This 'moonwalker' (lenbrazil) has spent way too long at Apollo-Hoax debunking a ridiculously silly tin-hat theory that 'We-Never-Went-To-The-Moon'.

Pretty easy to do that...

it also takes about an hour or two of research to completely debunk Phil Jayhans 'Amazing Pod Theory' .

Unfortunately, lenny has fallen into the tin-hat belief that ALL conspiracies are total nonsense (and therefore 'easy' to debunk).

Silly goose has brought his old sophistry 'talents' here to address what appears to be very new to him... (the WTC towers demolition theories). I guess he feels he needs to do NO research at all to debunk these stupid 'CTists'.

With all due respect, lenbrazil... if you want to play 'debunker' here, first you will need to do much more research regarding the NIST reports & history... witness testimonies... actual engineered construction of the buildings... etc.

Good grief, man - you are not even aware of a national hero - Rodriguez !!!

Seriously, do some research into this 'conspiracy' before simply trying to apply the AH 'debunking' tactics here.

You are Waaaaayyyy out of your league, sir.

Now, please try and do some research into stuctural engineering, so that you can attempt to address Gordons response (intelligently).

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Metamars... you might find the following particularly interesting.

Re-visiting the Thermobaric Bombs Theory...

Given the possible passages for jet-fuel to arrive in the basement levels (at supersonic speed), and finding those theories which depend upon sentient jet-fuel to be highly implausible myself... (especially given that a 'thermobaric bomb depends upon a highly precise volumetric mixture of oxygen in ratio to precise size of kerosene droplets), personally I find this theory quite implausible.

However, after doing some further research on the question of the 'thermobaric explosion' in the basement levels, I have found the following.

As you know, opponents have pointed out (correctly) that a conventional explosive does not produce great fireballs (as popularized by movies).

So, we have faced a conundrum of how the basement explosion could have been merely conventional explosives (RDX / etc), when there is ample witness testimony that 'fireballs' were associated with such explosion(s).

---Excerpted from "Fatal Rebirth" by H. Michael Sweeney------

The following material is used by permission. It comes from Fatal Rebirth Fatal Rebirth , a book on crimes of the intelligence community by H. Michael Sweeney. More about Fatal Rebirth and METC technology can be found at his Web site, proparanoid.com. The author flatly states that METC is real technology, and he personally believes they may have been used in both the 1993 WTC bombing and the Murrah building blasts. METC, according to Mr. Sweeney, is also likely the technology used in 'The Mother of All Bombs' as used in Iraq during 'Shock and Awe' operations. Critical information has been withheld to prevent bomb duplication.

From "Fatal Rebirth", Chapter Four. Copyright c 1996 All rights reserved. It starts with a copy of a technical report given by an investigative writer named Thorpe to former FBI agent Jim Meresco, who quit the agency over problems over FBI handling of the Oklahoma and World Trade Center cases -- himself believing them to be a cover up of what really happened....

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Project METC Summary Report

The chief difference in METC unit (Multiple Explosives Transitional Container) design over traditional explosive devices moves away from a densely packed explosive core towards a large volume of highly explosive but low-density mass in the form of a gaseous cloud. In the normal bomb all explosive energy comes from a tightly packed core and must drive outward against air pressure and objects it encounters. It rapidly bleeds off energy at the square of the distance as it accumulates a wall of pressure resistance and a mass of heavy debris, which it must continually regather and push along.

The new design starts as a small device but transforms itself through simple means from a dense-core technology to a much larger gaseous-cloud state. Igniting the explosive cloud at any peripheral or central point creates a chain-reaction-like and progressively growing explosive force. As the force of the explosion moves outward, it continues to ignite fresh explosive materials as encountered and gains momentum rather than loosing it. Further, because the gaseous cloud is efficiently mixed explosive materials combined with abundant free-air oxygen, ignition is far more complete and productive - leaving little or no chemical residue or traditional flash evidence (other than a burn signature, which any investigator would presume to be from ordinary fire)on immediately encountered objects. The net result is as if a significantly larger central core device had been detonated, with the complete and even combustion making difficult any aftermath analysis as to the true nature of the explosives used. Finally, the shape of the cloud and the ignition point within the cloud, if properly controlled, provides an extremely easy means to create shaped charge effects despite a relatively free-form original cloud shape.

Termed an electro-hydrodynamic gaseous fuel device (fn1), it produces a three-stage explosion through a process described as a highly focused, A-neutronic (fn2) energy transfer. The first detonation would be a small, low-volume explosion provided by just a few ounces of PETN explosive (fn3). This is placed within a relatively small central core shaft suspended from the top of the bomb container such that it is surrounded by a liquid compound of aqueous ammonium nitrate. The core shaft containing the explosive is itself made up of a compressed and hardened compound of aluminum silicate and N2O4, which starts as a slurry prior to application of a high-pressure baking process. Except for the explosive charge protected from external forces within, these items are all safe from accidental detonation as relatively safe-to-handle materials.

