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StevenA
I just saw a new poster with the typical Alpha clone fingerprint - 4 posts, two positive ratings from cloned <Max> and TheDoc accounts, with the typical "m.o.".

I'll enjoy placing my bets on this being the latest incarnation.

The name is Bingo, stay tuned for the next upcoming wave of negative spams.

He should give AlphaNumeric and crew a positive and spam half the rest of the board with negatives, if he proves patient enough.
Beer w/Straw
Yes that is a good idea

we live into space-now
universe exist into spave-now
TheDoc
QUOTE (StevenA+)
I just saw a new poster with the typical Alpha clone fingerprint - 4 posts, two positive ratings from cloned <Max> and TheDoc accounts, with the typical "m.o.".


You know, Steven, you still haven't backed up your claim that I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha. What's the matter? What are you waiting for? Why can't you prove it?

If I'm so obviously a new Alpha sockpuppet, "exposing" me should be no problem.

So go on, Steven. Prove that I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha. Go on, I dare you. Prove it.

I dare you.

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I'll enjoy placing my bets on this being the latest incarnation.


Just as I will enjoy watching you lose all your money after you've lost the bet.

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I'll enjoy placing my bets on this being the latest incarnation.


Just as I will enjoy watching you lose all your money after you've lost the bet.

The name is Bingo, stay tuned for the next upcoming wave of negative spams.


Says the idiot who spams anyone he deems to be an "Alpha Clone", despite his predictions being wrong 90% of the time.

This might be an interesting read for you, Steven.
StevenA
QUOTE (TheDoc+)
You know, Steven, you still haven't backed up your claim that I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha. What's the matter? What are you waiting for? Why can't you prove it?


I implied it was statistical and likely there's only some 99.9% probability that Bingo is the next clone.

We can simply look at the fact that Bingo has posted these 4 sentences. One for each post:

QUOTE (Bingo+)
Quote #1:

I nominate TheDoc for truly being the most outstanding new member the FM have ever had in 2008 thus far.


QUOTE (Bingo+)
Quote #2:

Way-out false accusation of exceptional monster inaccuracy.


QUOTE (Bingo+)
Quote #3:

Good post inkaat, however this is a physics forum!


QUOTE (Bingo+)
Quote #4:

As much outrageous amusement as defending .9r is not equal to 1?


And for these 4 sentences, you've given yourself 2 positives from two of your accounts. (I rarely give preemptive negatives, but I decided to go ahead and spam you first on this new toon of yours)

Now we can go back and look at the relative spam ratio of negatives given by your clones to some of the best posters on the forum and find that you've exceeded even card counting probabilities and hit the jackpot on spammed representation on this forum with regard to feedback. (I could do some statistical analysis on the probability of some non-forum mafia unrelated poster with 4 sentences and find not a single feedback for, likely on average 30 posts or more).

You're entirely predictable, Alpha, Cecil, Princess BlueBalls, <Max>, TheDoc, Bingo and at least 8 or more other names I can't remember off hand.

Sure, apples don't always have to fall when dropped. There's little of anything saying that the laws of physics couldn't change at some unforseen future, but for now, I'm willing to bet that a bad one won't fall far from the tree.
TheDoc
QUOTE (StevenA+)
I implied it was statistical and likely there's only some 99.9% probability that Bingo is the next clone.


You're dodging. Are you going to prove that I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha, or not?

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And for these 4 sentences, you've given yourself 2 positives from two of your accounts.


You're dodging again. You can't actually prove I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha, can you?

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And for these 4 sentences, you've given yourself 2 positives from two of your accounts.


You're dodging again. You can't actually prove I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha, can you?

(I rarely give preemptive negatives, but I decided to go ahead and spam you first on this new toon of yours)


Man oh man this made me laugh out loud.

Do you REALLY think you've conducted a "preemptive strike" against me, or Alpha, or Trout, or NOM, or whoever is next on your "Clone List"? Because you haven't. And the more that you think that you have, the more of an idiot you will appear to be.

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Now we can go back and look at the relative spam ratio of negatives given by your clones to some of the best posters on the forum


That's funny, because I haven't spammed AlphaNumeric or Euler with negatives. Neither has Trout, or Alpha, or NOM...

