Just wondering.
How much carbon buildup in 'G-d's lungs can occur before we kill him?
What is the saturation level before the collapse?
Given the Abrahamic religions believe in an all powerful, 'ethereal' (ie not physical body) God, unless you're referring to the more physical gods like those of Roman or Nordic mythology, who could be killed, I don't think your question is even a well defined one.
Obviously you're working to a totally different definition of 'God' than most people and I suspect has something to do with the Earth or Solar System and your wacked out 'Immuno-nonsense'.
Obviously you're working to a totally different definition of 'God' than most people and I suspect has something to do with the Earth or Solar System and your wacked out 'Immuno-nonsense'.
QUOTE (AlphaNumeric+Jan 6 2007, 09:05 AM)
Given the Abrahamic religions believe in an all powerful, 'ethereal' (ie not physical body) God, unless you're referring to the more physical gods like those of Roman or Nordic mythology, who could be killed, I don't think your question is even a well defined one.
Obviously you're working to a totally different definition of 'God' than most people and I suspect has something to do with the Earth or Solar System and your wacked out 'Immuno-nonsense'.
*I dont feel 'kind' right now, so I'll get back into this tomorrow.
I am certain you know the talent I've asked to join the discussion, but you're still so certain of yourself.
Fear that 'Imagination' may be right, contaminates your thoughts and keeps you from acting.
'AlphaNumeric'............# One Uno.
Tell me AlphaNumeric, what is the 'saturation' point level of our Atmosphere?
*If you can't answer that, then what good is all the rest of your Knowledge?
Obviously you're working to a totally different definition of 'God' than most people and I suspect has something to do with the Earth or Solar System and your wacked out 'Immuno-nonsense'.
*I dont feel 'kind' right now, so I'll get back into this tomorrow.
I am certain you know the talent I've asked to join the discussion, but you're still so certain of yourself.
Fear that 'Imagination' may be right, contaminates your thoughts and keeps you from acting.
'AlphaNumeric'............# One Uno.
Tell me AlphaNumeric, what is the 'saturation' point level of our Atmosphere?
*If you can't answer that, then what good is all the rest of your Knowledge?
QUOTE (Imagination+Jan 6 2007, 10:38 AM)
Fear that 'Imagination' may be right, contaminates your thoughts and keeps you from acting.
No, I just explained why your usage of the term 'God' didn't make sense. As vindication for that, you go and say :
No, I just explained why your usage of the term 'God' didn't make sense. As vindication for that, you go and say :
QUOTE (Imagination+Jan 6 2007, 10:38 AM)
Tell me AlphaNumeric, what is the 'saturation' point level of our Atmosphere?
Which proves you weren't talking about God at all, but actually the Earth instead.
How do you expect people to answer you when you can't actually ask a question properly? That isn't my 'fear' of you being right, it's the simple fact you can't put a coherent question together.
And in answer to your now redefined question, the 'saturation' point for CO2 in the atmosphere is enormous. Current levels are something like 0.035%, but the atmosphere could easily be 50% if enough CO2 were produced. I don't think even we have the ability to make the atmosphere that though.
Besides, the greenhouse effect would have killed most life on Earth well before that point. If CO2 levels hit 0.05%, we're in very very big trouble, never mind 50%.
How do you expect people to answer you when you can't actually ask a question properly? That isn't my 'fear' of you being right, it's the simple fact you can't put a coherent question together.
And in answer to your now redefined question, the 'saturation' point for CO2 in the atmosphere is enormous. Current levels are something like 0.035%, but the atmosphere could easily be 50% if enough CO2 were produced. I don't think even we have the ability to make the atmosphere that though.
Besides, the greenhouse effect would have killed most life on Earth well before that point. If CO2 levels hit 0.05%, we're in very very big trouble, never mind 50%.
QUOTE (AlphaNumeric+Jan 6 2007, 09:52 AM)
No, I just explained why your usage of the term 'God' didn't make sense. As vindication for that, you go and say :
Which proves you weren't talking about God at all, but actually the Earth instead.
How do you expect people to answer you when you can't actually ask a question properly? That isn't my 'fear' of you being right, it's the simple fact you can't put a coherent question together.
**!!And in answer to your now redefined question, the 'saturation' point for CO2 in the atmosphere is enormous.
Current levels are something like
[0.035%]
, but the atmosphere could easily be 50% if enough CO2 were produced.
I don't think even we have the ability to make the atmosphere that though.
Besides, the greenhouse effect would have killed most life on Earth well before that point.
If CO2 levels hit
[0.05%]
, we're in very very big trouble, never mind 50%.
I'm shifting back and forth between two definitions, and you know that, and for the reasons that are quite obvious(so everyone can relate).
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[.035/now vs. .05/collapse]
Alright, thankyou for that.
It does not seem like very much more to go.
*This is where we ask ourselves 'how do we deal with the patient'.
A good Doctor with a strong background in both Immunology, Astro-Biology, and the Circulatory System, would now be of important help here.
Which proves you weren't talking about God at all, but actually the Earth instead.
How do you expect people to answer you when you can't actually ask a question properly? That isn't my 'fear' of you being right, it's the simple fact you can't put a coherent question together.
**!!And in answer to your now redefined question, the 'saturation' point for CO2 in the atmosphere is enormous.
Current levels are something like
[0.035%]
, but the atmosphere could easily be 50% if enough CO2 were produced.
I don't think even we have the ability to make the atmosphere that though.
Besides, the greenhouse effect would have killed most life on Earth well before that point.
If CO2 levels hit
[0.05%]
, we're in very very big trouble, never mind 50%.
I'm shifting back and forth between two definitions, and you know that, and for the reasons that are quite obvious(so everyone can relate).
=============
[.035/now vs. .05/collapse]
Alright, thankyou for that.
It does not seem like very much more to go.
*This is where we ask ourselves 'how do we deal with the patient'.
A good Doctor with a strong background in both Immunology, Astro-Biology, and the Circulatory System, would now be of important help here.
QUOTE (Imagination+Jan 6 2007, 11:11 AM)
I'm shifting back and forth between two definitions, and you know that, and for the reasons that are quite obvious(so everyone can relate).
But someone who hasn't read your ramblings before won't know what you mean. You can't blame people for not understanding you when you aren't explaining yourself.
But someone who hasn't read your ramblings before won't know what you mean. You can't blame people for not understanding you when you aren't explaining yourself.
QUOTE (Imagination+Jan 6 2007, 11:11 AM)
[.035/now vs. .05/collapse]
Alright, thankyou for that.
It does not seem like very much more to go..
Alright, thankyou for that.
It does not seem like very much more to go..
It was 0.03% pre-Industrial revolution.
And you're not now?
Physfan
This explanation takes us back to "earth, air, fire, water" science. Most 10 year olds know more about physics and science than this crock.
gmilam has attempted to explain and receives a diatribe from some one who admits they know (far) less; unbelievable!!!! Is this more 'faith based' science; that is, you can believe anything you want so long as 'goddidit'?
