Does anti light exist?
I heard a strange claim that people suffering from strong emotional pain have a slight darkening effect on the light around them. It was claimed that this darkneing of light is too slight for a human eye to notice, but it does exist.
Is this true, or have I been reading bullox?
Never heard of this before but it sounds like bullox to me.
Easily explained: When we see something unpleasant, our pupils constrict thus affecting the amount of light entering the eye. 
QUOTE (fivedoughnut+May 6 2006, 05:36 AM)
Easily explained: When we see something unpleasant, our pupils constrict thus affecting the amount of light entering the eye.
I've been wondering about that a long time. I observed it but I never thought a sinple answer explained it.
I've been wondering about that a long time. I observed it but I never thought a sinple answer explained it.
QUOTE (Your fellow human (yfh)+May 5 2006, 02:56 PM)
Is this true, or have I been reading bullox?
I have a pretty strong Physics background and a degree in Aerospace Engineering. I feel pretty confident saying that there is no physical process that would account for this.
A supernatural or metaphysical explanation would be wrong because these things do not exist (as far as common definitions are concerned). Though, I can't prove this. The burden of proof is not mine though. I have not encountered anything that proves otherwise though. I have encountered many people trying to trick other people into believing it though.
- Dave
I have a pretty strong Physics background and a degree in Aerospace Engineering. I feel pretty confident saying that there is no physical process that would account for this.
A supernatural or metaphysical explanation would be wrong because these things do not exist (as far as common definitions are concerned). Though, I can't prove this. The burden of proof is not mine though. I have not encountered anything that proves otherwise though. I have encountered many people trying to trick other people into believing it though.
- Dave
My lease on the theory "Anti-Light" is based on the very limited understanding of Antimatter, i.e that Matter is canceled by Antimatter converting into other particles with equal energy, that said, as light is Protons which have a positive charge then "Anti-Light" would consist of a field of negatively charged Protons, hences as they are opposite they would theoretically cancel each other out....but then what form of energy would they convert to? Assuming they take any from other than light then no light would penetrate this field, provided of course that the Light and "Anti-Light" where in equal proportions, 1:1, to achieve this I would think the most plausible course would be to use a noble gas, perhaps Xenon, then the near impossible would be necessary, to strip an ample amount of negatively charged Protons from the gas and form them into a sustainable field.....
I guess it could be done but the kind of hardware needed would make it unfeasible, at lest nowadays.
I guess it could be done but the kind of hardware needed would make it unfeasible, at lest nowadays.
^ Light is photons, not protons.
Photons don't have antimatter equivalents, they are their own antimatter because all their quantum numbers are 0. Since shining two torches together doesn't cancel out, you can see that you can't get 'antilight'.
Photons don't have antimatter equivalents, they are their own antimatter because all their quantum numbers are 0. Since shining two torches together doesn't cancel out, you can see that you can't get 'antilight'.
~o~ typo..... and I said -"Anti-Light"- is so far pure speculation, its just very interesting. If all things have an opposite a -Photon would effectively be the only way to cancel out light. By the by if Photons truly do have no mass then how does a Solar Sail work and why would something with no mass still get drawn to the gravitational field of black holes? The topics concerning the physics behind light are still speculative until Quantum Physics and Common Physics are united through Quantum Gravity.
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Thanks for the question yfh. No, light does the standard physics we all know. As a retired psychiatrist/neurologist and outdoor enthusiast I've been through it.
In a major physical event the entire brain takes over and does what it can to keep body parts still connected properly, and this immediate need for neurological function involving all the brain shuts down conscious awareness of what is happening during that time. I've been through it in many downhill skiing and mountain climbing falls. I couldn't see anything at the time, but it turned out I did things that kept me in one piece.
In strong emotional situations the same thing happens. People often report dimming of vision and hearing during the intense situations but made appropriate decisions.
A lot of wild stuff people report are really normal brain function under unusual circumstances.
In a major physical event the entire brain takes over and does what it can to keep body parts still connected properly, and this immediate need for neurological function involving all the brain shuts down conscious awareness of what is happening during that time. I've been through it in many downhill skiing and mountain climbing falls. I couldn't see anything at the time, but it turned out I did things that kept me in one piece.
In strong emotional situations the same thing happens. People often report dimming of vision and hearing during the intense situations but made appropriate decisions.
A lot of wild stuff people report are really normal brain function under unusual circumstances.
I think there is a decent amount of misunderstanding here based on terminology.
Anti-sound is real. Intuitively speaking anti-light should exist as well, for the same reasons that anti-noise does. I would argue strongly that at least in theory, anti-light does actually exist.
The confusion is coming from terms like anti-matter (and anti-gravity), which are applications, in a way, of the same "out of phase" anihalation that makes anti-noise (and anihalation) possible. It would be slightly rediculous not to posit at least the possibility that light could be perfectly 180 deg out of phase with another equal intensity light. Not to mention that the wave coupling and anihalation of light in certain areas due to wave pattern interaction has been observed already.
So of the two kind of "anti's", both of which function under the same theoretical concept of phase anihalation, Anti-sound-like anti-light, in which two normal forms of wave energy we are familiar with anihalate each other, is allready proven to exist (we are NOT as good at that trick as we are at anti-noise, but I have never seen perfect sound anihation either). The other kind of "anti", anti-matter-like anti-light, in which an anti-photon exists, might not be reasonable.... For the same reason that anti-matter-like anti-noise does not exist. Ultamitely, the waveform examples are binary in nature, either the waveform exists or it does not (in the case of two waveforms that have anihalated). Whereas in the anti-particle examples it has become trinary. You have the positive-particle, the anti-particle, and the absence of both(along with all of the energy from both the particles in the anihalation). If all particles travel as waves (because of the ether in which they live), then you should be able to get anti-noise like anti-matter reactions (without positive-negative anihalation). I however think that this is unreasonable for the time being, and feel it is much more reasonable to say that the photon does not exist (nor the anti-photon) which is why anti-noise and anti-light function the same way, via wave anihalation. Sound is a compression wave within particles that interact (touch). Light may very well be a compression within the structure of the ether itself (which is why it can travel faster than photons under the right conditions)
Any responses? i am only pontificating here. Please let me know your thoughts on the logic and theory. Thanks!
Anti-sound is real. Intuitively speaking anti-light should exist as well, for the same reasons that anti-noise does. I would argue strongly that at least in theory, anti-light does actually exist.
The confusion is coming from terms like anti-matter (and anti-gravity), which are applications, in a way, of the same "out of phase" anihalation that makes anti-noise (and anihalation) possible. It would be slightly rediculous not to posit at least the possibility that light could be perfectly 180 deg out of phase with another equal intensity light. Not to mention that the wave coupling and anihalation of light in certain areas due to wave pattern interaction has been observed already.
So of the two kind of "anti's", both of which function under the same theoretical concept of phase anihalation, Anti-sound-like anti-light, in which two normal forms of wave energy we are familiar with anihalate each other, is allready proven to exist (we are NOT as good at that trick as we are at anti-noise, but I have never seen perfect sound anihation either). The other kind of "anti", anti-matter-like anti-light, in which an anti-photon exists, might not be reasonable.... For the same reason that anti-matter-like anti-noise does not exist. Ultamitely, the waveform examples are binary in nature, either the waveform exists or it does not (in the case of two waveforms that have anihalated). Whereas in the anti-particle examples it has become trinary. You have the positive-particle, the anti-particle, and the absence of both(along with all of the energy from both the particles in the anihalation). If all particles travel as waves (because of the ether in which they live), then you should be able to get anti-noise like anti-matter reactions (without positive-negative anihalation). I however think that this is unreasonable for the time being, and feel it is much more reasonable to say that the photon does not exist (nor the anti-photon) which is why anti-noise and anti-light function the same way, via wave anihalation. Sound is a compression wave within particles that interact (touch). Light may very well be a compression within the structure of the ether itself (which is why it can travel faster than photons under the right conditions)
Any responses? i am only pontificating here. Please let me know your thoughts on the logic and theory. Thanks!
