healthy and of RIGHT mind) would be THOUGHT to be insane, by the deluded sick and demented (definitely insane).

I understand the logic goes way way over your tiny head,

Funny how the Ancients knew much more than the highly educated of today
sophisticated is the word..... sophists... deceivers, arguing from false logic... suits you extreme
xtrmn8r
Fine..., I am sick, deluded and insane for believing you were interested in carrying on a reasonable conversation. I thought, maybe, you were on to something here and a rational discussion could be had...guess not...my bad.., Goodbye. unsure.gif
Trippy
Sanity = not Zarkov,

Sanity = not posting in this thread.




























































Oops.
tikay
QUOTE (xtrmn8r+Jul 15 2008, 07:15 PM)
inSanity Test

http://www.penddraig.co.uk/pen/tests/sanity.htm

My insanity test score...19.886363636363636

Um...did anyone else bother? biggrin.gif
xtrmn8r
Mine was around 10% insane dry.gif
tikay
QUOTE (Delia+Jul 16 2008, 08:06 PM)
So we've asserted that sanity is just an adherence to cultural paradigms, seems about right to me.

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Seems to me we must include the ability to adapt to paradigms in which we are placed.
If a sane person of one culture, finds themself immersed in a completely different culture...is adaptability to the new more's not another form of sanity?

Oh...and what of let's say, children who are born into abuse. How sane does one expect them to be, after all? Is somewhat sane 'considering the circumstance' acceptable to the culture?

Sanity... As in Mirrium Webster Dictionary sane or sanity cultural expectation(s) sane?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sanity

There are many ways to look at it. What about "Beautiful Mind" (the movie) sane...where one fluxuates from sanity (even to the point of genius) to insanity, and back again...like most people who 'go insane'.

Sometimes a state of mind is hard to catagorize isn't it?

A heatthy state of mind for one is sometimes very unhealthy to the next person.


tikay
QUOTE (Zarkov+Jul 16 2008, 09:23 PM)



well, what a load of rot.

Sanity is an ABSOLUTE condition, madness is the absence of sanity..

to think sanity is cultural is total madness

just as I suspected.

If you lived in an insane society, much like Nero's Rome.... sanity is to do what the romans do

LOL


The theme of this thread is summed up by Aristotle, Metaphysics 340BC



Seems the ancients knew a thing or two... and some of them were sane
unlike this modern generation of earthlings.


Seems you have stuck your foot in your mouth ~ maybe you'll keep it there for awhile. laugh.gif
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tikay
Poor C2...it appears that by that (ridiculous) test...you may consider yourself more insane than someone who admits to bouts of insanity. Well luckily it has no bearing on the actual truth of the matter. Just a fun? time-waster for sure! wink.gif
magpies
I cheated on the test and scored a perfect 100%!
Zarkov
Nice to catalogue the insane

OK, next

well if you can not define sanity

then what traits would you consider depicts sanity ?

? rationality ?
sustainability ?
?independence ?

please add to this list
Zarkov
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Perhaps we are all insane, so perhaps the real question is how do you become sane? And why not aspire to reach sanity?


To become SANE, you need to set your biochemistry back to the way it would be if you were not living in a polluted world

This is only possible on you grossly polluted planet by biochemically removing the pollutants from your bodies and minds by targeted treatment.

Once this is accomplished one needs to be reprogrammed by residing with SANE people.

Quite simple really......

Failing that the whole earthling civilisation needs to place in hospital care.

Obviously this ain't gonna happen.... so press the X button earthlings, to extinction.

Game over
midwestern
Zark is wondering about himself. This is a start to go. biggrin.gif tongue.gif
Zarkov
If you think your body is free of pollution then think again

this article is only the tip of the effluent heap

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The pollutants assessed – sulfur, nitrogen, mercury, and ground-level ozone – largely originate from smokestacks, tailpipes, and agricultural operations. While initially airborne, these pollutants eventually return to the landscape, where they contaminate the soil and water.

Airborne emissions can travel long distances before making their way back to the ground. Because the eastern United States is downwind from large industrial and urban pollution sources, it receives the highest levels of deposited air pollution in North America. This is bad news for vulnerable wildlife, forest productivity, soil health, water resources, and ultimately, economies.

[funny THEY never bring this information home to THEMSELVES and YOU]

Mercury contamination results in fish that are unsafe to eat. Acidification kills fish and strips nutrients from soils. Excess nitrogen pollutes estuaries, to the detriment of coastal fisheries. And ground-level ozone reduces plant growth, a threat to forestry and agriculture."



now what about the arsenic, cadmium, selenium.....on and one it goes

more information at
http://www.omegafour.com/forum2/viewtopic....30&t=92&start=0

Some earthlings are starting to wake up but its almost evening.
Zarkov
Anyone here claim to be sane ?
Sinister Utopia
QUOTE (Zarkov+Jul 25 2008, 10:21 AM)
Anyone here claim to be sane ?

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sanity

Soundness of mind, emotions, and behaviour; of a sound degree of mental health.

Origin: L. Sanitas, health

(05 Mar 2000) 





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sanity

Soundness of mind, emotions, and behaviour; of a sound degree of mental health.

Origin: L. Sanitas, health

(05 Mar 2000) 





insanity

1. The state of being insane; unsoundness or derangement of mind; madness; lunacy. "All power of fancy overreason is a degree of insanity." (Johnson) "Without grace The heart's insanity admits no cure." (Cowper)

2. Such a mental condition, as, either from the existence of delusions, or from incapacity to distinguish between right and wrong, with regard to any matter under action, does away with individual responsibility.

Synonym: Insanity, Lunacy, Madness, Derangement, Aliention, Aberration, Mania, Delirium, Frenzy, Monomania, Dementia.

Insanity is the generic term for all such diseases; lunacy has now an equal extent of meaning, though once used to denote periodical insanity; madness has the same extent, though originally referring to the rage created by the disease; derangement, alienation, are popular terms for insanity; delirium, mania, and frenzy denote excited states of the disease; dementia denotes the loss of mental power by this means; monomania is insanity upon a single subject.

Origin: L. Insanitas unsoundness; cf. Insania insanity, F. Insanite.

Source: Websters Dictionary

(01 Mar 1998)


Zarkov
thanks Sister

unfortunately all those definitions are relative
and if the state of sanity is not really defined than all other states are suspect.

Sanity is RIGHT MIND, which for earthlings is a state of mental capacity that is free of the influence of intoxication from systemic poisons (chronic or acute)

For earthlings this state was lost many thousands of years ago

What is classed as sanity today is a grossly insane state... and this is easy to prove.

so earthlings who will throw the next stone.... ?
Jeremy Fisher
QUOTE (Zarkov+Jul 25 2008, 10:41 PM)
so earthlings who will throw the next stone.... ?
tikay
I would throw one, but simply appreciate the art of procrastination...
tikay
QUOTE (Zarkov+Jul 20 2008, 04:25 PM)

To become SANE, you need to set your biochemistry back to the way it would be if you were not living in a polluted world

This is only possible on you grossly polluted planet by biochemically removing the pollutants from your bodies and minds by targeted treatment.

Once this is accomplished one needs to be reprogrammed by residing with SANE people.

Quite simple really......

Failing that the whole  earthling civilisation needs to place in hospital care.

Obviously this ain't gonna happen.... so press the X button earthlings, to extinction.

Game over




What you fail to recognise dear starfriend is that we humans are star beings as well and a little pollution is not going to take anything from our destiny, we are golden! As you appear to feel that you are our superior (which would not be all that difficult admittedly) then as our superior, I expect better from you, that is my gripe with you. Superior races and entity usually have a wonderful way of elevating the ideas and spirits of man, they do not depreciate us and try to put fear into our hearts and minds. They show their superiority and they garner not only our will to trust, but they seem to qualify for affection and even sometimes love for them. These superior beings abound and are want to use the human channel for communications. These human channels have learned to get out of the way and let communications flow between the entity who is speaking and the listeners, or questioners. They also subjugate the personal id or ego and there is no need to persecute the listener, or to shame or cajole in a harmful way. The ultimate sin by you, for me...Is that you have not shown these qualities and seem to think you can fool someone into thinking you are the genuine article, while you are unaware (or so it seems) that you are outed as a mere human by your very scoffing at us and scare tactics. This is not the way of the higher mindset. Our planet is incredibly unique in the Universe, and being that it has had a very tumultuous time of it, as planets go, and much has happened to give humans a unique perspective in the universe, as sons and daughters of earth, we are never chastised by outside entity who have our best interests very much at heart. The only entity who would wish to harm us and fool us would be on the other end of the spectrum, and I hope you are not aligned with those forces.
Having said all that, I have decided to include something I happened upon this very morning which I feel is a fine example of an authentic channeled message from an etheric entity ( the source is in the link following the message. ), using the human form to communicate a message from the "outer reaches".
Another fine example would be The Urantia Book. (just google )
This should aid in my explanation of why I find you (most) disingenuine. And so it follows here:

Earth is continuing to fragment in her form as she casts off old layers of
spirit to don her new garment which is New Earth so that all can partake of
this reality. Nothing appears to be changing from a physical perspective and
we wish to draw your attention to the fact that what is underway is that
Earth is transmuting in her form at light speed into the most beautiful orb
of all divine colors conceivable. Most of these colors appear just beyond
your physical eyes. They exist in your peripheral vision and contain an
incomprehensible intelligence for they are the very building blocks of the
new world on a conscious level for one and all on Earth

~ {{{{{{ (((( (( :::: :: : ( () ) : :: :::: )) )))) }}}}}}} ~

MERKABAH FLAMING CHARIOTS OF ADONAI

BY COMMANDER LADY ATHENA AND THE ASHTAR COMMAND

Dear Commanders, You have asked information about our ships and which one you might be working upon? My answer may be more than you originally had in mind since we utilize neither space ships nor UFO's as you would be accustomed to thinking of them.

The Ashtar Command will join with me now in describing the Light technology which governs our interactions with Humankind. We will endeavor to impart to you an understanding of Merkabah.

The term, Merkabah, is the Hebrew word meaning chariot. Remember Erich von Däniken's wonderful book and 1970's film, Chariots Of The Gods? Allow us now to elucidate this sacred subject.

HOW WE BIRTH OUR MERKABAH: The Merkabah is a Spiritually birthed and quickened, glorified body of fiery Light. This Merkabah vehicle is an extension and radiation of our consciousness. It is generated out of our intensity of love for God, coupled with our desire to give of ourselves in selfless service.

You could say that it is the shape that our Spiritual intensity of Divine love and aspiration takes in time and space....met by descending Grace. This intensity of intent is what produces this multi dimensional and transdimensional auric,energy field called Merkabah or the fiery chariot.