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Now we can go back and look at the relative spam ratio of negatives given by your clones to some of the best posters on the forum


That's funny, because I haven't spammed AlphaNumeric or Euler with negatives. Neither has Trout, or Alpha, or NOM...

You're entirely predictable, Alpha, Cecil, Princess BlueBalls, <Max>, TheDoc, Bingo and at least 8 or more other names I can't remember off hand.


And you're just as "predictable", Steven. You spout long posts filled with unfounded and ignorant claims, you post a couple of random stats, and then act like you've exposed half of the forum as Alpha sockpuppets. But yet, after all your ranting about how Alpha has some 200 duplicate accounts lying in wait to "spam" your feedback, you haven't proved anything. You never managed to prove that I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha. Same with Trout, same with Empress Palpatine. You haven't "exposed" them as clones of Alpha. Not once.

So I'm giving you one last shot, Steven. Prove I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha.

Go on, prove it. I bet you won't. I bet you can't.
TheDoc
QUOTE (Derek1148+Apr 11 2008, 04:12 AM)
Derek1148
QUOTE (TheDoc+Apr 11 2008, 04:20 AM)
TheDoc
QUOTE (Derek1148+Apr 11 2008, 04:22 AM)
StevenA
QUOTE (TheDoc+Apr 11 2008, 04:06 AM)
You're dodging again. You can't actually prove I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha, can you?


No, there's a slight possibility that the future is something other than expected, but I don't happen to have access to I.P. addresses and such to give more tangible evidence other than the posts and comments on the forum, so it's simply something that (in the limit biggrin.gif) approaches absolute certainty.

(BTW, I didn't even know that the 4 posts were one liners when I posted this, but sure enough it turned out true that it was just your usual spam posts. I've already seen this enough times in the past to know the pattern ... use a different alias and show me to be mistaken! laugh.gif)
Bingo
Dearest darling Bozo,

I'll wager you $10,000 (USD) that I'm not Alpha nor TheDoc.

Feeling lucky?

smile.gif
Derek1148
QUOTE (TheDoc+Apr 11 2008, 04:36 AM)
StevenA
QUOTE (Bingo+Apr 11 2008, 05:47 AM)
Dearest darling Bozo,

I'll wager you $10,000 (USD) that I'm not Alpha nor TheDoc.

Feeling lucky?

smile.gif

Let me guess, I have to write up a paper and submit it to your *cough* friends ... I mean impartial judges to verify?

So hypothesizing something and then testing the hypothesis for statistical significance is not enough? wink.gif
StevenA
I found a good one here:

Multiple Personality Disorder
http://skepdic.com/mpd.html
paul h
>Multiple Personality Disorder

Multiple Personality Disorder^4
The sock puppets here have sock puppets.
I think that of course their are some here who only have a sock puppet (or two) but in some cases I think that the sock puppets have taken on such a life of their own that they have spawned puppets and in turn their puppet has multiplied. See what happens when you have un-protected sox. tongue.gif tongue.gif
TheDoc
QUOTE (StevenA+)
No, there's a slight possibility that the future is something other than expected, but I don't happen to have access to I.P. addresses and such to give more tangible evidence other than the posts and comments on the forum, so it's simply something that (in the limit biggrin.gif) approaches absolute certainty.


So in other words, you don't have any proof for your accusations other than your "gut feelings" and a couple of random stats. Yeah, that's what I thought.

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I've already seen this enough times in the past to know the pattern ... use a different alias and show me to be mistaken! laugh.gif


Prove that I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha. You've been given three chances already, and you still haven't backed up any of your accusations.

So go on, Steven. Prove it, and show me to be mistaken. You're up to the task, aren't you?
Bingo
QUOTE (StevenA+Apr 11 2008, 06:54 AM)
Let me guess, I have to write up a paper and submit it to your *cough* friends ... I mean impartial judges to verify?

So hypothesizing something and then testing the hypothesis for statistical significance is not enough? wink.gif

blink.gif ??? No!, if you're going either to humbly apologize for your paraniod/psychotic words or furnish my pockets with lovely cash - we've simply to determine the truth!

If I contact TheDoc & Alpha and promise them a 3 way split I'm sure they'd supply you with (along with myself) conclusive evidence of our uniqueness.

