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The Heaviside Signal

An alternative view of the transverse electromagnetic wave.
By Ivor Catt
(First published in Wireless World, July 1979)


This article proposes a different picture of electromagnetic propagation from the familiar “rolling wave” idea in which electric and magnetic fields topple over and forward, continually changing into each other as they go. The author postulates “an unchanging slab of E x H energy current” travelling forward at the speed of light, and names it “the |Heaviside signal” after a concept expressed in the writings of Oliver Heaviside. This process does not rely on a causal relationship between the electric and magnetic fields, which are seen as co-existent.

Maxwell faced up to the paradox that whereas electric circuits, in order to function properly by allowing the passage of electric current, were thought to require a complete closed circuit of conductors, electric current still seemed to flow for a time when a capacitor (which of course is an open circuit) was placed in series with the closed loop of conductors. He “cut the Gordian knot” (according to Heaviside in his Electromagnetic Theory, 1893, London, p28 sect 30) by postulating that a new kind of current, which he called “displacement current”, leapt across the plates within the capacitor. This electric current, which was uniformly distributed in the space between the capacitor plates, could even flow through a vacuum.

Maxwell followed up this daring idea by suggesting that electromagnetic waves might exist in space. Scepticism about his postulated “displacement current” was silenced in 1887 when Hertz discovered the predicted waves in space. The classic pre-Popperian requirement of a good scientific theory seemed to have been met – the prediction of further results which are later confirmed by experiment.

There are two versions of the transverse electromagnetic wave, the “rolling wave”, and what we shall call here the “Heaviside signal.” We shall discuss only the wide variety of views among those who believe (with the relativists) that there is no instantaneous action at a distance.

The rolling wave
The lack of action at a distance creates a fundamental difficulty for the wave in space if it is to be launched by a force in the direction of propagation. The key to the ability of a force to project a wave is that there is a pressure difference between two points along the line of propagation. However, knowledge of a difference in pressure between two points A and B which are separated by distance implies instantaneous knowledge at B of the pressure at A; that is, instantaneous action at a distance, which has been outlawed.

This dilemma seems to be overcome if it is postulated that the force which projects the wave is a lateral, shear, force. It seems that a shear force can act at a point, and so not contradict relativity whereas a longitudinal force cannot.

The above king of reasoning, combined with the postulation of displacement current, which seemed to flow at right angles to the direction of propagation, joined forces to create the notion of the rolling wave. The rolling wave contains alternating concentrations of magnetic energy ½mH2 and electric energy ½eE2 in the direction of propagation. It is useful to think of a road with alternate red trucks and white motor cars. The magnetic energy or flux (by Faraday’s law of induction) generates electric energy and displacement current ahead of itself, which in turn (by the Biot-Savart Law) generates magnetic flux, or energy, ahead of itself. Each type of energy, or flux, topples over and forward, changing as it topples into the other kind of energy. It is as though in the road containing the alternate red trucks and white cars, first the red trucks reappear as white cars a little further ahead while at the same time the white cars turn into red trucks a little further ahead; then the cars and trucks change back again, moving forward a little with each metamorphosis. The analogy with the pendulum has been proposed. One can think of a long line of pendulums, alternate ones having potential energy and kinetic energy, and communicating their energy forward step by step with a change of type of energy at each one.

The Heaviside Signal

Opposed to the rolling wave is what we have called the Heaviside signal. The most highly developed form of this view is that at any point in space, an electromagnetic signal contains one kind of energy only, which is equal to the product of E and H at that point, where

E/H = ./(m/e) Energy density = EH/c

Further, the Heaviside signal always travels forward unchanged at the speed of light c = 1/ [./(me)] , and never any slower. E, H and c are always mutually perpendicular.

The two men most likely to understand the “Heaviside signal” point of view and to oppose the “rolling wave” were Oliver Heaviside himself, in honour of whom it has been given its name, and Poynting, the man whose name is attached to the vector E x H. However, their writings show that neither man arrived at a full understanding of the Heaviside signal described in the previous paragraph.

Heaviside vacillated between the two views, the rolling wave and the Heaviside signal. He always applauded the idea of displacement current, which appears to put him on the side of the rolling wave. Further, on page 6, art. 453 of volume 3 of his “Electromagnetic Theory”, when he says that the curl of E, not E itself, is the real source of the waves, he is again arguing for the rolling wave. Curliness is obviously a bid for shear, vorticular forces, a concept intrinsic to the rolling wave. However, elsewhere he seems to stand firmly for the Heaviside signal. For instance (ibid, art. 451, page 4), he says, “It carries all its properties with it unchanged,” which is a clear statement of the Heaviside signal. Heaviside mentions the slab elsewhere in his writings. One does not conceive of slabs rolling, or generating shear forces or stresses. Almost by definition, a slab, like a slab of heavy granite, moves forward unchanged at constant velocity.