Remember in the Holy Bible how the prophet Elijah ascended into heaven in a flaming chariot ? Perhaps this will have a deeper meaning for you now ? Elijah was simply demonstrating what you beloved ones are all called to aspire to eventually accomplish yourselves. Such ones who come and go via Merkabah are termed Ophanim, such as Elijah and Enoch. The Merkabah coordinates our function intention, purpose, time phase etc. as sons of super luminal Light, in fulfilling our missions for God. In sacred geometry this is symbolized by the star of David.

NO NUTS AND BOLTS IN OUR STAR SHIPS! Thus we are not utilizing third dimensional " nuts and bolts" metal space craft at all. However the fallen angels, Nephilim, or Satan el's are the ones who originally attempted through their ungodly sciences of technology to create an artificial metallic merkabah or UFO. It was this technology brought into Atlantis that led to it's energy aberration and subsequent destruction.

By means of these imitative metallic craft, devoid of the fire of love of the Living Spirit, these ones sought to mount up and ascend and rule the heavens. These rebellious spirits sought power to dominate, take captive, and control the universe. They sought to rule by means of their mental cleverness, knowledge, technology and force rather than through God's original plan of Divine Love.

The Satanels and Nephilim lack the fiery love for God necessary in order to birth a genuine Merkabah. They are unable to ascend through their mind force and loveless, technology they are soulless entities trapped by their own lawless rebelliousness. The Merkabah is thus the fiery carriage, the chariot of the Ultraterrestrial Adonim, the Lords of Light. It can take many forms and commonly manifests as a star tetrahedron.

OTHER EXTRATERRESTRIAL RACES: Perhaps we should add that there are as well other third density and fourth density, non ascended extraterrestrial races inhabiting the astral planes and lower heavens. These races are not necessarily fallen, nor rebellious although they are still utilizing the ufo type of ships. Their ships are constructed by combining etheric and higher mental energies in addition to titanium, and other substances. Often these metals and other components used for these ships are mined, within our solar system, upon our moon and Mars where these craft are frequently constructed for Confederation usage. Yes, they as well as we, all function within the Confederation of United and Peaceful Worlds. Such space craft are frequently powered by solar magnetically charged crystals. These other races are unfolding within the lower heavens in a similar, though not identical manner, to the root races upon Earth.

THE HUMAN SPECIES AND EARTH ARE UNIQUE: Earth is unique and apparently the only fallen world in need of a special program of redemption and restoration to the Divine Plan (for Earth housed the fallen and laggard of the destroyed planet, Maldek.)This program was instituted through the Office of the Christ in sending Jesus, a Divine Incarnation, as the Vessel of Remission and Salvation for Human Souls and Earth.

WHERE ARE WE FROM AND WHAT IS OUR MISSION ? We of the Ashtar Galactic Command are, at our higher levels, representatives of the Twelfth Kingdom of the Divine Throne Worlds of the Most High. We were initially known as The Orion Jerusalem Command. We originate from the "Imperishable Star" regions of the Elohim, the higher Heavens or Shamayyim of Sirius and Tak-Orion and the Greater Central Sun systems of the High Command.

We were sent into the lower heavens to guard and oversee the mission of the Most Radiant One, Lord Sananda/Jesus Emmanuel. To assist Him in the restoration of the Divine Will and plan upon Earth and to assist the prodigal sons of God, Humanity in their return to the Father's House of Many Mansions. We thus assist the Christ and His Spiritual Hierarchy of Earth in the Spiritual education and ascension of Mankind.

We aid in mankind's restoration to the Adam Kadmon, or original Divine design. Humanity is in process of emerging from the limited Human state into being full spectrum, unlimited light ..Ain Soph, ascended Star beings.

WHAT TYPE OF BEINGS ARE IN THE ASHTAR COMMAND? The numerous ranks within the Command are comprised of Etherians,Celestial s, Devas, Angels, multi dimensional ET's, Ultra terrestrials, Zoharim races, Whole Light Full Spectrum Beings, Adonim or Lords of Light, Elohi or Creator Beings, demigods, Divine Beings, Ophanim, Sirian Dolphin and Whale beings etc.: We have representatives from all dimensional planes, realms, worlds, sun systems etc. Millions of beings and perhaps we could more accurately say, billions come under our guardianship. We have also within our fleets beings at all levels of development Spiritually, both ascended and ascending, Humans and Man, those currently manifesting in the original (non-fallen) Divine Image and Similitude known as the Adam Kadmon. All of Humanity is destined to be returned to this Divine pattern of the Adam Kadmon.

HOW OUR SHIPS ARE MADE: Our "ships" are formed by our conjoined intent, for a specific purpose. Some of these are created, like a mayavirupa, a thought form made and held intact by meditational focus for a specific and temporary usage and purpose . Afterwards this thought focused energy can be dissolved, reconstituted or remolded according to our function and requirement. Some of our ships are composed of sentient micro organisms, some are partly amino-etheric computerized, or manned by robots. This is the case especially when we enter into the denser regions governed by the fallen masters of the dark lodge.

MERKABAH CAN ASSUME MANY FORMS: Life upon our mother ships closely resembles being upon a planetary world. These massive cities in space can house up to millions and are complete multi-dimensional ecosystems. These worlds in space can be as large as a city, or even in some cases a small country. Sometimes our ships are referred to as bioplasmic manifestations since they can appear as globs of multi colored lights that seem to morph into different configurations, and to separate and form new combinations of shape and formation.

THE GLORIOUS MYSTERY OF MERKABAH: There is really no way that we are able to convey to the human mind the most awesome revelation regarding the reality of Merkabah. The fact is that we, in ourselves, out of our own Divine nature and essence are our star ships! We become and form our Merkabah through our consciousness manifesting as this vehicle...which indeed can appear exactly like a UFO!

Within the higher heavens or Shamayyim, the Merkabah is replaced by an even more glorious manifestation known as the Zohar body. The Zohar, the highest of five energy -light bodies currently being developed within the advanced Human being, is similar to the Ananda rupa or Bliss body. The Zohar body or fiery chariot is a manifestation of one's Divinity, one's nature as a Son of God, just as the Merkabah is. The Merkabah has both an individual as well as a group or collective application where more than one being can conjoin as we do in creating the familiar, many tiered, lenticular cloud ships.

Perhaps some of you will have gained more clarity in comprehending what we are communicating here. If not we, refer you to two books that will assist in your understanding of the concept of Merkabah; The Keys of Enoch ( The Book Of Knowledge ) and a small booklet on The Five Bodies by Dr. J.J. Hurtak. The Academy of Future Science web site, affs.org or keysofenoch. org will be where you may order these books.

WHO IS THE ASHTAR COMMAND REALLY? You see Beloveds, we of the Ashtar Galactic Command are not your average psychic, astral plane level of phenomena, UFO or ET group. There are many such out there that you may encounter, but we are not one of them. What we are is quite literally, the Hosts of Heaven who over lighted, guided and served the Most High God, Adonai Tsebayoth the Lord God of Hosts and His Son, Our Most Radiant One, Emanuel, Yeshua Ha- Mashiah, Jesus the Christ during His Earthly mission. We continue to do so, as He continues to serve in ascending this planet, reclaiming it in the Father's Name as His and Humanity's Kingdom.

WHO THEN IS COMMANDER ASHTAR? Ashtar, the Commander in Chief of the Ashtar Galactic Command is an Adonai, a Lord of Light. One of the B'nai Or, B'nai Elohi, (Sons of Light, Sons of God.) He is a non-fallen Celestial Being that has advanced way beyond the levels of the ascended masters of Earth. Many of the original masters serving the Earth system have originally come primarily from Venus and Sirius. There are also some here from Mars, Jupiter, Neptune and Uranus, within our Earth's Hierarchy. There are also a few from Mercury, Saturn and currently Earth and elsewhere.

THE UNLIMITED NATURE OF OUR STAR SHIPS: Our star ships or Merkabahs are not limited by time or space. We can appear as small as a spark of light, or as large as the state of California . A Star, lenticular cloud, globe, bubble, pillar of Fire, pillar of Light, like a sun or moon, a zig zag, triangle, crescent, or star tetrahedron, a saucer or bell shape, etc. We lower our vibratory wave length and appear, we raise it and disappear. We glide upon the etheric wave bands and currents of space like a ship sails upon the ocean currents. We do not actually travel in the higher levels we utilize molecular displacement. This occurs by exchanging or displacing the molecules of one density coordinate with those of another.

Individuals on Earth serving also out of body within our fleets serve upon star ships that accommodate your specific frequency and density orientation. "your ship" is one that will match the level of your light body, your mission in service to the Universal Father. Within a myriad of worlds we, as Spirit Beings are ever in service to all forms of life.

YOUR SPIRITUAL CONNECTIONS AND 'UPLINE': You have also asked to know who are your " Spiritual Mentors"? As for the ones who constitute your Spiritual up line, we as well as you, work within specific Spiritual lineages, orders, inner and outer plane ashrams, etc. . . Within the Ashtar Command and the general ranks of Light Workers, all will function upon this planet through the Office of the Christ under the specific governance of Jesus the Christ. Within this universe, we also function through the ordinances of the Throne of God represented by the Archangel of the Divine Presence Metatron. At the highest levels we work within the lineages of the Masters of Light and Sound known as the Spiritual Wayshowers or Travelers. We all minister through the protocols of the Order of Melchizedek, and come under the protection of the Angelic Command of Michael, and the Orders of Michael and Gabriel. Some work under the Archangelic lineages of Uriel, Jophiel, Chamuel, Rafael, Zadkiel, or various angelic and other Devic groupings. The Orders of Enoch, Zadok, the Office of the Holy Spirit, lineage of the Master Mary, The Divine Mother, there are many such lineages.

There are also the many Spiritual cities within, upon and around the Earth; Telos, and the Agartha Inner Earth Cities , Shambhala, the Trans-Himalayan and South Indian Lodges of Masters. The Avatar and Kumara lineages, the Vairagi, lineage of Spiritual Travelers and so forth.

WHOMEVER YOU LOVE IS WITH YOU NOW: It is appropriate to assume that with Whom ever you experience a heart connection, you are associated with that One in some manner. It is most often one's own Self as a higher aspect that contacts or communicates through or to you! We have often emphasized the importance of not opening yourselves up indiscriminately to any spirit, whether extraterrestrial, a self proclaimed, ascended master, guru, or spirit guide. We of the Command and Confederation Fleets love and care deeply about every one of you. It is the desire of our hearts to see that each one who chooses to, fully manifest your Divine nature and heritage, fulfill your mission, and to be noble examples of Spirit led Sons of God.