The ball's in your court.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

- Idiot!
Sapo
QUOTE (StevenA+Apr 10 2008, 11:57 PM)

No, there's a slight possibility that the future is something other than expected, but I don't happen to have access to I.P. addresses and such to give more tangible evidence other than the posts and comments on the forum, so it's simply something that (in the limit biggrin.gif) approaches absolute certainty.

(BTW, I didn't even know that the 4 posts were one liners when I posted this, but sure enough it turned out true that it was just your usual spam posts. I've already seen this enough times in the past to know the pattern ... use a different alias and show me to be mistaken! laugh.gif)

As administrator of my Joint, I have IP addresses for TheDoc and Alpha. I can prove they are not the same person, but ethics prevent me from giving you the data.

If this helps quell your anxiety, all good. If not, STFU and forget about it, please. It is boring. mad.gif
BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (Sapo+Apr 11 2008, 01:58 PM)
As administrator of my Joint, I have IP addresses for TheDoc and Alpha. I can prove they are not the same person, but ethics prevent me from giving you the data.

If this helps quell your anxiety, all good. If not, STFU and forget about it, please. It is boring. mad.gif

Don't forget me.
StevenA thinks I am (or that I have) a sockpuppet, likely of Alpha, since that's the only person StevenA has directly and explicitly accused of being the sole person behind the FM's various "sockpuppets."
StevenA
QUOTE (TheDoc+Apr 11 2008, 05:37 PM)

Prove that I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha. You've been given three chances already, and you still haven't backed up any of your accusations.

So go on, Steven. Prove it, and show me to be mistaken. You're up to the task, aren't you?


Prove me to be incorrect. You have nothing but accusations and evidence against your claim.

You obviously already knew the account was the new clone with almost no evidence from within the context of the posts that it was the new clone (except the possibility that you also had that 'gut feeling' that Bingo was in fact the new incarnation, but you'd have to be perusing the board quite vigorously and watching all comments from new members closely if you were able to do this within at least the first 3 sentences (your positive feedback to your Bingo account was within the first 3 posts as you'd already given a positive by the time I saw it on the fourth post).

So is it possible that you simply have lightning fast reflexes with regard to spotting the new clone or is it almost certainly the alternate, that you already knew Bingo was the new clone because you were personally involved?

I'm simply using the scientific method of observation and prediction laugh.gif and watching the apple continue to predictably fall ... sure, .999... could never precisely equal 1 and maybe someday apples won't fall, but for purposes of being a proven theory it's at least as predictive in its abilities as the Big Bang theory. (I can't even prove the Earth approximately spherical, other than just to show someone lots of evidence in support of it and hope they see the obvious also)
rpenner
QUOTE (Bingo+Apr 11 2008, 05:47 AM)
I'll wager you $10,000 (USD)

Finally! Someone who understands that "dollar" has many meanings in a international forum. Good job!
TheDoc
QUOTE (StevenA+)
Prove me to be incorrect.


Stop dodging and prove that I'm a sockpuppet of Alpha. Prove yourself to be correct.

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You have nothing but accusations and evidence against your claim.


And yet, amazingly enough, so do you! Golly gosh gee whiz rolleyes.gif

You haven't proved even one of your accusations right. Not even one.

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You have nothing but accusations and evidence against your claim.


And yet, amazingly enough, so do you! Golly gosh gee whiz rolleyes.gif

You haven't proved even one of your accusations right. Not even one.

You obviously already knew the account was the new clone with almost no evidence from within the context of the posts that it was the new clone


Oh? Do enlighten me, o informed one.

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(your positive feedback to your Bingo account was within the first 3 posts as you'd already given a positive by the time I saw it on the fourth post).


I gave Bingo a positive for this.

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QUOTE
(your positive feedback to your Bingo account was within the first 3 posts as you'd already given a positive by the time I saw it on the fourth post).


I gave Bingo a positive for this.

So is it possible that you simply have lightning fast reflexes with regard to spotting the new clone or is it almost certainly the alternate, that you already knew Bingo was the new clone because you were personally involved?


You continue to say "It's almost certain, it's almost certain!!" but you haven't proved anything. You are the one working off of "gut feelings", not me. You accused at least 5 other people of being "Alpha clones" but you haven't proved even one of your assertions correct. You keep spouting random facts and statistics but you can't actually come up with any proof. You make long rants about your feedback but you never bother to think that maybe there are more than three people who dislike you.