Professor Poynting, who first suggested that energy was distributed in space with a density E x H, also had a partial vision of the Heaviside signal. He definitely did not know that E is always perpendicular to H, and that the x in ExH means simply multiplication. (He had a term sinq for the angle between them.) Poynting was writing before the general agreement that light is electromagnetic, and so he did not know that this Poynting energy always moved forward (in the third dimension) at a constant speed, 1/ [./(me)], the velocity of light in the medium.

Poynting had a very good grasp of the direction of energy flow and its magnitude, but did not seem to understand the importance of reflections at a change of medium, which leads one to think of energy current ExH flowing backwards along the previous path, passing through the next portion of forwards travelling energy current. This superposition of forward and backward energy currents (implicit in the phrases “phase velocity” and “group velocity”) has prevented a clear understanding of the electromagnetic wave.

For fifty years, technology did not give us the power to drive the medium with an electromagnetic signal. With the low power at our disposal, all we could do was resonate the medium with periodic (sinusoidal) excitation in the same way as we move a child on a swing. In a resonant medium, energy is necessarily flowing in both directions; most of the forward energy returns to aid the source on the next cycle.

Our inability to drive a medium except periodically insinuated itself into our group psyche, until we came to assert that nature was periodic (and even that it was sinusoidal). Implicit in this view were the wrong beliefs that

(1) electromagnetic energy is necessarily contrapuntal,

(2) E/H = ./(m/e) is not always true, (e.g. when two waves are passing through each other so that H cancels but E does not, so that E/H = infinity ), and

(3) Signals can travel slower than the speed of light 1/[./(me)] .

The absurdity of this third idea is easy to demonstrate if we consider a two directional highway. If all cars move at 60 m.p.h. but some (A per hour) move eastwards and some (B per hour) move westwards, no one would argue that the total passage of cars eastwards per hour pas a reference point, that is, (A-B), would help us to determine the velocity of cars by the formula

Flow of cars = (A-B) per hour

Distance between cars = L

Therefore velocity of cars = (A-B)L m.p.h.

However, this seems to be done, at least subconsciously, with phase velocity and group velocity. The very terms imply some such calculation.

Some ten years ago the successful manufacture of high speed (1ns) logic elements capable of driving a 100 ohm load made it possible, for the first time for fifty years, to drive a medium rather than gently resonate it, as a matter of normal routine. Those driving a high speed logic step could clearly see it travelling at the speed of light for the dielectric (never any slower) and remaining unchanged on its journey. For the first time for seventy years, high speed digital engineers were privileged to see the Heaviside signal, an unchanging slab of ExH energy current guided between two conductors from one logic gate to the next. Reflections were prevented by proper termination at the destination, so that notions of phase velocity and group velocity evaporated. We saw a slab of energy launched from one pint, travelling unaltered, to be absorbed by the terminating resistor at the destination.

At this point we just had to unburden ourselves at the theoretical level of implicit contrapuntal notions. A beautiful vision resulted, of a lateral strain ExH (where E/H = ./(m/e) which by definition travelled forward at velocity 1/ [./(me)].) As it travelled forward it filled (or probed) the space ahead of it in the same way as the ripples on the surface of a pond will fill the space (surface) as they come to it. Logic designers maintained a near constant aspect ratio in the space ahead, because whenever this slab came to a change in aspect ratio ( = change of characteristic impedance, better termed characteristic resistance) some of the energy could double back on its tracks according to the well-known laws of reflection. However, this did not lead back to the old “phase velocity” and “group velocity” notions; rather, the slab of energy current split into two slabs, one to continue forward and the other to return, both slabs continuing to probe, or fill, the space presented to them on their journeys.

The Heaviside signal offers us a dramatic simplification of our view of the fundamentals of electromagnetic theory.

(Ivor Catt kindly gave permission for this to be included here)









Confused2

Please note this is Catt's theory because that is Ivor Catt's name - any connection with other cat states is purely coincidental and no humour is intended.

The point of particular interest (to me) is that the theory does away with the nightmare of sinewaves everywhere. When moving from a field description of EM to a photon description - Ivor Catt's theory removes the need to explain where a photon hides the 'wriggly bits' that arise from the 'sinewave' solution to Maxwell's equations.