May you be committed, humble and fruitful servers of all life, where ever you may be. In living thus you will be bringing honor to our Creator as well as adding to the good reputation of our Command. With our deepest love, the Ashtar Galactic Command and Commander Lady Athena. Adonai


There are many, many ships of many sizes working within the Ashtar Command. At this time, we will speak only of the Command ships, and not of those from other Commands who offer and give assistance.

Starting with the midway stations. I will endeavour to set out a listing of space ships and their purposes. This will only be relative to the effort which is known as ‘Operation Victory’ in other words, moving the Earth’s vibration up into higher dimensions.


SHAN CHEA

The greatest of all Mother Ships in the Command is known as “The New Jerusalem” consisting of a square space station in constant orbit around the Earth, with orbit distances varying from approximately 500 miles to 1,500 miles. This Station has thousands upon thousands of entities, who live there all the time. It also has monitoring equipment of great sophistication to assist in the mission of uplifting Earth’s frequencies.


SHARE

This is a true midway Station also orbiting the Earth, it is not square but circular and of a smaller stature. It is in permanent orbit at this time, from where ships all over the Universe check in and receive their orders. This is a vast Station, also housing thousands of volunteers and permanent workers. It could easily house 20 enormous sized Mother Ships at the one time.


MOTHER SHIPS – CITY SHIPS

These space ships were described in ‘On Earth Assignment’ as being round, about 100 miles in diameter, and 12 storeys high. These are available and ready at any time, to accept third dimensional Beings and able to adjust their frequency level to that of the ship. The facilities are sufficient to house them for several years if necessary.


MOTHER SHIPS – SECONDARY

These space ships can house up to 100 scout or shuttle ships, but have no facilities for housing third dimensional Beings. They are the ‘workhorses’ of the Ashtar Command. They are nevertheless very comfortable and Beings live on them for long periods at the time.


SHUTTLE SHIPS

Can be quite small and also up to 20 miles in diameter. They are conditioned for fast work in the evacuation of people from danger zones in any dimension, including yours the third dimension. They have temporary facilities that are comfortable for all types of Beings. For their safety, those in physical bodies are usually carried in their sleep state, to Mother Ships for rejuvenation.


SCOUT SHIPS

As their name implies, these are ships which check out conditions of interest or where problems exist, and report back their findings. They are circular and relatively small.


Generally speaking that is the categories. Although depending on their need, different uses are made of some ships. You know that your space friends are out there; you have seen the evidence and some of you have visited many of the ships. When you have had the pleasure of watching and enjoying the skies on a beautiful night, if a star turns out to be a space ship, you may never know it. The chances are you will never be able to visit it, except perhaps in your etheric body, and coming back to your physical body it is doubtful that you will have any recollection. Therefore why worry, enjoy the stars, enjoy the colours of those that might be ships, and know that your home is amongst the stars, as is the home of all Lightworkers on Earth.

We of ‘Operation Victory’ welcome all of you home. You are Beings of great Light and Love and we appreciate your doing the work of the Creator.”


From Littlejohn, 8th February 1989.


The above messages were then matched to others that were the subject of two channelled books by Tuella – “Ashtar a Tribute” and “On Earth Assignment” - Copyright 1988 by Guardian Action International.


SHAN CHEA

This is the earth-child satellite, and has been orbiting your earth now for almost two thousand years since the appearance of Jesus the Master upon your surface. Fifteen hundred miles square, it is a complex assemblage of instrumentation which permits constant surveillance of your surface and the Beings on it. The present altitude is five hundred miles and varies considerably from time to time.

Our headquarters is on one of the largest of the Mother Craft, and orders and instructions come from this craft, and it is a city in itself. Most of the people are natives of one or another of the planets in this solar system, but also we do have those working with us from other solar systems. Our workers do visit their home planets, at various times on what you may call vacations. Most of us have worked together for a very long time; we are a well knit Confederation and feel that we are an effective one.

The largest “Inn of Heaven” a floating etheric world, houses the headquarters of Lord Jesus Sananda, Lord Ashtar and the Ashtar Command.


SCHARE

This is different to Shan Chea in that it is a Quadra Station. It is not square, but what you call spheroid. Its purposes are also different in our system.


MOTHER SHIPS

Some Mother Ships anchored high up in your atmosphere are 100 miles across. They contain entire cities with gardens, grass, trees and accommodations for literally millions of people. There are many, many smaller craft coming and going from other ships. There is a great deal of activity in what earthlings think of as empty space. We are capable of invisibility and when our craft are travelling beyond the speed of light, we do become invisible to the physical eye.

Seven of these great Pearly White Space Cities are said to be in readiness as “Inns of Heaven”, which vary in size around 100 miles in diameter.

These ships have twelve levels in most cases:

1. Bottom – the entry and exit portal for trafficking craft. Includes disembarking platforms, parking docks, garages, maintenance departments, storage areas and Registration Headquarters.
2. A colossal stockroom, the Quartermaster Deck, containing all manner of supplies. It is an immaculate city of warehouses.
3. A vast zoo, including animal husbandry research and a birdland, with creatures from many worlds.
4. Agricultural research. It is like a vast farmland of well kept vegetables, gardens and fruit orchards. Much of the growth is blue instead of green.
5. Housing Center for all those technicians and persons who serve on the four levels below.
6. Recreational level and lushly landscaped park areas for residents of all ages.
7. Medical Complex. Patient facilities, dental care, biological research, ship’s laboratories and quarters for all medical personnel.
8. Housing prepared for Earth’s evacuees. It contains staterooms for individuals and apartments for families. There are countless joint dining areas, social halls, nursery care sections, laundry facilities and information offices.
9. University Compound. The Halls of Wisdom, vast libraries, endless concert halls and cultural interests, halls of learning for all ages, music rooms and computer classrooms.
10. Special apartments for visiting dignitaries from all dimensions, barracks for the ET’s, staterooms and apartments with multiple scattered conference rooms and beautiful sprawling dining and lounge areas.
11. Ashtar Command Headquarters and the Great Rotunda Meeting Hall. Earth evacuees are brought to this Great Hall for any necessary group gatherings. The Command Communication Center is located here.
12. Officers Observation Deck and pilot control center, which can be visited by appointment.

There are millions of craft operating in this solar system at all times, and many of these belong to the Ashtar Command. Some are stationed far above your planet and are more or less stationary for long periods of time, keeping track of the Earth on their monitoring systems. Others move about, discharging their various duties. We have small craft doing surveying activities, and we have larger craft with extended range that are capable of operating in space and which visit planets in other solar systems.

Each base or Earth unit does, at all times have its personal craft hovering within its vortex, for personal immediate relay of messages to or from that unit. This Station or platform never changes, although the persons involved might be removed temporarily for rest and relaxation, to return later. All of our signals, beams and contact are relayed to our messengers through the medium of these individual platforms of contact. In the atmosphere above a base unit, there is an invisible identifying beam that projects incredibly high above it for identification purposes. This beam projection identifies the particular command sponsoring the base unit. Those of you who serve in your places, be assured that all who participate in this program know you are there!

The true interplanetary craft, the Ventlas of our forces, will appear to your optics with a manifestation of colored lights, usually green, red and white. They will sometimes appear constantly red and green, other times they will appear to be flashing.

Questions have been asked why there are not more space ships seen in the skies. We would like to answer that by saying that they are there. It is not necessary for them to be seen in such great numbers at this time for their work. The time will come when great fleets of them, vast armadas will be seen in the skies, and that will tell you, who are drawn so close to our hearts, that another phase of our work has begun. At the moment we expect the conditions to be propitious for the taking of those who are inwardly prepared, on shorter or longer journeys. We know you are all longing for this. We hesitate ever to cause disappointment in any heart, and yet we must say that in some cases, the physical body could not take such a flight. It must be a body in perfect physical health, in a certain type of spiritual attunement, in a certain degree of soul evolvement and in a state of mental alertness and readiness.

COMMUNIQUÉ BY THE SPIRITUAL HIERARCHY AND GALACTIC FEDERATION

Through Sheldan Nidle

GALACTIC FEDERATION FLEETS

June 25th, 2002. 6 Batz, 14 Kayab, 10 Caban

From The Planetary Activation Organization (pao@hawaii.rr.com). Article taken from: http://www.paoweb.com/sn070902.htm Published by permission from PAO.

Selamat Jarin! We arrive with more to tell you. Many of you may wonder how we have set up our various fleets in your solar system. You may also have asked yourselves how each fleet's functions interrelate. To begin with, our fleets are positioned in three rings. The first ring surrounds Mother Earth and her artificial companion, your Moon. This fleet contains over one million ships, most of which are small, unarmed scout and transport vehicles. Their task is to observe you and your world, to oversee fleet operations and to transport certain types of supplies that cannot be teleported to our bases. Our bases, located beneath all of your continents, oceans and seas, are linked to a vast array of crystal cities and communities that comprise Inner Earth. Yet another group of bases is to be found on your Moon, which contains a huge network of command and research facilities. These stations provide the means for us to monitor your secret government's collection of space, time and inter-dimensional weaponry. They pose no potential threat to us.

Surrounding this first, or inner ring are several spokes that consist of a number of special liaison and defense fleets. Their purpose is, first, to supervise and, then, to take effective countermeasures whenever necessary. Our purpose is to refuse your secret government continued use of any weaponry that may pose a threat to our earthly allies. We have set up interplanetary 'stations' to close any inter-dimensional star-gates and to carefully monitor any artificially created distortions in time's natural waves. Here, bear in mind that physicality is actually an illusion created by its inhabitants' collective core belief and the dictates of the divine plan. In this, natural patterns occur in the way Time and Light coalesce to form 'space' — the stuff that produces realities. Dark, limited-conscious societies have used these natural patterns to construct fearsome weapons that alter realities, mutate dimensions and warp or constrict the flow of time. Your secret government has co-opted the work of many of your inventors and scientists, and merged it with a number of off-world technologies.



Other secret government technologies are capable of altering your physical, mental and emotional bodies. Their vile purpose is to bring about the eventual control of your minds. Then, they can complete the genetic alterations left undone by the fall of Atlantis some 13 millennia ago. Our mission is to neutralize and prevent any large-scale adoptions of these technologies. Every day, Heaven is working to finish, on schedule, the long process that will return you to full consciousness. Once again, we put on warning those in your secret government who continue to harbor the belief that they can hinder this sacred operation. We WILL NOT tolerate such attempts. Accordingly, we have established a full team of scientists and corresponding liaisons who are on the lookout for these programs and are then limiting their effectiveness. Properly applied, these technologies can substantially assist what Heaven is creating. Dear Friends, we most sincerely welcome a full disclosure of the covert acts, committed during most of Earth's last two centuries, that have hindered your return to full consciousness.