There is no anti-sound or anti-gravity. Sound wave interference is based on the properties of wave propogation. Two waves with inverse amplitude will cancel each other out.
Light works the same way, but it's a bit more complicated. Wave interference does happen, but it usually effects different frequencies of light differently. If you were working with just red photons, you could create clear interference patterns. When working with white light (all frequencies) you will get a muddle of different interference patterns that obscure clear patterns. The double slit experiment is an example of EM interference gemerating clear patterns.
Light works the same way, but it's a bit more complicated. Wave interference does happen, but it usually effects different frequencies of light differently. If you were working with just red photons, you could create clear interference patterns. When working with white light (all frequencies) you will get a muddle of different interference patterns that obscure clear patterns. The double slit experiment is an example of EM interference gemerating clear patterns.
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 11 2012, 01:03 PM)
There is no anti-sound or anti-gravity. Sound wave interference is based on the properties of wave propogation. Two waves with inverse amplitude will cancel each other out.
Light works the same way, but it's a bit more complicated. Wave interference does happen, but it usually effects different frequencies of light differently. If you were working with just red photons, you could create clear interference patterns. When working with white light (all frequencies) you will get a muddle of different interference patterns that obscure clear patterns. The double slit experiment is an example of EM interference gemerating clear patterns.
sure there is < Anti Matter < Don't Matter < See
Anti light = dark
You got light and you got dark
Dark is "not light"
We can combine the 2 words into one and call it " Notlight"
Then we can get rid of the name " Dark "
How bout "Nolight" then ? Is there nolight?
Light works the same way, but it's a bit more complicated. Wave interference does happen, but it usually effects different frequencies of light differently. If you were working with just red photons, you could create clear interference patterns. When working with white light (all frequencies) you will get a muddle of different interference patterns that obscure clear patterns. The double slit experiment is an example of EM interference gemerating clear patterns.
sure there is < Anti Matter < Don't Matter < See
Anti light = dark
You got light and you got dark
Dark is "not light"
We can combine the 2 words into one and call it " Notlight"
Then we can get rid of the name " Dark "
How bout "Nolight" then ? Is there nolight?
QUOTE (Mekigal+Jul 11 2012, 10:05 AM)
sure there is < Anti Matter < Don't Matter < See
Anti light = dark
You got light and you got dark
Dark is "not light"
We can combine the 2 words into one and call it " Notlight"
Then we can get rid of the name " Dark "
How bout "Nolight" then ? Is there nolight?
Matter and anti-matter are both real things, empty space is the lack of matter or its anti-variety. "Anti" does not mean "lack of."
Anti light = dark
You got light and you got dark
Dark is "not light"
We can combine the 2 words into one and call it " Notlight"
Then we can get rid of the name " Dark "
How bout "Nolight" then ? Is there nolight?
Matter and anti-matter are both real things, empty space is the lack of matter or its anti-variety. "Anti" does not mean "lack of."
create a yearning for a sound then the absence of that sound yearned for becomes a mand. You know what a mand is ? A guy named Skinner came up with that one and I tend to agree with the whacked out Fellow Californian . My native tongue " Californication kind of thing .
When there is a mand in progress negative pressures are exuded on the surroundings .
So now we got anti- sound by the mand for sound . Not until that mand is satisfied will the negative pressure subside .
Blame look that all up and tell me I am wrong
When there is a mand in progress negative pressures are exuded on the surroundings .
So now we got anti- sound by the mand for sound . Not until that mand is satisfied will the negative pressure subside .
Blame look that all up and tell me I am wrong
I hope you're joking.
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 11 2012, 03:22 PM)
I hope you're joking.
a little bit but not really if you consider frame of reference . I think there is a misconception of frame of reference in the whole matter . At what point is there negative pressure as Rob so gently stated before my banning . I told him to pucker up and suck real hard if he wanted to experience negative pressure( no sexual pun intended althoughnow that you mention it ? )
No No the point is frame of reference . It is less than the surrounding environment so from his center of reference he did create a negative pressure. He said it was not negative pressure , but in fact from the frame he is in it is . Now if he was in deep empty space maybe not . I don't know what happens in deep empty space if you flung a human into it with out any protective pressurized covering . I think you blow up , but that might just be scifi interpretations of Hollywood.
I don't know ? I can tell you this . The bends are real . That is to say if you come up to fast from a deep water dive where the pressure is extreme you suffer the effects in a bad way . Kind of Anti negative pressure thing "extremely positive expansionism"
Seems to me if this is the case then things would tend to rush to the negative emptiness of negative pressure which is anything that is negative to the pressure your frame of reference is . To the bug getting sucked into Robs mouth the negative pressure is evident .
This all speaks to AlexG's notion that dark matter is the equivalent to negative pressure . Not that it is equal to negative pressure but might display similar qualities
Life as we know it is a Joke . I didn't invent that . Others before me set that up . It is a set up Butterfly
a little bit but not really if you consider frame of reference . I think there is a misconception of frame of reference in the whole matter . At what point is there negative pressure as Rob so gently stated before my banning . I told him to pucker up and suck real hard if he wanted to experience negative pressure( no sexual pun intended althoughnow that you mention it ? )
No No the point is frame of reference . It is less than the surrounding environment so from his center of reference he did create a negative pressure. He said it was not negative pressure , but in fact from the frame he is in it is . Now if he was in deep empty space maybe not . I don't know what happens in deep empty space if you flung a human into it with out any protective pressurized covering . I think you blow up , but that might just be scifi interpretations of Hollywood.
I don't know ? I can tell you this . The bends are real . That is to say if you come up to fast from a deep water dive where the pressure is extreme you suffer the effects in a bad way . Kind of Anti negative pressure thing "extremely positive expansionism"
Seems to me if this is the case then things would tend to rush to the negative emptiness of negative pressure which is anything that is negative to the pressure your frame of reference is . To the bug getting sucked into Robs mouth the negative pressure is evident .
This all speaks to AlexG's notion that dark matter is the equivalent to negative pressure . Not that it is equal to negative pressure but might display similar qualities
Life as we know it is a Joke . I didn't invent that . Others before me set that up . It is a set up Butterfly
This discussion is about wave interference in sound and light. I don't know why you're bringing up pressure, dark matter and relativity.
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 11 2012, 06:17 PM)
This discussion is about wave interference in sound and light. I don't know why you're bringing up pressure, dark matter and relativity.
I thought it was about anti -Light and the thread starter is the one who introduced the notion if there is anti matter why can't there be anti sound or anti light and well I was trying to show how you can theoretically have anti sound . By the craving for sound by a mand . A demand for the sound in the absence of the sound. So that all tied into frame of reference by that very thought . All relative to the relationship of the sound . You take inaudible sounds to a human ear and it is still there, but from the reference point of the human subjects ear it is not, yet that don't negate the negative sound that was created by the demand for sound and how it adds to the craving for sound by anticipation of getting to hear a sound .
Did you look up mand and get a handle on that . A tool of evolution I would say . I am thinking every thing is reliant on the ability to mand , even the gravitational pull of a planet could be considered a mand . That is how pressure got into my quotes .
