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yor_on
Seeing how some have come together to 'discipline' those not 'fitting' to exchange views on this forum and also seeing their followers behavior as they try to please.
I have this suggestion, why not write directly to those that is 'moderating' this soon to be piece of sh** informing them of your superior standards.
Instead of filling the 'feedback section with 'negs' for those you don't like and 'pos' to your posterior lapping companions.

What you are doing here seems to me as acts of demagogy and cowardice.
And the more posterior lapping I see the sadder this place is becoming.
Are you getting paid to destroy it?

Some of you used to have minds of your own before, those are to my eyes the saddest examples.
Anyway, instead of your f*ng negs to all whose views bother you, take it up with the Mods and/or owners and 'instruct' them on how you want this sorry piece of ** to be.
Because seeing human jackals running in packs destroying what once was a great site makes me sad.

And to those of you that hide in fear of negs, stop being here, there are other places to be.
Sh* If you can't express yourself freely without hyenas attacking your back, why bother.
Human locust to my view. Nothing to do with physics, just immature assholes.



Ron
Hi Yor_on,
I gave you this feedback back when I felt things were getting bad (Oct. 07)
"Yet another good hearted, humble yet knowledgeable contributor. You're helping to bring more credibility back to this site. Keep it up bro."
That still holds. Don't let'em get ya down. I don't know what set you off, but there are alot of members here.
Just to go back to why were all here(I'd like to think), I'm in the process of reading
"Relativity: The Special and General Theory" (115 pages) written by Albert Einstein himself back in 1916 to try to explain his theories to the layman.
I've read some of his papers, but I'm really impressed with his humble interpretation of his own work. I'm no physicist, but I enjoy reading about it. He wrote this for people like me.
If you can't find a place to download it off the web and want to, let me know.
Peace,
Ron
dawn
wink.gif yor_on, & Ron,

Look at the first neg I received, I do not recall the reason, not sure there was one it was just words of no consequence. This is a very relaxed, not supervised, or under constant observation type of site, so unfortunately, you will have to deal with the nuisance just do not succumb to the remarks.

“Many of the great achievements of the world were accomplished by tired and discouraged men who kept on working.”

I think you both will sail out the storm here, best of luck to you both. wub.gif

dawn
BigDumbWeirdo
While there are some members who give negative feedback based on trivialities such as what other member has given this person negative feedback and what non-scientific matters they disagree with the person in question on, the vast vast majority of the members here (including the cranks) give feedback based on an honest assesment of the other party's contributions to this forum.

Consider this, you say that the people giving negative feedback are ruining the site, but do you realize that many of them are active on other physics forums, in which they don't engage in the same behavior? Physicsforum.com is one such site.
The reason they don't engage in that behavior there is because people who show up making pseduo-scientific claims get booted by the mods. Physorg is unique in that it allows anything to be represented as anything. It's not so much devoted to discussion of physics as it is devoted to discussion of physics news.
Quite a lot of that happens here. xtrmin8r is a great example. He posts a new thread about once a week or more about an article from the main site, or some other science reporting site. Many people comment on those and discuss them, too. But when people like Zarkov or Farsight show up in these threads claiming that the scientists in question don't know what they're talking about, or that their own pet theories explain things better than existing theories without offering any proof of this claim, they find themselves under attack by the skeptical members of this site.
In short, it's not personalities or even crank theories that get attacked, it's baseless claims. Unfortunately, there will be some "civilian casualties" when this happens. That's the sad fact. I saw in your own feedback where trout negged you for posting what -on first glance- appeared to be a drastic misunderstanding of physics, and asked people to explain it to you. But notice also that the attack did not continue once you clarified yourself. When I read that link, I immediately thought "virtual particles" although that was because I had a strong feeling that you were not posting crank science. If I had viewed it with the proper skepticism and objectivity, I would have come to the same conclusion as those who attacked you over it. It wasn't that you pissed anyone off, it was that you seemed to be accepting baseless and erroneous claims about physics. Once you showed that you were actually referring to real physics, the attack ended.
Derek1148
QUOTE (yor_on+May 15 2008, 06:41 AM)
Because seeing human jackals running in packs destroying what once was a great site makes me sad.

I disagree with you and I believe you are being totally unfair. There is a certain nobility to jackals. Maggots would have been a far more accurate analogy.
"THEY"
QUOTE (yor_on+May 14 2008, 11:41 PM)
What you are doing here seems to me as acts of demagogy and cowardice.
And the more posterior lapping I see the sadder this place is becoming.
....
Human locust to my view. Nothing to do with physics, just immature assholes.

biggrin.gif

I dream of a day that this place can be moderated ACTIVELY and return to its normal state. But I fear that dream is merely a dream........ blink.gif

Dawn, it appears you only have negs from one person. Those negs are a mere reflection of the intelligence of that person.
Confused2
I see that person has been awarded a PhD by the 'forum mafia'. I really can't do the ROFLMAO thing .. a little snigger is about as far as I ever go.
Sapo
C2, what are you talking about? Which person?

I wonder if your handle shouldn't be Confuse-them-all, too... tongue.gif
yor_on
BDW I can see how you think but to me it's not necessary to diminish others. Their views may clash ever so much with mine but I refuse to gang up on them. Mark
Twain once wrote, ‘Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great ones make you feel that you too, can be great.’ ”

PhysOrg is as far as I know no warzone :)

(ahh, yet:)
TheDoc
QUOTE (yor_on+)
And the more posterior lapping I see the sadder this place is becoming.
Are you getting paid to destroy it?


The exact same thing can be said of you and your little 'club' over in Quantum Physics.

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Because seeing human jackals running in packs destroying what once was a great site makes me sad.