The first explosion's sole function is something akin to shaking a warm soda bottle violently with only a thumb to cover the opening. The relatively small explosion providing three key effects: reduction of the inner core shaft to a microfine powder; mixture of the resulting powder and aqueous solution under violently induced pressure in order to cause complete chemical absorption; and force- opening the container to support erruption of contents into a gaseous state. The cylindrical bomb casing, which has precut scores or weak points to insure it ruptures in a sawtooth pattern about its middle, splits into two flowered halves which blossom outward from the pressure. The upper half shoots upward as if shot from a cannon, while the lower portion remains cannon-like and in place on its base.

Milliseconds later, a second explosion of a larger quantity of more powerful PDTN (fn4) material is set off at the bottom of the container. Timing is critical in milliseconds as too-long a delay would allow the flash of the explosion to prematurely ignite the gaseous cloud. This detonation must take place before the cloud has been adequately oxygenated and so expanded as to be reactant to the flash, but delayed to the optimum point for final blast effects.

The ideal detonator would likely be some form of barometric sensing device looking for the changes in pressure as the explosion's forced evacuation begins to drop back towards normal levels. Simple electronic timming devices could work adequately but would not allow optimum performance in field application, as the variables of bomb placement relative to large objects/structures and open/confined spaces can impact on timing needs in incalcuable ways.

This secondary explosive is housed within its own shaped charge container formed into the bottom of the lower bomb casing. The shape and higher force of the second blast forces the bottom of the casing to separate from its base and fly upward. In this action, it will burst open even wider into its own flower petal shape, providing additional turbulent mixing of the forming cloud with free air. The violent turbulence, in turn, causes portions of the cloud to become highly charged electrostatically as it continues to form a huge and turbulent mushroom immediately over ground zero. Explosive potential has now been reached, though optimal performance is dictated by cloud size, shape, and density -- which are again variables effected by the bomb's placement and surroundings.

The cloud is made up of a mixture of the Aqueous Ammonium Nitrate with the pulverized aluminum Silicate and N2O4 compound. Once mixed with each other and free-air oxygen under force of the first two detonations, the resulting cloud is extremely explosive in nature, electrostatically charged, decidedly cold, and awaiting only an opportunity to detonate. The shape of the cloud itself, due to the nature of the cannonade-like upward flight of the upper casing, and the blunter and delayed action of the lower casing, is somewhat tear shaped - though designs can be made to produce other shapes by nature of the original container's design. This can be a key factor in fixing the shape and focus of the blast effect.

In airburst explosions provided by conventional weapons, the blast effect is minimal due to a rapid bleed of energy in all directions as blast radius increases, with only those items beneath ground zero being subjected to blast exposure. Ground explosions, however, provide a means of deflecting otherwise wasted energy into a more desired radial blast effect. In nuclear technology, the reverse is true. A ground blast wastes energy in vaporizing and throwing up of tremendous quantities of ground materials where an air blast expands to maximum heat and blast effect forces before comming into contact with ground objects -- forming a broader circle of maximum impact. An airburst shockwave travels in air, a light medium, whereas the ground burst starts with solid matter thrown up by the blast - a heavier medium. An angular shockwave in a light medium tends to reflect when striking a solid, immovable plane such as the earth. This reradiates the energy outward and back upward (fn5), further enhancing the shockwave effects against any encountered ground structures.

If the resulting METC unit cloud can be triggered from the top down, energy transfer drives the explosion downward and takes advantage of the tear-shape cloud. To repeat, as the force of the explosion moves outward from the ignition point, it continues to ignite fresh explosive materials as encountered and the blast gains momentum rather than loosing. By controlling the original ignition point, the blast effect can become highly focused and magnified. Yet, as an airblast, the outermost zone of actual blast damage is somewhat lessened, limiting collateral damage to a given, focused blast perimeter. This is because the focused energy deflects upward instead of radiating away from ground zero parallel to the ground. Only the secondary shock wave effects would have impact on surrounding or secondary structures or objects -- such as blowing out windows, a peculiar trademark of the device (fn5) which may dictate or limit applications should the nature of the device become public and covert application be required without revealing the type of explosives used. In the case of nuclear technology, the secondary shock wave damage is much more significant due to the massive scale of the original explosive force, and so, the effective radius of the bomb is increased dramatically. METC, unless constructed on a much larger scale, need not be so described.

Where traditional military explosives provide detonation velocities of 7,000-8,100 feet per second at the blast point. These bleed off at the square of the distance from the center of ground zero. The METC unit device, in ideal applications, is capable of much higher performance in the [REDACTED] range over a larger ground zero area equal to cloud diameter -- though destructive forces immediately beneath ground zero are noticably less than at the edge of the cloud and beyond (fn6). Final velocities can be concievably higher with optimal environmental placements, bomb design, and timing. These higher velocities provide several magnitudes greater damage potential as destructive capacity can be said to increase at the square of the force applied.

