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coberst
Critical Thinker Habitually Pulls Back the Curtain

I guess, for all of us, a meme that gives impetuous to much of our behavior is the “capitalism is good” meme. This meme, with its closest suburbs, probably represents a fundamental element of the dominant ideology of western culture.

This cluster of memes contains the wonderful “doing good by doing well” meme. This is the rascal that allows us to follow our imperialistic impulses. This meme allows us to invade Iraq under false pretenses, it allows us to open our borders to those who will work cheap, it allows for the “trickle down” economic theory, it allowed the Nineteenth Century imperialism practiced by our European cousins, etc.

Most of the memes we live by have never been examined by any of us. I suspect this one, in particular, needs to be placed on the table for close individual examination.

We saw the Nineteenth Century birth of a new economic entity, the corporation. A recent delivery of a new economic entity has occurred. This is the corporation-state. The new supranational corporation is here and on a fast freight. I suspect all these things happened too fast for a liberal democracy to encompass; so much for liberal democracy.

CT is about analyzing and understanding.

One thing I have learned about playing chess is that for almost every move there is a bad judgment a good judgment and a better judgment. And I also learned that one pays a price for each bad judgment.

In life we are constantly making judgments. There is an art and science for judgment making and it is called Critical Thinking. Our schools and colleges have prepared us to make good judgments about special matters as it might pertain to our job but have done little to prepare us for the constant judgment making. CT is about learning how to think.


Perhaps philosophy should be an advocate of “lets take a meme out for examination” day.

“Weaken the nation state and you weaken liberal democracy.”
Beer w/Straw
Your argument, if there is one, defeats itself if I say the word "history." Learning from the mistakes -those bad moves from the memes. You could have said "If it ain't broke, fix it." But that's getting into politics. Vote, I guess?

Or we could travel into the future to see consequences of actions before we made them.
coberst
The first step toward solving our problems is to learn CT (Critical Thinking).

CT is an acronym for Critical Thinking. Everybody considers themselves to be a critical thinker. That is why we need to differentiate among different levels of critical thinking.

Most people fall in the category that I call Reagan thinkers—trust but verify. Then there are those who have taken the basic college course taught by the philosophy dept that I call Logic 101. This is a credit course that teaches the basic principles of reasoning. Of course, a person need not take the college course and can learn the matter on their own effort, but I suspect few do that.

The third level I call CT (Critical Thinking). CT includes the knowledge of Logic 101 and also the knowledge that focuses upon the intellectual character and attitude of critical thinking. It includes knowledge regarding the ego and social centric forces that impede rational thinking.

Most decisions we have to make are judgment calls. A judgment call is made when we must make a decision when there is no “true” or “false” answers. When we make a judgment call our decision is bad, good, or better.

Many factors are involved: there are the available facts, assumptions, skills, knowledge, and especially personal experience and attitude. I think that the two most important elements in the mix are personal experience and attitude.

When we study math we learn how to use various algorithms to facilitate our skill in dealing with quantities. If we never studied math we could deal with quantity on a primary level but our quantifying ability would be minimal. Likewise with making judgments; if we study the art and science of good judgment we can make better decisions and if we never study the art and science of judgment our decision ability will remain minimal.

I am convinced that a fundamental problem we have in this country (USA) is that our citizens have never learned the art and science of good judgment. Before the recent introduction of CT into our schools and colleges our young people have been taught primarily what to think and not how to think. All of us graduated with insufficient comprehension of the knowledge, skills, and attitude necessary for the formulation of good judgment. The result of this inability to make good judgment is evident and is dangerous.

I am primarily interested in the judgment that adults exercise in regard to public issues. Of course, any improvement in judgment generally will affect both personal and community matters.

To put the matter into a nut shell:
1. Normal men and women can significantly improve their ability to make judgments.
2. CT is the domain of knowledge that delineates the knowledge, skills, and intellectual character demanded for good judgment.
3. CT has been introduced into our schools and colleges slowly in the last two or three decades.
4. Few of today’s adults were ever taught CT.
5. I suspect that at least another two generations will pass before our society reaps significant rewards resulting from teaching CT to our children.
6. Can our democracy survive that long?
7. I think that every effort must be made to convince today’s adults that they need to study and learn CT on their own. I am not suggesting that adults find a teacher but I am suggesting that adults become self-actualizing learners.
8. I am convinced that learning the art and science of Critical Thinking is an important step toward becoming a better citizen in today’s democratic society.