From the older stuff I've read, PhysOrg was a great site. But when idiots like Farsight, bukh, Ivars, StevenA, Zephir, dawn and dizamin started to run around saying that they debunked String Theory, or that they knew better than the experts, or that they were actually on to something, PhysOrg began to decline. Look at Zarkov - he claims to have an incredibly accurate math formula. Why doesn't he post it, then? Because he can't.

PhysOrg is plagued by idiots like Zarkov. They boast and boast and boast, but in the end they can't prove even one of their claims correct.

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Because seeing human jackals running in packs destroying what once was a great site makes me sad.


From the older stuff I've read, PhysOrg was a great site. But when idiots like Farsight, bukh, Ivars, StevenA, Zephir, dawn and dizamin started to run around saying that they debunked String Theory, or that they knew better than the experts, or that they were actually on to something, PhysOrg began to decline. Look at Zarkov - he claims to have an incredibly accurate math formula. Why doesn't he post it, then? Because he can't.

PhysOrg is plagued by idiots like Zarkov. They boast and boast and boast, but in the end they can't prove even one of their claims correct.

Human locust to my view. Nothing to do with physics, just immature assholes.


Really? And what about this post? Is this your definition of mature?

QUOTE (dawn+)
Look at the first neg I received, I do not recall the reason, not sure there was one it was just words of no consequence. This is a very relaxed, not supervised, or under constant observation type of site, so unfortunately, you will have to deal with the nuisance just do not succumb to the remarks.


Just being as much of a nuisance to you as your sockpuppets friends have been to me, my sweet. smile.gif

QUOTE (maybe in my feedback+ Apr 10, 2008)

# He faked his way into becoming a who understood physic in the PHYSORG Forums during the Idiot era.
# He doctored credentials and bamboozled interviewers so that he became a guidance counselor in an open FORUM.
# With a phony High School diploma he taught applied psychology ont a Physic Forum.
# The list doesn't end there. He was also civil engineer, sheriff's deputy, assistant prison warden, hospital orderly, lawyer, child-care expert, and Trappist monk, editor, cancer researcher. These are only some of his roles, but the understanding of physics he CANNOT FAKE.


QUOTE (darkmatters73 in my feedback+ Apr 12, 2008)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." But I think it is you, thedoc. smile.gif
-Albert Einstein



QUOTE ("THEY"+)
Dawn, it appears you only have negs from one person. Those negs are a mere reflection of the intelligence of that person.


I'm flattered.
rethinker
It is pretty sad when a Doc brings sickness into the room.

I actually wanted to announce my discovery on this forum.
However seeing the crap like TheDoc is allowed to do, reveals the true nature of how the forum mods want to go in.

I think TheDoc is part of the clean up crew asked to go in and kill.

Yes he indeed must be getting a little something in the mail every week.

Who knows, maybe something will change.

Who the hl runs this anyway?

Most likely the forum part will end and much of the good science and discussions will be archived away in someones personal safety box.
Derek1148
QUOTE (rethinker+May 16 2008, 04:54 AM)
It is pretty sad when a Doc brings sickness into the room.

I actually wanted to announce my discovery on this forum.
However seeing the crap like TheDoc is allowed to do, reveals the true nature of how the forum mods want to go in.

I think TheDoc is part of the clean up crew asked to go in and kill.

Yes he indeed must be getting a little something in the mail every week.

Who knows, maybe something will change.

Who the hl runs this anyway?
 
Most likely the forum part will end and much of the good science and discussions will be archived away in someones personal safety box.

rethinker,

You simply don’t understand the way it works. Imagine individuals who ever had any power in their lives. Never played sports. No success with girls. And all of a sudden they have power. They can use negative feedback to make any derogatory comment that comes to their minds. (Comments and statements that made in a pub might result in the necessity for dental care.)

Just like in life, look at the positive aspects of this forum. There are some individuals here who are knowledgeable in math and physics. And some of the posts are interesting.
Sandra doliak
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 16 2008, 08:41 AM)
...And some of the posts are interesting....

Going going...

Almost banned....


Sandra
Derek1148
QUOTE (Sandra doliak+May 16 2008, 08:44 AM)
Going going...

Almost banned....


Sandra

Hey Sandra,

I still have two warnings left.

Derek
Sandra doliak
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 16 2008, 08:47 AM)
Hey Sandra,

I still have two warnings left.

Derek

CAN SOMBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHY I WROTE "ALMOST" BANNED?
vkamath
I am actually glad that this forum is not actively moderated. This gives more freedom to discuss all sorts of ideas. Just be prepared to face the consequences of what you post, because there are multiple factors at play here

1) There is a lot of scope for miscommunication. People often have problems communicating face to face and this is only an Internet forum.

2) There are all kinds of people here - Highly educated and mature, Highly educated but immature, Not so highly educated but really smart, Not so educated and totally dumb and lastly the crazies biggrin.gif
So there is no telling how your post will be received.

3) There are different kinds of motivations for people to be here. Some are here to read interesting posts from the smart people out here. Some are actually physicists exchanging ideas. Some are here to see what people's reactions are to their crank theories. Some are here simply to get rid of their boredom or for a sense of community that they lack in their real lives. Some get a power trip by yelling at other people. Some are out to set the world straight and this is a place for them to vent.
yor_on
I thought this was a place for all interested in physics.
At least it was that when I first arrived here.

Since then it changed.
And those of you that is sort of new have probably difficulties understanding what i mean:)
You others should know :)
As for what kind of people that post here nowadays vkamath?
Well :)

Let's just say that I have high expectations.
This should be a forum where everyone is allowed speech.
There are ways to correct misunderstandings without ridicule.
And without maliciousness.
As those Negs shows (not:).

There is a danger when trying to press people into pre-labeled boxes vkamath.
It makes one think that one know something which evidently one can't have the slightest knowledge of.
A little like the Nazis love for phrenology as the foolproof way of telling what type of human you was.
Ah, it wasn't only them believing in that BS by the way.
But I do agree on your choice of 'immature' though.