The ball is still in your court.

QUOTE (Sapo+)
As administrator of my Joint, I have IP addresses for TheDoc and Alpha. I can prove they are not the same person, but ethics prevent me from giving you the data.


You have my permission to show him the IPs in the future, if you change your mind.
BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (StevenA+Apr 11 2008, 03:26 PM)
Prove me to be incorrect.  You have nothing but accusations and evidence against your claim.

Are you SURE that's the way you want to argue this?
QUOTE (Sapo+)
As administrator of my Joint, I have IP addresses for TheDoc and Alpha. I can prove they are not the same person, but ethics prevent me from giving you the data.

Cause I'm pretty sure Sapo's not gonna lie about it, especially when he could be proven wrong...
(I know you would, but Sapo's not like you. He has these things called principles.)
Trippy
QUOTE (StevenA+Apr 12 2008, 08:26 AM)
Prove me to be incorrect. You have nothing but accusations and evidence against your claim.

You obviously already knew the account was the new clone with almost no evidence from within the context of the posts that it was the new clone (except the possibility that you also had that 'gut feeling' that Bingo was in fact the new incarnation, but you'd have to be perusing the board quite vigorously and watching all comments from new members closely if you were able to do this within at least the first 3 sentences (your positive feedback to your Bingo account was within the first 3 posts as you'd already given a positive by the time I saw it on the fourth post).

So is it possible that you simply have lightning fast reflexes with regard to spotting the new clone or is it almost certainly the alternate, that you already knew Bingo was the new clone because you were personally involved?

I'm simply using the scientific method of observation and prediction laugh.gif and watching the apple continue to predictably fall ... sure, .999... could never precisely equal 1 and maybe someday apples won't fall, but for purposes of being a proven theory it's at least as predictive in its abilities as the Big Bang theory. (I can't even prove the Earth approximately spherical, other than just to show someone lots of evidence in support of it and hope they see the obvious also)

You really are an idiot.

4 points of data is not enough to prove anything with 99% accuracy.

In fact, Bingo's total posts (11 at the time I made this post) aren't enough to prove anything with 99% accuracy.

It seems you know less about Statistics then you do any other branch of Maths.
Derek1148
The best way to solve this is ask.

Bingo,

Are you Alpha?
Bingo
QUOTE (Derek1148+Apr 13 2008, 11:52 PM)
The best way to solve this is ask.

Bingo,

Are you Alpha?

No.
Derek1148
QUOTE (Bingo+Apr 13 2008, 11:54 PM)
No.

Okay. Case closed.
Gorgeous
laugh.gif

Derek's on form today!




Bingo,

Are you Derek?





g.
Bingo
QUOTE (Gorgeous+Apr 14 2008, 12:01 AM)
laugh.gif

Derek's on form today!




Bingo,

Are you Derek?





g.

Give us a big sloppy kiss and I'll tell ya. biggrin.gif
Gorgeous
QUOTE (Bingo+Apr 14 2008, 12:41 AM)
Give us a big sloppy kiss and I'll tell ya. biggrin.gif

Aha! That means you ARE Derek, then! laugh.gif



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Confused2
Hi StevenA,

My suspicion is that Alpha is not any of the fivedoughnut clones. I must admit his later posts do have much in common with 5D's but I think this can be attributed to his/her desire to imitate features he admired about 5D rather than that he actually was one of the clones.

At present I'd say we are 'lucky' enough to have four (or more) active 5D clones .. Bingo, Moomin, Username and <Max>.

-C2.
Gorgeous
QUOTE (Confused2+Apr 14 2008, 01:13 AM)
Hi StevenA,

My suspicion is that Alpha is not any of the fivedoughnut clones. I must admit his later posts do have much in common with 5D's but I think this can be attributed to his/her desire to imitate features he admired about 5D rather than that he actually was one of the clones.

At present I'd say we are 'lucky' enough to have four (or more) active 5D clones .. Bingo, Moomin, Username and <Max>.

-C2.

Ok, thanks for that! biggrin.gif


g.
Confused2
QUOTE (deathlyhem+)
    ..... sweet-talk from the para-delusionoid-inept un-ashamedly extreme *uck'-*unt'.

Hypocrisy is rather an intensely understated issue considering your previously shambolic whince of an excuse for previous evidence of intelligence! 


