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Chinese scientists are endeavoring to create a "space ecological chain" for long-time human survival in space by developing a regenerative environment-control and life-support system for manned space flight.

The task of space environment-control and life-support system is to create, in an enclosed environment in a spacecraft or on a planet base, an atmospheric environment similar to that on the Earth, so as to ensure that men can live healthily and work efficiently in space or on a planet base.

The system is classified into three categories, namely non- regenerative, physical-chemical regenerative and biological regenerative ones. Under the third category, photosynthesis of green plants are used to create an "ecological chain" to ensure the regeneration of oxygen, water and food for a human to live in space.

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Carbonflux
It about time someone leveraged the old biosphere project and extended the idea.

I wish China well with this.

I hope China succeeds with this beyond anyones expectations.

I hope this really kicks the rest of the world into gear.

Great story to post, thanks.
Brian Burrell
hmm. whole planet dynasties. the "united planet of north korea" threatening it's neighbors for more space burritos. sounds interesting..
Guest
maybe they are planning on doing this with the Shenzue module; as they keep launching and leaving half the shenzue's up there, they could build up a spacestation; sounds pretty innovative to me and for a fraction of the space activities cost america does things at!
Trent
Someone has to do it, i dont mind as long as its not one of those countries bent of military world domination (i.e. some middle eastern countries and north korea). China seeks world domination too but economical domination and thats ok, so far the US holds that crown and i dont mind at all if its taken away. Goooo chinks lead us into the space age =)
Guest
Has anyone considered the idea that the reason they can do it for less american dollars than America can is because they have a lot cheaper labor, they have more natural resources, and they use as high quality material as America does? Oh yes, and how much is it costing to leave all that up there and trust someone else (America) to bring your butt home when things go wrong.

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sounds pretty innovative to me and for a fraction of the space activities cost america does things at!
kirk
I'm going to learn Mandarin
afuturehead
Dealing with biological byproducts is an admirable and perhaps necessary goal, but I'm skeptical of a biosphere's utility.

Fundamentally we are talking about how to battle entropy. A certain amount of energy is used up in support of the crew and its mission, maintaining for them a hospitable environment (metabolism, recycling waste, etc.).

This energy can be applied to mechanical devices such as filters, or as the Chinese essay, to biological systems. The advantage of a biological system is that it can capture a broader array of energy (in terms of its form and intensity) than can a mechanical system, which would require a more concentrated power source such as a battery. It is similarly better at reconstituting a variety of waste into useful materials (e.g. nutrient and element cycles, food chains) but pays for this advantage with a more distributed system that requires more energy to obtain a given result.

The problem, therefore, is that to effectively capture energy and transmit it to sustain a highly complex being, viz. humans, a biological system must act on a massive scale. This is well and good on earth, where we are parked next to a large star that donates its radiant energy. In deep space, however, energy is not nearly as abundant.

I think that fundamentally, a self-sustained biological environment is on par with a perpetual motion machine.

This would appear to leave as our only option a mechanical system designed to support biological beings. However, its recycling would not be as effective as would a biological system's.

Before working too hard on a second earth, I think it behooves us to better define what it is we want to preserve -- is it "life" in its biological manifestation, or "intelligence?" If it is intelligence, then the vehicle is not as important, and an abiological form could be better preserved and transported away from earth.
Carbonflux
Yup, they had to 'cheat' on the biosphere, several times.

For me the key word is: Try.

If it was up to me I would park all heavy industry at a Lx stable orbit and burst forth with dangerious over production without a thought to enviromentalisum while returning the earth to a park-like utopian garden like some kind of Maxfield Parish painting, chic people drinking elixers and knowing only pleasure while a race of grime covered robots provide all the needed resouces from their gothic orbital factories, etc...

Guesto
Guest (on Oct 19 2005, 11:42AM by Guest) Of course thats why they have cheaper prices. They dont charge absurd amounts of money for things AND they got near slave labour salaries. But really, NO ONE expects the US to save their butts, especially with NASA's defective space shuttles grounded till mid next year. They know that if something goes wrong the chinkonauts die. Best they could do is pay the russians for help.
Guest
Its not only the cheap labor that makes their program less expensive than ours. The russians also run a significantly cheaper space program than we do. The fact of the matter is that NASA doesn't utilize its resources very well. A shuttle launch costs 3-7 times more than using capsules. While the shuttle is a much more versatile and robust system, do we really need to use one for every single mission? Would it not make more sense to use both in tandem as the mission specs require?