I used to get cool responses before even to my more far fetched ideas.
Nowadays there are no responses at all :)

Should that impress me?
Here?
Nah.
soundhertz
yor on, all I can say is, it's not worth it. It's a wide open forum. This is the Wild West here. Everyone is allowed to carry a gun, whether they ever draw it or not. Some like shooting it because they can, some prefer drawing it on the open forum, where everyone including guests (the great majority here) can read, some prefer the gentleman's back room chamber filled with the smell of old farts and cigars.

Like BDW said, it's used legitimately by most. The ability to continuously rate the same person is what skews the look. If there was a limit to how many times one could rate a person - say 4 times - you could present a composite view, eg you really are disgusted by a poster's incorrect quantum spewings, but you see some redeeming factors in another area. But the baby sometimes gets thrown out with the bath water here, and you have to realize that some posters just enjoy throwing cyberdarts because they know you can't be hurt by them unless you DECIDE to, which then makes the laughing dart-thrower an important and influential person in YOUR life, an absolutely ridiculous and undercutting self-made decision.

The only thing I object to is the graphic use of the disadvantaged to drive home povs in needless puerile fashion. Unlike attacked posters here who also have a gun if they feel offended, the depicted unfortunates don't. We tried to get rid of those images; the mods rejected this, probably because there are more members here who support keeping the images. Case over. I just hope none of those unfortunates ever discover their 'celebrity' here.
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Maggots would have been a far more accurate analogy.

Now wait just a minute. Maggots don't make things stinky, maggots clean stinky things up. huh.gif smile.gif
vkamath
QUOTE (yor_on+)
Let's just say that I have high expectations.


Don't

QUOTE (yor_on+)
There is a danger when trying to press people into pre-labeled boxes vkamath.
It makes one think that one know something which evidently one can't have the slightest knowledge of.
A little like the Nazis love for phrenology as the foolproof way of telling what type of human you was.
Ah, it wasn't only them believing in that BS by the way.


Nazis? You are taking my statements totally out of context.
Agent X20
yor_on is a completely sad mor0n, whose had his little comfortable bubble burst (boo hoo) whatta-shame - of all the Swede's I ever encountered - he's truly is the most unfathomably idiotic!

sad.gif

p.s; most probably of some immigrant extraction.
Gorgeous
QUOTE (soundhertz+May 16 2008, 05:06 PM)
...some prefer the gentleman's back room chamber filled with the smell of old farts and cigars.


I am constantly in awe of the kind of insights that can be gained from this forum!

laugh.gif



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Sandra doliak
I prefer the cigars. But not the methane contained gas.
Ron
QUOTE (Gorgeous+May 16 2008, 06:28 PM)
I am constantly in awe of the kind of insights that can be gained from this forum!

laugh.gif



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I am constantly in awe of the kind of insights that can be gained from the back room of cigar store!
Peace,
Ron
TheDoc
QUOTE (rethinker+)
I actually wanted to announce my discovery on this forum.
However seeing the crap like TheDoc is allowed to do


I notice that you only accuse me of this after I point out what you and your ilk are allowed to do here.

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I think TheDoc is part of the clean up crew asked to go in and kill.

Yes he indeed must be getting a little something in the mail every week.


You accuse me of posting junk and then you go and type that up. Good one.

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I think TheDoc is part of the clean up crew asked to go in and kill.

Yes he indeed must be getting a little something in the mail every week.


You accuse me of posting junk and then you go and type that up. Good one.

As for what kind of people that post here nowadays vkamath?
Well smile.gif


I noticed that you gleefully ignored my example of just how 'mature' your friends can be.

Do I need to repost it for you?

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This should be a forum where everyone is allowed speech.


Don't go saying that we've obstructed people's freedom of speech. We haven't.

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This should be a forum where everyone is allowed speech.


Don't go saying that we've obstructed people's freedom of speech. We haven't.

There are ways to correct misunderstandings without ridicule.
And without maliciousness.


How many times do I have to explain this? Sure, we can correct misunderstandings without ridicule. It's been done in the past. But when idiots like Farsight, or StevenA, or Zarkov assert without proof that they are absolutely right, despite IGNORING DIRECT EVIDENCE AGAINST THEIR CLAIMS, ridicule and criticism is justified.

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A little like the Nazis love for phrenology as the foolproof way of telling what type of human you was.


Comparing us to Nazis now, eh?

Yeah. Good one rolleyes.gif
Gorgeous
QUOTE (Ron+May 17 2008, 03:30 AM)
I am constantly in awe of the kind of insights that can be gained from the back room of cigar store!
Peace,
Ron

You sure we're not talking about the same thing? unsure.gif


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rethinker


Say nothing, act casual Use words like (us) and they will have to guess.
wink.gif
yor_on
I read a lot of BS here..
How about this :)

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" yor_on is a completely sad mor0n, whose had his little comfortable bubble burst (boo hoo) whatta-shame - of all the Swede's I ever encountered - he's truly is the most unfathomably idiotic!

sad.gif

p.s; most probably of some immigrant extraction "
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One of the posterior inclined I presume::))
Agent :) X20 :)
You're sure you're on the right forum?
Maybe Mile High Comics is what you're looking for?

And I haven't checked, but whom might you admirers be then?
In that beloved feedback section of yours :)
A little more lapping and I'm sure you can fill it up

Defending this place by comparing it to Wild West soundhertz :)
You're sh*ing me here, right?
Come on, it's supposed to be an open physics site..

And as for the presumption that some of you have some innate right to be here more than others?
Come on, it's supposed to be an open physics site..

As I said, if you feel I'm wrong take it up with those that holds this site.
Don't play cyber vigilantes hiding under several alias.

