Hello all,

I have an idea for a relatively simple way of producing thrust that can be totally contained within the object... no propellers, jet propulsion, or rocket thrust. I'm pretty sure you get the drift.. I've had this idea since I was 12, done research on the web and there isn't anything close to mine=). I've started building a prototype "1 days work", but it's been postponed because I'm in the military and out to sea.

An idea like this that would work has the potential to change the world!

My MAIN question is, if a small prototype is built that works what should be done?

My thoughts:
-working prototype
-patent
-get an investor
-hire a research team with the investors money, so all advancements would be under my name
-start a company

This could potentially be bigger than Bill Gates big

Any suggestions?

Hi Rush,
First off ; Thanks for serving. I'm always proud of a fellow American serving his country.
As for your idea, why wouldn't you want to patent the idea right now? All you really have to do is draw something up with some pretty basic components and calculations. It's hard to comment without specifics, but I understand why you would want to be discreet.
Can you talk to someone you trust that may be able to help you?
Also, if you're really stumped, you can always find one of those "Got an Idea" companies. You'd probably want to check them out, but they can be pretty good (my brother-in-law talked to one).
Good luck and God Bless.
Ron

rush,

I agree with Ron. You need to write this stuff down. Drawings, written, pictures any data you collect and descriptions of any procedures conducted the more detail the better. Do this in a notebook of sorts and sign and date it on EVERY page. Find someone you trust and who is competent enough to understand your idea and have them sign and witness each page as well. This creates what is known as what I believe is called "prior art" or something along those lines. I work for a chemical company and we have to do all this to apply and defend patents. The sooner you do this the stronger your case is against anyone who wants to steal your idea. Good Luck.

Regards,
Caleb

That is, of course, assuming that there is anything to your idea.

Thanks

I'm just going to finish building my prototype, I'm sure the rest will come..
Once I finish I might give an update on the results .

later

I hope it works.. It's not using any kind of fields or magnetism... maybe only in the motors .
If something that could create great thrust with no external air or propellent needed, what kinds of things can be made?
I thought of various things..
-Military craft
-Hover cars
-Elevators for building
-Mabye raise a thethered space station

Any other wacky Ideas?

when this gets big look for my stock "Rush Corp" or something along those lines...

By all means, protect yourself legally. If this thing is as you say, I will be hearing about it on MSNBC.

So far, I'm pretty skeptical, but I may have the wrong conception.

Does this motor require fuel? Electricity? What goes in? What goes out?

I am a great deal more than skeptical but will wait until there is something more to comment on.

Thanks for the encouragement .
Your right.. I juste hate being stuck out here...
I was thinking of some things I could use it on...
MSNBC
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You don't need a working prototype in order to file for a patent. It is rare, but they may ask to see one later. Of course they won't consider perpetual motion machines or devises claiming to violate the conservation of energy law.

You must be unsure that it will actually work.

You'll need money to have a patent attorney do a thorough patent search.

Then pay to have the proper drawings made. I am curious about what you are attempting, but if you tell us or publish details about it you could lose the right to patent.

Sorry to be such a pessimist, but if the big outfits see your prototype they will make an improvement on it (steal it ) like they did to the guy that came up with the weed wacker.

I am not an attorney, so feel free to ignore my advice.

It's a shame you can't build and sell these things yourself. Even then you would still need patent protection.

Good luck to you.

Something does not need to actually work to be patented. You just need the drawings and description, fill out the forms and that's it.

Thank SO much.
Is there any way to patent a certain type of idea? Like saying general terms?

Like if I was the first one to make a propeller I would say, "Blades radiating from a central point, these blades can be of various curvature, size, shape, material, or number. The main purpose of these blades is to use air to propell it's self and a payload."

You can't patent an idea.

You can copyright the written description of the idea.

I just viewed your feedback and read your theory of gravity waves in a topic started by jsaldea12.

I am no longer concerned about you applying for a patent.

I'm guessing that you think you can modify a microwave oven, so that it will become a starship with anti-gravity propulsion.

Haha concerned?
I like to theorize on all kinds of things that influence the world around me.
But no. inertia is the basis...
I just found www.freepatentsonline.com and I haven't found anything yet!!!

I am very interested in inertia and hope to start a new topic on it.

It will deal with ideas, new interpretations, not new inventions. Some of it will be against mainstream, so will be a bit cranky, but hopefully thought provoking.

Carry on!

Dude, I feel you on the new invention idea. I do stuff just like that. And I've figured out some stuff that really work. Ex. I figured out how to make a permanent, controlable, gravity field that is not extremely expensive. Big, huh? I've also left room in my formula to make it an anti-gravity plate if need may arise. And since I have figured out using extensive research that the the only I REPEAT, ONLY things that are permanent in the universe are the forces of nature and God, by capturing one of these forces of nature, gravity, I now have plans for perpetual motion that (I have also tested) work. It's good to know someone in the same neighborhood as me. I don't usualy see a lot of people around there.
And I really appreciate what you do for our country. Good luck on your invention and God bless.

Sincerely,
David