By the comparison of anti sound to the desire for sound and that very demand creates the negative pressure that creates an atmosphere for sound to manifest as to satisfy the mand for sound .
I know I know . Compulsive aggravation. I am hung on the mand conception and I can't get off . Your helping though . Thanks for that .
Oh yeah it was you who was talking about wave interference . I am talking about the absence of the wave , but rather a call for a wave being the anti sound it self .
Course you got to buy into my theory of " The future pulls the past into existence and the past pushes the future into existence there by being inseparable.
You play chess . You know what a forced check mate is ? That is what I am talking about . I had this book when I was younger . I would stair at it for hours . It was samples of forced check mates . It started slow with like 2 moves to check mate . Then the puzzle book progressed up to about 20 moves to check mate . Now I think the best I ever realized was about 10 moves to check mate , but to tell you the truth you get a real since of empowerment when you even figure out 5 moves to check mate. You start to get feel for what channels are all about .
Now that may seem way off post . It is not . Just like the gravity well of a planet and its mands . Its mands that cause things to fall to the planet is like that forced check mate . You can't escape the well with out another force exerted on the object falling .
Not to say that is not like your frequency interference. It is like it but it is not when there is an absence of an object . There is still a call for an object to fall even with out an object to fall . Think of a spider and web or a trap loaded ready to spring . The potential to trap is the anti action . The trapping is the action it self and represents wave interference . The anti action was loading the trap . Or the negative aspect .
Course it is all predicated on frame of reference. The call for sound in the absence of sound is the anti-sound .
That is if we are to define any instant where we can call something anti-sound .
Or it can just stay a mythological creature in the mind of the thread starter . I am trying to provide an avenue where anti sound can be thought of as real .
Demand for sound creates anti-sound up until sound is realized as sound . It is the meaning of life today . For Me anyway .
O.K. got to go . Enough word salad for now
I thought it was about anti -Light and the thread starter is the one who introduced the notion if there is anti matter why can't there be anti sound or anti light and well I was trying to show how you can theoretically have anti sound . By the craving for sound by a mand . A demand for the sound in the absence of the sound. So that all tied into frame of reference by that very thought . All relative to the relationship of the sound . You take inaudible sounds to a human ear and it is still there, but from the reference point of the human subjects ear it is not, yet that don't negate the negative sound that was created by the demand for sound and how it adds to the craving for sound by anticipation of getting to hear a sound .
Did you look up mand and get a handle on that . A tool of evolution I would say . I am thinking every thing is reliant on the ability to mand , even the gravitational pull of a planet could be considered a mand . That is how pressure got into my quotes .
By the comparison of anti sound to the desire for sound and that very demand creates the negative pressure that creates an atmosphere for sound to manifest as to satisfy the mand for sound .
I know I know . Compulsive aggravation. I am hung on the mand conception and I can't get off . Your helping though . Thanks for that .
Oh yeah it was you who was talking about wave interference . I am talking about the absence of the wave , but rather a call for a wave being the anti sound it self .
Course you got to buy into my theory of " The future pulls the past into existence and the past pushes the future into existence there by being inseparable.
You play chess . You know what a forced check mate is ? That is what I am talking about . I had this book when I was younger . I would stair at it for hours . It was samples of forced check mates . It started slow with like 2 moves to check mate . Then the puzzle book progressed up to about 20 moves to check mate . Now I think the best I ever realized was about 10 moves to check mate , but to tell you the truth you get a real since of empowerment when you even figure out 5 moves to check mate. You start to get feel for what channels are all about .
Now that may seem way off post . It is not . Just like the gravity well of a planet and its mands . Its mands that cause things to fall to the planet is like that forced check mate . You can't escape the well with out another force exerted on the object falling .
Not to say that is not like your frequency interference. It is like it but it is not when there is an absence of an object . There is still a call for an object to fall even with out an object to fall . Think of a spider and web or a trap loaded ready to spring . The potential to trap is the anti action . The trapping is the action it self and represents wave interference . The anti action was loading the trap . Or the negative aspect .
Course it is all predicated on frame of reference. The call for sound in the absence of sound is the anti-sound .
That is if we are to define any instant where we can call something anti-sound .
Or it can just stay a mythological creature in the mind of the thread starter . I am trying to provide an avenue where anti sound can be thought of as real .
Demand for sound creates anti-sound up until sound is realized as sound . It is the meaning of life today . For Me anyway .
O.K. got to go . Enough word salad for now
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 11 2012, 01:03 PM)
There is no anti-sound or anti-gravity. Sound wave interference is based on the properties of wave propogation. Two waves with inverse amplitude will cancel each other out.
Light works the same way, but it's a bit more complicated. Wave interference does happen, but it usually effects different frequencies of light differently. If you were working with just red photons, you could create clear interference patterns. When working with white light (all frequencies) you will get a muddle of different interference patterns that obscure clear patterns. The double slit experiment is an example of EM interference gemerating clear patterns.
Where's the math to back this up?
Light works the same way, but it's a bit more complicated. Wave interference does happen, but it usually effects different frequencies of light differently. If you were working with just red photons, you could create clear interference patterns. When working with white light (all frequencies) you will get a muddle of different interference patterns that obscure clear patterns. The double slit experiment is an example of EM interference gemerating clear patterns.
Where's the math to back this up?
QUOTE (Whitewolf4869+Jul 11 2012, 07:29 PM)
Where's the math to back this up?
I don't speak math, and neither do you. If I were to provide a correct and exhaustive response to that question, you wouldn't be able to tell whether it was correct or if I made it up.
Here are the references to what I'm talking about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_interference
I don't speak math, and neither do you. If I were to provide a correct and exhaustive response to that question, you wouldn't be able to tell whether it was correct or if I made it up.
Here are the references to what I'm talking about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_interference
If you are standing with a white light bulb above and to your right and a white light bulb above and to your left.
How many shadows will you see on the ground?
How many shadows will you see on the ground?
I read an article like a year ago which discussed the chirality of light as well as fractal nature of light under some conditions. It appears the light is not a simple symmetrical entity, but has fractal behavior with patches of "light" and "darkness" contained together in various patterns.
I believe it was a phys dot org article, but I'm not sure.
Moreover, in some sense, darkness must be a "thing" even though we ordinarily don't think about it that way.
After all, what is the "vacuum"?
What is "Zero Point"?
What is there when "Light" is not?
Light controls the orbits of the electron, even when it is not visible to the eye or any detection device, therefore "anti-light" may well exist in concept even if it isn't naturally classified, quantified, or described yet.
If there was a Big Bang, or whatever creative event God chose to use, how is energy conserved if light/photons don't have an anti-particle?
In normal universal physics, if photons spontaneously appear, conservation is maintained as long as they move in exactly opposite directions.
But what about Hawking's "Negative Energy" as a conjecture to conserve energy at the moment of creation?
Would that not imply "Anti-Photons"?!?
I believe it was a phys dot org article, but I'm not sure.
Moreover, in some sense, darkness must be a "thing" even though we ordinarily don't think about it that way.
After all, what is the "vacuum"?
What is "Zero Point"?
What is there when "Light" is not?
Light controls the orbits of the electron, even when it is not visible to the eye or any detection device, therefore "anti-light" may well exist in concept even if it isn't naturally classified, quantified, or described yet.
If there was a Big Bang, or whatever creative event God chose to use, how is energy conserved if light/photons don't have an anti-particle?
In normal universal physics, if photons spontaneously appear, conservation is maintained as long as they move in exactly opposite directions.