I don't give a Sh* about this feedback section any more.
It used to be fun to read but now it's definitely gone out of control.
Take it away. That section contributes only further malicious childishness.

If you don't know what I mean take a look on those poor bastards that constantly are under attack here.
Some of you seems to like playing Judge, Jury and executer a little to much here.

Or am I defending something that don't need defending here?
I mean, I might be under the misconception that this is an open friendly place for debate and ideas about physics.
Maybe it's just another kindergarten filled with rampant kids?
All screaming 'mine' :)
orestis
QUOTE (Agent X20+May 16 2008, 02:18 PM)

p.s; most probably of some immigrant extraction.




How about elaborating on this. I'm really curious about what you mean.
TheDoc
QUOTE (yor_on+)
I read a lot of BS here
How about this smile.gif


Hey, so do I! How about this:

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A little like the Nazis love for phrenology as the foolproof way of telling what type of human you was.


rolleyes.gif

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A little like the Nazis love for phrenology as the foolproof way of telling what type of human you was.


rolleyes.gif


And as for the presumption that some of you have some innate right to be here more than others?


We've never stated or implied that we've have 'an innate right to be here more than others', you liar.

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As I said, if you feel I'm wrong take it up with those that holds this site.


You poser idiot. Why can't you answer my question? Come on, do it. Answer the question, once and for all: Is this post by paradox42 your definiton of 'mature'?


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As I said, if you feel I'm wrong take it up with those that holds this site.


You poser idiot. Why can't you answer my question? Come on, do it. Answer the question, once and for all: Is this post by paradox42 your definiton of 'mature'?


Don't play cyber vigilantes hiding under several alias.


Don't pretend to be 'free thinkers' when you're posting idiotic pseudoscience.

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I don't give a Sh* about this feedback section any more.


Liar. If you didn't, you wouldn't have started this thread.

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I don't give a Sh* about this feedback section any more.


Liar. If you didn't, you wouldn't have started this thread.

Take it away. That section contributes only further malicious childishness.


Garbage. The feedback system works.

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If you don't know what I mean take a look on those poor bastards that constantly are under attack here.


In almost every case the negatives are deserved. Zarkov is a lying, hypocritical, delusional idiot. He refuses to admit when he's wrong. He hurls accusations of stalking and slander. He ignores evidence against his ideas. If he actually bothers to post something semi-coherent, and then back it up, these 'attacks' will stop. The same holds true for Farsight, and StevenA, and Lawrence, and dawn, and Good Elf, and Inkaat, and dizamin...

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If you don't know what I mean take a look on those poor bastards that constantly are under attack here.


In almost every case the negatives are deserved. Zarkov is a lying, hypocritical, delusional idiot. He refuses to admit when he's wrong. He hurls accusations of stalking and slander. He ignores evidence against his ideas. If he actually bothers to post something semi-coherent, and then back it up, these 'attacks' will stop. The same holds true for Farsight, and StevenA, and Lawrence, and dawn, and Good Elf, and Inkaat, and dizamin...

Some of you seems to like playing Judge, Jury and executer a little to much here.


And you're not? rolleyes.gif
Gorgeous
Some REAL 'poor bastards'...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7406506.stm



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Agent X20
QUOTE (Gorgeous+May 17 2008, 06:10 PM)
Some REAL 'poor bastards'...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7406506.stm



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Pretty grim reality-check there g! sad.gif
Agent X20
QUOTE (orestis+May 17 2008, 04:16 PM)



How about elaborating on this. I'm really curious about what you mean.

Sure, Swedes totally pride themselves with 1st-class education and stuff - mor_on seems to have escaped this somehow, therefore I conclude he's a newcomer from some godforsaken 3rd world peasant ignoramus-hole.

smile.gif
Gorgeous
QUOTE (Agent X20+May 17 2008, 06:50 PM)
Pretty grim reality-check there g!  sad.gif

Yeah, sorry about that. Just reminding us all how lucky we are to be spamming physics forums with our trivial drippings! wink.gif



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Agent X20
QUOTE (Gorgeous+May 17 2008, 07:12 PM)
Yeah, sorry about that. Just reminding us all how lucky we are to be spamming physics forums with our trivial drippings! wink.gif



g.

Quite! sad.gif
Confused2
Recent contributions from Fivedoughnut (banned a while back) include:-

"[taking the piss]I much prefer buckyball numbers and their cosmic relevance to the golden number divided by 3/4^5 pi.[/taking the piss]"

"So emperor Bozoid, you think the Earth's a fracking black hole ????? - I'm phenominally fed up with your stinky brown one."

His feedback shows this activity is greatly appreciated by the usual bunch AND Gorgeous! Has Gorgeous gone over to the Dark Side? Are penguins secretly taking flying lessons? Is the Easter Bunny REALLY dead?

-C2.
Agent X20
QUOTE (Confused2+May 17 2008, 08:31 PM)
Recent contributions from Fivedoughnut (banned a while back) include:-

"[taking the piss]I much prefer buckyball numbers and their cosmic relevance to the golden number divided by 3/4^5 pi.[/taking the piss]"

"So emperor Bozoid, you think the Earth's a fracking black hole ????? - I'm phenominally fed up with your stinky brown one."

His feedback shows this activity is greatly appreciated by the usual bunch AND Gorgeous! Has Gorgeous gone over to the Dark Side? Are penguins secretly taking flying lessons? Is the Easter Bunny REALLY dead?

-C2.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif - actually you're not so bad - but I'm gonna have fun slaughtering you dirtbreath.

smile.gif
yor_on
That was most impressive Georgeous.
As your friends responses too :)

As I was discussing peoples behavior here though, Instead of earthquakes In China, I'm not entirely sure what that has to do with it?