Physfan
Savant? You flatter yourself without cause. Your last posting makes as much sense as the 'signature'.
Expound the logicality of a god if you can; you will find it cannot exist. ' Omniciense' is impossible (and the bible admits this). Omnipotence faces an unsolvable paradox. By any measure, for a rational, reasonable person, a god, any god, cannot exist.
There are many resources on the net to more than adequately demonstrate that the dogma is unsustainable.
Physfan
Oh christ, not another messiah! Imagination, you are a nutbag, a rambling loony.
I suggest several viewings of both "The Life of Brian" and "The Holy Grail" so that you might attempt to comprehend the absurdity of your notions.
Physfan
Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo.
QUOTE (Imagination+Jan 6 2007, 11:11 AM)
*This is where we ask ourselves 'how do we deal with the patient'.
A good Doctor with a strong background in both Immunology, Astro-Biology, and the Circulatory System, would now be of important help here.
A good Doctor with a strong background in both Immunology, Astro-Biology, and the Circulatory System, would now be of important help here.
The solar system isn't alive. Besides, what the hell is 'astro-biology'. Someone can't have a 'strong background' in something which doesn't exist 
Still a penny short of a quarter....
Still a penny short of a quarter....
QUOTE (AlphaNumeric+Jan 6 2007, 10:19 AM)
But someone who hasn't read your ramblings before won't know what you mean.
You can't blame people for not understanding you when you aren't explaining yourself.
It was 0.03% pre-Industrial revolution.
The solar system isn't alive. Besides, what the hell is 'astro-biology'.
Someone can't have a 'strong background' in something which doesn't exist
Still a penny short of a quarter....
http://www.astrobio.net/news/article10.html
I've attempted to explain myself many times, but I will try harder.
You can't blame people for not understanding you when you aren't explaining yourself.
It was 0.03% pre-Industrial revolution.
The solar system isn't alive. Besides, what the hell is 'astro-biology'.
Someone can't have a 'strong background' in something which doesn't exist
Still a penny short of a quarter....
http://www.astrobio.net/news/article10.html
I've attempted to explain myself many times, but I will try harder.
Fair enough, the area of 'astrobiology' exists. But note that it's about finding life on other planets or Moons, not about claiming the solar system itself is alive as you seem to keep saying. 'Biosphere' means a planet or moon which has an abundance of life within it. It doesn't mean the planet itself is alive.
QUOTE (AlphaNumeric+Jan 6 2007, 10:38 AM)
Fair enough, the area of 'astrobiology' exists. But note that it's about finding life on other planets or Moons, not about claiming the solar system itself is alive as you seem to keep saying.
'Biosphere' means a planet or moon which has an abundance of life within it. It doesn't mean the planet itself is alive.
This is 'semantics' and the reality is that all things exist in roughly two modes:
1.Self Interest
2.Facillitate
I wrote a whole series of thoughts on this quite a few years ago, and when I was drinking heavily, I lost track of its essence, and focus, with respect to what was my 'own' Theory of the Universe, which tied consciousness together with some of things that are discussed in most 'special relativity' bantering(minus the science of course).
Anyway:
What is 'life' vs. what is 'chemical instructions'?
What is 'consciousness', or 'conscious'?
Reality is that all things have atoms, and they make up all chemicals.
Where does 'life' begin?
Is it 'Hydrogen'?
Is it at 'Carbon'?(possibly).
Is it at 'Oxygen'?
To myself, 'G-d'(or your 'Universe of Motion'), made Life, and the atoms and chemicals,, Facillitate.
I think they are like the 'coin', and they need one another to 'Be'.
*Carbon is Alive, that is why we 'carbon date', and test for it in soil samples on Mars, etc.
I think the other chemicals are alive in their own way, but Carbon is unique.
*How about 'Light'(electro-magnetism), that is inside all the chemicals of the P.T.?
You could say that 'Light' turns the switch on.
*Light is 'alive' too then.
Dr. Emoto's studies are not bunk(I mentioned him in an earlier post), and therefore we can see that Water is Alive(though we kill it presently with our pollutants).
*The case for Life on Earth is obvious(planet and its chemicals).
What about Space?
I say it is alive.
*How would I account for areas of Space that have no visible/detectable life?
**I will get back on that part.
'Biosphere' means a planet or moon which has an abundance of life within it. It doesn't mean the planet itself is alive.
This is 'semantics' and the reality is that all things exist in roughly two modes:
1.Self Interest
2.Facillitate
I wrote a whole series of thoughts on this quite a few years ago, and when I was drinking heavily, I lost track of its essence, and focus, with respect to what was my 'own' Theory of the Universe, which tied consciousness together with some of things that are discussed in most 'special relativity' bantering(minus the science of course).
Anyway:
What is 'life' vs. what is 'chemical instructions'?
What is 'consciousness', or 'conscious'?
Reality is that all things have atoms, and they make up all chemicals.
Where does 'life' begin?
Is it 'Hydrogen'?
Is it at 'Carbon'?(possibly).
Is it at 'Oxygen'?
To myself, 'G-d'(or your 'Universe of Motion'), made Life, and the atoms and chemicals,, Facillitate.
I think they are like the 'coin', and they need one another to 'Be'.
*Carbon is Alive, that is why we 'carbon date', and test for it in soil samples on Mars, etc.
I think the other chemicals are alive in their own way, but Carbon is unique.
*How about 'Light'(electro-magnetism), that is inside all the chemicals of the P.T.?
You could say that 'Light' turns the switch on.
*Light is 'alive' too then.
Dr. Emoto's studies are not bunk(I mentioned him in an earlier post), and therefore we can see that Water is Alive(though we kill it presently with our pollutants).
*The case for Life on Earth is obvious(planet and its chemicals).
What about Space?
I say it is alive.
*How would I account for areas of Space that have no visible/detectable life?
**I will get back on that part.
You word it differently than I would, but I have thought about some of these philosophical ideas. (And it is philosophy - not science... IMHO)
There is nothing man can do to make even a minor impact on the course of the universe. So we don't have to worry about "killing the Earth". The Earth will survive. It's us that we have to worry about.
As George Harrison said, "Life flows on within you and without you."
Just my 2 cents worth.
There is nothing man can do to make even a minor impact on the course of the universe. So we don't have to worry about "killing the Earth". The Earth will survive. It's us that we have to worry about.
As George Harrison said, "Life flows on within you and without you."
Just my 2 cents worth.
Imagination. It is difficult to define life on the most basic scale but it is generally something which can grow over time by taking in nutriments, can change of it's own accord, can reproduce itself and works by an electrochemical system.
Basic elements like carbon do not have this ability. To say they are alive is like saying that a plain lump of metal similar to what your computer is made of could operate as a computer.
Carbon 12, when hit by background radiation can go to higher states, C13 and C14. Over time, the radiation decays and it changes back to C12. Most other elements have similar isotopes too. Nothing special.
Light is just photons. They are a physical effect travelling at a set speed. Light is a byproduct which can be produced by heating certain materials. It is no more alive than your chair is.