The second ring of fleet components is headquartered on Mars. These support groups consist mainly of sentient Beings who are not human in form. Many of them will be introduced to you soon after the beginning of first contact. Others will wait until you are restored to full consciousness. Within this second series of fleets are included some small, planetoid-sized Motherships, whose purpose is to augment the research and observations being done by the innermost ring of ships. They also have a number of tasks involving the weaponry and technology that, in the course of the past decades, has been given to your secret government. Most of this technology was supplied by the off-world star-nations, star leagues and star empires whose ships are to be found here. On Mars, a network of underground and surface bases acts as the 'control and command' segment of this exceedingly diverse fleet. These Galactic Federation personnel are also busily preparing Mother Mars for your arrival en masse, after your journey to full consciousness is completed.

Between the second and third rings are a large number of special, planet-sized command ships from our Science and Exploration (S&E) fleets. They will serve as the main command ships for this first contact mission. Standard procedure is to cloak these ships and keep them away from the prying eye of your many space telescopes. Their aim, essentially, is to find us. From time to time, we very briefly uncloak some of these Motherships in order to show your secret government that we are still here and do not intend to go away. We know that infrequent sightings of these ships by your astronomers go unreported. They fear reprisal, either by their peers or by those who give them their grants. Your secret government fears these ships the most because they fully realize the capability of such a fleet and the insignificance of any response they could mount. Here, we repeat that we are benevolent and operating under the full supervision of Heaven.

The outermost ring of our vast fleet is, by far, the largest. It contains millions of immensely varied ships, ranging from Motherships the size of large ocean liners to those nearly the size of Neptune or Uranus. These Motherships are simply our final back up, serving as components that will enter the second ring only when necessary. They proclaim to all potential adversaries that Mother Earth and your solar system are clearly experiencing a transformation that no Being, corporeal or non-corporeal in form, can prevent. Within this ring are the main transport stations that lead back to our vast profusion of home-worlds. Here, as well, are to be found the traffic coordinators for this immense fleet of ships. They serve to move all ships between these rings and back into interstellar or intergalactic space.


Illustration: Galactic Federation Fleet Positioning with Respect to Earth.
Not to scale, illustration by Luis Prada

Our fleet is divided into two components, as well. The first, and the smaller, has a very long duty cycle that includes our main command personnel, as well as our many medical and planetary teams. The second group, which is deliberately more temporary, consists of member fleets of the Galactic Federation of Light that dearly wish to be part of the most significant event in recent galactic history. We deeply understand that the need to watch over you is one of our greatest challenges, yet also one of our greatest joys. Every medical and planetary team is fully aware of what Mother Earth and you are undergoing. We have carefully observed and, when Heaven allows, have intervened. Every action of our fleet arises from events occurring on your world. Our entire team awaits first contact and what it means — the starting point for the next great step in our galaxy's history.

Our first contact command team, which contains all of our liaison boards and fleet commanders, is in charge of this immense fleet. There is also a special segment that comprises your local Spiritual Hierarchy. Remember, dear Friends, that our purpose for coming here is divine. Heaven summoned us and we came. To control such vast, diverse fleets is highly unusual in a first contact operation. Normally, a single S&E fleet accomplishes this mission in very short order. This mission, however, is unique and of vital significance. It has drawn immense attention and lasted much longer than usual. We have found room for such a wide diversity of ships and yet remained capable of fulfilling this mission. Be confident, dear Friends, that this mission will be achieved and that first contact draws nearer every day.

Today, we have briefly reviewed how we have amassed our first contact fleets. They are poised and ready to complete first contact. This mission is operating according to the divine right order and timing of Heaven. Therefore, we ask you to remain focused and committed to your inevitable success. Know, dear Friends, that soon we shall meet and at last be able to celebrate all that it implies. We now take our leave. Blessings! Know, dear Ones, in your heart of hearts, that Heaven's boundless Abundance and Prosperity is truly yours! Amen. Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! Be in Joy!)

~ }*{ INLOVE ANDLIGHT FOREVERYOURS }*{ ~

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NOTE: Perhaps you could let me know which sort of being you are, if you find that you fit into any of these catagories?
Otherwise you should not be so shy as to keep to yourself your affiliation, since most entity who are communicating from outside earthly rhelm, identify themselves without any problem.

As you can see the negativity that you bring in your type of communique is not at all like the entity here, and most channeled information is very much like this...so study up if you want to appear to be the genuine article my friend!

(((GAME OVER)))
CiAO!
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Fourwinds gives many thanks to Gloria Excelsias at the "I Am University"--

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-- for the permission to host this material.--

Agartha In The Hollow Earth

[19] I--ve spoken of the greatest cover-up of all time being the suppression of the fact that extraterrestrials have been visiting Earth from other planets [foot-note one]. If that is the biggest cover-up of all time, then the second biggest cover-up of all time is the attempt to keep secret the fact that there is a civilisation of people living in the centre of the Earth. The civilisation is known as --Agartha--. This might be hard to believe, I know it was difficult for me at first. However, I now have absolute knowingness of the truth of it.

[foot-note one] Refer to the link entitled --Extraterrestrials And Other Government Cover-ups--

To begin with, Buddhist theology affirms its existence. It is believed to be a race of supermen and superwomen who occasionally come to the surface to oversee the development of the human race. It is also believed that this subterranean world has millions of inhabitants and many cities, its capital being Shamballa




The King of this world is believed to have given orders to the Dalai Lama of Tibet, who is his terrestrial representative. His messages are transmitted through certain secret tunnels connecting the inner world of Agartha with Tibet.

The famous Russian channel Nicholas Roerich, who was a channel for Ascended Master El Moyra, claimed that Lhasa, the capital of Tibet, was [19] connected by a tunnel with Shamballa in the inner Earth. The entrance of this tunnel was guarded by Lamas who were sworn to secrecy. A similar tunnel was believed to connect the secret chambers at the base of the Great Pyramid at Giza with Agartha. The first public scientific evidence of Agartha--s existence occurred in 1947 when Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd of the United States Navy flew to the North Pole and instead of going over the pole he actually entered the inner Earth. In his diary, he tells of entering the hollow interior of the Earth, along with others, and travelling seventeen hundred miles over mountains, lakes, rivers, green vegetation, and animal life. He tells of seeing monstrous animals resembling the mammoths of antiquity moving through the brush. He eventually found cities and a thriving civilisation.

His plane was finally greeted by flying machines of a type he had never seen before. They escorted him to a safe landing place and he was graciously greeted by emissaries from Agartha. After resting, he and his crew were taken to meet the King and Queen of Agartha. They told him that he had been allowed to enter Agartha because of his high moral and ethical character. They went on to say that ever since the United States had dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they had been very concerned about their own safety and survival. They had decided that it was time to make greater contact with the outside world to make sure humanity didn--t destroy that planet and their civilisation with it. Byrd had been allowed in so they could make contact with someone that they trusted. To make a long story short, when their visit was finished, Admiral Byrd and his crew were guided in their plane back to the outer world, their lives having been changed forever.

In January 1956, Admiral Byrd led an expedition to the South Pole. On that expedition he and his crew penetrated two thousand three hundred miles into the centre of the Earth. Admiral Byrd states that the North and South Poles are only two of the many openings into the center of the Earth [foot-note two]. Admiral Byrd also states that the inner Earth has it--s own sun. Byrd--s theory is that the poles of the Earth are concave, rather than convex, and ships and planes can actually sail or fly right in.

[foot-note two] I can--t help thinking about Jules Verne--s famous science --fiction-- book, --Journey To The Center Of The Earth-- [Joshua Stone, 1995]. The American press announced Admiral Byrd--s discovery, but it was immediately suppressed by our good friends, the secret government. Ray palmer, the editor of the magazine --Flying Saucer--, published a detailed [21] story about Admiral Byrd--s discoveries. The United States government bought, stole, or destroyed almost every copy and then destroyed the plates at the printing office [foot-note three]. I have been told exactly the same thing happened to an article about Admiral Byrd--s discovery published by --National Geographic--. The magazine was released, and the U.S. government gobbled up almost every issue. If the story was not true, why would the government be so nervous?
[foot-note three] The psychological symbolism would have been that those that destroyed all these magazines had a significant mentor that destroyed their spirit in their tentative years [John].

It is interesting to note that the United States government does not allow planes to fly over the poles. All flights are directed to go around the poles, and any airline pilot flying in those areas will confirm this. Another interesting point is that icebergs are composed of fresh water, not salt water. It is also curious that it is warmer nearer the poles than it is six hundred to one thousand miles away from them. The opening at the poles might also explain why there are so many UFO sightings in those areas. In his book --The Hollow Earth--, Dr. Raymond Bernard tells of a man who has conformed Admiral Byrd--s story. This man is Dr. Nephi Cotton of Los Angeles, who reported that one of his patients, a man of Nordic descent, told him the following story:

--I lived near the Artic Circle in Norway. One summer my friend and I made up their minds to take a boat trip together and go as far as we could into the north of the country. So we put a month--s worth of provisions into a small fishing boat and set to sea.

At the end of one month we had travelled far into the North, beyond the pole and into a strange new country. We were much astonished at the weather there. It was warm, and at times at night it was almost too warm to sleep. Then we saw something so strange that we were both astonished. Ahead us on the warm open sea was what looked like a great mountain. Into that mountain at a certain point the ocean seemed to be emptying. Mystified, we continued in that direction and found ourselves sailing into a vast canyon leading into the interior of the earth. We kept sailing, and then we saw what surprised us-- a sun shining inside the Earth.


The ocean that had carried us into the hollow interior of the Earth gradually became a river. This river led, as we came to realise later, all through the inner world, from one end to the other. It can take you, if you follow it long enough, from the North Pole through to the South Pole.

We saw that the inner surface of the Earth was divided, as the outer one is, into both land and water. There is plenty of sunshine and both animal and vegetable life abound there. We sailed further and farther into this fantastic country - fantastic because everything was huge in size as compared with things on the outside. Plants were big, and trees gigantic. Finally we came to meet giants themselves.

They were dwelling in homes and towns, just as we do on the Earth--s [22] surface, and they used a type of electrical conveyance like a monorail car to transport people. It ran along the river--s edge from town to town. Several of the inner Earth--s inhabitants, huge giants, detected our boat on the river and were quite amazed. They were, however, quite friendly. We were invited to dine with them in their homes, and so my companion and I separated, he going with one giant to that giant--s home and I going with another to his home.

My gigantic friend brought me home to his family and I was completely dismayed to see the huge size of all the objects in his home. The dinner table was colossal. A plate was put before me and filled with a portion of food so big it would have fed me abundantly for an entire week. The giant offered me a cluster of grapes and each grape was as big as one of our peaches. I tasted one and found it far sweeter then any I had ever tasted outside. In the interior of the Earth all the fruits and vegetables tasted far better and more flavorsome than those we have on the outside of the Earth.

