http://www.physorg.com/news93862605.html

You can....rip a CD for your personal use, when you have paid for it. It shouldn't be something you rip again for your friend, giving it away. It shouldn't be something abused. Piracy is not allowed on the open seas, and I don't believe it is something we should do because no one is looking. Theft is theft, you know?
Stealing is not a good thing to get into. I have never ripped a movie CD. I buy them and watch them occasionally. I have loaned a few to my family but rarely do they want to watch my movies. They have more than I do anyway. I'm a moderate. (except with books) who needs little to be happy.

If stealing from the hollywood power brokers makes a person happy, you should get real. You never put yourself in the place of those people who are being stolen from? They have rights too. If you envy them then...maybe you should change the way you do things and get into a money racket. The thing about stealing is, you know you are doing it and that it is basically wrong. You may self-sabotage...because you know what you are taking didn't cost anything, and had a value number on it for so many.

You may be thinking that I have no right to tell anyone what to do, and I am not telling anyone what to do, but what I think about what they are doing. I personally think you should pay like the rest of us who pay for what we have. I think pirating films is theft. And that theft is basically wrong, and you may even have a subliminal thing come up over it and block your own happiness in other areas. I could be wrong, but it gets deep. The guy there with hundreds of stolen movies, do you boast about it? "I didn't have to pay for even one of them!" Then later on you wonder why you can't get into a real honest-to-goodness caring, lasting relationship with a good woman?.

Would you want a cleptomaniac girlfriend who had a closet full of shoes that she managed to get "at a huge discount" paying like 2.00 for 200.00 shoes, by having a friend working in shoes at Macy's? Would you want her CD collection to have been stolen from the local music shop? Would you gaurd her while she tucked them under her jacket? (I know ~depends on how "hawt" right?)
I don't know...to me stealing is stealing, I don't care how clever you are about it OR how easy it is to do. You have to look at yourself in the mirror... to me, it's best to see a completely honest person looking back.

well it makes me happy!

All these legal issues depend heavily on the country you consider.

Artists needing a reward: Certainly.
But what about the industry that lived from reproducing physically the work? It draws much more money than the artists and isn't needed any more thanks to technological changes. It is my opinion that law shouldn't protect this now useless industry that costs the customer money.

An extreme example: The Sacem, an artists' syndicate in France. It collects tolls from art consumers pretending to have a monopoly, wastes most of it internally and distributes a small part to its members. Music scores editors are members and manage to become copyrights for printing works from long dead composers. The Sacem makes trials to music schools who photocopy the music scores.

In such a case, I wouldn't consider a rip or a photocopy as theft.

The industry always grossly overestimates the amount of money it loses through piracy. Most people who rip a game, CD or DVD wouldn't have paid for the product, so the money has not been lost to the industry.
Comercial piracy is a different issue. Consumers are paying for this, so the money has been lost to the industry.

This is the system that the DVD Content Control Association is fighting:

http://www.kaleidascape.com/products/

http://www.kaleidascape.com/images/houseplan.jpg



The question being asked is IS THIS SYSTEM legal under the current definition.

This isn't about PIRACY.
This isn't about RIPPING a DVD for a friend.

The question is: Can you RIP a DVD that YOU BOUGHT for YOUR OWN USE?

So:

How many of you think that THIS system should be ILLEGAL?

Not me.

Arthur

According to the industry, I break the copyright law. Here is how:

I have a fairly good CD collection, I buy these legit. I make copies of most CDs for use in each of my 2 cars, I have another copy of CDs of my favourite music at work. I also have 2 ipods and another mp3 player, which I load from music copied to my PC at home. So I can have up to 7 copies of some music as well as the original.

This is not legal use according to the industry. Tough, I'm still going to do it.

If I had to pay for seperate copies of everything, I would not have bought the ipods or mp3 player. I'd just listen to the radio in the car. I probably wouldn't have bothered to buy so many CDs, since it's not so often that I use my home theatre to play music. So the industry would have lost the sale of several ipods/mp3 players and their eventual replacements. I would have bought much less music, so most of the money spent on my music collection would have been lost to the industry too.

Yet the industry claims that the up to 7 copies of music are losing them revenue. This is rubbish.

Looks like a pretty cool system to me. Beats the snot out of a multi disc "jukebox" thingy.

How many people remember when tape recorders were going to bankrupt the entertainment industry?