Ok it has been requested that an elementary course in cosmic mechanics be discussed.
I will start off with an observation
I call it Gcentral-spin or Gcs
NASA calls it mu... actually they use the Greek letter u
Gcs = r v^2
v= velocity of orbiting body
and r = distance from the centre of the central body
Now some homework
If a satellite is orbiting the Earth at earth-radius, its velocity is 7.91 km/sec
.... forget air resistance
What is the value of Gcs (call this 1) .... now do the same calculation for the Moon, and for some other satellites at varying distances from Earth that you can get data for... you should source data... and post that data to share
The purpose of this is to determine just what goes around what... remember spin systems have a preferred frame of reference.. and all concepts here are spin-centred.
Can Gcs (1) be used to determine all spin characteristics of the Earth system ?
QUOTE (Zarkov+May 14 2008, 05:02 AM)
If a satellite is orbiting the Earth at earth-radius, its velocity is 7.91 km/sec
.... forget air resistance
.... forget air resistance
well that's that
you can't even get pass an example
drain thread
you can't even get pass an example
drain thread
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Zarkov:- uh ?
Newton's G has nothing to do with gravity... it is a compound value. composed of spherical constants, pi and the scaling factor of magnetism
It is a "matter" constant... related to the "mass of a spherical body"
and NOTHING to do with gravity....
Gravity is to do with FIELD spin.... which is driven from afar.................
Yes weird hey... but its true
Earthlings have gone light years off the mark in so many important scientific concepts.
well in effect all the spin systems of the Universe are linked like cogs, one driving the other... there are drivers and there are those that are driven
Mach twigged to this quite a while ago... see Mach's principle
but I suppose all are drivers and all are driven, all spins are governed by energy considerations
eg the Sun drives the Earth... the Earth drives the Moon... the galactic spin drives the Sun.... and Jupiter drives the Sun to some degree... what a tangled spinning web!!!
all understandable... but space travelers are going to have to map out the spin zones if they wish to go where no earthling has gone before AND be able to come back, LOL
Now I know g = (G M1*M2)/r^2 Newton
but really g = (Gcentral-spin) / r^2.... ie spin / r^2... or an acceleration resultant towards the centre of spin.
so since the mass of the Earth or whatever cosmic body you wish to point to, is NOT really known...... and, as if you know the mass of the Sun... this is shabby science
to point to mass to generate gravity is totally totally SILLY
so from the above
IF you knew G with certainty... (and G's value is NOT the value published, BTW close but incorrect)
then you may find cosmic mass from Gcentral-spin = G * cosmic Mass
but to use cosmic mass in any equation is just so inaccurate
Cosmic mass is the superposition of all charged and magnetic particles in a spherical body.... mmmh, just a bit hard to play with, LOL
Um, no they don't.
Both Newton and Einstein affirm that every viewer has a right to consider themself at rest in their own frame of reference. there is NEVER a preferred frame of reference in relativity.
NOw, whether relativity is correct in saying this or not, I don't think it is, but at least seperate your own ideas from the correct interpretation of mainstream ideas.
Mainstream ideas, in this case are totally incorrect, as I was about to demonstrate from this thread
THESE ARE ALL MY MATH INTERPRETATIONS>... this is not someone's else's ideas
Certainly I am building upon Newton... and maybe more
But I am sure the reader never would have thought that ZARKOV is a parrot... like most here !!!!!!!!!
LOL
READ MY LIPS....
FIELD SPIN not planet rotation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are reading my words with your own mindset... that is OK by me, but before you cry foul, really try and read what I say CORRECTLY
Space is composed of differentially spinning fields of Poynting vector energies
magnetic-electric field spin... ALL connected via Mach's principle... and yes it is these field spin that dictate INERTIA
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Paul h:- >G has nothing to do with gravity.blink.gif blink.gif WHAT? blink.gif blink.gif
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Zarkov:- uh ?
Newton's G has nothing to do with gravity... it is a compound value. composed of spherical constants, pi and the scaling factor of magnetism
It is a "matter" constant... related to the "mass of a spherical body"
and NOTHING to do with gravity....
Gravity is to do with FIELD spin.... which is driven from afar.................
Yes weird hey... but its true
Earthlings have gone light years off the mark in so many important scientific concepts.
QUOTE
Paul h:-Like a remote controlled drone aircraft, or model car???
well in effect all the spin systems of the Universe are linked like cogs, one driving the other... there are drivers and there are those that are driven
Mach twigged to this quite a while ago... see Mach's principle
but I suppose all are drivers and all are driven, all spins are governed by energy considerations
eg the Sun drives the Earth... the Earth drives the Moon... the galactic spin drives the Sun.... and Jupiter drives the Sun to some degree... what a tangled spinning web!!!
all understandable... but space travelers are going to have to map out the spin zones if they wish to go where no earthling has gone before AND be able to come back, LOL
Now I know g = (G M1*M2)/r^2 Newton
but really g = (Gcentral-spin) / r^2.... ie spin / r^2... or an acceleration resultant towards the centre of spin.
so since the mass of the Earth or whatever cosmic body you wish to point to, is NOT really known...... and, as if you know the mass of the Sun... this is shabby science
to point to mass to generate gravity is totally totally SILLY
so from the above
IF you knew G with certainty... (and G's value is NOT the value published, BTW close but incorrect)
then you may find cosmic mass from Gcentral-spin = G * cosmic Mass
but to use cosmic mass in any equation is just so inaccurate
Cosmic mass is the superposition of all charged and magnetic particles in a spherical body.... mmmh, just a bit hard to play with, LOL
QUOTE
The purpose of this is to determine just what goes around what... remember spin systems have a preferred frame of reference.. and all concepts here are spin-centred.
Um, no they don't.
Both Newton and Einstein affirm that every viewer has a right to consider themself at rest in their own frame of reference. there is NEVER a preferred frame of reference in relativity.
NOw, whether relativity is correct in saying this or not, I don't think it is, but at least seperate your own ideas from the correct interpretation of mainstream ideas.
QUOTE
your own ideas from the correct interpretation of mainstream ideas.
Mainstream ideas, in this case are totally incorrect, as I was about to demonstrate from this thread
THESE ARE ALL MY MATH INTERPRETATIONS>... this is not someone's else's ideas
Certainly I am building upon Newton... and maybe more
But I am sure the reader never would have thought that ZARKOV is a parrot... like most here !!!!!!!!!
LOL
QUOTE
Paul h:- gravity and non-spinning objects.
READ MY LIPS....
FIELD SPIN not planet rotation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are reading my words with your own mindset... that is OK by me, but before you cry foul, really try and read what I say CORRECTLY
Space is composed of differentially spinning fields of Poynting vector energies
magnetic-electric field spin... ALL connected via Mach's principle... and yes it is these field spin that dictate INERTIA
Whatever eventual mechanism is discovered to explain gravity, barkingly braindead Zarky is > profoundly incapable of understanding that it will continue on being just G.
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