But what about Hawking's "Negative Energy" as a conjecture to conserve energy at the moment of creation?
Would that not imply "Anti-Photons"?!?
QUOTE (Quantum_Conundrum+Jul 15 2012, 07:25 PM)
Moreover, in some sense, darkness must be a "thing" even though we ordinarily don't think about it that way.
You're going to need a lot more than a partially remembered physorg article to back that up.
You're going to need a lot more than a partially remembered physorg article to back that up.
QUOTE (Your fellow human (yfh)+May 5 2006, 02:56 PM)
Does anti light exist?
I heard a strange claim that people suffering from strong emotional pain have a slight darkening effect on the light around them. It was claimed that this darkneing of light is too slight for a human eye to notice, but it does exist.
Is this true, or have I been reading bullox?
Photons are their own anti-particle, fwiw.
I heard a strange claim that people suffering from strong emotional pain have a slight darkening effect on the light around them. It was claimed that this darkneing of light is too slight for a human eye to notice, but it does exist.
Is this true, or have I been reading bullox?
Photons are their own anti-particle, fwiw.
QUOTE (Quantum_Conundrum+Jul 15 2012, 11:25 PM)
I read an article like a year ago which discussed the chirality of light as well as fractal nature of light under some conditions. It appears the light is not a simple symmetrical entity, but has fractal behavior with patches of "light" and "darkness" contained together in various patterns.
Celestial Chiaroscuro, I love it.
Obviously, QC, since I've been saying similar things for the past five years (and been more or less reamed for it), I would love it if you could provide a link to this article. e.g. GOOGLE SEARCH: The Fine Structure Constant As Fractal Construct?, A "Physio-theoretical" Exploration
As for chirality of light, the article was probably referencing in some manner circular polarization.
Best,
Raphie
P.S. The fine structure constant can be thought of as the ratio between the velocity of an electron and the speed of light. As such, if light has a fractal component, it follows that... FILL IN THE BLANK
P.P.S. Spacetime May Have Fractal Properties on a Quantum Scale
by Lisa Zyga 3/25/2009
http://phys.org/news157203574.html
Celestial Chiaroscuro, I love it.
Obviously, QC, since I've been saying similar things for the past five years (and been more or less reamed for it), I would love it if you could provide a link to this article. e.g. GOOGLE SEARCH: The Fine Structure Constant As Fractal Construct?, A "Physio-theoretical" Exploration
As for chirality of light, the article was probably referencing in some manner circular polarization.
Best,
Raphie
P.S. The fine structure constant can be thought of as the ratio between the velocity of an electron and the speed of light. As such, if light has a fractal component, it follows that... FILL IN THE BLANK
P.P.S. Spacetime May Have Fractal Properties on a Quantum Scale
by Lisa Zyga 3/25/2009
http://phys.org/news157203574.html
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Jul 17 2012, 02:59 PM)
Celestial Chiaroscuro, I love it.
Obviously, QC, since I've been saying similar things for the past five years (and been more or less reamed for it), I would love it if you could provide a link to this article. e.g. GOOGLE SEARCH: The Fine Structure Constant As Fractal Construct?, A "Physio-theoretical" Exploration
As for chirality of light, the article was probably referencing in some manner circular polarization.
Best,
Raphie
P.S. The fine structure constant can be thought of as the ratio between the velocity of an electron and the speed of light. As such, if light has a fractal component, it follows that... FILL IN THE BLANK
P.P.S. Spacetime May Have Fractal Properties on a Quantum Scale
by Lisa Zyga 3/25/2009
http://phys.org/news157203574.html
...there exist no such thing as smallest entity.
and that infinity is not a physical concept, is not a concept that can be embrassed by human mind.
everything strictly in accordance with the ideas of the 3D pixel Universe, where the initial conditions involve among others the paradox that discrete and continuous must coexist and where the outfolding into discrete and continuous, respectively, is a process that cannot be grasped by human mind (again strictly personal and according to definitions only involves my brain).
The above is pure speculations and is strictly nonscientific
PS One can also say that perceiving takes discretion.
Obviously, QC, since I've been saying similar things for the past five years (and been more or less reamed for it), I would love it if you could provide a link to this article. e.g. GOOGLE SEARCH: The Fine Structure Constant As Fractal Construct?, A "Physio-theoretical" Exploration
As for chirality of light, the article was probably referencing in some manner circular polarization.
Best,
Raphie
P.S. The fine structure constant can be thought of as the ratio between the velocity of an electron and the speed of light. As such, if light has a fractal component, it follows that... FILL IN THE BLANK
P.P.S. Spacetime May Have Fractal Properties on a Quantum Scale
by Lisa Zyga 3/25/2009
http://phys.org/news157203574.html
QUOTE
it follows that... FILL IN THE BLANK
...there exist no such thing as smallest entity.
and that infinity is not a physical concept, is not a concept that can be embrassed by human mind.
everything strictly in accordance with the ideas of the 3D pixel Universe, where the initial conditions involve among others the paradox that discrete and continuous must coexist and where the outfolding into discrete and continuous, respectively, is a process that cannot be grasped by human mind (again strictly personal and according to definitions only involves my brain).
The above is pure speculations and is strictly nonscientific
PS One can also say that perceiving takes discretion.
QUOTE (niels+Jul 18 2012, 09:30 AM)
...there exist no such thing as smallest entity.
"no such thing as smallest entity" So, uh, water can, like, be a liquid at at five degrees above absolute zero, eh?
The chirality of light is not speculation, btw. And the following was written by a scientist:
Benedetti, Dario. “Fractal Properties of Quantum Spacetime.” Physical Review Letters 102, 111303 (2009).
Read more at: http://phys.org/news157203574.html#jCp
"no such thing as smallest entity" So, uh, water can, like, be a liquid at at five degrees above absolute zero, eh?
The chirality of light is not speculation, btw. And the following was written by a scientist:
Benedetti, Dario. “Fractal Properties of Quantum Spacetime.” Physical Review Letters 102, 111303 (2009).
Read more at: http://phys.org/news157203574.html#jCp
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Jul 18 2012, 07:04 AM)
The chirality of light is not speculation, btw. And the following was written by a scientist:
Benedetti, Dario. “Fractal Properties of Quantum Spacetime.” Physical Review Letters 102, 111303 (2009).
Read more at: http://phys.org/news157203574.html#jCp
What does that article have to do with the alleged chirality of light?
Benedetti, Dario. “Fractal Properties of Quantum Spacetime.” Physical Review Letters 102, 111303 (2009).
Read more at: http://phys.org/news157203574.html#jCp
What does that article have to do with the alleged chirality of light?
well mobius anyway.
Does light do that or not ?
Is the left superimposed on the right. Telescopes do that right . Unless you have another lens to reverse it back . Mirrors and light do that right ?
If you label each reflection a to b when ever you have a reflective mirror image .
Side a connects to side b . Is that how you interpret that ?
It is a little strange when you start to think about it ?
How can you transverse both sides with out a brake .
Well your flipping in the twist . Side a is matched with side b
We use to do this in Karate . The instructor would stand face to face and say mirror Me.
The instructor would do it left handed and the student would mirror and do it right handed .
How does that tie to anti-light.
Does light do that or not ?
Is the left superimposed on the right. Telescopes do that right . Unless you have another lens to reverse it back . Mirrors and light do that right ?
If you label each reflection a to b when ever you have a reflective mirror image .
Side a connects to side b . Is that how you interpret that ?
It is a little strange when you start to think about it ?
How can you transverse both sides with out a brake .
Well your flipping in the twist . Side a is matched with side b
We use to do this in Karate . The instructor would stand face to face and say mirror Me.
