The difference between
Compressed Air Engines and
MY CAC Thermal Combustion Engines is that my TCE would function with whatever the temperature of
Compressed Air. It would have additional technology between the `
CAC(Compressed Air Cylinder)' and the
Engine that
converts the pressure of the
potential energy into
Mechanical EnergyThe additional technology would chamber apparatus containing a turbine compressor. Compressed Air would simply flow through it normally like though a pipe and drive the car. However when a small amount of fuel is injected into the chamber the turbine would combust the fuel increasing the temperature of the bulk of
Compressed Air entering the
Compressed Air EngineThat means as an example if the
CAE produces 45 kilowatts of power with cold
Compressed Air then the power would increase incrementally with the raising of the temperature of the gas entering the engine. A
contained chamber of strategically geared centrifuge compressors would only spin when there was a difference in temperature between the cambers inlet and outlet valves, and that would only happen if someone decided to use some fuel whilst driving. Otherwise the contained compressor chamber wouldn't spin like a
Thermal Combustion Engine and would have as much significance as a pipe to the Compressed Air Engine
Another improvement to the CAC Thermal combustion engine to make it completely `GREEN' is to use Hydrogen as the inject-able fuel when someone wants to use more power than the regular `Compressed Air Cylinders' can provide. The emissions would be pure water vapor. And to put the cherry on the cake the CAR can be a domestic plug-in that recharges when you plug it in at home and the electricity can be used to super heat a pipe from the CAC's that would increase the pressure of the compressed air giving extra power. Given that your all possibly rev heads and if your going to inject whatever fuel to heat up the pressure coming from the CAC's then you could have option of fitting a `Compressed Oxygen Cylinder' amongst your CAC's
PIATLAS
28th January 2008 - 08:41 AM
QUOTE (PIATLAS+Jan 28 2008, 05:35 AM)
And to put the cherry on the cake the CAR can be a domestic plug-in that recharges when you plug it in at home and the electricity can be used to super heat a pipe from the CAC's that would increase the pressure of the compressed air giving extra power.
Perhaps instead of using the electricity to super heat the `Compressed Air' there could be more potential power to simply charge some of it with energy to give it pressure and velocity (Ionize and electrically accelerate the gas through the `Compressed Air Engine' )?
PIATLAS
29th January 2008 - 05:41 AM
Maintaining the pressure in your CAC when Compressed Air pressure is running low can be solved in two ways: Use lasers to heat up the temperature of the remaining Compressed Air in the CAC as-well to progressively electrically ionize the gas in the CAC to increase the pressure. Thus the power of the car wouldn't be completely dependent on the volume of gas in the CAC as stored potential energy but would have its potential energy increased with electric ionization as-well as thermally with lasers providing constant pressure even when down to 10% Compressed Air.
John A
30th January 2008 - 04:04 PM
Why use air? Why not use a chemical in a closed system? One that flashes into vapor when it reaches a certain temperature, and can be condensed back into liquid to repeat the cycle? This is the idea behind my evaporation engine. Think about it.
paul h
30th January 2008 - 09:28 PM
QUOTE (John A+Jan 30 2008, 12:04 PM)
Why use air? Why not use a chemical in a closed system? One that flashes into vapor when it reaches a certain temperature, and can be condensed back into liquid to repeat the cycle? This is the idea behind my evaporation engine. Think about it.
Because air is cheap to compress, very clean, safe, shall I go on?
John A
30th January 2008 - 10:26 PM
"Because air is cheap to compress, very clean, safe, shall I go on?"
So are the chemicals. In fact, they are easier to compress than air. No exhaust at all, no high pressure tanks.
paul h
31st January 2008 - 02:24 AM
QUOTE (John A+Jan 30 2008, 06:26 PM)
"Because air is cheap to compress, very clean, safe, shall I go on?"
So are the chemicals. In fact, they are easier to compress than air. No exhaust at all, no high pressure tanks.
Well let me put it this way:
The village idiot can plug in an air compressor, but I don't think grandpa will want to fool around with chemicals. or pay someone else to do it for him. Then there is the transportation, storage and disposal. oh yea what happens to them in a crash? AND the exhaust from air gives you air conditioning (for Free). Simplicity (KISS). Why go for the Rube Goldberg design when this is so easy?