We stayed with the giants for one year, enjoying their companionship as much as they enjoyed knowing us. We observed many strange and unusual things during our visit with these remarkable people, and were continually amazed at their scientific progress and inventions. All of this time they were never unfriendly to us, and we were allowed to return to our home in the same manner in which we came-- In fact, they courteously offered their protection if we should need it on the return voyage--. An additional account of a visit to the hollow earth was told by another Norwegian, Olaf Jansen, and was recorded in --The Smokey God--, written by Willis George Emerson and published in 1908 [foot-note four]. The book relates the experiences of a Norse father and son who, in their small fishing boat, attempted to find --the land beyond the North Wind--, which they had heard about. A windstorm apparently carried them through the polar opening and into the hollow interior of the Earth. They spent two years there and upon returning through the Southern Polar opening, the father lost his life when an iceberg broke in two and destroyed the boat. The son was rescued, but when he told his incredible story, he was placed in a prison for the insane because no-one would believe him. After being released and spending twenty-six years as a fisherman, he moved to the United States. In his nineties he befriended Willis George Emerson and told him his story. On his deathbed he also gave Emerson maps that he had made of the interior of the Earth along with a manuscript relating his experiences.

[foot-note four] The term --Smoky God-- refers to the central sun in the hollow interior of the Earth, which is smaller and less brilliant than the outer sun and so appears --smoky-- [Joshua Stone, 1995]. He said that the people live for four hundred to eight hundred years and are twelve feet tall or more. Their scientific technology is very advanced. They can transmit their thoughts to each-other using certain [23] kinds of radiation and they have sources of power greater than electricity. They make --flying saucers-- that are operated by their superior power, which is drawn from electromagnetism in the atmosphere.

It is notable that in 1942, Nazi Germany sent out an expedition composed of some of its leading scientists in an attempt to find an entrance to the hollow Earth. G--ring, Himmler, and Hitler enthusiastically endorsed the project. The f--hrer was convinced that the earth is concave and that humanity lives o the inside of the globe.

In --The Hollow Earth--, Bernard tells of a photograph published in 1960 in the --Globe And Mail-- in Toronto, Canada, which shows a beautiful valley with lush green hills. An aviator claimed that the picture had been taken from his airplane as he flew --beyond the North Pole--. Earlyne Chaney--s Channellings About The Hollow Earth

Earlyne Chaney [foot-note five] gives a fascinating account of how Agartha came into being in her book --Revelations Of Things To Come--. She had a hard time accepting the truth of Agartha--s existence, but her guides were absolutely adamant about it, and its importance to human civilisation both now and in the future.

[foot-note five] Channel for Kuthumi, the Virgin Mary, and Zoser, an Egyptian Pharoah [Joshua Stone, 1995].

Earlyne--s channellings state that ages ago, very advanced souls came to Earth from other planets. She calls them Anunnaki; their offspring on Earth are the Annu. It was these beings who brought the --arks of the covenant-- that were used as laser guns and gravity control devices for the uplifting of the Earth--s civilisation. The Anunnaki and the Annu helped to build the great civilisations of Atlantis and Lemuria. Eventually, the Anunnaki departed, leaving the Earth in the hands of the Annu who had mated with Earthlings. As time went on, Atlantis began to be taken over by the Sons of Belial [foot-note six], or the Dark Brotherhood. The Annu, realizing the destruction of Atlantis was approaching, fled to other lands, especially Egypt. They helped to build the pyramids with their arks of the covenant. However, they also used these instruments to bore deep underground, building underground tunnels and cities. When the deluge and pole sift were about to demolish Atlantis and Lemuria, the Annu entered their inner-Earth cities through the Great Pyramid. They then sealed the pyramid, preventing Earthlings from discovering their underground passages and keeping out the waters of the flood.

[foot-note six] The --Lords Of Materialism--, and the followers of the fallen Angel Beelzebub [John]. Agartha consists of vast continents, oceans, mountains, and rivers. Shamballa is its central city. The population there is highly evolved. Earlyne says that the civilisations of the Yucatan, Peru,Brazil, Cambodia, and Tibet also went underground and that many UFOs come from the inner Earth. She conforms that the Earth has a inner sun; the aurora borealis is [24] a reflection of it. She also confirms that there are openings at both Poles, as Admiral Byrd Said.

It is interesting to note that the Egyptian government has found many of these tunnels and has tried to explore them over the past thirty years but they are so complex and extensive that they have recently been sealed for fear tourists would venture into them and get lost forever [foot-note seven].

[foot-note seven] Or perhaps the --secret government-- have made it harder for anyone that might have left the --top-side-- of the Earth, and fled to the Agartha lands in the run-up to the 2012 planetary changes [John]. In another fascinating book by Chaney called --Beyond Tomorrow--, Robert Stacy-Judd, a noted archeologist from California, tells of being in the Yucatan and entering the stupendous --Cave Of Loltun-- with a party of six researchers. They descended far into the depths of the Earth and then realised that they were lost. They became very concerned when all of a sudden from farther down in the depths, a light came towards them. The light turned out to be a torch carried by an old blind hermit who told them he had seen them clairvoyantly and knew they were lost. Even though blind, he proceeded to lead them back to the Earth--s surface.

The men were exceedingly grateful and asked the hermit where he lived. The hermit told them that the cave was his home and that he came to the surface every few months. When asked how he survived, how he found food and water to drink, he said he was cared for by the friends who lived in the beautiful inner city in the depths of the Earth. He paused long enough to have his picture taken, then disappeared back into the cave. Telos, Beneath Mt. Shasta

I attended a lecture given by a woman named Sharula and her husband, Shield, who stated that she was something like three hundred and fifty years old and that they came from the underground city of Telos, which apparently is a couple of miles beneath Mt. Shasta. I listened very intently to their teachings and have to admit they were both very sharp and knew their stuff, in a spiritual sense. I agreed with everything they said. However, I have to admit I did question her statement about being over three hundred and fifty years old. The next day, when I was receiving a healing treatment from a friend who is exceedingly clairvoyant, I told her about the lecture. She said that she could tell from a picture if what Sharula had said were true. I happened to have the advertisement for the lecture I my car, and it contained a picture of both Shield and Sharula.

Upon looking at Sharula--s aura in the picture, my friend said that it was totally different from a normal human aura and that she felt that there was a good possibility that Sharula had been telling the truth about her age and home. My own intuition and inner guidance had felt it to be true; it was interesting to get this confirmation.

There are apparently underground tunnels and cities at various levels [25] of the Earth--s crust throughout the planet. Many of the beings who live there are apparently coming to the surface now, just as extraterrestrials are coming to Earth in great abundance. Whenever I research a subject I like to get Djwhal Khul--s feedback on the information [foot-note eight] I have come up with. I told him what I had learned, and he had a number of interesting things to add.

First of all, he confirmed that Admiral Byrd had indeed travelled to the inner Earth as he had claimed. He said that the aurora borealis is not caused by the sun of the inner Earth but by a different light source. He said that the openings at the Poles are very wide, so ships and planes can fly into them, but that they are naturally protected by an energy field. People can find them if they really search, even though they are camouflaged by the energy field. He confirmed that there are entrances to the inner Earth in Egypt, Tibet, and the Yucatan, and added that there are other entrances in the Bermuda Triangle, the former Soviet Union, and Africa. He said that there are different races in the inner Earth, just as on the surface, and that some of them are quite tall. He also confirmed that the United States government and those of other countries are aware of the inner Earth and are hiding the information about it [foot-note nine] just as they are hiding their connections with extraterrestrials. He also confirmed Earlyne--s story of the Annu and their escape into the tunnels just prior to the flood. However, he added that beings had been living there long before the Atlanteans came.

[foot-note eight] Throughout His life Joshua Stone employed the method of Soul Travelling to commune with the Ascended Master Djwhal Khul [John]. [foot-note nine] The psychology here would be that a significant mentor of these --hiders-- also --hid-- things from them whilst they were growing up [John].

Among the Native American peoples, the Navajo legends teach that the forerunners of man came from beneath the Earth. The ancient ones had supernatural powers but were driven from their caverns by a great flood. Once on the surface, they passed on their great knowledge to the human race before once again seeking their great sanctuary.

The Pueblo Indians-- mythology also places their gods-- place of origin in the inner earth. The inner world was supposedly connected to the surface people by a hole in the North. The ancient writings of the Chinese, Egyptians, and Eskimos speak of a great opening in the North and of a race of people who live under the Earth--s crust. The writings say that their ancestors came from the paradise land in the Earth--s interior.

In the Buddhist tradition, ancient philosophy states that Agartha was first colonized many thousands of years ago when a holy man led a tribe that disappeared under the ground. The present population of that underground kingdom is believed to number many millions and the people are [26] believed to possess a science, far superior to any found on the surface of the Earth, that includes cars that run at tremendous speeds through underground tunnels.

In the ancient legends of Quetzalcoatl, the great avatar of the Aztecs and Toltecs, it is told that he vanished on a flying saucer for eight days and visited the subterranean world.

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AND

Fires Set off in California is Ecoterrorism

Greetings our brothers and sisters dwelling under the shade of our leaves and boughs of our branches. We are the Tree People, standing on your land-forms in all our majesty and grace. We sing to you through our branches and leaves, hoping the tune will 'catch you' and you will feel our essences and rejoice in our contact. We will talk to you now about the fires in the state of California, and the smoke shrouding your Mountain in Mt. Shasta, and covering you with soot and ashes and particles unhealthy to breathe.

These fires were targeted and set off by your secret government who are using Nature to burn our lives and pollute the air with our smoke to make you sick so that they can reduce the population through sickness and better control your lives through fear. It is the most 'smart' weapon they now have available, with the technology back-engineered from fallen space craft and given to them by the unholy negative extraterrestrials.

They knew exactly where the lightning strikes would hit, because they themselves precisely targeted the locations and then detonated the lightning charges. It is quite simple, and they have excelled in this kind of warfare, using all the forces of Nature and making it appear as if it is Nature herself who is responsible for this. (The new name for this kind of warfare is 'Weather Warfare' and it is the military's plan to Draft Mother Nature. This name is from the book "Weather Warfare by Jerry E. Smith")

Yes, Nature herself is creating some disasters in response to the disequilibrium in her body caused by humanity's total disregard for her life. But, we must say this, that most of these earthquakes, tsunamis, floodings, droughts, volcano eruptions, winds, hurricanes, tornadoes, fires - you name it - are now being deliberately caused by your governments to solve their problem of having too many of you on the surface, because too many people are too hard to control. The less people they have to control, the more they can put you into servitude to themselves - and this is their ultimate goal: to own you and to own the Earth.