Space is a lack of materials which generally has few atoms travelling through it as well as various radiations. It cannot be alive in any way.
Basic elements like carbon do not have this ability. To say they are alive is like saying that a plain lump of metal similar to what your computer is made of could operate as a computer.
Carbon 12, when hit by background radiation can go to higher states, C13 and C14. Over time, the radiation decays and it changes back to C12. Most other elements have similar isotopes too. Nothing special.
Light is just photons. They are a physical effect travelling at a set speed. Light is a byproduct which can be produced by heating certain materials. It is no more alive than your chair is.
Space is a lack of materials which generally has few atoms travelling through it as well as various radiations. It cannot be alive in any way.
QUOTE (gmilam+Jan 7 2007, 06:08 AM)
You word it differently than I would, but I have thought about some of these philosophical ideas. (And it is philosophy - not science... IMHO)
There is nothing man can do to make even a minor impact on the course of the universe.
So we don't have to worry about "killing the Earth". The Earth will survive. It's us that we have to worry about.
As George Harrison said, "Life flows on within you and without you."
'Man' can effect what 'goes on on Earth', and does it everyday.
Mother-Nature 'mirrors' all that we do, but we choose to ignore this reality; we actually permit her to 'hide in plain site'.
*Bruce Lee used to have a quote about 'I don't hit someone, they hit themself'(something like that), and that is about the reality of things.
Bruce was like a 'mirror' of 'action' and 'intent' of another= 're-action'.
What did I just say?= 'Causality'.
'G-d' was first a Philosopher, and before he put thought into action, he possessed the greatest of attributes, 'Emotion', 'Passion', 'Compassion'.
*That is why, man will never put 'G-d', and his 'Creation', inside some formula, equation, or test tube.
There is nothing man can do to make even a minor impact on the course of the universe.
So we don't have to worry about "killing the Earth". The Earth will survive. It's us that we have to worry about.
As George Harrison said, "Life flows on within you and without you."
'Man' can effect what 'goes on on Earth', and does it everyday.
Mother-Nature 'mirrors' all that we do, but we choose to ignore this reality; we actually permit her to 'hide in plain site'.
*Bruce Lee used to have a quote about 'I don't hit someone, they hit themself'(something like that), and that is about the reality of things.
Bruce was like a 'mirror' of 'action' and 'intent' of another= 're-action'.
What did I just say?= 'Causality'.
'G-d' was first a Philosopher, and before he put thought into action, he possessed the greatest of attributes, 'Emotion', 'Passion', 'Compassion'.
*That is why, man will never put 'G-d', and his 'Creation', inside some formula, equation, or test tube.
QUOTE (Imagination+Jan 7 2007, 01:58 AM)
'Man' can effect what 'goes on on Earth', and does it everyday.
Mother-Nature 'mirrors' all that we do, but we choose to ignore this reality; we actually permit her to 'hide in plain site'.
All quite true. But the Earth was here long before Man came about, and it will still be here long after we are gone.
The Earth has been here for a few billion years, the universe several more billion. We are but a speck in the history of things - a passing thought. In another billion years, we will be no more than a forgotten moment of dissonance in Mother Nature's symphony.
Mother-Nature 'mirrors' all that we do, but we choose to ignore this reality; we actually permit her to 'hide in plain site'.
All quite true. But the Earth was here long before Man came about, and it will still be here long after we are gone.
The Earth has been here for a few billion years, the universe several more billion. We are but a speck in the history of things - a passing thought. In another billion years, we will be no more than a forgotten moment of dissonance in Mother Nature's symphony.
QUOTE
when I was drinking heavily
And you're not now?
Physfan
QUOTE (gmilam+Jan 7 2007, 05:17 PM)
All quite true. But the Earth was here long before Man came about, and it will still be here long after we are gone.
The Earth has been here for a few billion years, the universe several more billion. We are but a speck in the history of things - a passing thought. In another billion years, we will be no more than a forgotten moment of dissonance in Mother Nature's symphony.
Everyone is so Wrong!
All of you know that the most unique set of circumstances allowed Life to occur here on this one paticular Planet within the Heavens.
We search the Star Ways for other Life, and yet our Radio-Spectro-Scopes find Zilch, Zappo Nada!!!!
We've looked a long long time too.
*Why is this? Miracle? Yes!
We truly are the definition of a 'Miracle' occuring!
We(Earth and it's inhabitants), were meant to survive, and definitely not to bring about our own destruction.
*I am not trying hard enough to make my case that 'G-d' truly exists all about and around us.
*Yes, we are but a 'note' within the full harmonics of the Universe, but this one 'Note', is Eternal in nature.
The Earth has been here for a few billion years, the universe several more billion. We are but a speck in the history of things - a passing thought. In another billion years, we will be no more than a forgotten moment of dissonance in Mother Nature's symphony.
Everyone is so Wrong!
All of you know that the most unique set of circumstances allowed Life to occur here on this one paticular Planet within the Heavens.
We search the Star Ways for other Life, and yet our Radio-Spectro-Scopes find Zilch, Zappo Nada!!!!
We've looked a long long time too.
*Why is this? Miracle? Yes!
We truly are the definition of a 'Miracle' occuring!
We(Earth and it's inhabitants), were meant to survive, and definitely not to bring about our own destruction.
*I am not trying hard enough to make my case that 'G-d' truly exists all about and around us.
*Yes, we are but a 'note' within the full harmonics of the Universe, but this one 'Note', is Eternal in nature.
Half a page ago you were saying carbon and light are alive... and now you're saying life is unique to us - right here and now.
And no, we have not been looking for a long time... We've only had the technology to look for the last generation or so. Not even a beat in the cosmic symphony.
"There once was a note pure and easy
Playing so free like a breath rippling by
The note is eternal
I hear it, it sees me
Forever we blend it
Forever we die."
- Pete Townshend (Pure and Easy)
And no, we have not been looking for a long time... We've only had the technology to look for the last generation or so. Not even a beat in the cosmic symphony.
"There once was a note pure and easy
Playing so free like a breath rippling by
The note is eternal
I hear it, it sees me
Forever we blend it
Forever we die."
- Pete Townshend (Pure and Easy)
QUOTE (gmilam+Jan 8 2007, 01:36 PM)
Half a page ago you were saying carbon and light are alive... and now you're saying life is unique to us - right here and now.
And no, we have not been looking for a long time... We've only had the technology to look for the last generation or so. Not even a beat in the cosmic symphony.
You know the science better than I do, but our 'scopes' and imaging instruments, see/hear the C.M.B. and so much more, and still after a generation, we find 'Zero'.
I have not contradicted myself. 'Light' is throughout the universe, and Light 'carry's Life with it when interacting with the 'right' chemical environment.
*And when the 'right' chemical environment 'burns off'(Carbon), we get burned off with it.
*What don't you understand professor?
And no, we have not been looking for a long time... We've only had the technology to look for the last generation or so. Not even a beat in the cosmic symphony.