Also I would like to point out that there are some responses that I find puzzling.
Yours was one and then we have.

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Sure, Swedes totally pride themselves with 1st-class education and stuff - mor_on seems to have escaped this somehow, therefore I conclude he's a newcomer from some godforsaken 3rd world peasant ignoramus-hole.
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Wow :)

Kind of awe inspiring to read this.
An up and coming physicist I presume?
As soon he's out of? Kindergarten?

As I said, get rid of that feedback section, if you 'eggperts' so desperately need to make yourself heard do it here and now :)
and If you want to defend your right to treat others like sh* do it in plain language.

As for our new/old not to good friend the Doc?
Ah well, he reminds me of one of those small aggressive terriers hanging at your trouser leg, not really providing anything new, if one discount that pair of sharp teeth :)
How about explaining why you need to destroy once a good site instead?
And what gives you the right to humiliate others?
Plain language.
Here

To sharp a curve for you?
Better in the dark huh
hiding behind a alias perhaps?
TheDoc
QUOTE (yor_on+)
As I said, get rid of that feedback section


You say you really don't care about the feedback and then you ask for it to be taken away? Yeah, that makes your first statement a lie...

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and If you want to defend you right to treat others like sh* do it in plain language.


I already have, you idiot. Ignoring the post where I did so isn't going to make you look any more credible.

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and If you want to defend you right to treat others like sh* do it in plain language.


I already have, you idiot. Ignoring the post where I did so isn't going to make you look any more credible.

As for our new/old not to good friend the Doc?
Ah well, he reminds me of one of those small aggressive terriers hanging at your trouser leg, not really providing anything new, if one discount that pair of sharp teeth smile.gif


Hmm, same old strategy from yor_on. Ignoring anyone who counters his claims, while hurling accusations left and right.

You can do that all you want - it won't make me wrong smile.gif

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How about explaining why you need to destroy once a good site instead?


Another lie, and another example of your hypocrisy. You accuse us of being immature, when your little buddy paradox42 have demostrated no maturity whatsoever. You accuse us of "destroying the site", when posers like you and Farsight and 4Dguy and Zarkov are actively doing so every single day.

Come on, refute me. Prove me wrong. Counter me with a rational argument. Really, it shouldn't be too hard for you.

Come on, refute me. I bet you won't. I bet you can't.
Agent X20
Most humiliating stuff Doc! laugh.gif
TheDoc
QUOTE (Agent X20+May 17 2008, 09:41 PM)
Most humiliating stuff Doc! laugh.gif

I know he's going to ignore that post completely, but in doing so, he'll make himself look like an even bigger idiot.
Gorgeous
QUOTE (Confused2+May 17 2008, 08:31 PM)


His feedback shows this activity is greatly appreciated by the usual bunch AND Gorgeous! Has Gorgeous gone over to the Dark Side? Are penguins secretly taking flying lessons? Is the Easter Bunny REALLY dead?

-C2.

Agent X20 gives me some light relief! wub.gif

How come you're concentrating on this, and not the more sobering stuff? - At least X20 was able to acknowledge that.

Is c2 secretly a humourless, pretentious old git? What do you need to concentrate on 'sides' for? Or is this what you resort to when all your 'theories' are proved wrong?

Here...calm down a bit!



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Agent X20
QUOTE (Gorgeous+May 17 2008, 10:32 PM)
Agent X20 gives me some light relief! wub.gif

How come you're concentrating on this, and not the more sobering stuff? - At least X20 was able to acknowledge that.

Is c2 secretly a humourless, pretentious old git? What do you need to concentrate on 'sides' for? Or is this what you resort to when all your 'theories' are proved wrong?

Here...calm down a bit!



g.

Nicely delivered slag-off! xx laugh.gif
Bloy
QUOTE (TheDoc+May 17 2008, 03:38 PM)

I already have, you idiot. Ignoring the post where I did so isn't going to make you look any more credible.



Hmm, same old strategy from yor_on. Ignoring anyone who counters his claims, while hurling accusations left and right.

You can do that all you want - it won't make me wrong smile.gif



Another lie, and another example of your hypocrisy. You accuse us of being immature, when your little buddy paradox42 have demostrated no maturity whatsoever. You accuse us of "destroying the site", when posers like you and Farsight and 4Dguy and Zarkov are actively doing so every single day.

Come on, refute me. Prove me wrong. Counter me with a rational argument. Really, it shouldn't be too hard for you.

Come on, refute me. I bet you won't. I bet you can't.

The Doc is "loosing" it. now, I might muster a smile, but my morals have instilled sympathy instead.
don't be a looser loser!!!
TheDoc
QUOTE (Bloy+May 17 2008, 10:42 PM)
The Doc is "loosing" it. now, I might muster a smile, but my morals have instilled sympathy instead.

Aw, you can't refute me either, can you?

That certainly brings a smile to my face laugh.gif
Gorgeous
QUOTE (Agent X20+May 17 2008, 10:39 PM)
Nicely delivered slag-off! xx laugh.gif

mad.gif

Ah, I'm a 'slag' now am I? You guys are all the same! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



g.
Sapo
But, you're a Gorgeous slag, eh? What is slag?
Are ya'll waiting for something?
In my country we call that ****, or ************, but that not polite. laugh.gif

laugh.gif
orestis
QUOTE (Agent X20+May 17 2008, 02:55 PM)
.....some godforsaken 3rd world peasant ignoramus-hole.

smile.gif

Incredible.

I'm glad I asked.
Agent X20
QUOTE (orestis+May 17 2008, 11:11 PM)
Incredible.

I'm glad I asked.

Really? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Bloy
QUOTE (Gorgeous+May 17 2008, 04:49 PM)
mad.gif

Ah, I'm a 'slag' now am I? You guys are all the same! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



g.