We Trees stand here and watch it all unfold. We try to make contact with you, but you turn a deaf ear and blind eye to us, and ignore us as we stand silently right by your very side. We are here as your bastions of strength, your warriors in disguise, who when aligned with us can overthrow the tyranny of these dark ones by our combined strength and wisdom.

All the Forces of Nature are on your side, if you will but align with our consciousness and stand solidly with us to disarm them. We do this through our combined consciousnesses - for when we combine our consciousness, our Light exponentially magnifies and accelerates at speeds beyond your current imaginations - and the Light when exponentially magnified increases its Light Quotient which can disarm and neutralize and quell all negativity on Earth, leaving not only humanity, but all life-forms free to evolve as we were always meant to.

Do you see why it is so important to connect with us? You have heard of the term 'divide and conquer"? Well, this tactic is obvious here in the Nature realm, and the darkness knows this tactic so well. They have divided us, by separating us because of our different forms. Well, now you are onto their game, and it is not so difficult to figure it out, is it? Just unite with us, and we can be a force so great that even their best strategists would not know what to do, and would give up in alarm and flee their posts. You know this phrase well: 'united we stand, divided we fall.'

So stand with us in our strength, and we will carry you to Freedom. All other life forms are connected with us, as we are connected with all, except you humans.who up until now have wanted no part of the rest of God's Creation. But since you are also part of God's Creation, why not join forces with all of us, not just our Tree People, but all of Nature's Creations, all of Nature's Life Forms, and lend your consciousness to all of ours, and we will be able to surmount and overcome all tyranny everywhere on Earth.

We invite you, our human brothers and sisters, to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. Separation is part of the problem - actually, separation is the whole problem, and none of this would have occurred had you not separated yourselves from each other and from us. Then you could not have been fooled and deceived, because you would have had access through our combined group consciousnesses to know the truth of what is happening before it got so out of control. Now your life is controlled, rather than your controlling your life.

We are the Tree People, but we speak on behalf all other life forms stationed on your surface.

We wish you a good day.

Received through Dianne Robbins
http://www.DianneRobbins.com

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http://www.rainbowstar.ch/en/channeled_messages.html

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MjolnirPants
QUOTE (tikay+Jul 30 2008, 06:57 PM)
NOTE: Perhaps you could let me know which sort of being you are, if you find that you fit into any of these catagories?
Otherwise you should not be so shy as to keep to yourself your affiliation, since most entity who are communicating from outside earthly rhelm, identify themselves without any problem.

As you can see the negativity that you bring in your type of communique is not at all like the entity here, and most channeled information is very much like this...so study up if you want to appear to be the genuine article my friend!

Tikay I love you! laugh.gif
Even by the incredibly lenient standards o evidence adhered to by those who actually believe such things as ole Zarky here would have us believe, he's still demonstratably unable to make sense.
tikay
I love you too, my pants!
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I have no animosity toward the dude, but a liar is a liar and it's simple (as it appears to be) the TRUTH is that he is most probably a big CON!


Seems I left out parts of an article above which I will now include for the perusal of those affected:

see just before the big AND in my above post...and then this to complete it.

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Russian explorer Ferdinand Ossendowski, author of --Beasts, Men and Gods--, relates his own experiences in Mongolia. In his travels he came across Mongolian legends of the subterranean world of Agartha, ruled by the King of the world who resides in the holy city ofShamballa. The legend says that in ancient times, a Mongolian tribe seeking to escape Genghis Khan hid in a subterranean land. They were shown a door that turned out to be the entrance to the kingdom of Agartha. According to Ossendowski, who was considered a great authority on the subterranean worlds, Agartha extends through subterranean tunnels to all parts of the world. These tunnels run under both major oceans and under all continents of the Earth and there are swift vehicles that move through them. He believes that the inhabitants of both Atlantis and Lemuria found refuge there.</SPAN>
Hidden Cities

There are over one hundred subterranean colonies underneath the Earth, all but one of them quite close to the surface. These underground cities have been referred to as the --Agartha Network--. Their customs vary, but they follow a common, spiritually oriented structure of living - the Melchizedek teachings [foot-note eleven]. The average population of these cities is five hundred thousand, but Telos, beneath Mt. Shasta, has over 1.5 million inhabitants. A second colony of approximately the same size is located beneath the Matto Grosso Plains of Brazil. This Atlantean outpost is called Posid. Although Atlantis and Lemuria have become myth to most people on the surface of the Earth, in reality they are just continuing their evolution underground.

[foot-note eleven] The Melchizedek are an ancient priesthood that disseminates the teachings of the --Great White Brotherhood-- throughout the universe [Joshua Stone, 2006].

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I do hope these were appreciated by those with open minds. wink.gif

Just move from here into further discovery! ~peace~ your tikay

MjolnirPants
QUOTE (tikay+Jul 30 2008, 08:49 PM)
I love you too, my pants!
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I have no animosity toward the dude, but a liar is a liar and it's simple (as it appears to be) the TRUTH is that he is most probably a big CON!

I disagree there. He's not published any books claimin to hold extra-terrestrial secrets to happiness which can be ours fer the low, low price o $19.95 per moth for the next 15 months, or any other such indication that he intends to profit by it.
I reckon he's prolly jes a liar who thinks he's actually foolin somebody, an that makes him feel like a big man.
tikay
Ah~ p'haps...but not probably as big as those living beneath the earth!



magpies
Perhaps we all just misunderstand each other?
tikay
Still somehow secretly understanding? biggrin.gif
Zarkov
Well any sane reasonable person would note that the above posts are LOL...sane according to modern standards

of This Age Of Universal Madness
tikay
Even a mere insect would sense much of the possible within them. You on the other hand would rather have us believe your mess-age of negativeity. And that we should be exterminated, rather than saved by benevolent, caring brethern in space. You go 'head and belive as you will. It is your choice after all...I suppose it makes you strangely happy to believe that muck you purport! rolleyes.gif
tikay
THE GALACTIC FEDERATION OF LIGHT "FIRST CONTACT"

First Contact is an operation that began in 1990 as a simple directive from the Sirian Regional Council; its scope was expanded when the Main Federation Council approved this action in 1991....





'First Contact' will start when a special series of major announcements are made by the world's major governments, which will be almost simultaneous. They will announce that E.T's are here and benevolent, and will acknowledge the part the Galactic Federation has played, in assuring the new reality manifests according to the divine plan. Once the series of formal announcements and the global delivery of your abundance are complete, we will begin our own proceedings. These will include a series of daytime flyovers. We will accompany them with an announcement of who we are and what we are doing. The next step will be a number of small landings. At this point, we will permit you to inspect our craft and choose a few individuals to take a brief 'joyride' in or ships. 'First Contact' would also take place, to land en masse if requested by the Spiritual Hierarchy. Special, planet sized command ships from the Scientific and Exploration fleets will serve as the main command ships for the First Contact mission. Fifty human star-nations are involved in 'First Contact'. Our mission is divine and our aim will be to manifest many important projects, to promote world peace, alter social, cultural and economic structures, and permit Mother Earth to transform herself. As a final step, we will introduce you to your local Spiritual Hierarchy, and re-unite you with your brethren in the Inner Earth. There will be an ongoing series of announcements by the Ascended Masters that will help resolve certain cultural power struggles and make possible cross cultural co-operation. Each one will step forward and explain the origins and histories of your many cultures and religions, and radical changes will take place in your religious struggles. Our Earth allies are acutely aware that the moment of formal 'First Contact' will end the many millennia in which the 'divide and conquer' rule ran this reality. It will also proclaim that we will no longer tolerate the greed and arrogance of your present cabals. The announcement of 'First Contact' will encourage full disclosure of the now super-secret UFO government files. The area of so-called UFO studies requires a spiritual arm. This segment enables us to look beyond the technology and realise that advanced, enlightened societies are primarily spiritual in nature....





The inner 'Sun' (core) is changing, Mother Earth is preparing to make rapid changes in her existing appearance. Her ability to sustain her Eco-web is shrinking, because of life threatening effluents produced by your industrial society. The Eco-system is gripped in crisis. You need to embrace the tasks inherent in the guardianship of Mother Earth and her fragile Eco-system. The cetaceans and the Inner Earth society of Agartha are most eager to act as your mentors in these matters. We too are ready to offer assistance if needed. To this end, we have organised a series of scientific liaison teams that specialise in advanced ecological techniques....





The changing nature of Mother Earth has a time frame by which Heaven has permitted her to change completely into her new self. Once this transformation begins, you will no longer be able to live on her surface. You will have to be re-located swiftly to our ships, or the extraordinary dwellings we have built in Inner Earth for this purpose. Look upon them as surrounded by force fields, holographic technology and loving resolve. There you will be quickly changed into your fully conscious selves. The Earth's flora and fauna will be evacuated to special environments on Mother ships....





Masters of both this world and Sirius have joined together, they will appear before you. Direct contact personnel hail from the Pleiades Star League, Constellation of Andromeda, Lyra, Perseus and Aries, as well as the Sirius Star Nation. They will act as guides and teachers for your coming transitional period. Ships from many different human galactic societies will welcome you into the Galactic League of Light. The first ring of ships, surrounds Mother Earth and your artificial Moon. This fleet contains over one million ships. Our first reporters will be liaisons and chosen from our several primarily human off-world galactic societies. Liaison teams will make a series of global broadcasts; two programmes are planned to introduce us. We will train small units of two to six ships each. These ships will land enabling the local populace the opportunity to view them. For a short time the Galactic Federation teams will leave their ships to instruct you regarding this technology, and explain your responsibility as Physical Angels. We will begin a programme to allow you to visit our Motherships. There will be vast flyovers by scout ships, which will occur before mass landing....





We will release secret technologies, and even more wondrous devices, including many energy and transportation related inventions, that have been produced around your world during the past century. Your secret governments suppressed this technology, along with many other environmental innovations, out of deep-seated fear that such discoveries could result in their downfall. We will also introduce more workable technology, and allow each of you to obtain information – and to contact one another with ease. The rise of a post-Internet environment, which we have initiated, will introduce you to new options in communication and entertainment. Simple handheld or easy to wear devices, will provide instant information, and enable you to contact freely anyone else on your world. Using small organic computers, you will become globally recognisable by your body's true frequency. These devices inter-phase with your mind, providing a 3D holographic picture that contains data, images etc. The commercial system will be 3D full colour telepathic holography. Anyone who wishes to communicate can simply visualise a person and their computer will contact them. It will include a universal translator and a special frequency dialling system, that is closely linked to your unique physical signature. Each household will receive a device that converts light energy into matter to provide clothing and food. Remember that abundance programmes will allow you to have all the financial resources you need. Our Earth allies have consented to many agreements even more powerful than NESARA. These provisions are not to be released to the general public, until the first set of agreements has been publicly announced. Only then will the second and third waves of actions be revealed and made public law....