You know the science better than I do, but our 'scopes' and imaging instruments, see/hear the C.M.B. and so much more, and still after a generation, we find 'Zero'.
I have not contradicted myself. 'Light' is throughout the universe, and Light 'carry's Life with it when interacting with the 'right' chemical environment.
*And when the 'right' chemical environment 'burns off'(Carbon), we get burned off with it.
*What don't you understand professor?
First, I am not a professor or an "professional scientist". I am just a fairly bright human with an insatiable curiosity.
Some people have very recently decided to look for signs of artificially produced signals in space. But the universe is a BIG place. Our original radio broadcasts haven't ventured much further than a person dipping their toes in the cosmic ocean.
I suspect that the universe is overflowing with life, but the distances involved makes detection of it very difficult.
Some people have very recently decided to look for signs of artificially produced signals in space. But the universe is a BIG place. Our original radio broadcasts haven't ventured much further than a person dipping their toes in the cosmic ocean.
I suspect that the universe is overflowing with life, but the distances involved makes detection of it very difficult.
QUOTE
You know the science better than I do, but our 'scopes' and imaging instruments, see/hear the C.M.B. and so much more, and still after a generation, we find 'Zero'.
I have not contradicted myself. 'Light' is throughout the universe, and Light 'carry's Life with it when interacting with the 'right' chemical environment.
*And when the 'right' chemical environment 'burns off'(Carbon), we get burned off with it.
*What don't you understand professor?
I have not contradicted myself. 'Light' is throughout the universe, and Light 'carry's Life with it when interacting with the 'right' chemical environment.
*And when the 'right' chemical environment 'burns off'(Carbon), we get burned off with it.
*What don't you understand professor?
This explanation takes us back to "earth, air, fire, water" science. Most 10 year olds know more about physics and science than this crock.
gmilam has attempted to explain and receives a diatribe from some one who admits they know (far) less; unbelievable!!!! Is this more 'faith based' science; that is, you can believe anything you want so long as 'goddidit'?
Physfan
QUOTE (gmilam+Jan 8 2007, 05:06 PM)
First, I am not a professor or an "professional scientist". I am just a fairly bright human with an insatiable curiosity.
Some people have very recently decided to look for signs of artificially produced signals in space. But the universe is a BIG place. Our original radio broadcasts haven't ventured much further than a person dipping their toes in the cosmic ocean.
I suspect that the universe is overflowing with life, but the distances involved makes detection of it very difficult.
I was 'short' with my response. I apologize.
I don't know how abstract of vision you are, but I need someone with genius right now who can take the 'hard science', and apply it to my theory of 'Immuno-Logical' Space.
I can't put it any other way, and if what I'm desperately trying to correlate is not accepted for the Truth that it is, than the necessary focus and time to concentrate on the exact means to initiate a solution in the small window time frame will be lost.
The proper focus is to view ourselves within a Great Universal Body, and we are destroying one Cell of it.
Or, as in Neuro-biology, and Plaque on the Brain, we are suffocating the Earth Cell Brain surface..
Take your pic, we still have a patient to deal with..
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*These people who are jumping in my threads and annihilating what I say, are disturbing both my own focus(and its critical I maintain this! When my mind goes deep, I guess I accomplish what Dr. Mong has said about myself possibly being a Savant= I think he was correct, and maybe like a 'Cosmo-Savant' possibly).
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I made a mistake in what I said on the other reply:
*Life is unique here, but the Universe itself is certainly alive too(even if we haven't found it).
I'm thinking the:: 'G-d' has a special place for us in His Heart.
There might be much truth in that cliche.
Some people have very recently decided to look for signs of artificially produced signals in space. But the universe is a BIG place. Our original radio broadcasts haven't ventured much further than a person dipping their toes in the cosmic ocean.
I suspect that the universe is overflowing with life, but the distances involved makes detection of it very difficult.
I was 'short' with my response. I apologize.
I don't know how abstract of vision you are, but I need someone with genius right now who can take the 'hard science', and apply it to my theory of 'Immuno-Logical' Space.
I can't put it any other way, and if what I'm desperately trying to correlate is not accepted for the Truth that it is, than the necessary focus and time to concentrate on the exact means to initiate a solution in the small window time frame will be lost.
The proper focus is to view ourselves within a Great Universal Body, and we are destroying one Cell of it.
Or, as in Neuro-biology, and Plaque on the Brain, we are suffocating the Earth Cell Brain surface..
Take your pic, we still have a patient to deal with..
-----------
*These people who are jumping in my threads and annihilating what I say, are disturbing both my own focus(and its critical I maintain this! When my mind goes deep, I guess I accomplish what Dr. Mong has said about myself possibly being a Savant= I think he was correct, and maybe like a 'Cosmo-Savant' possibly).
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I made a mistake in what I said on the other reply:
*Life is unique here, but the Universe itself is certainly alive too(even if we haven't found it).
I'm thinking the:: 'G-d' has a special place for us in His Heart.
There might be much truth in that cliche.
QUOTE
Universal Algorithm = Rorschach Blot of self reflection, the essential riddle behind a consciousness of infinite expressions.
Holographic echo of balance is the eternal sin/cosin wave logrithm governing all patternistic cycles.
Decipher that, win a cookie.
Holographic echo of balance is the eternal sin/cosin wave logrithm governing all patternistic cycles.
Decipher that, win a cookie.
Savant? You flatter yourself without cause. Your last posting makes as much sense as the 'signature'.
Expound the logicality of a god if you can; you will find it cannot exist. ' Omniciense' is impossible (and the bible admits this). Omnipotence faces an unsolvable paradox. By any measure, for a rational, reasonable person, a god, any god, cannot exist.
There are many resources on the net to more than adequately demonstrate that the dogma is unsustainable.
Physfan
This idea of the Earth/Universe/Cosmos being a living entity is nothing new. It's at the core of many pagan belief systems. As philosophy, I don't have any problems with it.
My personal philosophy is posted around here several times. You can check my history... But in a nut shell (no offense intended
) - the universe and god are one in the same. The universe is cyclical. It has been through an infinite number of deaths and re-births and it will continue to do so. Birth, expansion, contraction, death, rebirth - like a giant sine wave. The eternal note.
We are just along for the ride. There is nothing we can do to alter or affect the universe in any significant way.
Does this mean it doesn't matter what we do? To god - maybe not. But to our fellow humans - yes. We have such a short time here we might as well take care of each other and try to get along.
We evolved out of our environment... we can take care of it and flourish (unless a comet does us in - like it did the dinosaurs). Or we can destroy it and in turn wipe ourselves out. It's up to us.
But the universe does not care one way or the other.
My personal philosophy is posted around here several times. You can check my history... But in a nut shell (no offense intended
) - the universe and god are one in the same. The universe is cyclical. It has been through an infinite number of deaths and re-births and it will continue to do so. Birth, expansion, contraction, death, rebirth - like a giant sine wave. The eternal note.We are just along for the ride. There is nothing we can do to alter or affect the universe in any significant way.
