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Techrex
Dear People, This is a recap of an idea that I have sending to misc. Nanotechnology sites on the Net for several years now, with zero reply. That is, if we now have these multi-billion dollar lawsuits over Asbestoes poisoning, Blacklung, and Silicosis of the lungs, and now, that "Ground Zero Syndrome" lawsuits by the 9/11 rescue workers who inhaled poisons at the site of the destroyed World Trade Center towers, what if we could CURE these lung patients using Nanotechnology? We could, for example, combine several Laparoscopy surgery devices and use that to routinely clean off the surfaces of the lungs of Asbestoes poisoning patients, since often the lungs of such patients forcibly extrude the Asbestoes fibers through their exteriors, to form a toxic gunk on their surfaces, which the doctors can remove with a major operation akin to a dissection, and perhaps that operation could be miniamazed to a small incision using advanced laparoscopy surgery devices. Or, the whole Nanotechnology scientist community could join forces to invent some kind of Nanobot, microscopic robot, that could be send into the lungs of such patients to eat or vacuum away the foreign material and leave their lungs clean and intact. Remember, we are talking about saving the lives of millions of terminally-ill people, and also about multi-billion dollar lawsuits. This Asbestoes snafu even sprawned a multi-billion dollar scam industry. However, for the real victims of these diseases suing the big coprporations, the 'Mr. Deeppockets' legal SOP is simply to fillibuster these medical lawsuits for years, until the patients simply drop dead. The whole Asbestoes, Blacklung, and Silicosis medical cases picture is a real life horror movie! Anyway, the idea I have been sending around is, what if we can use EMPs, short for Electro-Magnetic Pulses, to eliminate Asbestoes or coal or Silicon particles in human lungs? During that folded SDI or Strategic Defense Initiative, also called the "Star Wars" weapons research program, done by both NASA and DARPA, they were doing extensive and very expensive, experiments in using EMPs to disintegrate the SILICON microchips of incoming missiles. So, these EMP-experts should adapt their research, (which is apparently classified; if so, they should forget about the top secret priority and use this thing, if it's technically possible, to cure the ex-nanvy aircraft carrier workers who are suing the Navy for billions of dollars, due to Silicosis of the lungs that they got on the job, DARPA is supposed to use their research to protect the military branches, etc.) to create a very narrow frequency EMP-shooter that can be used to project EMPs at a Asbestoes/Blacklung/Silicosis patient's chest while we pass an EMP-synched electrostatic charge through their chests, to SELECTIVELY dissolve the inoperable foreign matter in their lungs into stray molecules, which their lungs can then cough up, or their white blood cells eliminate. Yes, it's very far-fetched, (I'm no expert in EMPs, so I cannot say if this thing will work; I'm just trying to send this thing to the REAL experts) but not too long ago, you would have said the same thing about using sound waves to dissolve kidney stones, or knife-less brain tumor surgery by using Gamma rays. Anyway, I emailed and snail-mailed both NASA and DARPA about the EMP-idea, but they apparently have a strict policy against taking any ideas from the public. So now I am presenting this thing here in the www.physorg.com Nanotechnology forum, to splash this EMP-idea around the Nanotechnology community, as a possible approach towards curing Asbestoitis, Blacklung, and Silicosis, and hopefully the 'Ground Zero Syndrome' patients as well. That covers it.
Physfan
Yeah?
How many of these devices, do you think, would be needed to 'scrape' out every bit of a human lung, and how would these things get down into the lungs, ie what would be the entry point?
While you are at it, please tell us which planet you are on?

Physfan
philip347
You can engineer nanobots instructions into cloned epithelial cells, that are taken from same donor patient.

You need to encode instructions, into these cells, that they would act apart from their instructions as resident cells, that were one just assigned to being in resident in-lung, cells.

All nanotechnology is, is a pan term, for extra small devices, that ascribe to a certain size, which can be under the size of a human cell.

So the platen of utility use, can be ascribed to how DNA instruction, would make these groupings of sub, human sized cells, with elements of human DNA parts within them.These elements then, attack the task of removing all asbestos particles, from within the lungs.

The correct routing would be, to push the asbestos to the surface of the interior of the lungs.

If nodules are present, then the method you had suggested, might work just as well.

Nanotechnology, is only an appliance to be attached to a body recognized part.In this case human cells.

So the clairents on, follow modified DNA instructions, have to be programmed into the fragment DNA contributions, onto the NANO-beast, that is placed into those lung fields?

The second set of instructions, to to enter a certain depth into the lung tissue, to locate these pieces of asbestos.

The last order, is to surround and push to the surface, all found bits of asbestos, then if selected a sent deactivation sequence for this DNA?

Physfan
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You can engineer nanobots instructions into cloned epithelial cells, that are taken from same donor patient.


The second set of instructions, to to enter a certain depth into the lung tissue, to locate these pieces of asbestos.

The last order, is to surround and push to the surface, all found bits of asbestos, then if selected a sent deactivation sequence for this DNA?

Right? So these "cloned" cells are going to round up the small pieces of asbestos and "push" them to the surface of the lung. The what? They are collected by fairies?
Phil, The other loony, oops Techrex, was talking about 'nanobots'.

Geeeez, I like a bit of science fiction too but this isn't a science fiction web site.

Physfan
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QUOTE (philip347+Mar 5 2007, 03:44 PM)
You can engineer nanobots instructions into cloned epithelial cells, that are taken from same donor patient.

No you can't. If we had that level of technology, you would be able to have a hope of having your delusional insanity cured.
MDT
Asbestos is more of an irritant than a carcenogen. What happens is that the little fibers of asbestos stick into the lungs. The lungs try to get rid of it but the asbestos fiber is so stable that it remains. The net result are continuous immune responses and sores near the asbestos fibers. Maybe that can used as the tell sign for the nanobots. It is that little tree on the top of the hill.
philip347
The sets of logic that occur here, are One, doorways into the cell wall.

This is not a short-term fix, where nano-cells plus an aclimator, made from that persons cells are shot in and this cure is the same day.

This process, would more than likely take months to accomplish.

This would border on a mix between nanotechnogies and engineered cells.

*The reason I say, that you have to have some fragments of that persons lungs cellular structure, already in this proposed mix, is that this persons autoimunology, is already turned on, by the presence of the embedded fibers.

So you need a keyway into that lung field, that would lock on and head for a selected task, of attaching to those fibers?

Latrosicarius
Texrex, maybe the reason you don't get a reply to your spam is because you don't know what a paragraph is.

You are basically saying "hey guys, you all should invent this really cool futuristic technology", like they're gonna say "oh my gosh, all along we were just wasting money trying to figure out how nanobots work, when all we had to do was just pull them out of our collective asses!!! Now we're all zillionares thanks to you! Thank you so much Texrex!!"

I think I'm going to go home and invent antigravity tonight. Then I'll eat dinner and watch some TV, and before bed I'll cure cancer.
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