One of the problems with the theory may arise from the way the normal 'first move' is to attempt to turn the wavefront back into a sum of sinewaves - thereby reintroducing gain and phase velocity as an artifact of the chosen method of analysis.

With luck Mr Catt will be willing to deal with any questions that may arise.

Many thanks to Ivor Catt for what I regard as a brilliant insight into the nature of EM phenomenon and for allowing me to present his theory here.


-Confused2.
Nick
My two cents: light is a dual wave; a wave of electricty at right angles to a wave of magnetism.

I believe light inflation and a changing form of light is the future of physics. Action at a distance becomes a problem when a very low energy photon is emitted. If light is to be local then light waves must form. The larger the light wave the longer it will take. Imagine a light year photon were emitted. It could not instantaneously appear if we do not believe in action at a distance. Such a large photon would take a year to form. This means there is pre-formed light. Light must grow and this growth I call inflation. Others might just as well call it light expansion.

The problem is in understanding that light's energy is always conserved even in this pre-form.
Nick
Light's energy density expands.
Zephir
Well, the light spreading looks pretty much like the deformation of the soft massive foam, it's the easiest explanation of the tranversal electrical and magnetical field combination...
But it's required to be multidimensional, to explain things like the light wave spin.

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Confused2
Hello Nick, Zephir and possibly Ivor,

Nick - Imagine having a battery containing only sufficient energy to transmit a single light year long photon. We connect the battery to our light year long photon transmitter. To me it would seem that the photon cannot leave until all the energy is out of the battery and it cannot stay after that time - is it possible it just goes 'ping' after about a year?

Zephir - the sinewavey thing is what makes most sense to me - I hate to ask this but you have posted it here.. are you drawing a single photon here? Is it possible that the slow start and finish are a consequence of the way you created your pulse rather than the actual mechanism of transmission?

Best wishes, John.
Zephir
QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 21 2006, 11:46 PM)
..are you drawing a single photon here..

I'm drawing the equipotential shape vs. time. The photon looks like the wave pocket, as the light wave is interfering with it's density wave (see the applet). See the light spreading animation (or video at better resolution linked bellow).

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Guest_Confused2
Hi Zephir,

QUOTE

The photon looks like the wave packet


I agree that (almost) every book on electronics will predispose you in this direction because it makes the maths (fourier analysis) so much nicer but beyond that do you have any actual evidence?

Best wishes, Confused2.

Zephir
QUOTE (Guest_Confused2+Jan 22 2006, 12:29 AM)
do you have any actual evidence?

The wave-pocket character of light is the more pronounced, the higher is the photon energy (the wavelength is comparable with the space-time fabric at the Planck scale 10-35 m). From this reason, the gamma/cosmic ray photons are spreading like particles, which is clearly observable in so called scintillation effect (from the Greek word for spark, scintilla). The Compton's scattering is the other evidence of the particle character of light at the higher frequencies (i.e. X-ray and above..)
Confused2
Hi Zephir,

I'm asking a favour here.. this is the best I can find .. have a play with the single pulse applet and see if you can make a picture very similar to yours .. I'm around for an hour or so.. post when played..?

http://cnyack.homestead.com/files/afourtr/foutr1.htm

Best wishes, C2.
Confused2
a= -0.6 b=-0.6 c=0.0 d=0.0 e = 0.3 f= 0.1 hgain = 9.9 vgain = 4.5

just about does it for me.

As you can see.. this is the fourier transform of a pulse..

???
Confused2
The point of Catt's theory seems to be that a pulse can (and does) propagate as a pulse - nothing is required to prepare the ground ahead of it and nothing is required behind to clear up after it.

I think Ivor has some supporting evidence for this.
Zephir
QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 22 2006, 01:22 AM)
... if you can make a picture very similar to yours .. I'm around for an hour or so.. post when played...

I'm not very sure, If I understand well, what u want - do you need a create an animated screenshot of applet linked above?

QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 22 2006, 01:22 AM)
...The Heaviside signal offers us a dramatic simplification of our view of the fundamentals of electromagnetic theory...

The EMG is a sort of gravity wave passing through space via quantum loops through 6D convoluted space, simmilar to the model of propagation of the pulse through cars traffic. I have used such model for explaining the slowening of the light wave inside of massive solids. A part of energy transfer is spreaded to the perpendicular motion of the quantum loops inside of Aether forming the mass (the Aether appears a more convoluted here due to the "deeper" level of torsion deformation of it), so that the overall speed of light decreases. It a simply result of the longer light path inside of more complex (i.e. deeper convoluted) vacuum fluctuations inside of mass.