..just a different way of notating the same group "you guys". the parts don't make a whole.
Agent X20
QUOTE (Bloy+May 17 2008, 11:25 PM)
..just a different way of notating the same group "you guys". the parts don't make a whole.

Conversely you make a whole - an asswhole! laugh.gif
yor_on
Ah. Glad to see you're doing such a good job upholding the proud standards of PhysOrg here:)

But not a peep on why you need to group together to humiliate others though?
Am I asking to much of you?

Awh, sorry.
Maybe you should ask your nanny's if you're allowed up this late ::))

Agent X20
QUOTE (yor_on+May 17 2008, 11:41 PM)
Awh, sorry.
Maybe you should ask your nanny's if you're allowed up this late :smile.gif)

I wish I could tell you (fuckhead) - but it's a secret. smile.gif
Gorgeous
QUOTE (Sapo+May 17 2008, 10:56 PM)
But, you're a Gorgeous slag, eh? What is slag?


http://www.bvslag.com/steel_slag_uses.htm



QUOTE
In my country we call that ****, or ************, but that not polite.


Is it Saudi Arabia?





g.
Sapo
DavidD'ville. Like a bathtub painted blue, but in "Broken English", by Mariann Faithful.

Jesus...
TheDoc
QUOTE (yor_on+)
  Ah. Glad to see you're doing such a good job upholding the proud standards of PhysOrg here:)


Oh, it's you again! I notice you still haven't been able to refute me yet...

QUOTE
But not a peep on why you need to group together to humiliate others though?
Am I asking to much of you?


You humiliate yourselves. By posting pseudoscience, ignoring direct evidence against your arguments, refusing to accept constructive criticism, and blatantly lying (all of which you're quite good at), you actively destroy your own credibility. We just provide the ridicule. You are the ones responsible for your "humiliation".

On a similar note, why not a peep from you on what you consider mature? I've provided a quite entertaining post from one of your friends; do you consider it more mature than the stuff the FM does? Come on, it's a simple yes or no question. Am I asking too much of you?
orestis
Agent-

Thanks for the positive but what I meant was I was incredulous that you think that.
Not sure what country you are in but almost everyone in the States is a descendant of ancestors who came from what were once third world, peasant-whatever you said.
yor_on
Aha, Someone is biting :)
Get loose you "@€£$€" ..
Ah well, is that what's called 'hanging loose' Doc?

Let's see:)
A lot of 'white noise' generated :)
But no real discussion..

Why am I not surprised?


Gorgeous
QUOTE (bloy+)
..just a different way of notating the same group "you guys". the parts don't make a whole.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour#Humour_formulae

When reason breaks down there's nothing quite like it!



g.
yor_on
Well.
What can i say?
I asked some simple questions :)
what I got as answers was ramblings.
Perhaps this will be the future for PhysOrg

Just don't tell me that those people care about anything except their egos.
And the fun they can have backstabbing.
And for those posterior lapping
What can one say?

Some people just do it, could be built in?
Awh sh* :)

-----------

But it's kind of fun how they were drawn to this thread :)
Like pirayas to blood ::))
Filling it up with?

So smart...
Bloy
QUOTE (yor_on+May 17 2008, 09:22 PM)
Well.
What can i say?
I asked some simple questions smile.gif
what I got as answers was ramblings.
Perhaps this will be the future for PhysOrg

Just don't tell me that those people care about anything except their egos.
And the fun they can have backstabbing.
And for those posterior lapping
What can one say?

Some people just do it, could be built in?
Awh sh* smile.gif

-----------

But it's kind of fun how they were drawn to this thread smile.gif
Like pirayas to blood :smile.gif)
Filling it up with?

So smart...

Right_On, yor_on !!!! smile.gif
I'd give you another positive now if I didn't have to wait several more days.
Derek1148
QUOTE (yor_on+May 18 2008, 03:22 AM)
Well.
What can i say?
I asked some simple questions smile.gif
what I got as answers was ramblings.
Perhaps this will be the future for PhysOrg

Just don't tell me that those people care about anything except their egos.
And the fun they can have backstabbing.
And for those posterior lapping
What can one say?

Some people just do it, could be built in?
Awh sh* smile.gif

-----------

But it's kind of fun how they were drawn to this thread smile.gif
Like pirayas to blood :smile.gif)
Filling it up with?

So smart...

Hey yor_on,

I’ve told you once before, you’re taking this way too seriously. In the overall scheme of things, does what is posted on this forum matter?
Bloy
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 17 2008, 09:58 PM)
Hey yor_on,

I’ve told you once before, you’re taking this way too seriously. In the overall scheme of things, does what is posted on this forum matter?

Everyone can disagree but to do with civility would be preferred.
Seems just too many here are simply "mean spirited".
Derek1148
QUOTE (Bloy+May 18 2008, 04:04 AM)
Everyone can disagree but to do with civility would be preferred.
Seems just too many here are simply "mean spirited".

Do the negative comments bother you?
Bloy
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 17 2008, 10:09 PM)
Do the negative comments bother you?

not for me, but rather for those who have been badgered into unstable mental states. Sometimes it can be beneficial to just say "good idea" and go on to something else and understand that some people are just best left to their own thoughts.
In other words, let some have the last word...but not me! wink.gif
TheDoc
QUOTE (yor_on+)
Well.
What can i say?


You can try countering me, but seeing as you're too lazy to do so, I think you should just leave this alone and accept that you've lost the argument wink.gif

QUOTE
I asked some simple questions smile.gif
what I got as answers was ramblings.


You can't counter me, so you decide to ignore me and start lying? Hilarious!

QUOTE (->
QUOTE
I asked some simple questions smile.gif
what I got as answers was ramblings.


You can't counter me, so you decide to ignore me and start lying? Hilarious!