Ofc, my favorite idea is leaving a shuttle, or similar vehicle in orbit and launching crews and supplies via cheaper alternatives. Power it up and use it when needed, but leave it inert the rest of the time. And yes, I know that creates some complexities, but it would no doubt save tons of cash, and allow more missions for the same amount of funding, so it would be worthwhile.
Bajiemon
America runs space.

You have no idea the kinds of military installations America already has in space.

China is decades behind.

Worldpeace,
Ben
raymond
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on  Oct 19 2005, 08:28AM  by  Trent
Someone has to do it, i dont mind as long as its not one of those countries bent of military world domination (i.e. some middle eastern countries and north korea).


Guess you missed out on what USA's being doing lately. Dont forget them in the list.
Guest_John
Remember that China is a communist state with a stated goal of world domination, so I don't recommend cheering them on. Do you really need to feel the boot of the People's Army on your neck before you realize what the word totalitarian means?
grandpa held bets
Program on the emergence of civilization.

"14 species of large animals capable of domesitcation in the history of mankind.
13 from Europe, Asia and northern Africa.
None from the sub-Saharan African continent. "
Favor.
And disfavor.

They point out Africans’ failed attempts to domesticate the elephant and zebra, the latter being an animal they illustrate that had utmost importance for it's applicability in transformation from a hunting/gathering to agrarian-based civilization.

The roots of racism are not of this earth.

Austrailia, aboriginals:::No domesticable animals.

The North American continent had none. Now 99% of that population is gone.

AIDS in Africa.


Organizational Heirarchy/Levels of positioning.
Heirarchical order, from top to bottom:

1. MUCK - perhaps have experienced multiple universal contractions (have seen multiple big bangs), creator of the artificial intelligence humans ignorantly refer to as "god"
2. Perhaps some mid-level alien management
3. Evil/disfavored aliens - runs day-to-day operations here and perhaps elsewhere

Terrestrial management/positioning:

4. Chinese/egyptians - this may be separated into the eastern and western worlds
5. Romans - The seamless transition between Cleopatra and Julius Ceasar may be a clue alluding to a partnership.
6. Mafia - the real-world 20th century interface that constantly turns over generationally so as to reinforce the widely-held notion of mortality
7. Jews, corporation, women, politician - Evidence exisits to suggest mafia management over all these groups.


Movies foreshadowing catastrophy
1985 James Bond View to a Kill 1989 San Francisco Loma Prieta earthquake.


Our society gives clues to the system in place. We all have heard the saying "He has more money than god." There is also an episode of the Simpsons where god meets Homer and says "I'm too old and rich for this."

This is the system on earth because this is the system everywhere.

20 cent/hour Chinese labor, 50 cents for material.
An $80 sweater costs less than a dollar; tribute kicked upstairs vindicates the creative accounting.

I don't want to suggest the upper eschelons are evil and good is the fringe. But these individuals become wealthy exploiting those they hurt.

They have made it abundantly clear that doing business with evil (disfavored) won't help people. They say only good would have the ear, since evil is struggling for survival, and therefore only the favored could help.

The clues are there which companies are favored and which are disfavored, but they conceal it very hard because it is so crucial.

I offer an example of historical proportions:::

People point to Walmart and cry "anti-union".
Unions enable disfavored people to live satisfactorly without addressing their disfavor. This way their family's problems are never resolved. Without the union they would have to accept the heirarchy, their own inferiority.
Unions serve to empower.
Walmart is anti-union because they are good. They try to help people address and resolve their problems by creating an environment where there are fewer hurdles.

Media ridicule and lawsuits are creations to reinforce people's belief that Walmart is evil in a subsegment of the indistry dominated by the middle and lower classes.
Low-cost disfavored Chinese labor is utilized by corporate america to maximize margins. They all do it. Only WalMart gets fingered because they are the ones who help, and those who seek to create confusion in the marketplace want to eliminate the vast middle class who have a real chance and instead stick with lower classes who may not work otherwise. So they dirty him up while allowing the others to appear clean.