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Confused2
Hi Zephir,

The point about the fourier applet (possibly) is to show that you have a range of frequencies in your photon - and photons are normally only supposed to contain one frequency. Catt's theory (so far) makes no statement about photons - only about fields - but it does offer the hope of a model of a photon that doesn't involve (at the very least)..
'this is me coming'
'here I am'
'this is me going again'
Where 'this is me coming' is always ahead of the photon itself.

There is the same problem with 'conventional' EM wavefronts where it seems they always need something in front of themselves to propagate.

Catt theory suggests that there is nothing ahead of the wavefront. It would be good to hear from Ivor about the experimental evidence he already has and perhaps experiments he feels should be done.

With all due respect EMG is looking like Zephir theory. Catt theory has already been ignored for the last 25 years - would it be OK to use this thread to give Catt theory a fair hearing?

Best wishes, C2.


Zephir
QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 23 2006, 12:07 AM)
Catt theory has already been ignored for the last 25 years...

Yes, such insight can be very useful from practical point of view. I've just tried to define the common points between the Catt's and Aether Wave Theory.

I'm dealing with the most general aspects of TOE, but no tangible progress is possible without such more detailed insights, which can be very useful in particular situations. There is a deep synergy between the general and specific insights due to the fractal nature of Universe.

It's similar to the mapping of the Mars surface. We can have a general understanding of its nature, weight, albedo etc., but it must be photographed in detail from all the sides for completeness.
Confused2
Unfortunately it seems Ivor Catt has decided not to make any contribution to this forum. Unless someone qualified to continue this thread emerges from the woodwork that would appear to be 'it'. C'est la vie.

Anyone wishing to find out more about his theory can do so at
http://ivorcatt.com/em.htm
Zephir
QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 23 2006, 03:16 PM)
Anyone wishing to find out more about his theory can do so at
http://ivorcatt.com/em.htm

Well, the problem is, such topic will disappear a quite quickly together with the link, you've supplied... dry.gif It contains a very interesting insight.
Forrest Bishop
QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 23 2006, 12:16 PM)
Unfortunately it seems Ivor Catt has decided not to make any contribution to this forum. Unless someone qualified to continue this thread emerges from the woodwork that would appear to be 'it'. C'est la vie.


Hi, Ivor directed me to this forum, he's busy with other things. It appears to have only started up two days ago, so I doubt this is 'it' just yet. Thank you for starting it up. --Forrest of the Woodwork
Confused2
Hi Forrest Bishop,

Welcome smile.gif !

I spoke too soon.. can you see how the velocity of light drops in (or out of) Ivor's theory?

Best wishes, C2.

Edit .. I copied Ivor's typos when I copied the thread starter - I can't find a typo free version - can anyone help? PM me with it and I can edit it in.
Forrest Bishop
QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 23 2006, 09:11 PM)
Hi Forrest Bishop,

Welcome smile.gif !

I spoke too soon.. can you see how the velocity of light drops in (or out of) Ivor's theory?

Best wishes, C2.

Edit .. I copied Ivor's typos when I copied the thread starter - I can't find a typo free version - can anyone help? PM me with it and I can edit it in.

The speed of light is not an upper limit, nor is it a lower limit: it is the only speed possible. See "Constant Velocity" essay at IC. This is more a working hypothesis than an established fact. We know for example that static fields are illusory and composed of counterpropagating TEM waves (steps, that is); the constant velocity hypothesis is the generalization of that adduction.

Confused2
Hi Forrest Bishop,

Let's not play cat and mouse games here - I want to understand! Ivor's search engine takes me into google .. sad.gif

You can put a link just by copying the address.. thus
http://ivorcatt.com/em.htm

Please..?

Best wishes, - C2.
Forrest Bishop
QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 23 2006, 09:50 PM)
Hi Forrest Bishop,

Let's not play cat and mouse games here - I want to understand! Ivor's search engine takes me into google .. sad.gif

You can put a link just by copying the address.. thus
http://ivorcatt.com/em.htm

Please..?

Best wishes, - C2.