The instructor would do it left handed and the student would mirror and do it right handed .
How does that tie to anti-light.
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 18 2012, 02:03 PM)
What does that article have to do with the alleged chirality of light?
It's a different article obviously supporting a different point, that fractals play a role in the general machinery of, for lack of a better term, the Cosmos. In other words, chirality of light is not related to that specific article.
I would love to know the article QC was referring to and my guess is that circular polarization was involved somewhere along the way in that article since that, in relation to light, is where chirality comes in to play.
e.g.
Circularly polarized luminescence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_pola...ed_luminescence
Sorry if I was unclear.
- RF
It's a different article obviously supporting a different point, that fractals play a role in the general machinery of, for lack of a better term, the Cosmos. In other words, chirality of light is not related to that specific article.
I would love to know the article QC was referring to and my guess is that circular polarization was involved somewhere along the way in that article since that, in relation to light, is where chirality comes in to play.
e.g.
Circularly polarized luminescence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_pola...ed_luminescence
Sorry if I was unclear.
- RF
QUOTE (Your fellow human (yfh)+May 5 2006, 02:56 PM)
Does anti light exist?
I heard a strange claim that people suffering from strong emotional pain have a slight darkening effect on the light around them. It was claimed that this darkneing of light is too slight for a human eye to notice, but it does exist.
Is this true, or have I been reading bullox?
Now, let's imagine that the phenomeneon you are mentioning is real and has actually been measured. How to account for it. Just as a beginning thought...
Circular Dichroism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_pola...cular_dichroism
It's quite a stretch to go from "biological molecules" to the entire gestalt that is a human being, but for me it seems not beyond the realm of possibility that somehow one's "self energy" gets polarized inward during times of acute distress. In other words, the light around them doesn't get darker, rather they get, relatively speaking, brighter, which might well record on a photographic plate as everything else getting darker. Visually speaking, though not physically speaking, just think of what happens to the background when you take a flash picture of someone at night.
Just call it, lacking any other term, "emotional anisotropy"
- RF
I heard a strange claim that people suffering from strong emotional pain have a slight darkening effect on the light around them. It was claimed that this darkneing of light is too slight for a human eye to notice, but it does exist.
Is this true, or have I been reading bullox?
Now, let's imagine that the phenomeneon you are mentioning is real and has actually been measured. How to account for it. Just as a beginning thought...
Circular Dichroism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_pola...cular_dichroism
It's quite a stretch to go from "biological molecules" to the entire gestalt that is a human being, but for me it seems not beyond the realm of possibility that somehow one's "self energy" gets polarized inward during times of acute distress. In other words, the light around them doesn't get darker, rather they get, relatively speaking, brighter, which might well record on a photographic plate as everything else getting darker. Visually speaking, though not physically speaking, just think of what happens to the background when you take a flash picture of someone at night.
Just call it, lacking any other term, "emotional anisotropy"
- RF
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Jul 18 2012, 11:04 AM)
"no such thing as smallest entity" So, uh, water can, like, be a liquid at at five degrees above absolute zero, eh?
The chirality of light is not speculation, btw. And the following was written by a scientist:
Benedetti, Dario. “Fractal Properties of Quantum Spacetime.” Physical Review Letters 102, 111303 (2009).
Read more at: http://phys.org/news157203574.html#jCp
@So, uh, water can, like, be a liquid at at five degrees above absolute zero, eh?@
Well, taken to the extreme everyting relating to physical perhaps best can be defined as being of a liquid nature.
What about a nearly ideal solid, would it be totally wrong to define such a structure as a very very slowly changing solid, and therefore a very very slowly changing liquid.
The chirality of light is not speculation, btw. And the following was written by a scientist:
Benedetti, Dario. “Fractal Properties of Quantum Spacetime.” Physical Review Letters 102, 111303 (2009).
Read more at: http://phys.org/news157203574.html#jCp
@So, uh, water can, like, be a liquid at at five degrees above absolute zero, eh?@
Well, taken to the extreme everyting relating to physical perhaps best can be defined as being of a liquid nature.
What about a nearly ideal solid, would it be totally wrong to define such a structure as a very very slowly changing solid, and therefore a very very slowly changing liquid.
That is kind of interesting Raphie.
That would play into the hidden language quite well . and if a human can sense that darkening on a subliminal level then you can imagine how the information can be transferred from one to the other by frequencies with coding in them .
Now check this out . Tears make up different chemical solutions then just water eyes with out the emotion . I am thinking when you cry the reasons drip out on your face and at a subliminal level other humans can perceive and interpret the coding of the tears by there chemical make up.
Something has to transmit this hidden language . It a little frustrating to read it and not know how it is being read . But to witness it being read and responded to knowing it is real is the frustrating part . That some one can see it and dispel my antics as valid research in hidden communication . That would be grand .
The tears in your eyes just don't lie . Have you ever heard that expression .
My mother would say ( as I would cry my self silly as a child cause I had friends )
She would say < Go wash your face son so no one knows you been crying . That stuck with me as a superstition. That every one would know when I cry and then go out in public .
Maybe she was right and the subliminal mind of humans can detect the coded eye moisture on someones check . Maybe by the pattern that the chemical make up displays on the face skin .
I tell you what I can see the difference in responses based on the mood tell even when my mood has changed but the tears have not been washed away .
I am pretty sure that is not imaginary . More testing and mapping is required to match up the results .
There is a hidden language . All the mechanisms are what are in question. Not that there is a hidden language . There is . It is not my imagination .
It is like lets say some one is brutally murdered . You don't know it until the story comes out . Yet if you where the cop that made the discovery you are at the front line of that event field . The trickle of information is not the trickle for the cops on the scene . It is more of a flood of information visually , by smell touch and sound. Now how much of this information is implied in the press report for consumption , out side of the verbalization. It is a trickle like it was damned up consciously . But we get the feeling of guilty or not guilty regardless . It may turn out different than that gut reaction , yet there appears to be something else going on driving the decision process going on . Lets take O.J. for example . Most people I would venture to guess see him as guilty even though he was found innocent. When he was put in Jail for his latest behavior? what was the response by the public . He was severed justice finally .
Now I am not saying he was guilty or not . That is not the subject . The Subject is the group or swarm saw him as guilty and he got his in the end . The public felt resolution by the sentence handed down by the judge for his new act . Like he got his in the end by adjacent means of behavior yet in the public eye he was still being punished for his assumed guiltiness of which he was found innocent.
The question is why the public can't let it go . The first deed of his ex. Logically they should not be tied together. Yet in the mind set of the swarm they are and he got his just rewards .
You got to consider it may have gone different if the first high profile event never happened . There may have been benefit of doubt at play.
So the thing is the bystanders are not privy to all the information but the masses of public sentiment make there conclusions based on something that acted as a trigger .
That trigger response is what I am alluding to . The things that pull the trigger .
This is some what off base hear yet it is not . Coding and the hidden effects of the coding . We already know information can be coded in a light beam .
So what lead to this massive word salad ?
The inward polarization quote . I can see easily how that inward can manifest in subliminal outward appearances and how it could be a change in someones field of operation considering we do give off electrical charge . Is that charge coded with our thoughts ?
Some of the mind robotics connections that have been invented picking up on impulses of a persons mind tell me so. The way an M.R.I. can photograph a person brain thinking tells me so also .