.. and another!
StevenA
QUOTE (Confused2+Apr 14 2008, 01:13 AM)
Hi StevenA,

My suspicion is that Alpha is not any of the fivedoughnut clones. I must admit his later posts do have much in common with 5D's but I think this can be attributed to his/her desire to imitate features he admired about 5D rather than that he actually was one of the clones.

At present I'd  say we are 'lucky' enough to have four (or more) active 5D clones .. Bingo, Moomin, Username and <Max>.

-C2.


I guessed on the other ones, except Username. I must have missed one of the latest clones wink.gif. Thank you. I'll keep my eyes out for the upcoming Username round of spamming laugh.gif

(Oh I think Trout and prometheus should be in that list too)
Gorgeous
I am Spartacus! smile.gif



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bm1957
QUOTE (StevenA+Apr 17 2008, 01:47 AM)
I guessed on the other ones, except Username. I must have missed one of the latest clones wink.gif. Thank you. I'll keep my eyes out for the upcoming Username round of spamming laugh.gif

(Oh I think Trout and prometheus should be in that list too)

So what does that do to your 99% accuracy??? laugh.gif
N O M
QUOTE (bm1957+Apr 17 2008, 08:39 PM)
So what does that do to your 99% accuracy??? laugh.gif

I know just how inaccurate he is, but then facts have never been StevenA's strong point.

No doubt I'll get yet another set of accusations as to my supposed sock-puppets now.
Confused2
It takes a certain amount of time to distinguish between members who..

1/ Register
2/ Give negative feedback to StevenA (and/or myself)
3/ ROTFLTAO

Same person? Different person? Exciting isn't it? Interested? Me? Only when I'm really bored .. otherwise ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

9%, 99% .. such a fascinating subject isn't it? ZZZzzzzzzzzzzz. OK if you're a troll and you want to know how well the trolling is working you need accurate information .. I can see the point .. but .. ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

-C2.
Confused2
OK I'm bored.
Do a quick search for 'dispensor'
You get Moomin and Deathlyhem.

What are the chances of that happening? C'mon guys .. lets have some numbers..
6 billion people, 1 physics site ..

-C2.
Neil Farbsteln
QUOTE (Confused2+Apr 17 2008, 09:39 PM)
OK I'm bored.
Do a quick search for 'dispensor'
You get Moomin and Deathlyhem.

What are the chances of that happening? C'mon guys .. lets have some numbers..
6 billion people, 1 physics site ..

-C2.

Confused2,

You're an anti-semetic nazi, and my police officer neighbour will shoot you through the head when he cataches up with you!

p.s Thanks for giving Neil Farbstein a poz - 'read' astounding volumes of pathetic mental incompetence, bozoid fukkwit creepster.

smile.gif
Confused2
The spelling of 'fukkwit' links 'username','Rabbit' and 'Niel Farbsteln' .. what are the chances of THAT happening?

Just give a number (eg 1 in X) .. that's pretty reasonable. Without getting involved in the crap (this is a physics site after all) .. let's go for some numbers ..

-C2.

Confused2
The word 'nutsack' links more of them.

Let's share the joke .. does NOM have more than 30 'pozzies' from the same person?

-C2.
Gorgeous
QUOTE (Confused2+Apr 17 2008, 11:09 PM)
The word 'nutsack' links more of them.

Let's share the joke .. does NOM have more than 30 'pozzies' from the same person?

-C2.

Hey, leave NOM alone, he's a real scientist, he has a 'de plume-er' don't you know! biggrin.gif


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Grasshopper
This thread smacks of lame.
Deathlyhem
QUOTE (Confused2+Apr 17 2008, 10:27 PM)
The spelling of 'fukkwit' links 'username','Rabbit' and 'Niel Farbsteln' .. what are the chances of THAT happening?

Just give a number (eg 1 in X) .. that's pretty reasonable. Without getting involved in the crap (this is a physics site after all) .. let's go for some numbers ..

-C2.

Strange?? .... I conducted a similar search for "Confused2" - and found a whole bunch of component hallmarks for this oaf:

1.Idiot
2.Cretin
3.Pretender
4.Fake
5.*****
6.Fukker
7.Sputum
8.Muttonhead
9.Clown
10.Diarrhoea

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