I'm not playing games, sir, just short on time. Catt's site is clumsy to get around, I'm still finding new stuff on it. At some point I 'll add my own version of a Catt index on my new EM site, still in the works.
this is one of the better indices-
http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/indexe.htm

I see I was saying 'constant velocity' instead of 'single velocity'-

http://www.ivorcatt.com/2615.htm

Cheers,

Forrest

--Forrest Bishop
Chairman,
Institute of Atomic-Scale Engineering
www.iase.cc
Forrest Bishop
QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 23 2006, 09:50 PM)
Hi Forrest Bishop,

... I want to understand!...

Best wishes, - C2.


A portion of an exchange with Geoff Landis, from October 13, 2005. This is a far as 'boiled down' as I've gotten so far.

1) Philosophy and Assertions, of Theory N
GL: A lot of your response consists of assertions… Thus: my discussion is entirely about solving the problem with conventional electromagnetic theory. This involves solving the math. I snipped your various different words about "philosophy" and assertions about physics because they do not contribute to the question at hand: solving the math.

FB: Yes, but. Theory N also has quite a few *assertions built into the math*, many of which are vacuous, contradictory and unwarranted. Some of these assertions behind the math of conventional electromagnetic theory are the topic of the Catt Question, particularly the part about sweeping the mass of the electron under the rug.
‘Mathematicism’ is a branch of ‘Phenomenologicalism’- the utilitarian philosophy that if a model yields good results, it is a good model. I’m not entirely adverse to this, particularly for non-social engineering applications, except when we discover that the model has flawed assumptions and untenable conclusions. The Ptolemaic/Copernican revolution is an iconic example- though ‘Theory Pt’ was quite advanced and useful for celestial prediction in its day we cannot use the epicycles for reliable spacecraft navigation.
Theory N, or conventional electromagnetic theory, is an accretion and amalgamation of several historical accidents. The electrons-in-wire-is-electric-current idea (EWEC) came from earlier, phlogiston-like hypotheses of one or two fluids flowing inside the wire. This is a useful model for things like Ohm-Kirchhoff-Thevenin-style lumped-element circuit analysis. The math encodes that philosophy and the assertions (assumptions). These are the things being revised or extended by Theory C++.
Maxwell’s equations, as Catt emphasizes, are not directly involved in the EWEC, they came much earlier (ca. 1880’s, depending on how you count), before electrons (1897), their mass, and charge/mass ratio (1909) were discovered. So the EWEC was grafted on to Theory N during the 20th Century as a sort of afterthought, with the massive incongruities buried in the math.
In Theory N, we assert that we can write P = VI, I = Q/t, Ploss = I^2R, V = IR, “what goes in must come out”, and so on, and get a reliable model. We assume I = Q/t refers to the moving electrons, since we can count how many electrons drift past a given plane cutting through a conductor. The mass of the electron is irrelevant, except when it isn’t.
We assert that the voltage difference, caused somehow by the EWEC, between the upper and lower rails, sets up a transverse electric field, which we can ignore. We assert that static magnetic fields encircle the conductors, as a result of the EWEC, except sometimes when it is the other way around. For circuit analysis, we can just ignore the transient conditions.
We assert that c, mu|o (mu-subscript-o) and epsilon|o are the fundamental constants of interest.
We, Jackson, et al, assert that the various versions of the integral or differential Maxwell equations, together with the Heaviside-Lorentz relation, capture all the classical phenomena of interest, which can always be decomposed into sine waves, spherical harmonics, and the other things of a beautiful, mathematical, symmetry…