Does this mean it doesn't matter what we do? To god - maybe not. But to our fellow humans - yes. We have such a short time here we might as well take care of each other and try to get along.
We evolved out of our environment... we can take care of it and flourish (unless a comet does us in - like it did the dinosaurs). Or we can destroy it and in turn wipe ourselves out. It's up to us.
But the universe does not care one way or the other.
QUOTE (Physfan+Jan 9 2007, 10:20 AM)
Savant? You flatter yourself without cause. Your last posting makes as much sense as the 'signature'.
Expound the logicality of a god if you can; you will find it cannot exist. ' Omniciense' is impossible (and the bible admits this). Omnipotence faces an unsolvable paradox. By any measure, for a rational, reasonable person, a god, any god, cannot exist.
There are many resources on the net to more than adequately demonstrate that the dogma is unsustainable.
Physfan
I cannot have my 'signature line'? Its part humor, I apologize for it.
I've attempted to make analogies to 'prove 'G-d' exists' many times in other threads.
Here, once more:
A single cell in your body doesn't know you exist,, well do you?
*Hmmm. Most people answer that a 'cell' doesn't think or have consiousness, but that it only follows an instruction.
Humans claim that they do have all three of the above.
Planets would be just like the single cell interpretation(it seems)
I say Planets are 100% alive, just like the one's that have plants grow on them.
Do Plants think? Do they have consciousness? Just instructions?
We eat fruit and vegetables. We can only 'live' by eating these with the water that comes with them.
Does Water have consciousness? Does it Think? Instructions?
How about 'Hydrogen'(your # Uno on the Periodic Table)?
How about Water? Does it Think? Is it Real or Not? Does it have Consciousness?
Is Water only an 'Instruction'?
Yes my friend, we are within the living body of Living Being.
*Question to you. Lets play a bit now.
Take what I say as a Hypothetical(instead of badgering the concept), and tell me one thing:
What part of the Body are we residing within?
*The answer for me is the Heart(because of Carbon).
And then go through everything you know about our physical laws of cosmos, etc.
and apply a physiological view to the universe.
*You will find that all your calculations will begin to zero in to complete understanding.
The cosmo constant will probably be found to be a neuro-electrical signal, or something along the lines of 'circadian rhythm'.
'BlackHoles' possibly Hormone Re-Absorption through the Universal Autonomic Nervous System.
Expound the logicality of a god if you can; you will find it cannot exist. ' Omniciense' is impossible (and the bible admits this). Omnipotence faces an unsolvable paradox. By any measure, for a rational, reasonable person, a god, any god, cannot exist.
There are many resources on the net to more than adequately demonstrate that the dogma is unsustainable.
Physfan
I cannot have my 'signature line'? Its part humor, I apologize for it.
I've attempted to make analogies to 'prove 'G-d' exists' many times in other threads.
Here, once more:
A single cell in your body doesn't know you exist,, well do you?
*Hmmm. Most people answer that a 'cell' doesn't think or have consiousness, but that it only follows an instruction.
Humans claim that they do have all three of the above.
Planets would be just like the single cell interpretation(it seems)
I say Planets are 100% alive, just like the one's that have plants grow on them.
Do Plants think? Do they have consciousness? Just instructions?
We eat fruit and vegetables. We can only 'live' by eating these with the water that comes with them.
Does Water have consciousness? Does it Think? Instructions?
How about 'Hydrogen'(your # Uno on the Periodic Table)?
How about Water? Does it Think? Is it Real or Not? Does it have Consciousness?
Is Water only an 'Instruction'?
Yes my friend, we are within the living body of Living Being.
*Question to you. Lets play a bit now.
Take what I say as a Hypothetical(instead of badgering the concept), and tell me one thing:
What part of the Body are we residing within?
*The answer for me is the Heart(because of Carbon).
And then go through everything you know about our physical laws of cosmos, etc.
and apply a physiological view to the universe.
*You will find that all your calculations will begin to zero in to complete understanding.
The cosmo constant will probably be found to be a neuro-electrical signal, or something along the lines of 'circadian rhythm'.
'BlackHoles' possibly Hormone Re-Absorption through the Universal Autonomic Nervous System.
Earth Science is also a reasonable analogy to how our bodies operate= you can make exact parallels.
'Heart'= 'Emotion'= Hormone(Neuro).
'G-d' Feels. 'G-d' is both Blind and Deaf; He Feels us at all times.
He ask only one Queston:
Are you Me(Are you O.K.).
And if we are 'Not' In Balance/Harmony(and Earth's Magnetic Signature is fast shifting toward that point), we will meet our Immune Fate. We will have become as Lupus or a Cancer Cell.
*I almost got foul with my words just now. That would be the old me when I was intolerant of people sticking their heads in the sand out of ignorance or fear of facing the truth.
I cannot be that way. I hope I never get back that way.
None of you but a few believe what I've said, but I am literally on a 'Mission' for 'G-d' right now. And He is doing this for all of you..
*Do this for your children please. I've none of my own. Who possibly could I be doing this for? Its for you.
'Heart'= 'Emotion'= Hormone(Neuro).
'G-d' Feels. 'G-d' is both Blind and Deaf; He Feels us at all times.
He ask only one Queston:
Are you Me(Are you O.K.).
And if we are 'Not' In Balance/Harmony(and Earth's Magnetic Signature is fast shifting toward that point), we will meet our Immune Fate. We will have become as Lupus or a Cancer Cell.
*I almost got foul with my words just now. That would be the old me when I was intolerant of people sticking their heads in the sand out of ignorance or fear of facing the truth.
I cannot be that way. I hope I never get back that way.
None of you but a few believe what I've said, but I am literally on a 'Mission' for 'G-d' right now. And He is doing this for all of you..
*Do this for your children please. I've none of my own. Who possibly could I be doing this for? Its for you.
http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtop...15&#entry164482
*and another reference to 'life' in the universe.
*and another reference to 'life' in the universe.
Imagination,
Your meanderings are mystical and based in vitalism. In other words, you are 'dreaming'. I bet you you believe in horoscopes too; same thought processes involved.
Physfan
Your meanderings are mystical and based in vitalism. In other words, you are 'dreaming'. I bet you you believe in horoscopes too; same thought processes involved.
Physfan
QUOTE (Physfan+Jan 9 2007, 08:48 PM)
Imagination,
Your meanderings are mystical and based in vitalism. In other words, you are 'dreaming'.
I bet you you believe in horoscopes too; same thought processes involved.
Physfan
I think you suffer what the others have demonstrated often here.
Your 'degree', and Ego, dis-allow you to consider the reality outside the box of your academic understanding.
You fear that you've been wrong all along, and you fear your own peers and how they'd perceive you if you should acknowledge 'G-d' is Real.
So be it if that is what you desire.
The Truth is all Reality is based first in Emotion, and then Intention from Consciousness= 'Dream and Imagine' first(in case your science didn't teach it)
*Horoscopes? You cannot compare that or numerology to the exact science of Gematria from Hebrew.