Questions for discussion//

Have you ever had a course in Critical Thinking in any educational institution?

Have your children ever had a course in Critical Thinking in any educational institution?




Perhaps you are not familiar with CT. I first encountered the concept about five years ago. The following are a few Internet sites that will familiarize you with the matter.

http://www.freeinquiry.com/critical-notes.html

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:mkodB...s&ct=clnk&cd=11

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/inquiry/fall95/weinste.html

http://www.criticalthinking.org/resources/.../glossary.shtml

http://www.doit.gmu.edu/inventio/past/disp...ng03&sID=eslava

Beer w/Straw
What you have indeed professed is that everyone is dumb. I'm so scared that you would find me dumb to. I'm quivering. So, nutbar, how do you propose that you teach people how to think? Teach people how to learn? It's pretty hard to for me to listen to you when I myself think you are a retard.


Or to put it another way.

"I pay my taxes. Government thinks so I don't have to"

~Homer Simpson


I.e You carry on with your retard philosophy while I go to University to study physics.
MjolnirPants
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I guess, for all of us, a meme that gives impetuous to much of our behavior is the “capitalism is good” meme.

You can guess all ya want, but unless ya got some proof, yer jes guessin.

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I guess, for all of us, a meme that gives impetuous to much of our behavior is the “capitalism is good” meme.

You can guess all ya want, but unless ya got some proof, yer jes guessin.

This meme, with its closest suburbs, probably represents a fundamental element of the dominant ideology of western culture.

Tell that t'all them folks cryin fer communism in the 19th & 20th century. Tell that to Marx or Lenin.

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This cluster of memes contains the wonderful “doing good by doing well” meme.

T'think that sucess is equated with virtue in any western moral system is... well, delusional.

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This cluster of memes contains the wonderful “doing good by doing well” meme.

T'think that sucess is equated with virtue in any western moral system is... well, delusional.

This is the rascal that allows us to follow our imperialistic impulses.

Yeah, them impulses that led us to annex Germany, Japan, Vietnam, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan and all th'other countries we've invaded in the past century, instead o settin em up with a native government an leavin em to run their own country.
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This meme allows us to invade Iraq under false pretenses, it allows us to open our borders to those who will work cheap, it allows for the “trickle down” economic theory, it allowed the Nineteenth Century imperialism practiced by our European cousins, etc.

I coulda swore "WMD's!" was the cry o the invasion o Iraq, not "Profit!"
I coulda swore trickle down economics never took hold in America.
I coulda swore the INS was deportin every illegal alien it caught what couldn't get legal post haste.
But then, whatta I know?

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This meme allows us to invade Iraq under false pretenses, it allows us to open our borders to those who will work cheap, it allows for the “trickle down” economic theory, it allowed the Nineteenth Century imperialism practiced by our European cousins, etc.

I coulda swore "WMD's!" was the cry o the invasion o Iraq, not "Profit!"
I coulda swore trickle down economics never took hold in America.
I coulda swore the INS was deportin every illegal alien it caught what couldn't get legal post haste.
But then, whatta I know?

Most of the memes we live by have never been examined by any of us.

That must be why there's only one subculture in America.

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A recent delivery of a new economic entity has occurred. This is the corporation-state.

Really? What corporation would be the one runnin our country, right now? Haliburton? AT&T? Time-Warner? I see a lot o companies profitin off our governments blunders an actions, but not a whole lot o companies puttin folk in office...

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A recent delivery of a new economic entity has occurred. This is the corporation-state.

Really? What corporation would be the one runnin our country, right now? Haliburton? AT&T? Time-Warner? I see a lot o companies profitin off our governments blunders an actions, but not a whole lot o companies puttin folk in office...

I suspect all these things happened too fast for a liberal democracy to encompass; so much for liberal democracy.

I reckon the sky is green; so much fer blue skies...