This leads to bigger things and not just the human brain , but a possible rule for all objects as it relates to the coded information in the objects. Not that there is a big information stream coming in by way of light but rather building blocks of light division like computer code . 0s and 1s in a light beam . On and off switches . You you add spectrum to the mix and someone like me has to wonder how many matrices can you create from the totality of the spectrum of light . I mean Look at all combinations of color you can produce by the limited primary colors
There is a bigger you that perceives the subtle changes in fields . I got to believe this . Why would the human animal be any different than a farm animal that can sense electrical charge . It is a scientific fact that they can is the thing .
We call it the equal potential plane and all electrical wiring has to be grounded out so farm animals don't go cray wacko in a facility. WE take rods of copper and drive them in the ground at 45% angles ideally at any entrance into the barn area then all electrical is grounded . It is a code requirement when doing industrial construction of live stock buildings .
I believe we too are sensitive to the charge . Modern Life has desensitized the human mind so now it is still there but the conscious mind ignores the signals, but the subliminal mind perceives it like it has always done .
Another words Human Instinct is in tact , but blocked by modern consciousness.
I suspect that ancient humans made a conscious decision to split the 2 forms of thought and that lead to modern society as we know it now .
Where we have the feeling thoughts are private , but in reality they are public domain
If all that is true you can see my beef with the idea of intellectual property . Where all thoughts are public domain and by climbing the information ladders in life the same conclusions can be reached independent of each other yet have the appearance of plagiarism.
Also have the appearance of the same particles showing up in different location at the same time . by Identical conclusions sharing different space.
Like yesterday that guy that thought if he made a perfect copy of him self and killed the original would the copy go on and be the real him. . What if it happened independently in a different time and space . Which one would be the copy then ?
That would play into the hidden language quite well . and if a human can sense that darkening on a subliminal level then you can imagine how the information can be transferred from one to the other by frequencies with coding in them .
Now check this out . Tears make up different chemical solutions then just water eyes with out the emotion . I am thinking when you cry the reasons drip out on your face and at a subliminal level other humans can perceive and interpret the coding of the tears by there chemical make up.
Something has to transmit this hidden language . It a little frustrating to read it and not know how it is being read . But to witness it being read and responded to knowing it is real is the frustrating part . That some one can see it and dispel my antics as valid research in hidden communication . That would be grand .
The tears in your eyes just don't lie . Have you ever heard that expression .
My mother would say ( as I would cry my self silly as a child cause I had friends )
She would say < Go wash your face son so no one knows you been crying . That stuck with me as a superstition. That every one would know when I cry and then go out in public .
Maybe she was right and the subliminal mind of humans can detect the coded eye moisture on someones check . Maybe by the pattern that the chemical make up displays on the face skin .
I tell you what I can see the difference in responses based on the mood tell even when my mood has changed but the tears have not been washed away .
I am pretty sure that is not imaginary . More testing and mapping is required to match up the results .
There is a hidden language . All the mechanisms are what are in question. Not that there is a hidden language . There is . It is not my imagination .
It is like lets say some one is brutally murdered . You don't know it until the story comes out . Yet if you where the cop that made the discovery you are at the front line of that event field . The trickle of information is not the trickle for the cops on the scene . It is more of a flood of information visually , by smell touch and sound. Now how much of this information is implied in the press report for consumption , out side of the verbalization. It is a trickle like it was damned up consciously . But we get the feeling of guilty or not guilty regardless . It may turn out different than that gut reaction , yet there appears to be something else going on driving the decision process going on . Lets take O.J. for example . Most people I would venture to guess see him as guilty even though he was found innocent. When he was put in Jail for his latest behavior? what was the response by the public . He was severed justice finally .
Now I am not saying he was guilty or not . That is not the subject . The Subject is the group or swarm saw him as guilty and he got his in the end . The public felt resolution by the sentence handed down by the judge for his new act . Like he got his in the end by adjacent means of behavior yet in the public eye he was still being punished for his assumed guiltiness of which he was found innocent.
The question is why the public can't let it go . The first deed of his ex. Logically they should not be tied together. Yet in the mind set of the swarm they are and he got his just rewards .
You got to consider it may have gone different if the first high profile event never happened . There may have been benefit of doubt at play.
So the thing is the bystanders are not privy to all the information but the masses of public sentiment make there conclusions based on something that acted as a trigger .
That trigger response is what I am alluding to . The things that pull the trigger .
This is some what off base hear yet it is not . Coding and the hidden effects of the coding . We already know information can be coded in a light beam .
So what lead to this massive word salad ?
The inward polarization quote . I can see easily how that inward can manifest in subliminal outward appearances and how it could be a change in someones field of operation considering we do give off electrical charge . Is that charge coded with our thoughts ?
Some of the mind robotics connections that have been invented picking up on impulses of a persons mind tell me so. The way an M.R.I. can photograph a person brain thinking tells me so also .
This leads to bigger things and not just the human brain , but a possible rule for all objects as it relates to the coded information in the objects. Not that there is a big information stream coming in by way of light but rather building blocks of light division like computer code . 0s and 1s in a light beam . On and off switches . You you add spectrum to the mix and someone like me has to wonder how many matrices can you create from the totality of the spectrum of light . I mean Look at all combinations of color you can produce by the limited primary colors
There is a bigger you that perceives the subtle changes in fields . I got to believe this . Why would the human animal be any different than a farm animal that can sense electrical charge . It is a scientific fact that they can is the thing .
We call it the equal potential plane and all electrical wiring has to be grounded out so farm animals don't go cray wacko in a facility. WE take rods of copper and drive them in the ground at 45% angles ideally at any entrance into the barn area then all electrical is grounded . It is a code requirement when doing industrial construction of live stock buildings .
I believe we too are sensitive to the charge . Modern Life has desensitized the human mind so now it is still there but the conscious mind ignores the signals, but the subliminal mind perceives it like it has always done .
Another words Human Instinct is in tact , but blocked by modern consciousness.
I suspect that ancient humans made a conscious decision to split the 2 forms of thought and that lead to modern society as we know it now .
Where we have the feeling thoughts are private , but in reality they are public domain
If all that is true you can see my beef with the idea of intellectual property . Where all thoughts are public domain and by climbing the information ladders in life the same conclusions can be reached independent of each other yet have the appearance of plagiarism.
Also have the appearance of the same particles showing up in different location at the same time . by Identical conclusions sharing different space.
Like yesterday that guy that thought if he made a perfect copy of him self and killed the original would the copy go on and be the real him. . What if it happened independently in a different time and space . Which one would be the copy then ?
QUOTE (niels+Jul 18 2012, 09:26 PM)
@So, uh, water can, like, be a liquid at at five degrees above absolute zero, eh?@
Well, taken to the extreme everyting relating to physical perhaps best can be defined as being of a liquid nature.
What about a nearly ideal solid, would it be totally wrong to define such a structure as a very very slowly changing solid, and therefore a very very slowly changing liquid.
I wonder how close that line follows prime numbers ? looks familiar. It might follow some kind of function ? Mirror a function or a function can be created by that line perhaps.
O.K. I thought dimensions in string theory brake down when there is more than 11 dimensions. The math starts to brake down . M theory is all about 11 dimensions.
Except there is a university that is playing with 12 dimensions where the 12th is out of phase with the other dimensions and they call that F theory. The F is designated a Father . That is where they got F . I don't know what that implies . A governor valve maybe . Dimensional oversight perhaps . Surly it can't be a creationist view point of dimensions. I am thinking more governor valve type operations if that turns out legit. The 12 th dimension as the control mechanism for the 11.
I don't know ? Way out there at best
Water being liquid at the temp . Is that due to the relaxed state in string theory ?
Vibration of the atoms them selves relax ?