Just don't tell me that those people care about anything except their egos.


Funny that you speak of egos when your little "posterior lapping" buddy StevenA has one of the biggest egos on the forum.

QUOTE

But it's kind of fun how they were drawn to this thread smile.gif


What's even funnier is how you can't actually argue any of the points I've made smile.gif

QUOTE (->
QUOTE

But it's kind of fun how they were drawn to this thread smile.gif


What's even funnier is how you can't actually argue any of the points I've made smile.gif

Like pirayas to blood


It's "piranhas".

QUOTE
So smart...


Much smarter than you, apparently. Because you still haven't been able to respond to anything I've said. All you can do is hurl accusation after accusation, lie after lie. Don't get me wrong, your posts in here are hilarious stuff, but come on, surely you can do better than that wink.gif
Agent X20
QUOTE (orestis+May 18 2008, 12:23 AM)
Agent-

Thanks for the positive but what I meant was I was incredulous that you think that.
Not sure what country you are in but almost everyone in the States is a descendant of ancestors who came from what were once third world, peasant-whatever you said.

orestis, but did these ignorant squalid rag-boys post on physics forums? - No, thought not.

Game-over, you lose! smile.gif
yor_on
Thanks for correcting my spelling Doc.
See my misspelling as just another bait for your proud teeth's vengeance :)

Anyway.

In the greater scheme of things, nothing really matters, I agree.
(almost a song that one)

But in the 'smaller' a little civility goes a long way.
Like when you work, what would happen if you and your coworkers started sending those kind of negs to each others work stations?

And why should we want it here?
That was my questions even if in other words.
And what sort of threshold people expect this site to have set for being allowed here.

As (N)etiquette is rather dead on this site I did want a debate.

It lower the standards i used to expect from here.
But you're correct in that it seems to be a downhill battle to redress this problem.

As most of the responses come from those interested in keeping the status quo.
Then to me that indicates that most are happy with the situation.

So I guess that it really doesn't matter, does it?
We get what we want, a friend once said.

So if you ever get that queasy shoddy feeling about this site :)
Remember that you just got what you wanted.
'No man made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could only do a little' as someone said once.
TheDoc
QUOTE (yor_on+)
  Thanks for correcting my spelling Doc.


You are very welcome!

QUOTE
But in the 'smaller' a little civility goes a long way.


Civility in action!

QUOTE (->
QUOTE
But in the 'smaller' a little civility goes a long way.


Civility in action!

Like when you work, what would happen if you and your coworkers started sending those kind of negs to each others work stations?

And why should we want it here?


This is a physics forum, not a workstation. If you post something idiotic, you'll get ridiculed. If you post something sensible (or if you actually back up your argument), you won't be ridiculed. It's as simple as that.

QUOTE
As most of the responses come from those interested in keeping the status quo.


On a similar note, I notice you still haven't been able to counter anything I've said. Come on. Ignoring me won't strengthen your argument, it'll only strengthen mine.

QUOTE (->
QUOTE
As most of the responses come from those interested in keeping the status quo.


On a similar note, I notice you still haven't been able to counter anything I've said. Come on. Ignoring me won't strengthen your argument, it'll only strengthen mine.

We get what we want, a friend once said.


Not true! I want lying hypocrites like Zarkov and Farsight gone, but they aren't gone, are they?...
rethinker
[QUOTE]yor_on >Like when you work, what would happen if you and your coworkers started sending those kind of negs to each others work stations?<

[QUOTE]TheDoc> And why should we want it here?


This is a physics forum, not a workstation. If you post something idiotic, you'll get ridiculed. If you post something sensible (or if you actually back up your argument), you won't be ridiculed. It's as simple as that.<

If you look at any other forum Using human decency is considered the proper way of communication.


Please consider making a topic of your own where people who what to see how you respond or give them your neg. opinions can view it.

Why not make a topic of TheDoc's judgment notesor anything you wish to call it.

Seriously
you can actually go on line and chat with people who can help you.
I can direct you with links and you can ask questions from professionals that can see right through your problem,and possibly help you.

I would like to see what you have to offer as far as science.

Are you interested in any science?
I have never met anyone who did not have something to offer other
yor_on
Ah Doc :)

I don't know really if I lost something here?

I was hoping this forum would regain some 'respectability' again.
Still, that was to my eyes lost long before my post here.

So no one gained anything as I can see, and the immaturity and verbal abuse that is becoming such a distinguishing feature here will remain unabated.

If you mean that I've let my opinion of some peoples behavior to be known?
Well, I've done that before :)
So that's no news either.

To me it's sad that some find this aggravation necessary to be able enjoy themselves.
And if you look at the postings from before this 'war of attrition' there was so much more substance and interest to the posts.

But hey, take a look yourself.
Don't take my word for it.

Sandra doliak
QUOTE (yor_on+May 19 2008, 03:22 AM)
Ah Doc smile.gif

I don't know really if I lost something here?

I was hoping this forum would regain some 'respectability' again.
Still, that was to my eyes lost long before my post here.

So no one gained anything as I can see, and the immaturity and verbal abuse that is becoming such a distinguishing feature here will remain unabated.

If you mean that I've let my opinion of some peoples behavior to be known?
Well, I've done that before smile.gif
So that's no news either.

To me it's sad that some find this aggravation necessary to be able enjoy themselves.
And if you look at the postings from before this 'war of attrition' there was so much more substance and interest to the posts.

But hey, take a look yourself.
Don't take my word for it.

QUOTE
I was hoping this forum would regain some 'respectability' again.

Ha! The poor bast@rd.


QUOTE (->
QUOTE
I was hoping this forum would regain some 'respectability' again.

Ha! The poor bast@rd.


So no one gained anything as I can see, and the immaturity and verbal abuse that is becoming such a distinguishing feature here will remain unabated.