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Perhaps philosophy should be an advocate of “lets take a meme out for examination” day.

laugh.gif What exactly do ya think philosophy is, son?
Beer w/Straw
C'mon! I wanted to be grilled so I could argue why I think Hamlet should be taught in schools.
newton
notice how the mere suggestion of a glitch in the almighty capitalist system brings the barbarian horde down a rapin' and a pillagin' with that berserker glint in their beady little eyes.

simply, the capitalist system taken to it's extreme is a monopoly/dictatorship.

it's here, now. we just don't know who the biggest boss is. sure, there's warren buffet and the rothschilds, and the rockefellers, bildebergers, etc, but the all-seeing eye is still an invisible capstone.

at least let the plebes complain without all the brow-beating, you brain-washed automaton shadow government fascists' puppets.
Beer w/Straw
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notice how the mere suggestion of a glitch in the almighty capitalist system brings the barbarian horde down a rapin' and a pillagin' with that berserker glint in their beady little eyes.

simply, the capitalist system taken to it's extreme is a monopoly/dictatorship.

it's here, now. we just don't know who the biggest boss is. sure, there's warren buffet and the rothschilds, and the rockefellers, bildebergers, etc, but the all-seeing eye is still an invisible capstone.

at least let the plebes complain without all the brow-beating, you brain-washed automaton shadow government fascists' puppets.

LOL biggrin.gif


I didn't even mention Capitalism!

But thanks for the neg!

MjolnirPants
QUOTE (newton+Jun 11 2008, 04:15 AM)
notice how the mere suggestion of a glitch in the almighty capitalist system brings the barbarian horde down a rapin' and a pillagin' with that berserker glint in their beady little eyes.

Rapin an pillagin? Nobody in my family's done that fer bout 1200 years!

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simply, the capitalist system taken to it's extreme is a monopoly/dictatorship.

ROFLMAO Yer about as knowledgable as a rock with a learnin disability....
A monopoly is a state which a capitalist system could produce, but it's pretty much the antithesis. Know why? Take a pure monopoly, 1 company providin all o the goods an services, an whatta ya call that kind o system in the real world? A communism. wink.gif
An as fer the dictatorship, that's jes beyond irrelevent. That's like sayin that bmx racin, taken to it's extreme is an orange. Government an economy jes ain't the same thing, son.

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simply, the capitalist system taken to it's extreme is a monopoly/dictatorship.

ROFLMAO Yer about as knowledgable as a rock with a learnin disability....
A monopoly is a state which a capitalist system could produce, but it's pretty much the antithesis. Know why? Take a pure monopoly, 1 company providin all o the goods an services, an whatta ya call that kind o system in the real world? A communism. wink.gif
An as fer the dictatorship, that's jes beyond irrelevent. That's like sayin that bmx racin, taken to it's extreme is an orange. Government an economy jes ain't the same thing, son.

it's here, now. we just don't know who the biggest boss is.

Oh god, yer not jes dumb, yer delusional, too... We ain't livin in a dictatorship with a monopoly economy. We jes ain't. Try to keep track o reality, son.

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at least let the plebes complain without all the brow-beating, you brain-washed automaton shadow government fascists' puppets.

ROFLMAO Talk about delusional... Prove that true, why doncha? I mean, ya can't, cause it ain't true, but feel free to try! I get the feelin yer attempt will be amusin smile.gif
newton
fuzzy lumpkins

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Fuzzy logic is a form of multi-valued logic derived from fuzzy set theory to deal with reasoning that is approximate rather than precise. Just as in fuzzy set theory the set membership values can range (inclusively) between 0 and 1, in fuzzy logic the degree of truth of a statement can range between 0 and 1 and is not constrained to the two truth values {true, false} as in classic predicate logic.[1] And when linguistic variables are used, these degrees may be managed by specific functions, as discussed below.

Fuzzy set theory was first introduced in 1965 by Lotfi Zadeh at the University of California, Berkeley and fuzzy logic was derived from it for use in applications.[2] It has been applied to diverse fields from control theory to artificial intelligence, yet still remains controversial among most statisticians who prefer probabilistic logic and some control engineers who prefer traditional two valued logic.


critical thinking is the same.
you hold up different possibilities in a set. if there is anything in the set the doesn't 'gel', it is discarded as false.

only items which can satisfy all conditions can remain in this process of input/output elimination. all possibilities are held in a 'recycle bin' until a (fairly) solid outcome is achieved.

when i was a kid there were HUNDREDS of independent news and broadcast companies. now, there is but a handful.
when i was a kid, there were THOUSANDS of mom and pop hardware stores. now, there are hardly any.
it USED to be possible to open a retail store, and to prosper based on practise. now, it is not possible to compete with multi-million dollar volume buyers.

BIG BOX = MONOPOLY(s) = TOTALITARIANISM

mom and pop work for minimum wage at wal-mart, now, and the whole store is moving to the next county 'cause they tries to form a union for fair working conditions.

amused, yet?
newton
really!?

all that? DAMN!!

why don't you 'prove' this is wrong?

"prove" anything in the post-information age.
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