2) Philosophy and Assertions, of Theory C
“Now, in Maxwell’s theory there is the potential energy of the displacement produced in the dielectric parts by the electric force, and there is the kinetic or magnetic energy of the magnetic induction due to the magnetic force in all parts of the field, including the conduction parts. They are supposed to be set up by the current in the wire. *We reverse this; the current in the wire is set up by the energy transmitted through the medium around it*…”- Oliver Heaviside, 1892 (emphasis on causality added)
We assert that the transverse electromagnetic wave (TEM wave), propagating at ‘Mach 1’ = c, through the constant aethereal impedance of Zo = ~377 Ohms, is the fundamental entity that transmits most, if not all, energy and information. The TEM wave is a shock-wave slab of energy-current, obstructed or otherwise- a half-cycle square wave in the time domain. This replaces the sinusoidal photon of occasional properties.
These two fundamental constants, c and Zo, are ‘reciprocal’ to the permittivity and permeability of the aether: permittivity eps|o = c^-1 * Zo^-1 and permeability mu|o = c^-1 * Zo. These properties in turn are manifest in the orthogonal transverse axes of the TEM wave, and back.
We assert that the 19th Century concept of a rail-to-rail TEM wave guided by the two conductors, as a train is guided by the two rails of a railroad track, is closer to the truth than is the electron-photon picture. Resistance heats up the wires, outside to inside, like rolling-resistance to the train’s movement heats up the train-track rails.
We assert that the flow of electrons in a wire can no more be responsible for electricity than water on the ground can cause rain.
We muse that the height of a hill, h, points to a fact- an aspect of objective reality, of matter piled up. The slope of a hill, dh/dx, points to an opinion- a cognitive state of the modeler, an idea of which matter is next to what. Each concatenated mathematical transformation applied to an original, objective fact moves the imaginary model further toward the rear of Plato’s cave. --partly after Ivor Catt
We assert that the basement relations for Maxwell’s equations contain no useful information. dE/dx = -dB/dt and dB/dx = dE/dt have no causality, and little descriptive power. They say that the height of a sloped, moving object is proportional to the rate of change of the other, transverse-axis slope of the same moving object, which is a trivial observation. E can no more cause B than the length of a brick can cause its width. These enigmatic equations, once thought to be the crowning achievement of modern physics, are little more than a cipher, wrapped inside a void… --after Ivor Catt

from October 22, 2005-
Assertions and Hypotheses of Theory N (con't):
a) The electric and magnetic fields between the wires are static.
cool.gif The electric field 'lines' or 'tubes' terminate on things in the wire called "electric charges".
c) A field line from a positive charge terminates on a negative charge, and vice versa. This collection of discrete “charges” is called a
“surface charge density”, and is in partial conflict with the “electrification” hypothesis.
d) Charge is conserved.
e) The charges can only move slower than the speed of light.
f) The electron, proton, etc. are points of charge, mass, etc., except sometimes when they feel like being waves. Other little Epsilon
point-wave gears and levers rattle around inside to help glue a crank theory together.

(concerning the two-wire transmission line)-

Assertions and Hypotheses of Theory C (con't):
a) The electric and magnetic fields are dynamic cross-components of the TEM wave. All components of the fields move at the speed of light (or
c/n) at all times. This is the hypothesis comparable to Copernicus's. The repercussions are across the board.
cool.gif The TEM wave is all. A redirection (annihilation/creation) of the TEM wave creates the illusion of "electric charge" distribution on the
surface of the wire, which Heaviside calls "electrification".
c) ,d) The electric field (and the magnetic) of the TEM wave has directionality. One direction is called "positive" and the other direction is
called "negative". Charge conservation is simply a restatement of the fact that a line has two endpoints- one on each wire. The more advanced
concept includes the rest of the electric and magnetic field or flux lines (curve), which close back on themselves. Then 'positive' and
'negative' only refer to the two directions along a curve, not its endpoints. Then divE = 0 always.
e) "Electrification" (surface-charge density) can appear to move at any speed, from 0 to <infinity, depending on the angle the TEM wave makes
with the conductor surface. When the grazing angle becomes zero, and the electric flux is perpendicular to the surface, it is called
"electricity", and moves at “c”- the speed of light in the dielectric medium between the wires. This appears to be ~lost knowledge.


".... Charge conservation is simply a restatement of the fact that a line has two endpoints- one on each wire....." - Forrest

"This is an elegant contribution.
Any pencil line has two ends. However, the two ends do not exist. However, it remains true that a line (which does exist) must have two ends." --Ivor Catt, 10/23/05



Confused2
Hi Forrest and anyone else interested,

Many thanks..

QUOTE

We assert that the transverse electromagnetic wave (TEM wave), propagating at ‘Mach 1’ = c, through the constant aethereal impedance of Zo = ~377 Ohms, is the fundamental entity that transmits most, if not all, energy and information. The TEM wave is a shock-wave slab of energy-current, obstructed or otherwise- a half-cycle square wave in the time domain. This replaces the sinusoidal photon of occasional properties.


Clarification please - have we really moved from transmission lines into free space? Is this Ivor 'asserting' or a C++ assertion by someone else about a consequence of original Catt theory?

Perhaps the most interesting bit, to me..

a half-cycle square wave in the time domain... replaces the sinusoidal photon of occasional properties

The 'normal' ph34r.gif approach to such a pulse would be to transform it into the freqency domain mad.gif - apply some sort of notional filter blink.gif - and say it is a clump of sinewaves tongue.gif . On a really bad day it will get transformed back into the time domain as a travesty of it's 'real' self sad.gif . Am I along the right lines here?