This weapon would be best applied to specific hard targets (fn7) where maximum localized damage was considered more important than broad-based damaged to broader concentrations of soft targets (fn8). Its unique nature defeats normal aftermath analysis and can therefore be applied in covert actions freely, though some effort to misdirect investigations may be required in order to insure that no undue attention is placed on the unique blast characteristics or the absence of traditional flash evidence and chemical residues.

The third and final explosion, which to an observer would be seen as a second explosion due to the mere milliseconds of delay between the first two, is timed to coincide with maximum effectiveness of the expanding cloud. The cloud's expansion rate falls off at the square of the distance from the explosion (fn9). For a devices relatively small in size, a proper cloud of suitable destructive capability could be achieved in a relatively few seconds initial expansion.

Anything within the targeted blast area, is pulverized by the highly focused nature of what would otherwise be viewed as a relatively small blast. The damage effect is not dissimilar to the visual of an explosion under water, where a violent and rapid expansion takes place and then collapses inward on itself. In this case, however, as are no great hydraulic pressures to contend with, the greatest destruction takes place within a focused perimeter, as a normalized shock wave continues on. The collapse and shock waves, relative to the size of the large-volume gaseous bomb - is a remarkably lesser pressure more in keeping with the size of the original compact device.

Timing is provided by a barometric device (fn10) which senses the normalization in pressures as the cloud thins at the base and air rushes back to fill the void - the point where expansion begins to falter against air seeking to rush back into the void created by the first explosions. Remember the under-water explosion visual. The final detonating device, along with timing controls and bomb activation and triggering mechanisms for the entire weapon, is housed in an bomb base which remains in tact on the ground after the first two explosions. Resting on legs of wood, plastic, or teflon, it is electrically insulated, though there is a ground wire established for the final triggering circuit.

While it contains a battery to operate the initial timing and triggering circuits, it also contains a quartz-crystal-based pizo- electric device (fn10) capable of producing many thousands of volts of electricity when "flexed", a phenomenon which occurs naturally as a result of the downward force of the first and second explosion against the housing. This generates a large and very high-voltage charge which temporarily has no where to go, the crystal becoming its own capacitor. At a given point, the barometric timing device trips, and the charge runs up monofiliment wires attached to bottom half of the outer casing. As the casing is thrown high into the air, the filaments are played out from spools built into the base using technology and parts borrowed from wire-guided surface missiles. When the circuit is closed, these carry the charge to the cloud to produce the final, devastating explosion.

A design variant can apply the final voltage to bare filaments to create a flash-bulb effect which ignites the explosion simultaneously about a vertical column above ground zero. Alternatively, by use of heavier insulated wires stripped bare at a given point, the ignition can be caused to originate at any point between the base and the high-flying lower casing. Finally, the charge could also be applied either from the base itself for traditional blast effects, or from a peripheral position to the cloud (if calculations of cloud size and shape were adequate) for an unusual laterally-focused blast effect. However, this would be a tougher challenge to figure out and control ignition points and timing, especially since variables such as wind patterns and intensity, and air displacements from nearby structures, would need to be considered. Regardless of the focus method employed, because pizo-electric charges are only high in voltage, but not in amperage, the insulated wires do not fuse, and can carry the voltage in tact to its intended destination for ignition.

This bomb design can be subject to great miniaturization. It is possible to build a bomb the size of a soda pop (with simplified design components, such as use of blasting caps) can for use in any precise target application...

The fingerprint of a small-scale METC device applied in an aircraft or other enclosed environment would be miniscule traces of PDTN but no real traditional signature of explosives at all -- no flash damage, no normal residue levels. There would be mostly fire damage of mysterious origin, and since the blast origin point would be the full size of the cloud (most of the cabin), there would seem no blast point or traditional bomb damage at all -- just as if the aircraft "went to pieces". Investigators would be hard pressed to conclude explosives as the means of destruction.

Likewise, the bomb could enjoy great economy of scale as a weapon of mass destruction, concievably on a nuclear scale, but without traditional radiation problems. This would have significant strategic significance as targets could safely be occupied by troops immediately after attack. Seperate studies are under way to deal with the impact of such technology on military planning and foreign policy (fn11).

At this time, construction techniques and quality control requirements remain highly sophisticated and at a level which would defy normal mass production. Unless willing to accept significant performance loss, it requires custom design and construction for any given application. As such, it lends itself to uses perhaps best appreciated by the intelligence apparat. Therfore, its existence should not become general knowledge within other agencies such as DOD (fn12) unless further studies can find such a move advantageous. However, since the unique characteristics of the bomb could conceiveably arrouse great curiosity in aftermath investigations, its use as a covert tool should be undertaken with great restraint and reserved for highly selective application.

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What? a highly selective application?...

Like a Northwoods 2001 event, perhaps?

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