Creepy stuff
Well, taken to the extreme everyting relating to physical perhaps best can be defined as being of a liquid nature.
What about a nearly ideal solid, would it be totally wrong to define such a structure as a very very slowly changing solid, and therefore a very very slowly changing liquid.
I wonder how close that line follows prime numbers ? looks familiar. It might follow some kind of function ? Mirror a function or a function can be created by that line perhaps.
O.K. I thought dimensions in string theory brake down when there is more than 11 dimensions. The math starts to brake down . M theory is all about 11 dimensions.
Except there is a university that is playing with 12 dimensions where the 12th is out of phase with the other dimensions and they call that F theory. The F is designated a Father . That is where they got F . I don't know what that implies . A governor valve maybe . Dimensional oversight perhaps . Surly it can't be a creationist view point of dimensions. I am thinking more governor valve type operations if that turns out legit. The 12 th dimension as the control mechanism for the 11.
I don't know ? Way out there at best
Water being liquid at the temp . Is that due to the relaxed state in string theory ?
Vibration of the atoms them selves relax ?
Creepy stuff
Mekigal, that we communicate without knowing that we are communicating is, I believe, a given. And sometimes "We" communicate. Imagine the Yankees were in the World Series and lost, but I didn't know it (unlikely since I am a Yankees fan). I could probably make a pretty good guess the next day just by walking out and about the next day and "measuring" the mood. Are people happier? Are they friendlier? Sullen and nasty? 9 times out of 10 you could probably correctly guess the outcome of the Game on the basis of that alone.
(By monitoring online communications on the likes of Facebook, researchers have already shown that day of the week affects mood.)
In a pseudoscientific vein, but with the caveat that yesterday's pseudoscience might well be tomorrow's science, you might want to take a look sometime at "The Secret Life of Plants." (1973), bearing in mind the somewhat oxymoronic neologism "osmotic sentience."
- RF
(By monitoring online communications on the likes of Facebook, researchers have already shown that day of the week affects mood.)
In a pseudoscientific vein, but with the caveat that yesterday's pseudoscience might well be tomorrow's science, you might want to take a look sometime at "The Secret Life of Plants." (1973), bearing in mind the somewhat oxymoronic neologism "osmotic sentience."
- RF
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Jul 18 2012, 10:24 PM)
Mekigal, that we communicate without knowing that we are communicating is, I believe, a given. And sometimes "We" communicate. Imagine the Yankees were in the World Series and lost, but I didn't know it (unlikely since I am a Yankees fan). I could probably make a pretty good guess the next day just by walking out and about the next day and "measuring" the mood. Are people happier? Are they friendlier? Sullen and nasty? 9 times out of 10 you could probably correctly guess the outcome of the Game on the basis of that alone.
(By monitoring online communications on the likes of Facebook, researchers have already shown that day of the week affects mood.)
In a pseudoscientific vein, but with the caveat that yesterday's pseudoscience might well be tomorrow's science, you might want to take a look sometime at "The Secret Life of Plants." (1973), bearing in mind the somewhat oxymoronic neologism "osmotic sentience."
- RF
Great . I got to check that out . I don't know that it is a given ? It is coherent and im not talking about reflective evidence . I am talking about coherent language at the source as a language it self and that at the source controls the the tail so to speak .
The lag time from an event to its reflection . When you see that body language on the street that is a good example , but it is reflective of the event . I am saying the event is not a random occurrence. It is directed by the information unfolding. The event string after that is reflective of the event . Like fall out . If that is true it can be tract.
What I am talking about is changing the course of history . It is an action plan after all . Jumping time . Jumping the world in time .
Mainly so we become a first world civilization.
But that is not all . We are on the cutting edge of discovery in that mood music you just described.
Music is my business so there you go .
I am glad you agree there is a hidden language . It has been creeping me out for a long time . It knows my name . You should of heard it the last couple days .
O.K. hear goes . So one of our friends here brakes his arm . That is strange but not so strange that it is alarming . People brake there arms all the time . So that was not that long ago . I don't know if he just broke his arm or if he is just still healing . Don't know but curious yes .
Well Tuesday night we have band rehearsal and the drummer tells this story about crashing on his bike . He has w witness with him . He says the front bike wheel froze up and it flipped him like a mouse trap . Hit his shoulder and rashed up good from skidding on the ground . They checked the scene and could find no reason for his front tire to just stop . Then he looked at Me and said . God was tring to tell Me something and I don't know what it means . His buddy agreed because of the mystery of experience riders having issues like that .
I am thinking to my self that is exactly how I broke my arm on Halloween when I was 13 . No big deal lots of people brake there arms .
So today was the limit . I got a water leak . Just started last night . Night Mare day because of it . I have no water tonight . No big deal I have been a builder for 40 years . I was just looking at it most of the day saying *** *** . It is the shut off valve . I need a *** curb key to turn off the water at the street . Anyway I should be going to storage to get the shop vac and start sucking up water . I procrastinate . Dink around thinking What is the matter with Me why am I not getting after this . I go to store and some woman says to someone else . Your moving kind of slow don't you think you should be getting after it . I am think your reading my mind Then the other person she is talking to looks at me and laughs, Ha Ha Ha as I walk by . As usual I am thinking no not again . This is strange . I finally go to my storage and as I turn in a biker passes and I let him go by . He waves and smiles and nods his head then he winks at Me and I am thinking What was the deal with that biker . He was just a little to strange. I get my shop vac put it in the truck and head on out . Now it is gated storage yet the gate was open going in and leaving . So that was out of the ordinary and caused Me to wonder what is going on . So shorty after I turn on to the street I see accident up the road . A biker . I think to my self My son just got off work he is riding his bike and this is right by his work . IT looks like like laying in the street . I cut across traffic and pull into the car wash jump out of the truck and sure enough it is him laying in the middle of the street , A mail Nurse was a witness and gave him first aid , There was a crowd gathered and one of his coworkers had stopped also to help . He hurt his shoulder and broke his arm and I was there about 2 minutes after it happened . Right there and my drummers story was front and center
Now they may not seem connected and it could be my disjointed dyslexic mind connecting them together. I don't think so I think it is long count communication and the drummer story was a precursor warning of and event field unfolding .
Not that it is God intervention but an entanglement of events by triggers that seem unconnected but are connected by this entanglement .
Oh Yeah when I was waiting just before the paramedics and ambulance showed . I could hear Mikel < Mikel Mikel . It was like squealing like fairies or like you would imagine fairies would sound . Then a high pitched laugh . I didn't imagine that . I have a trained ear . One that can distinguish different sounds orientation because of hear training . I understand phantom sound pretty good . Resonance . There was no identifiable source of that name squeal . It really sounded like it was coming from the people huddled around my son . They were milling around at that point . Could have been the siren on the ambulance and I was in a state of shook from seeing my son lay on the grown and my mind distorted the sound because of my bias . I don't know that is possible . It sounded like it was coming from the people like they were talking in a funny foreign tongue. That is what it sounded like and they were saying Mikel < Mikel Mikel he he he he Mikel he he he he he I swear on my profession as a carpenter that is what happened today . I had the premonition before I saw him laying on the ground. That is easy to explain as I know subliminally he would be getting off work and it could be him .
The drummer story is the wrench in the wheel and I think my knowledge of the member here who broke his arm is part of the same loop . His trigger was telling Me and who ever else was there about his broken arm .
I been messing with slow time . It is a different state of being . There is a language in this slow time . That rush of seeing my son on the ground . That is the same slow time I am talking about. Later I was filling the prescription and in slow time I could see the language traveling from person to person. It was strange but I been studying this for a while and it was stranger than normal . It was flowing back and forth but they were all strangers . They didn't know each other . They acted like they did and could swear they talking about the events of the day . In slow motion .