Theory C (or C++) seems to suggest that free space has infinite bandwidth - at least to the point where electron positron pair production becomes the mechanism of loss - effectively infinite bandwidth ohmy.gif (space doesn't care about unsure.gif frequency) is that a fair conclusion?

Best wishes, Confused2.
Guest_Forrest Bishop
QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 24 2006, 11:12 AM)
Hi Forrest and anyone else interested,

Many thanks..


Clarification please - have we really moved from transmission lines into free space? Is this Ivor 'asserting' or a C++ assertion by someone else about a consequence of original Catt theory?

Perhaps the most interesting bit, to me..

a half-cycle square wave in the time domain... replaces the sinusoidal photon of occasional properties

The 'normal' :ph34r: approach to such a pulse would be to transform it into the frequency domain :angry: - apply some sort of notional filter :blink: - and say it is a clump of sinewaves :P . On a really bad day it will get transformed back into the time domain as a travesty of it's 'real' self :( . Am I along the right lines here?

Theory C (or C++) seems to suggest that free space has infinite bandwidth - at least to the point where electron positron pair production becomes the mechanism of loss - effectively infinite bandwidth :o (space doesn't care about :unsure: frequency) is that a fair conclusion?

Best wishes, Confused2.

Attempt to answer-
Energy current, or Poynting energy flow, always moves through free space. When it is guided by two 'conductors', we call it 'electric current', though this term is misleading. ALL 'electric circuits' are transmission lines. All components- L, C, R, etc are also transmission lines. The reason is simple: all signals propagate at a finite speed.
(I'm using single quotes to refer back to old Theory N(ormal) concepts, which don't carry over in quite the same way to Theory C(att), which is an extension and revision of Theory H(eaviside)). Theory C++ refers to Forrest Bishop's extension of Theory C, which is work in progress.
The 'electric circuit' *effect* is the result of one-way, or counter propagating, energy current(s). There is no 'circuit', this is an illusion. Entities (electrons) in Theory N go around in circles (e.g. Thevinin), in Theory C they (TEM waves) go back and forth, reciprocating between elements. An elaborate electrical array, such as a microcontroller, is a network of such transmission lines.
The application of the Fourier transform introduces all sorts of math artifacts (your "travesty"), which is part of what "unwarranted" refers to. Ivor didn't like the 'time domain' reference, I'm dropping it in the rewrite as it is diversionary.

The central point is this: all parts of a TEM wave are "elsewhere" to all other parts. The longitudinal thickness of the primitive TEM wave, or "TEM wafer" (Catt) therefore approaches zero. We don't know how close that approach is. This creates a contradiction with the photon hypothesis, and with antenna radiation. The photon already appears to have been experimentally falsified, by Reiter's demonstration of "frequency conservation. unquantum.com

I think everything in the quoted is original to Catt, and to Heaviside.

We don't know what the bandwidth of the luminiferous aether is, it varies depending on which flavor of gravity, cosmology, etc. As an interesting point to ponder- we don't know exactly what the lower limit is either, zero being an exact claim.

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The central point is this: all parts of a TEM wave are "elsewhere" to all other parts. The longitudinal thickness of the primitive TEM wave, or "TEM wafer" (Catt) therefore approaches zero.


Imagine we have two wires glued to the rubber bit of a bicycle tyre, the wires follow the radius of the wheel from (say) the top down to the bottom. We have a battery and switch at the top and a bulb at the bottom. We close the switch, experimentally we know (?) the bulb will light after (roughly) pi * r * c seconds. My problem is that the wavefront, as I understand the description, would be compelled to travel at the velocity of light.. which clearly does not follow the radius of the wheel.
-C2.

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QUOTE (Confused2+Jan 25 2006, 10:13 AM)

Imagine we have two wires glued to the rubber bit of a bicycle tyre, the wires follow the radius of the wheel from (say) the top down to the bottom. We have a battery and switch at the top and a bulb at the bottom. We close the switch, experimentally we know (?) the bulb will light after (roughly) pi * r * c seconds. My problem is that the wavefront, as I understand the description, would be compelled to travel at the velocity of light.. which clearly does not follow the radius of the wheel.
-C2.