John A
31st January 2008 - 04:35 AM
Paul,
I guess that you don't know what a closed system is. There will be no messing around with chemicals, nothing to plug in, no storage, transportation, or disposal of chemicals. Also, this system will work as an A/C better than any air exhaust could.
zzZing....
paul h
31st January 2008 - 09:00 PM
QUOTE (John A+Jan 31 2008, 12:35 AM)
Paul,
I guess that you don't know what a closed system is. There will be no messing around with chemicals, nothing to plug in, no storage, transportation, or disposal of chemicals. Also, this system will work as an A/C better than any air exhaust could.
zzZing....
I do understand what a closed system is and I know that in automotive applications there is no such thing. (in real world applications that is) the closest thing to a closed system on a car is the A/C system. And if it were truly "closed" you wouldn't see A/C repair signs on every other corner. The chemicals will either leak out or deplete themselves and need replacement. that is providing it doesn't take more power to mix, expand and condense them back into a liquid than the power that you get out of them. However, with that said. I'm open to learn more about your engine.
rethinker
1st February 2008 - 02:37 AM
QUOTE (John A+Jan 30 2008, 11:35 PM)
Paul,
I guess that you don't know what a closed system is. There will be no messing around with chemicals, nothing to plug in, no storage, transportation, or disposal of chemicals. Also, this system will work as an A/C better than any air exhaust could.
zzZing....
I was Wondering, Wouldn't the chemicals brake down?
How many cycles could be possible using a chemical?
And about the mechanical energy used to compress air,seems like you must have compressors running everywhere to meet the needs.
Using the energy direct instead of indirect has always been more efficient.
Right now nothing beats having meat. Gasoline's got the muscle to push pistons around.
I don't like it,but the system is so well established now, that oil is in some form everywhere.
Look in your garage, chances are there is some.
rethinker
1st February 2008 - 02:46 AM
QUOTE (John A+Jan 20 2008, 01:01 PM)
The air engine has been around for decades. You can even purchase a conversion kit for a V8. This is where I got my idea for my evaporation engine...But, I won't get into the details. Think about it.
One Example John
From your link
QUOTE
We have been told that a company in Europe is getting about 124 miles on one full tank of air?
Now that's some real science research!
I'm convinced just from what they were told.
And the image, what year do you think that drawing was made and patent issued?
Not to say the research should not continue, but the link is a little light duty, don't you think?
PIATLAS
1st February 2008 - 03:31 AM
QUOTE (John A+Jan 30 2008, 04:04 PM)
Why use air? Why not use a chemical in a closed system? One that flashes into vapor when it reaches a certain temperature, and can be condensed back into liquid to repeat the cycle? This is the idea behind my evaporation engine. Think about it.
I haven't read about your evaporative engine so I'm unfamiliar with your principal.
However because your using the words evaporation and closed system.
The recipe of ingredients for such a system would be the following:
1) Pluggin Rechargeable hydrogen-fluorine fuel cells to provide power
2) A CO2 LASER to quickly and variably heat up a steel cone
3) A water injection system that spays onto the tip of the cone producing steam at high pressure
4) An steam analogue to a CAE
5) A alcohol based condenser to recycle the steam.
5) A thermopile semiconductor to convert the heat captured by the refrigerant alcohol into electricity to recharge the fuel cells.
Sapo
1st February 2008 - 04:07 AM
And a truckload of fertilizer to sell it?

Have you ever read about snake-oil?
paul h
1st February 2008 - 11:45 AM
Again, here is what I think to be the best motor for many,many applications.
However I think that the ultimate application for a car would have one of these motors at each wheel with a computerized traction control system. With a small battery bank to power the electric system IE radio, lights, horn, windows, wipers and such.
http://www.engineair.com.au/index.htm
rethinker
8th February 2008 - 01:12 AM
QUOTE (paul h+Feb 1 2008, 06:45 AM)
Again, here is what I think to be the best motor for many,many applications.
However I think that the ultimate application for a car would have one of these motors at each wheel with a computerized traction control system. With a small battery bank to power the electric system IE radio, lights, horn, windows, wipers and such.
http://www.engineair.com.au/index.htm
Paul
I should of wrote days ago, but I was not on line.
I was very impressed with you link.
I wish I could get a hold of one of those air engines. If I could I am sure I could come up with a way to incorporate it into a useful tool for our energy deficiency.
Thanks so much for the link and clarification.
PIATLAS
8th February 2008 - 03:13 AM
The engineair link show a very ingenious looking engine
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