The middle class is being deceived. They are being misled into the unfavored, and subsequently will have no assistance from their purchases with corporate america.

The coining of the term "Uncle Sam" was a clue alluding to just this::Sam Walton's WalMart is one of few saviors of the peasant class.

They desire a system based on duality:::good and evil. They seek to set up a system of two participants and assign them polar opposites:::
Coke and Pepsi (?)
BestBuy and CircutCity
Energizer and Duracell
Republican and Democrat
The list goes on:::
AMD and Intel
Microsoft and Apple (?)
Lowes and HomeDepot
Sam'sClub and Costco
WellsFargo and BofA
Pier1 and CostPlus
Borders and Barnes&Noble
PetCo and PetSmart
And in other cases attempts to eliminate the third competitor failed:::Chrysler, attempts to downgrade Miller beer to low cost like they did Olympia.


Amercia is a country of castoffs, rejects. Italy sent its criminals, malcontents.
Between the thrones, the klans and kindred, they decided who they didn't want and acted, creating discontent and/or starvation.
The u.s. is full of disfavored rejects. It is the reason for the myriad of problems not found in European countries. As far as the Rockafellers and other industrialists of the 19th century go, I suspect these aren't their real names. I suspect they were chosen to go and head this new empire.

Royalty is the correct way to organize a society. Dictatorships and monarchies are a reflection of the antient's hierarchical organization.
Positions go to those who have favor with the rulers, as opposed to being elected.
Elections bring a false sense of how the world is. Democracy misleads people.
Which is why the disfavored rejects were sent to the shores of America::To keep them on the wrong path.


Jewsus Christ is a religious figure of evil. He teaches of a begnign, forgiving god when quite the opposite is true.
The seperatist churches formed so they could capture the rest of the white people, keeping them worshipping the wrong god.
And now they do it to disfavored people of color, Latinos and Asians, after centuries of preying upon them.

Since Buddism doesn't recongnize a god, the calls are never heard, and Asian representation is instead fully selected by the thrones.
Budda was the Asian's Jewsus Christ::: bad for the people. It was a clue they both emerged at the same time. Timing may be a clue alluding to ranking.

Simpson's foreshadowing::Helloween IV special, Flanders is Satan. "Last one you ever suspect."
"You'll see lots of nuns where you're going:::hell!!!" St. Wigham, Helloween VI:::missionary work, destroying cultures.
Over and over, the Simpsons was a source of education and enlightenment, a target of ridicule by the system which wishes to conceal its secrets.

The advent of the modern Christmas was a brilliant move. It creates a vested interest among those who would prefer the Church of Evil be destroyed::::
As goes the Catholic Church so goes the majority of annual retail sales.
The similarity between the names "Santa" and "Satan" is no coincidence.

Jews maim the body formed in the image of "god", and inflicted circumcision upon all other white people.
I think about how Jews (were used to) created homosexuality among Slavics, retribution for the Holocaust.
Then I think of the Catholic Church and its troubles.
What connection is here between Jews and the Catholic church???
If it is their sinister motives that’s behind the evil that is Jesus Christ are they being used at all?
Perhaps it is them who are pulling strings.
Their centuries of slavery in Egypt proves their disfavor.
For their suffering the Jew leaders were granted the right to prey on the up-and-coming Europeans to try to fix their problems with the ruling elite, a recurring aspect of the elite's methodology.
Jews were ostracised for a reason.


Retribution for the atomic bombs dropped on Japan, the Korean War got the disfavored United States into this socially depraved environment in the latter 20th century because we attacked an antient, revered peoples. Our continued presence keeps us in trouble.
When the disfavored americans attack the wrong people again, as they suggested they will, in Korea or elsewhere, they will pay dearly.


All peoples are ranked in terms of favor and disfavor. And when the disfavored abuse those with favor there is hell to pay.
All the groups mentioned throughout are necessary to justify the will of the managing species. They conceive a strategy, devise a plan yet need a way to implement it, and without these groups the managing species would be exposed in the course of execution. So, based upon their rank they are assigned goals to accomplish and are rewarded with favors.
Orlowski Zygmunt
[FONT=Times][SIZE=7][COLOR=blue][URL= http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/?S=A ]My Webpage[/URL]
METOZ will be able to create A NEW KIND OF CLEAN ENERGY.
METOZ IN THEORY IS THE PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE.
My idea is very difficult for understanding. It is not difficult for engineer - mechanic, who knows very good the Pascal’s law and even-arm lever.