Here's another 'delusion' for you(written as my response in Relativity board).
'Fractal Births' of mini universes or Babies of Self-Similar Red Cell Membranes with no nucleus of their own. Maybe.
Infinitely recyclying Red Cells within side the Immune White Cell, and Anti-Gen BlackHoles that keep things 'right' within.
Always 'Re-Absorbing' itself through many merging galaxies, and then blackholes, and then Big Crunch= Back to One Singularity.
And then Birth Big Bang once more.
And then of course we have our Hormones which facilliate the Blood of the Universe and 'G-d'.
.......Harmones always re-absorbing within the brain, etc.
*You need the right reference to comprehend what you're trying to understand.
Possibly a physiologist would be a good addition to this thread, and can make the correct analogy that I was attempting.
You will search forever for answers, but never find them unless you comprehend that you are 'small',. and exist within an Infinite Being('G-d'), who is Eternal.
*The 'Seed' is Eternal!! Just check your own D.N.A.
Your meanderings are mystical and based in vitalism. In other words, you are 'dreaming'.
I bet you you believe in horoscopes too; same thought processes involved.
Physfan
I think you suffer what the others have demonstrated often here.
Your 'degree', and Ego, dis-allow you to consider the reality outside the box of your academic understanding.
You fear that you've been wrong all along, and you fear your own peers and how they'd perceive you if you should acknowledge 'G-d' is Real.
So be it if that is what you desire.
The Truth is all Reality is based first in Emotion, and then Intention from Consciousness= 'Dream and Imagine' first(in case your science didn't teach it)
*Horoscopes? You cannot compare that or numerology to the exact science of Gematria from Hebrew.
Here's another 'delusion' for you(written as my response in Relativity board).
'Fractal Births' of mini universes or Babies of Self-Similar Red Cell Membranes with no nucleus of their own. Maybe.
Infinitely recyclying Red Cells within side the Immune White Cell, and Anti-Gen BlackHoles that keep things 'right' within.
Always 'Re-Absorbing' itself through many merging galaxies, and then blackholes, and then Big Crunch= Back to One Singularity.
And then Birth Big Bang once more.
And then of course we have our Hormones which facilliate the Blood of the Universe and 'G-d'.
.......Harmones always re-absorbing within the brain, etc.
*You need the right reference to comprehend what you're trying to understand.
Possibly a physiologist would be a good addition to this thread, and can make the correct analogy that I was attempting.
You will search forever for answers, but never find them unless you comprehend that you are 'small',. and exist within an Infinite Being('G-d'), who is Eternal.
*The 'Seed' is Eternal!! Just check your own D.N.A.
Yep, I'm right. Nonsensical ramblings about mysticism. Nothing that can be substantiated but, hey, you believe it and it is a type of faith-based 'knowledge' so it must be right.
Physfan
Physfan
QUOTE (Physfan+Jan 9 2007, 09:19 PM)
Yep, I'm right. Nonsensical ramblings about mysticism.
Nothing that can be substantiated but, hey, you believe it and it is a type of faith-based 'knowledge' so it must be right.
Physfan
You don't understand your world at all.
The reality is, is that you never will.
I say that because you have no idea of time line we are now on.
Even if there were none, your 'Ego Block'(as you have), will not permit you to 'see' with the vision desired.
That is why the Eastern School is superior to the West. I am sad that it is 'yours' that seek to destroy that school.
I've mentioned before. Even the Kabbalist(the bad ones at that), know that the one lesson is 'Adam's Sin' that we still learn; and if you 'put aside' Ego, the Truth will filter in to you.
But you reject all Religion, and the most essential lesson of it.
I don't, and that is why I comprehend the Gematria as I do.
Brother. I'm trying to save this Planet, help out please.
Nothing that can be substantiated but, hey, you believe it and it is a type of faith-based 'knowledge' so it must be right.
Physfan
You don't understand your world at all.
The reality is, is that you never will.
I say that because you have no idea of time line we are now on.
Even if there were none, your 'Ego Block'(as you have), will not permit you to 'see' with the vision desired.
That is why the Eastern School is superior to the West. I am sad that it is 'yours' that seek to destroy that school.
I've mentioned before. Even the Kabbalist(the bad ones at that), know that the one lesson is 'Adam's Sin' that we still learn; and if you 'put aside' Ego, the Truth will filter in to you.
But you reject all Religion, and the most essential lesson of it.
I don't, and that is why I comprehend the Gematria as I do.
Brother. I'm trying to save this Planet, help out please.
QUOTE
Brother. I'm trying to save this Planet, help out please.
Oh christ, not another messiah! Imagination, you are a nutbag, a rambling loony.
I suggest several viewings of both "The Life of Brian" and "The Holy Grail" so that you might attempt to comprehend the absurdity of your notions.
Physfan
Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo.
QUOTE (Physfan+Jan 9 2007, 10:57 PM)
Oh christ, not another messiah! Imagination, you are a nutbag, a rambling loony.
I suggest several viewings of both "The Life of Brian" and "The Holy Grail" so that you might attempt to comprehend the absurdity of your notions.
Physfan
Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo.
Hi Physfan!
Just 'returning' the timely reminder (reality check) you gave me in the Radioactive Dating thread, mate! I'm taking your advice there, hehehe.
Now it's your turn to take it easy and leave this one be for a while, eh?
Cheers all!
.
I suggest several viewings of both "The Life of Brian" and "The Holy Grail" so that you might attempt to comprehend the absurdity of your notions.
Physfan
Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo.
Hi Physfan!
Just 'returning' the timely reminder (reality check) you gave me in the Radioactive Dating thread, mate! I'm taking your advice there, hehehe.
Now it's your turn to take it easy and leave this one be for a while, eh?
Cheers all!
.
QUOTE (Physfan+Jan 9 2007, 10:57 PM)
Oh christ, not another messiah! Imagination, you are a nutbag, a rambling loony.
I suggest several viewings of both "The Life of Brian" and "The Holy Grail" so that you might attempt to comprehend the absurdity of your notions.
Physfan
Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo.
'Mossiach' actually.
Question:
What is the most critical time of mankind? That is right from the Good Book.
'He' comes at the End of Times.
Or. The 'Concept' comes at the End of Times.
What could it possibly mean(End of Times)?
*I think you know the answer, and how '358'('Mossiach' Gematria #), = '360' PPM
Carbon in the Atmosphere.
Anthropic Theory of Life= the Carbon specifically(though much more is involved).
Again, the '12.01' in Carbon Weight(periodic table),. is why the Hebrew was fascinated with 'Twelve'.
Again, the 'Twelve Cranial Nerves' is why we are 'connected' to the Universal Mind of 'G-d'.
*Where do you think the Hebrew Star meaning derived from?
Think!!!!
We are now in a short Grace period only. We slip steadily toward the precipice of the 'Fail Safe' point.
I suggest several viewings of both "The Life of Brian" and "The Holy Grail" so that you might attempt to comprehend the absurdity of your notions.
Physfan
Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo.
'Mossiach' actually.