I need my new friend that knows I am dyslexic . The Nymph. It is not psychotic episodes . No No . I am calm and rational . He is fine . He may need surgery but probably not .
That woman who hit him was really shook up . Maybe this is the catcher . I put my hand on her last thing before heading to the hospital and said , It will be o>k. no worries . She had a tear in her eye and said tank you for saying that.
I don't know ? Cary day . Momma never told me there would be days like this .
In the mean Time I have no *** water. Is that a bunch of *** or what
(By monitoring online communications on the likes of Facebook, researchers have already shown that day of the week affects mood.)
In a pseudoscientific vein, but with the caveat that yesterday's pseudoscience might well be tomorrow's science, you might want to take a look sometime at "The Secret Life of Plants." (1973), bearing in mind the somewhat oxymoronic neologism "osmotic sentience."
- RF
Great . I got to check that out . I don't know that it is a given ? It is coherent and im not talking about reflective evidence . I am talking about coherent language at the source as a language it self and that at the source controls the the tail so to speak .
The lag time from an event to its reflection . When you see that body language on the street that is a good example , but it is reflective of the event . I am saying the event is not a random occurrence. It is directed by the information unfolding. The event string after that is reflective of the event . Like fall out . If that is true it can be tract.
What I am talking about is changing the course of history . It is an action plan after all . Jumping time . Jumping the world in time .
Mainly so we become a first world civilization.
But that is not all . We are on the cutting edge of discovery in that mood music you just described.
Music is my business so there you go .
I am glad you agree there is a hidden language . It has been creeping me out for a long time . It knows my name . You should of heard it the last couple days .
O.K. hear goes . So one of our friends here brakes his arm . That is strange but not so strange that it is alarming . People brake there arms all the time . So that was not that long ago . I don't know if he just broke his arm or if he is just still healing . Don't know but curious yes .
Well Tuesday night we have band rehearsal and the drummer tells this story about crashing on his bike . He has w witness with him . He says the front bike wheel froze up and it flipped him like a mouse trap . Hit his shoulder and rashed up good from skidding on the ground . They checked the scene and could find no reason for his front tire to just stop . Then he looked at Me and said . God was tring to tell Me something and I don't know what it means . His buddy agreed because of the mystery of experience riders having issues like that .
I am thinking to my self that is exactly how I broke my arm on Halloween when I was 13 . No big deal lots of people brake there arms .
So today was the limit . I got a water leak . Just started last night . Night Mare day because of it . I have no water tonight . No big deal I have been a builder for 40 years . I was just looking at it most of the day saying *** *** . It is the shut off valve . I need a *** curb key to turn off the water at the street . Anyway I should be going to storage to get the shop vac and start sucking up water . I procrastinate . Dink around thinking What is the matter with Me why am I not getting after this . I go to store and some woman says to someone else . Your moving kind of slow don't you think you should be getting after it . I am think your reading my mind Then the other person she is talking to looks at me and laughs, Ha Ha Ha as I walk by . As usual I am thinking no not again . This is strange . I finally go to my storage and as I turn in a biker passes and I let him go by . He waves and smiles and nods his head then he winks at Me and I am thinking What was the deal with that biker . He was just a little to strange. I get my shop vac put it in the truck and head on out . Now it is gated storage yet the gate was open going in and leaving . So that was out of the ordinary and caused Me to wonder what is going on . So shorty after I turn on to the street I see accident up the road . A biker . I think to my self My son just got off work he is riding his bike and this is right by his work . IT looks like like laying in the street . I cut across traffic and pull into the car wash jump out of the truck and sure enough it is him laying in the middle of the street , A mail Nurse was a witness and gave him first aid , There was a crowd gathered and one of his coworkers had stopped also to help . He hurt his shoulder and broke his arm and I was there about 2 minutes after it happened . Right there and my drummers story was front and center
Now they may not seem connected and it could be my disjointed dyslexic mind connecting them together. I don't think so I think it is long count communication and the drummer story was a precursor warning of and event field unfolding .
Not that it is God intervention but an entanglement of events by triggers that seem unconnected but are connected by this entanglement .
Oh Yeah when I was waiting just before the paramedics and ambulance showed . I could hear Mikel < Mikel Mikel . It was like squealing like fairies or like you would imagine fairies would sound . Then a high pitched laugh . I didn't imagine that . I have a trained ear . One that can distinguish different sounds orientation because of hear training . I understand phantom sound pretty good . Resonance . There was no identifiable source of that name squeal . It really sounded like it was coming from the people huddled around my son . They were milling around at that point . Could have been the siren on the ambulance and I was in a state of shook from seeing my son lay on the grown and my mind distorted the sound because of my bias . I don't know that is possible . It sounded like it was coming from the people like they were talking in a funny foreign tongue. That is what it sounded like and they were saying Mikel < Mikel Mikel he he he he Mikel he he he he he I swear on my profession as a carpenter that is what happened today . I had the premonition before I saw him laying on the ground. That is easy to explain as I know subliminally he would be getting off work and it could be him .
The drummer story is the wrench in the wheel and I think my knowledge of the member here who broke his arm is part of the same loop . His trigger was telling Me and who ever else was there about his broken arm .
I been messing with slow time . It is a different state of being . There is a language in this slow time . That rush of seeing my son on the ground . That is the same slow time I am talking about. Later I was filling the prescription and in slow time I could see the language traveling from person to person. It was strange but I been studying this for a while and it was stranger than normal . It was flowing back and forth but they were all strangers . They didn't know each other . They acted like they did and could swear they talking about the events of the day . In slow motion .
I need my new friend that knows I am dyslexic . The Nymph. It is not psychotic episodes . No No . I am calm and rational . He is fine . He may need surgery but probably not .
That woman who hit him was really shook up . Maybe this is the catcher . I put my hand on her last thing before heading to the hospital and said , It will be o>k. no worries . She had a tear in her eye and said tank you for saying that.
I don't know ? Cary day . Momma never told me there would be days like this .
In the mean Time I have no *** water. Is that a bunch of *** or what
Well if Light is a constant wave length Then wouldnt there be a way ( as with sound ) to use the opposite of the wave length to cancel it out or at least a way to nullify the light?
Almost like Waves in a pool, You can create a Ripple in point a, and then make a similar ripple in point b, and where they meet they cancel each other out?
Another example as partially stated above with sound. You play the Opposite amplitude of the sound to help cancel it out or at least make it not relevant to peoples hearing.
So there has to be some way to create an opposite wave length to light as you do with these other 2 examples.
Sorry as i am a new member it wouldnt let me post with the begining h t t p.
here is a example of what i mean
www.phy.si/2012/02/constructive-and-destructive.html
www.physicsclassroom.com/class/waves/u10l3c.cfm
If the waves continue the displacement will seem "Permanent
Almost like Waves in a pool, You can create a Ripple in point a, and then make a similar ripple in point b, and where they meet they cancel each other out?
Another example as partially stated above with sound. You play the Opposite amplitude of the sound to help cancel it out or at least make it not relevant to peoples hearing.
So there has to be some way to create an opposite wave length to light as you do with these other 2 examples.
Sorry as i am a new member it wouldnt let me post with the begining h t t p.
here is a example of what i mean
www.phy.si/2012/02/constructive-and-destructive.html
www.physicsclassroom.com/class/waves/u10l3c.cfm
If the waves continue the displacement will seem "Permanent
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