I'm guessing, from your formula, you mean that the two wires go around circumferentially, not along the diameters. Restating as- one wire goes halfway around the circumference ccw, and the other goes halfway around cw, and they meet at the diametrical opposite place, where they terminate in the load (the bulb). This is a harder problem than the two parallel wires one. The TEM wave crosses across the area of the wheel, and partly outside it. Its terminations are on each of the two wires, as usual. The load receives the *beginning of* the signal at your time = t1 = pi * r * c .
This problem entails a continuous change of impedance, which is a geometric property (assuming constant dielectric material). At each incremental change, part of the TEM wave reflects backwards, and then back again. So the initial step gets spread out. This keeps the middle part of the wave from arriving ahead of the circumferential part.
This example is emblematic of household wiring- the _energy current_ that reaches the filament of the light bulb travels through the air in the room, with one end of the E-field lines terminating on the ground wiring, and the other end on the hot wire. The energy current then 'scrunches down', and enters the filament *sideways*, from the space around it, not from the 'conducting' wires, which are only there to guide, as rails guides a train. This train, however, can easily change its guage (the geometry of the impedance), though that involves multiple reflections. Heaviside goes into this extensively. --Forrest Bishop
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Moving on fron simple transmission line theory is seems..

In March 1979, Catt, Walton, and Davidson published an article in Wireless World.

Catt claimed to have solved the paradox of electron spin by saying an electron is a trapped Heaviside energy current. His theory implies that gravitation traps the energy, like the bending of light by gravity. He then predicted that the size of the electron is then similar to a black-hole, far smaller than the Planck size suggested by "string theory". To test this, the gravity strength resulting from Catt's work can be calculated, and it appears correct.

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and it appears correct


I hope I am well enough known within this site that my mistakes are at least made with some integrity, I do not seek to deceive.

As a 'forum' we could wait until someone stumbles over something interesting or we could do it now. Full enquiry, full search, find all all papers, everything. Unfortunately Heim has passed away, time doesn't matter. We can find these Catt papers, he might even help, and we still have a chance to ask Catt what he meant..

-C2.
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There is more to Catt theory then I had imagined.

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(Forrest in the context of wavefront)
Ivor didn't like the 'time domain' reference, I'm dropping it in the rewrite as it is diversionary.


I'm sorry - I don't understand how the time domain can be considered diversionary in the context of a wavefront - can you explain please?
Guest_Forrest Bishop
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I'm sorry - I don't understand how the time domain can be considered diversionary in the context of a wavefront - can you explain please?

"time domain" immediately invokes an image of transformation, usually Fourier, wavelet, etc. Then the Theory N practitioner might say 'ah! here's some traction'. In reality, these math operations 1) divert from the physics under consideration and 2) even worse, cover it up and create unwarranted artifacts. It was a piece of electrical engineerese tossed in to sound erudite. sorry.
I work in a space consisting of three (3) dimensions, with physical processes occuring over time, which is not even remotely a dimension. I don't 'do' transforms into alternate dimensions; I haven't seen anything like that from Catt either.
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Moving on fron simple transmission line theory is seems..

In March 1979, Catt, Walton, and Davidson published an article in Wireless World.

Catt claimed to have solved the paradox of electron spin by saying an electron is a trapped Heaviside energy current. His theory implies that gravitation traps the energy, like the bending of light by gravity. He then predicted that the size of the electron is then similar to a black-hole, far smaller than the Planck size suggested by "string theory". To test this, the gravity strength resulting from Catt's work can be calculated, and it appears correct.

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The above misrepresents my ideas. Please be careful to check my writings to be sure I actually say things attributed to me by Nigel Cook and others.
Ivor Catt

Thanks to Forrest Bishop, the number of my books on the www has been doubled to about eight on electromagnetic theory. See
http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/BKLIST.htm and
http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/61.htm

If only many of you would write to Lord Rees after reading the following two web pages, (and contact the media about it), we might move forward in science. We will certainly advance our unserstanding of the Sociology of Science, since the present situation is unprecedented.
http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/66.htm
http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/66b.htm
Ivor
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To: ADMIN,

I'd just like to point out that Ivor Catt's theories are the topic discussed in this thread and are in no way a commercial activity .. quite the reverse. In general Ivor Catt's books are published in full on the web and can be read without payment. See the references he has given .. I'll post any he might have missed.


To:IVOR CATT

Many thanks for your post.

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To Ivor Catt,

Sorry for my less than gracious welcome .. your first post on the site as well. I just thought I needed to make the situation to clear to the site administration.

I am delighted you have finally 'appeared' .. and can be shown to be 'real'.

Many thanks and my best wishes to you,

John (C2)


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To refresh memories..

http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/catanoi.htm

is a good place to start.

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