We will introduce you to technology will allow you to travel more freely. You will be provided with a new form of transportation, and your new personal vehicles will levitate a few feet off the ground, and. are capable of speeds up to 500 miles (800 kilometres) per hour. Aircraft as you know them will disappear and be converted to a 'magnetic lifter' technology, with Mach 8 capabilities, as well as providing primitive craft that resemble ours. A teleportation system will be available for long range emergency trips. We will also use this technology to build a fully automated highway system....





An extensive training programme for medical practices that are not harmful to health will be introduced. It will align your medical services more closely to ours. You will absorb an enormous amount of new information, and to help assimilation of the vast quantities of knowledge, we will provide a technology that can 'download' it directly into your brain's memory and recall systems. You will develop your Science and expand your philosophies in ways yet unheard of, resulting in a glittering union of these now contradictory elements. We will introduce you to the wonders of 'artificial intelligence'. We will supply a system of technologies that with your manifested abilities, will reverse the pollution that now fouls your air, land and water on Mother Earth, in less than six months. Our second objective will be the factories, offices, homes, power generating stations, air, water and land vehicles that spew out most of the pollution. Free-energy devices will be introduced that can be mass-produced quickly. Using our technology, we can vaporise and fully erect buildings in a matter of days, and will re-tool your manufacturing network in less than a week. Moreover, we can fully automate it. Technological gadgets will allow you to end your dependence upon manufactured materials. You will be able to construct your own dwellings and collectively plan your cities. Your rural areas will be returned to their original condition of unspoiled forests and meadows. A number of our technologies can convert living Light into food, clothes and other uses, thus ending your long dependence on agriculture and the lumber industry. Remember that technology is a tool, provided by consciousness, to create as pleasurable an environment as possible. You need to make the next grand 'leap' – that is, to grow from a planetary society to a galactic one. Never forget, dear Ones, that you are mutating into 'Homo Galactica', A more integrated version of you, this galactic human, possesses the ability to hold open, meaningful dialogue with your true self....





Special World Centres will be created. A new financial system will be born. This reorganisation of your worldwide wealth is preparing the way for a new era of power on your world. This power will be 'people based' and lack the malevolent self-interest of your former secret rulers. Many groups, on your world and off, are co-operating with the spiritual realm to put an end to that which is preventing the manifesting of your financial abundance, and the rapid establishment of world peace. Our main objective remains a 'safe and sane' successful conclusion to our First Contact Mission. This process involves many different possibilities. The one we prefer is to be silent support for a swift and successful military, political and economic transition on your world. Vast sums have been re-ordered, catalogued and prepared for distribution. The funds, bank networks and list of recipients are ready. Crucial inroads in our ability to control and force a series of major resignations in a number of powerful governments are also in place. Moreover, legal documents to begin this procedure have been signed and legally adjudicated on the highest possible levels. Governments will re-form or resign, and the UN will be re-organised, and a new international mandate of human sovereignty and freedom proclaimed. The glut of self seeking Multi-Nationals will be re-structured. New rules of conduct will be implemented. The current concept of 'Corporation' will be legally rendered. Large electrical power plants that now fuel your cities and industries will disappear....





We have observed the many biological projects produced in the dark cabal's laboratories. While we have drastically curtailed these projects since the late 1990's, several of them, introduced during the 1970's and '80s, devastated your world and became major global epidemics. Our medical teams are monitoring them and can directly interfere only when First Contact occurs. Therefore, we call upon all concerned to use your spiritual and physical resources to counter these artificially created epidemics. The secret 'closed doors' policies of the past will be abolished....





We have doubled the number of defence ships operating in the solar systems Earth-Moon quadrant. We have also tightened the special inter-dimensional security shield that surrounds your planet, and can prevent anyone that we have not authorised, from leaving or entering your planet. We will disarm all nuclear weaponry, and supply suitable replacements for all nuclear powered electrical generation facilities in your world. We will need to move certain divisions of our fleet closer to you. This means also that, at the appropriate time, we will shut down all adverse military communications and immediately hand over these responsibilities to our Earth allies. We are determined to assure our allies immediate success by making certain that all essential personnel now controlled by Earth's last cabal are quickly captured. These quick incursions into the cabal's camp will allow our Earth allies to attain their initial objectives silently and swiftly. With the cabal's leaders under arrest, some major and indisputably positive world changes can be formally announced. Once peace is declared, we will supervise the rapid disengagement of all warring parties....





Disclosures will also make possible the public proclamation of our existence by the new provisional governments. Moreover, they will be able to introduce our planned 'pre-first contact' broadcasts. Initially, these series of transmissions will clarify our role in these events and prepare Mother Earth's peoples for 'First Contact'....





Our vehicles are living, organic Beings, equipped with highly advanced organic computers that are enlarged reproductions of our brains. A ship has the capacity to interconnect with us on all levels. There are long range working networks that are built into each ship, there is a smaller range network that telepathically connects all crew members to the ship. As you board one of our craft, you are immediately 'plugged' in to this network, which comprehensively monitors all of your body functions, thought processes and emotional states of each individual on board. This wondrous piece of technology will appear to you as a living, highly intelligent Being. One of the major abilities of this technology is interstellar travel. We can adjust a ship's frequency in order to move it from star to star. These 'jumps' from one solar system to another, occur because of the way physicality is constructed....



Originating from scout ships or large Mother Ships, we will reveal through radio, T.V. and computer networks, the true picture of the world's history, also of conspiracies to deny you a cache of technology. Broadcasts will explain how people of the Inner Earth have looked after you. They have prepared an almost endless array of enclaves for you, Eden-like realms where you will complete your mutation into fully conscious Beings. The special places built for you are fully operational and waiting. Mass landings will be delayed until the time arrives to deliver you to your new temporary homes, in Inner Earth. Heaven has set aside a period from mere weeks to almost 14 months to serve as a transition....





We have come from all sectors of this galaxy – also from many nearby galaxies, and vast Orders and Life-Streams of Heaven. We will start producing your Galactic Society, and you will be able to travel anywhere throughout this immense universe. Soon, you will move closer to Sirius and take your place in its multi-star system. In the year 2013, it is your destiny to join the Lion Beings of Sirius 'A' and the human galactic societies of Sirius 'B' and 'C'. In a short time, Mars will bloom once more, Venus; land of abundant oceans will teem with life. Maldek will re-emerge, and the innermost planet astronomers have named Vulcan. The Moon will become your new near-Earth 'Space Station'. You will become as familiar with Mars as you are now with your precious Mother Earth....





Harmony and a level of global co-operation never seen before on your world will become the normal. A new system will be established that will enable you to transform the operation of your world. The Ascended Master in charge of this operation, is the Comte de Sainte Germaine. Global prosperity will have arrived and a new galactic society will be born. Your reality is in the midst of a process that is changing it forever. Underlying your present transformation, is creation of a new, fully conscious reality. Past, present and future will become one. The need to be limited, or dwell with the dark will have ended. Every collective consciousness reality, shifts only when it attains proper critical mass. When this occurs, your reality as a whole will transmute. Mother Earth on which you dwell, along with all of her inhabitants, will shift together. You will move into a state of full consciousness, and full membership in the Galactic Federation of Light. You will fulfil sacred prophecy and meet your galactic family. The new realm will be founded upon provision of the conditions that will support you in creation of your new Galactic Society. Masters Saint Germaine and Hilarion, as well as El Morya and many other Masters, intend to oversee the formation of your Galactic Society....





SUMMARY OF SHELDAN NIDLE'S MESSAGES



For Zarkov....read it and ROTFLYAO!
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Zarkov
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.read it


negative
tikay
Okey~dokey...no skin off my arse.
Will you answer some of my questions then?


http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...ndpost&p=362028
Zarkov
ok see link
magpies
If sanity is a perfect thought...

I must say I dont think iv had one of thouse within my life.
But thats not to say I didnt start with one.
Perhaps by the end or hopefully before life ends I will know of a perfect thought again?
Zarkov


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I dont think iv had one of thouse within my life.


unfortunately, beyond your control, your fate was sealed by the sperm and the egg, and the womb environment.... and then your childhood environment..food air water etc

now it is in your control, if you have any real control.

you can be made "better", but not as you would have been given perfect knowledge by your parents, and their's etc..... way back until the environment was actually clean, unpolluted.

To be made "better" one must remove and prevent further intake of bio-toxics....

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I dont think iv had one of thouse within my life.


unfortunately, beyond your control, your fate was sealed by the sperm and the egg, and the womb environment.... and then your childhood environment..food air water etc

now it is in your control, if you have any real control.

you can be made "better", but not as you would have been given perfect knowledge by your parents, and their's etc..... way back until the environment was actually clean, unpolluted.

To be made "better" one must remove and prevent further intake of bio-toxics....

If sanity is (a) perfect thought...


Thank you, I do like that definition.
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magpies
Or I could evolve to be perfectly in harmony in a polluted enviorment...

There are reasons I dont use AC during the summer or much Heat during the winter... There are reasons I drink city water even tho I know its polluted as hell. There are reasons why my crazyness isnt in fashion smile.gif
Zarkov
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I could evolve to be perfectly in harmony in a polluted enviorment...



LOL, not even remotely probable..... but good luck, work with what you have and do your best !

make sure your children are better !

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magpies
To the relief of this threads readers I do not plan on having any babies.... But I do intend on adopting the world as my children lol.
magpies
I came up with a better thought then I had before...

How much pressure can a sain mind take before it goes totaly insane?

How much pressure can a sain society take before it goes totaly crazy?
Zarkov
? todays pressure ?

ever speeding up and confining......
magpies
Well iv learned the hard way how to handle pressure... But I def know better then to just take it. You push I push back.
Zarkov
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/01/2321978.htm

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A senior United States Government scientist who helped investigate a series of deadly anthrax attacks in 2001 has died from an apparent suicide, just as the Justice Department was about to charge him with carrying out the attacks.

The Los Angeles Times identified the man as Bruce Ivins, 62, and said he had worked for the last 18 years at Government bio-defence research laboratories in Maryland.

It quoted people familiar with Ivins, his suspicious death and the FBI investigation.

It said Ivins had been informed of his impending prosecution shortly before his death on Tuesday (local time) after swallowing a massive dose of pain killers.

The anthrax was sent through the mail to media organisations and politicians shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks.

The attacks killed five people, crippled national mail service, shut down a Senate office building and spread fear of further terrorism.