Oh, How long did it take you to figure that out?

QUOTE
If you mean that I've let my opinion of some peoples behavior to be known?


We mean more than just that.

QUOTE (->
QUOTE
If you mean that I've let my opinion of some peoples behavior to be known?


We mean more than just that.

So no one gained anything as I can see,....


Well, It is quite obvious that it is we that gained something, your stupidity. And whats funny is that your FIGHTING for it!


QUOTE
To me it's sad that some find this aggravation necessary to be able enjoy themselves.


Well, since it is us that's "aggravated", and we are the ones enjoying it, then isn't it obvious that we don't give a $hit?

QUOTE (->
QUOTE
To me it's sad that some find this aggravation necessary to be able enjoy themselves.


Well, since it is us that's "aggravated", and we are the ones enjoying it, then isn't it obvious that we don't give a $hit?

But hey, take a look yourself
Dont take my word for it.


Well you can go, cry, jack off, or whatever it is you do while you wait for new posts. We still don't care.

Sandra





TheDoc
QUOTE (rethinker+)
Please consider making a topic of your own where people who what to see how you respond or give them your neg. opinions can view it.

Why not make a topic of TheDoc's judgment notesor anything you wish to call it.


Will do.

QUOTE
Seriously
you can actually go on line and chat with people who can help you.
I can direct you with links and you can ask questions from professionals that can see right through your problem,and possibly help you.


But the professionals who post all this helpful stuff get frustrated by idiots like Zarkov, or Farsight, or StevenA, all of whom assert without proof that they know better than the experts. Eventually the professionals get so frustrated they leave.

QUOTE (->
QUOTE
Seriously
you can actually go on line and chat with people who can help you.
I can direct you with links and you can ask questions from professionals that can see right through your problem,and possibly help you.


But the professionals who post all this helpful stuff get frustrated by idiots like Zarkov, or Farsight, or StevenA, all of whom assert without proof that they know better than the experts. Eventually the professionals get so frustrated they leave.

Are you interested in any science?


Yes.

QUOTE (yor_on+)
I was hoping this forum would regain some 'respectability' again.


Not with your little crew of "free thinkers" running rampant.

QUOTE
If you mean that I've let my opinion of some peoples behavior to be known?
Well, I've done that before smile.gif


As have I.

MjolnirPants
Why all the whining?
IT'S A GODDAMN INTERNET DISCUSSION BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who cares how many people call you names??? blink.gif unsure.gif

Somebody needs a hug somethin' fierce.....
yor_on
*Whadayaknow*
Cyber hugs from a MjolnirPants :)
Fairly new ain't you..
But wow, posterior lapping with the best

Let me guess, the hammer to the wicked?
As remarkably ingenious and literate, as your friends..
Quite the braniac :)

Don't bother.
If you need to hug someone try your own neighborhood first :)
While your at it, look for a mistletoe.

Who knows :)
Maybe you'll get lucky

although I doubt it.

-----------------------------
How was it now again Doc

Drawn as pirhayas? Prianas
Partyanas? Awh whatever..

To blood :)
MjolnirPants
QUOTE (yor_on+May 20 2008, 05:06 AM)
*Whadayaknow*
Cyber hugs from a MjolnirPants
Fairly new ain't you..
But wow, posterior lapping with the best

Let me guess, the hammer to the wicked?
As remarkably ingenious and literate, as your friends..
Quite the braniac 

Don't bother.
If you need to hug someone try your own neighborhood first
While your at it, look for a mistletoe.

Who knows
Maybe you'll get lucky

although I doubt it.

You know what occurs to me as I read this? That's exactly the same kind of stuff you've been whining about... unsure.gif blink.gif
Derek1148
As ridiculous as it might be for one to be upset by internet postings, it does happen. Suppose you knew you were not just upsetting someone but possibly pushing him or her to harm themselves, would you stop?
gmilam
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 20 2008, 11:37 AM)
As ridiculous as it might be for one to be upset by internet postings, it does happen. Suppose you knew you were not just upsetting someone but possibly pushing him or her to harm themselves, would you stop?

Depends on who it is. rolleyes.gif
Derek1148
QUOTE (gmilam+May 20 2008, 05:48 PM)
Depends on who it is. rolleyes.gif

That reminds me of line from a movie (Volunteers). When a Peace Corp worker decides to quit and go home, his idealistic girlfriend asks: “Can’t you help these people?”

He responds: “It is not that I can’t help them. I just don’t want to help them.”
MjolnirPants
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 20 2008, 04:37 PM)
As ridiculous as it might be for one to be upset by internet postings, it does happen. Suppose you knew you were not just upsetting someone but possibly pushing him or her to harm themselves, would you stop?

The ethical thing to do would be to have a trusted (by them) third party reccomend they seek psychiatric help. Cause if yer gettin all worked up over what someone says to you online, you've got deeper problems than some hurt feelings...
gmilam
QUOTE (Derek1148+May 20 2008, 01:15 PM)
That reminds me of line from a movie (Volunteers). When a Peace Corp worker decides to quit and go home, his idealistic girlfriend asks: “Can’t you help these people?”

He responds: “It is not that I can’t help them. I just don’t want to help them.”

That reminds me of a friend of mine who is from Korea. Her husband and I were talking about the Peace Corp and she said, "They not have it so rough. They come to my village when I was little girl and dig well. We already had well."
yor_on
I love when you use your minds instead of your mouths.
Then it's almost fun to read you :)

Anyway antsypants :)
I can joke with the best

And this have been one of my best jokes on this site :::)))
And you've been my main characters :)

As for a hero? I'll leave that to the audience.
But thanks for your participation.


Sapo
Cool! You're On!

Are you good, now? tongue.gif

I love this shtuf...
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