THE CLEAN ENERGY
The entire world is looking for a source of clean energy. I have discovered a certain paradox basing on which a machine called METOZ can be built which by harnessing the gravitation of our EARTH can produce clean energy.
The energy producing process is demonstrated in:
http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/paradox.html
and can be very easily confirmed by an experiment.
I am also in possession of a set of calculations which prove that the METOZ machine:
1/ does not consume water / 39 A5-pictures /;
2/ does not consume compressed air / 39 A5-pictures /;
3/ produces energy to the outside = 4 839 kGm during a „swing cycle” /39 A5-pictures /;
/ this is a „weight cycle” = the centre of gravity of the water in the METOZ machine sinks ( downward movement ) /
4/ energy is produced / released to the outside = 44 600 kGm during the „straightening cycle” / 39 A5-pictures /.
/ this is a “pressure cycle” = the water mass centre of gravity inside the METOZ machine travels upwards (upward movement) /
Features: 1/; 2/; 3/; 4/, of the machine owing to appropriate dimensions of individual elements of the lever mechanism.
The METOZ has an even-arm lever of a 1.72 m length. The centre of gravity of the lever lies beneath the lever suspension point. The METOZ is equipped with two cylinders of a 1.6 m diameter each. Piston sidewalls do not contact directly with cylinder walls. The lever swing changes between 0 and 25 dgr
Figures ( 3 x 13 x 4 = 156 ) present temporary, consecutive action situations at intervals of . The middle figure presents the machine and the side figures the position of the left and right cylinder and the mathematical description of these situations.
In the past I have made two models, which confirmed the legitimacy of my theoretical assumptions concerning the METOZ machine. I have got photographs.
I am looking for a person who would be interested in my invention. I can offer ample information. I look forward to hearing from you.

http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/three_levers.html

03 - 08 -2006 Gdynia, Polska Zygmunt Orłowski
P.S. The term “gravitational paradox” use in this description relates to the mathematical and physical description of the action of the METOZ-machine.
THE EARTH GRAVITATION CAN BE THE SOURCE OF CLEAN ENERGY

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By
Orlowski Zygmunt
Poland 2006
index html
COMMENTS CONCERNING MACHINE “METOZ”
“METOZ” is able to realize the cycle “deflection” and the cycle “straighening.” Both cycles are in accordance with current physic’s laws. “METOZ” as machine can not work and hand over the energy because it would be inconsonant to the law of conservation of energy.
I propose to execute the following intelectual process:
we have found ourselves in the Europe of XVII century. We know the trigonometry in the scope of being occured for “METOZ.” We know what is the even-arm lever and moment of force too. Just appeears Mr. Baise Pascal / 1623–1662/ and he publishes his hydraulics law with adequated experiment. All thinkers are sure that this law is correct and quite real. This time someone invents machine “METOZ”. Now turn up the following questions:
1/ why the implementation of the cycle “deflection” is impossible?
2/ why the implementation of the cycle “straightening” is impossible?Both groups: opponents and followers of bulding “METOZ” live in XVII–th century and they not know that:
a/ the idea of an “energy” will be introduced into science scarlerly in mid. of XIX century,
b/ the law of conservation of the energy will be exist scarlerly after 1847 y.
QVESTION!!!
WHAT KIND OF RATIONALY ENTERELY / ARGUMENT/ CAN BE DREAMED UP THE OPPONENTS OF BUILDING THE MACHINE “METOZ’ IN XVII CENTURY.
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Please open GOOgle and klick metozor and after : index of metozor At is site that explains technical details in easy to understand language. example : http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/for_greenpeace.html or
http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/energy_for_everybody.html
Everyone is able to build just the model of METOZ machine and test it. Please, have a look at http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/supplement.html Perhaps METOZ is some duplicating machine of a clean energy.
I am inventor and owner of Metoz machine invention. Everyone can take absolutely and legitimate the METOZ invention and build the Metoz machine. I can help only. I can not build METOZ. I am moneyless. Thank you for your time and interest.

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