Question:
What is the most critical time of mankind? That is right from the Good Book.
'He' comes at the End of Times.
Or. The 'Concept' comes at the End of Times.
What could it possibly mean(End of Times)?
*I think you know the answer, and how '358'('Mossiach' Gematria #), = '360' PPM
Carbon in the Atmosphere.
Anthropic Theory of Life= the Carbon specifically(though much more is involved).
Again, the '12.01' in Carbon Weight(periodic table),. is why the Hebrew was fascinated with 'Twelve'.
Again, the 'Twelve Cranial Nerves' is why we are 'connected' to the Universal Mind of 'G-d'.
*Where do you think the Hebrew Star meaning derived from?
Think!!!!
We are now in a short Grace period only. We slip steadily toward the precipice of the 'Fail Safe' point.
OK - I'm raising the BS flag on this one. If you are truly worried and want to do somehing good than stop posting on this tiny website and get out there and DO SOMETHING! I mean - c'mon - are you serious? Sell your house, quit your job and invest that money in a cause that will make a difference. If you really think we are on the brink, that this is a turning point, do something other than post on this website.
Of course for all I know maybe you are doing something other than posting meaningless ideas on webistes. I dont' know. But if you were doing something other than that, would you have time to talk to us here? Probably not. So therefore it must not be that big of a deal or you would be doing something other than talking here.....
So, generate the capital necessary to really persuade some important people and save the world man. We are counting on you.
I'm with you in a way. I think we need to change some habits and be more conservative in regards to our natural resources. But you seem to see the end coming near - so stop whining and do something. Take charge.
ChiChi out.
Of course for all I know maybe you are doing something other than posting meaningless ideas on webistes. I dont' know. But if you were doing something other than that, would you have time to talk to us here? Probably not. So therefore it must not be that big of a deal or you would be doing something other than talking here.....
So, generate the capital necessary to really persuade some important people and save the world man. We are counting on you.
I'm with you in a way. I think we need to change some habits and be more conservative in regards to our natural resources. But you seem to see the end coming near - so stop whining and do something. Take charge.
ChiChi out.
QUOTE (chichiflys+Jan 10 2007, 05:03 AM)
OK - I'm raising the BS flag on this one.
If you are truly worried and want to do somehing good than stop posting on this tiny website and get out there and DO SOMETHING! I mean - c'mon - are you serious? Sell your house, quit your job and invest that money in a cause that will make a difference. If you really think we are on the brink, that this is a turning point, do something other than post on this website.
Of course for all I know maybe you are doing something other than posting meaningless ideas on webistes. I dont' know. But if you were doing something other than that, would you have time to talk to us here? Probably not. So therefore it must not be that big of a deal or you would be doing something other than talking here.....
So, generate the capital necessary to really persuade some important people and save the world man. We are counting on you.
I'm with you in a way. I think we need to change some habits and be more conservative in regards to our natural resources. But you seem to see the end coming near - so stop whining and do something. Take charge.
ChiChi out.
How do I take my time with someone like you and others who just like to do the 'knock me down' thing?
You want me to be on some other board, or venue someplace else?
I chose this website because it was one of the best I came across(a while back actually).
The 'audience' is here right now. This is my Ground Zero for Testing the Message.
You will actually learn how your own(mine too) government will respond to a clear un-equivical statement of emergency(put on paper and presented to them= eventually), by how our 'peers' here respond(or not).
*Would you like me in a 'slower' venue? Do you believe there is that much time left?
*Think again.
*Also. The time this board wastes avoiding my desperate attempt to collaborate with those who can help here, will shove everything to 'past' Fail Safe in November.
*Let me ask you again. Where do you want me to 'start over at'?
If you are truly worried and want to do somehing good than stop posting on this tiny website and get out there and DO SOMETHING! I mean - c'mon - are you serious? Sell your house, quit your job and invest that money in a cause that will make a difference. If you really think we are on the brink, that this is a turning point, do something other than post on this website.
Of course for all I know maybe you are doing something other than posting meaningless ideas on webistes. I dont' know. But if you were doing something other than that, would you have time to talk to us here? Probably not. So therefore it must not be that big of a deal or you would be doing something other than talking here.....
So, generate the capital necessary to really persuade some important people and save the world man. We are counting on you.
I'm with you in a way. I think we need to change some habits and be more conservative in regards to our natural resources. But you seem to see the end coming near - so stop whining and do something. Take charge.
ChiChi out.
How do I take my time with someone like you and others who just like to do the 'knock me down' thing?
You want me to be on some other board, or venue someplace else?
I chose this website because it was one of the best I came across(a while back actually).
The 'audience' is here right now. This is my Ground Zero for Testing the Message.
You will actually learn how your own(mine too) government will respond to a clear un-equivical statement of emergency(put on paper and presented to them= eventually), by how our 'peers' here respond(or not).
*Would you like me in a 'slower' venue? Do you believe there is that much time left?
*Think again.
*Also. The time this board wastes avoiding my desperate attempt to collaborate with those who can help here, will shove everything to 'past' Fail Safe in November.
*Let me ask you again. Where do you want me to 'start over at'?
Imagination: Here is why the bible honestly does not have a clue. Read about the endtime and see how they got it 100% wrong:
The end will come within the lifetime of Jesus's listeners.
"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." -- Matthew16:28
"But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God." -- Luke 9:27
"Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation." -- Matthew 23:36
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." -- Matthew 24:34
"Nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven." -- Matthew 26:64
"Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power." -- Mark 9:1
"Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done." -- Mark 13:30
"And ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven." -- Mark 14:62
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled." -- Luke 21:32
"Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?" -- John 21:22
The end will come within the lifetime of the the New Testament authors.
"Waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ ... that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ." -- 1 Corinthians 1:7-8
"But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none." -- 1 Corinthians 7:29
"That ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ. -- Philippians 1:10
"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." -- 1 Thessalonians 4:17
"I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." -- 1 Thessalonians 5:23
"Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son...." -- Hebrews 1:2
"But now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself." -- Hebrews 9:26
"Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you." -- 1 Peter 1:20
"But the end of all things is at hand." -- 1 Peter 4:7
"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." -- 1 John 2:18
The end will come soon. (Within a couple thousand years or so.)
"The Lord is at hand." -- Philippians 4:5
"For the coming of the Lord draweth nigh." -- James 5:8
"For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry." -- Hebrews 10:37
"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass. -- Revelation 1:1
"The time is at hand." -- Revelation 1:3
"Behold, I come quickly." -- Revelation 3:11, 22:7, 22:12
"Surely I come quickly." -- Revelation 22:20
Courtesy of the site that proved Newguy does not have a clue:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
The end will come within the lifetime of Jesus's listeners.
"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." -- Matthew16:28
"But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God." -- Luke 9:27
"Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation." -- Matthew 23:36
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." -- Matthew 24:34
"Nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven." -- Matthew 26:64
"Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power." -- Mark 9:1
"Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done." -- Mark 13:30
"And ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven." -- Mark 14:62
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled." -- Luke 21:32
"Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?" -- John 21:22
The end will come within the lifetime of the the New Testament authors.
"Waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ ... that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ." -- 1 Corinthians 1:7-8
"But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none." -- 1 Corinthians 7:29
"That ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ. -- Philippians 1:10
"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." -- 1 Thessalonians 4:17
"I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." -- 1 Thessalonians 5:23
"Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son...." -- Hebrews 1:2
"But now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself." -- Hebrews 9:26
"Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you." -- 1 Peter 1:20
"But the end of all things is at hand." -- 1 Peter 4:7
"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." -- 1 John 2:18
The end will come soon. (Within a couple thousand years or so.)
"The Lord is at hand." -- Philippians 4:5
"For the coming of the Lord draweth nigh." -- James 5:8
"For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry." -- Hebrews 10:37
"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass. -- Revelation 1:1
"The time is at hand." -- Revelation 1:3
"Behold, I come quickly." -- Revelation 3:11, 22:7, 22:12
"Surely I come quickly." -- Revelation 22:20
Courtesy of the site that proved Newguy does not have a clue:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
QUOTE (Imagination+Jan 10 2007, 07:46 AM)
How do I take my time with someone like you and others who just like to do the 'knock me down' thing?
You want me to be on some other board, or venue someplace else?
I chose this website because it was one of the best I came across(a while back actually).
The 'audience' is here right now. This is my Ground Zero for Testing the Message.
You will actually learn how your own(mine too) government will respond to a clear un-equivical statement of emergency(put on paper and presented to them= eventually), by how our 'peers' here respond(or not).
*Would you like me in a 'slower' venue? Do you believe there is that much time left?
*Think again.
*Also. The time this board wastes avoiding my desperate attempt to collaborate with those who can help here, will shove everything to 'past' Fail Safe in November.
*Let me ask you again. Where do you want me to 'start over at'?
Imagination. I know you mean well but not one single person here believes in your message, and many have given you good reasons why it is wrong. You are wasting your time by continuously repeating it to a disbelieving audience.
You want me to be on some other board, or venue someplace else?
I chose this website because it was one of the best I came across(a while back actually).
The 'audience' is here right now. This is my Ground Zero for Testing the Message.
You will actually learn how your own(mine too) government will respond to a clear un-equivical statement of emergency(put on paper and presented to them= eventually), by how our 'peers' here respond(or not).
*Would you like me in a 'slower' venue? Do you believe there is that much time left?
*Think again.
*Also. The time this board wastes avoiding my desperate attempt to collaborate with those who can help here, will shove everything to 'past' Fail Safe in November.
*Let me ask you again. Where do you want me to 'start over at'?
Imagination. I know you mean well but not one single person here believes in your message, and many have given you good reasons why it is wrong. You are wasting your time by continuously repeating it to a disbelieving audience.
You have a sympathetic ear here too. We should be much better guardians and protectors of our environment. We evolved from it. I do not use the term "Mother Nature" lightly.
But if you go around talking about light and carbon being "alive" and "blood gas in G-d's lungs" people are going to discount you as someone who sniffed too much glue in high school.
If you want to talk with scientifically minded people, you need to learn some real science. Not this metaphysical stuff that's being passed off as pseudo-science these days.
Oh and I was president of the Ecology club at school when I was 14. (That was 35 years ago) We thought the end was imminent then too.
But if you go around talking about light and carbon being "alive" and "blood gas in G-d's lungs" people are going to discount you as someone who sniffed too much glue in high school.
If you want to talk with scientifically minded people, you need to learn some real science. Not this metaphysical stuff that's being passed off as pseudo-science these days.
Oh and I was president of the Ecology club at school when I was 14. (That was 35 years ago) We thought the end was imminent then too.
QUOTE (kaneda+Jan 10 2007, 08:03 AM)
Imagination. I know you mean well but not one single person here believes in your message, and many have given you good reasons why it is wrong.
You are wasting your time by continuously repeating it to a disbelieving audience.
Kaneda,
They are going to change their minds very soon.
Ionic Bonds. Spooky Action at a Distance....::.
Keep that in Mind, because they apply to my theory.
Planets are linked, just as chemicals have ionic bonds.
Also, the Hemoglobin in your Red Cells, and the way Carbon Dioxide and Oxygen work together, are pretty much similar to how the Atmosphere works.
*At the 'Membrane'/Magnetosphere, is where we begin to understand the Ionic Bonding between Planets.
You are wasting your time by continuously repeating it to a disbelieving audience.
Kaneda,
They are going to change their minds very soon.
Ionic Bonds. Spooky Action at a Distance....::.
Keep that in Mind, because they apply to my theory.
Planets are linked, just as chemicals have ionic bonds.
Also, the Hemoglobin in your Red Cells, and the way Carbon Dioxide and Oxygen work together, are pretty much similar to how the Atmosphere works.
*At the 'Membrane'/Magnetosphere, is where we begin to understand the Ionic Bonding between Planets.
Imagination. Have you ever thought of explaning to NASA that all the planets are linked? I'm sure it would be news to them.
QUOTE (kaneda+Jan 12 2007, 10:47 AM)
Imagination. Have you ever thought of explaning to NASA that all the planets are linked? I'm sure it would be news to them.
*I've written this on another thread.
I made a mistake of word because I was in haste.
By this weekend I will have some of the terms down correct, but here is something you could help with since you appear to have the requistite background:
1.Valence Bond
2.Polar Bond
3.Electron Negativity
4.MO Theory
5.Electro-Static InterAction
6.Dipoles
7.Gibbs Energy
8.Chemiosmotic Phosphorylation
9.Electron Donor
*We live in a Cyto-Plasm, and Anabolism and Catabolism is occuring within our Solar Sphere System.
*Jupiter and Saturn will combine to form the Comet.
*Hopefully the 'collective' membership(along with their 'Knowledge'), will begin to think more creatively, and help me make the connections to prove my theory.
You are letting precious time go by.
*I've written this on another thread.
I made a mistake of word because I was in haste.
By this weekend I will have some of the terms down correct, but here is something you could help with since you appear to have the requistite background:
1.Valence Bond
2.Polar Bond
3.Electron Negativity
4.MO Theory
5.Electro-Static InterAction
6.Dipoles
7.Gibbs Energy
8.Chemiosmotic Phosphorylation
9.Electron Donor
*We live in a Cyto-Plasm, and Anabolism and Catabolism is occuring within our Solar Sphere System.
*Jupiter and Saturn will combine to form the Comet.
*Hopefully the 'collective' membership(along with their 'Knowledge'), will begin to think more creatively, and help me make the connections to prove my theory.
You are letting precious time go by.
Imagination. You have to explain how any of these can work across tens or even hundreds of millions of miles of hard vacuum which is as close as it gets to atom free so does away with most of your words in one go.
How can Jupiter and Saturn form a comet? That is a; "the Moon is made of green cheese" argument.
How can Jupiter and Saturn form a comet? That is a; "the Moon is made of green cheese" argument.
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