Viewed as a skilled microbiologist, Ivins helped the FBI analyse materials recovered from one of the anthrax-tainted envelopes sent to a US senator's office in Washington, the newspaper said.


sane or insane ?

a taste of your own medicine ?????
magpies
Yeah taste like the abilify im taking for my "mental illness"
Zarkov
PhysOrg has been wonderful lately in supplying material

http://www.physorg.com/news138372303.html



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Chronic lead poisoning, caused in part by the ingestion of contaminated dirt, affects hundreds of thousands more children in the United States than the acute lead poisoning associated with imported toys or jewelry.

According to 2007 U.S. Census Bureau data, there are approximately 20 million children below the age of five in the United States, the age range of greatest susceptibility to the harmful affects of lead poisoning. Filippelli notes that about 2 percent of these children (approximately 400,000) have lead poisoning, many in epidemic proportions.

While acute lead poisoning from toys and direct ingestion of interior paint has received more publicity, these cases account for only a portion of children with lead poisoning. Many health officials are increasingly concerned with chronic lead poisoning, which occurs at lower levels of lead in the blood and are harder to diagnose. Babies and young children may develop chronic lead poisoning when playing in dirt yards or playgrounds or in areas with blowing dry soil tainted with the lead, which is ubiquitous in older urban areas.

"These national numbers for chronic lead poisoning are staggering but the percentage of affected children in older urban areas is much much higher than in rural areas or newer cities. The blowing soil and dust young children ingest contains large amount of lead from lead paint and leaded gasoline deposited decades ago, and from industrial contamination. In Indianapolis, we found high levels of soil contamination. Many older urban centers, have lead poisoning rates that are 5 to10 times the national average." said Filippelli, who is a biogeochemist studying environmental contamination of heavy metals and its effects on children's health.

Young children, especially those who crawl, put objects in their mouth, eat dirt, or are exposed to blowing dirt, and can consume a significant amount of lead. Children's developing digestive systems are very susceptible to lead poisoning. To a child's body, lead looks like calcium because they both have same ionic charge and size. As their neurons develop, the nervous system tries to use lead in place of calcium and the child's neural systems fail to form correctly. This impairs neural function leading to irreversibly decreased IQ and increased attention deficient issues.

Chelation, which purges lead from the body, is used to treat acute lead poisoning but is much less effective in chronic lead poisoning.



This problem can not be addressed by short term measures... it is toooooobig for anyone

Earthlings have irreversibly polluted their environment... as if they have had a nuclear war

This article has found the smoking gun.....but failed to highlight that ALL this world's citizens are toxic.... some more so than others....

implications ?????



And now for all the SMOKERS

http://www.physorg.com/news138381051.html

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Chronic lead poisoning, caused in part by the ingestion of contaminated dirt, affects hundreds of thousands more children in the United States than the acute lead poisoning associated with imported toys or jewelry.

According to 2007 U.S. Census Bureau data, there are approximately 20 million children below the age of five in the United States, the age range of greatest susceptibility to the harmful affects of lead poisoning. Filippelli notes that about 2 percent of these children (approximately 400,000) have lead poisoning, many in epidemic proportions.

While acute lead poisoning from toys and direct ingestion of interior paint has received more publicity, these cases account for only a portion of children with lead poisoning. Many health officials are increasingly concerned with chronic lead poisoning, which occurs at lower levels of lead in the blood and are harder to diagnose. Babies and young children may develop chronic lead poisoning when playing in dirt yards or playgrounds or in areas with blowing dry soil tainted with the lead, which is ubiquitous in older urban areas.

"These national numbers for chronic lead poisoning are staggering but the percentage of affected children in older urban areas is much much higher than in rural areas or newer cities. The blowing soil and dust young children ingest contains large amount of lead from lead paint and leaded gasoline deposited decades ago, and from industrial contamination. In Indianapolis, we found high levels of soil contamination. Many older urban centers, have lead poisoning rates that are 5 to10 times the national average." said Filippelli, who is a biogeochemist studying environmental contamination of heavy metals and its effects on children's health.

Young children, especially those who crawl, put objects in their mouth, eat dirt, or are exposed to blowing dirt, and can consume a significant amount of lead. Children's developing digestive systems are very susceptible to lead poisoning. To a child's body, lead looks like calcium because they both have same ionic charge and size. As their neurons develop, the nervous system tries to use lead in place of calcium and the child's neural systems fail to form correctly. This impairs neural function leading to irreversibly decreased IQ and increased attention deficient issues.

Chelation, which purges lead from the body, is used to treat acute lead poisoning but is much less effective in chronic lead poisoning.



This problem can not be addressed by short term measures... it is toooooobig for anyone

Earthlings have irreversibly polluted their environment... as if they have had a nuclear war

This article has found the smoking gun.....but failed to highlight that ALL this world's citizens are toxic.... some more so than others....

implications ?????



And now for all the SMOKERS

http://www.physorg.com/news138381051.html

New research suggests that cadmium is one of the critical ingredients causing emphysema, and even low-level exposure attained through second-hand smoke and other means may also increase the chance of developing lung disease.

The University of Michigan School of Public Health study suggests that higher cadmium levels in the body as much as double the risk of developing a pulmonary disease diagnosis such as emphysema or chronic bronchitis.

Though some studies have linked high levels of cadmium with decreased lung function in occupationally exposed workers, this is only the second known study to show that subjects with even slightly increased levels of cadmium had decreased lung function and the first known study to do so using repeated measures of lung function over time.

"The study suggests that the critical ingredient in smoking that may be causing emphysema is cadmium, a well-known contaminant of cigarette smoke," said Howard Hu, professor at the U-M School of Public Health and principal investigator in the study. "The worry is if you are exposed to this (cadmium) through other sources you can also be at risk for emphysema."

Non-smokers are exposed to cadmium when they eat contaminated foods or inhale second-hand smoke, as well as through a host of occupational exposures. Cadmium is a metal that is difficult for the body to dispel, Hu said, because kidneys tend to retain cadmium, and it recycles into the body.

Cadmium has received its share of media attention, and some consumer groups are concerned about cadmium in sludge and crop fertilizers. It is also widely used in batteries and pigments.

"The big picture is, we keep learning more about the contributions of environmental toxins to the chronic diseases of aging for which we never suspected an environmental cause," said Hu, who is also chair of the School of Public Health Department of Environmental Health Sciences and has an appointment with the Medical School.




Lead and cadmium... mercury and arsenic, copper and thallium...plutonium and uranium
manganese and selenium........... neverending list.... and all invisible..insidious bio-accumulatables and y'all have a body full...a BRAIN full

and of course you don't care

madness knows no fear nor consequence
wcelliott
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Lead and cadmium... mercury and arsenic, copper and thallium...plutonium and uranium
manganese and selenium........... neverending list.... and all invisible..insidious bio-accumulatables and y'all have a body full...a BRAIN full


And yet, our average life expectancy keeps increasing.

Weird, huh?
TheresaS
Is there really a good definition of sanity?

I just left an office job that I'd held for two years. Someone said, "I'm really going to miss you. You are the only normal person in that department."

Which led me to wonder what "normal" really is - how do we define it? The same convoluted way we define sanity, I suppose. We can only use our own experiences as a basis for judgment.

Are you sane? If so, what makes you sane?
Zarkov
Thanks for your sanity, TheresaS

I will list some of the characteristics of sanity

# respect for other living creatures...including earthlings

# co-operation towards the Socratic good

# being devoid of mistrust, envy and jealousy..all the five deadly "sins" ... in a sane world these emotions would not be elucidated

# feeling love to all around you

# being grateful rather than expecting

# brotherhood and sisterhood as LIFE's oneness in all... I M U ....... U R I

There are many more displayed traits that no one today would recognise, or display except maybe to a new loved one, or their new child... but that attitude usually does not last long.

Basically, sanity is a unique condition... you are sane or you are not... there are no intermediates.

Displayed Sanity is due to a one-to-one direct communication to the innate clear common conscience that resides in all life forms. The conscience is designed (in foresight from the beginning) to ensure that all life forms co-exist and strive together towards the common final goal of LIFE......seeding

Socrates mused that the conscience could not be corrupted.... unfortunately he was very wrong. Pollution in many guises, especially toxic/excess metals once imbibed can totally corrupt the direct access to the conscience, turning the afflicted/intoxicated inwards.. to become totally selfish and therefore malignant to LIFE itself. Justification becoming the tool evoked to absolve "evil" = actions against LIFE

Many young women, because of mensuration and childbirth (they off-load their toxic load), are relatively "sane", but many more are not.

Very few western males today are even remotely sane..... they have no intrinsic way of removing their toxic load.

Unfortunately ( however, this is the way it was planned to be from the beginning of time), babies born of toxic mothers conceived through toxic fathers are irrevocably toxic to LIFE... neural pathway disruption... thus alas, pathetic earthlings, your doom is nigh.

This latter condition ensures the madness of mating and therefore of LIFE's seeding.

LIFE on this rock has come full circle and seeding has begun.

see Doctrine of No Words
http://www.omegafour.com/forum2/viewforum....75b0a537b491532

Thank you TheresaS, I do suggest if you wish to remain sane, do not visit this forum... or any other for that matter, because the madness is ubiquitous and infectious.... remain your beautiful self, and do not associate with intoxicated people.

goodluck smile.gif


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Just read this... agreat example of western decadence... but y''all think your society is great... well some reasonably sane people think otherwise..
The Last Final Battle, between the sane and the insane!!!!! = the madness of seeding LOL

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7613575.stm

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The most senior judge in Saudi Arabia has said it is permissible to kill the owners of satellite TV channels which broadcast immoral programmes.

Sheikh Salih Ibn al-Luhaydan said some "evil" entertainment programmes aired by the channels promoted debauchery.

"There is no doubt that these programmes are a great evil, and the owners of these channels are as guilty as those who watch them," said the sheikh.

"It is legitimate to kill those who call for corruption if their evil can not be stopped by other penalties."


aggression, intimidation, scamming, debauchery...etc all under the guise of entertainment...even for children.. great models to live by... NOT

EVIL knows no limits of corruption... LOL

Unfortunately madness is ubiquitous and no amount of remediation can prevent the end

LIFE welcomes your demise, long life LIFE

you die but LIFE never dies
NEONOM
QUOTE (Zarkov+Sep 14 2008, 08:47 AM)

Very few western males today are even remotely sane..... they have no intrinsic way of removing their toxic load.


I disagree. You've just unloaded yours. dry.gif
yor_on
Sanity?
To be cool and laid back.
To be able to feel compassion and empathy.
To understand that we all are one.

To see that too much ego just fuc*s you up.
Like a second chance of growing up :)
The right way.
Zarkov
good call yor_on

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Zarkov
LOL.. this forum is running scared...LOL
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