Here is a new web page with more advanced discussion than most web pages. Includes an idea for the scientific community that would help reduce the confusion on the Internet.
http://www.geocities.com/simulation911/
QUOTE (simulation911+Jan 9 2006, 10:28 AM)
Here is a new web page with more advanced discussion than most web pages. Includes an idea for the scientific community that would help reduce the confusion on the Internet.
http://www.geocities.com/simulation911/
Nonsense peddling.
The site states: """The hottest room fires are commonly measured at about 1200 °C."""
Which is total bunk.
Not even NIST tries to present such nonsense:
"""Of the more than 170 areas examined on 16 perimeter column panels, only three columns had evidence that the steel reached temperatures above 250ºC… Only two core column specimens had sufficient paint remaining to make such an analysis, and their temperatures did not reach 250 ºC. ... Using metallographic analysis, NIST determined that there was no evidence that any of the samples had reached temperatures above 600 ºC.""" (NIST, 2005, pp. 176-177;
http://www.geocities.com/simulation911/
Nonsense peddling.
The site states: """The hottest room fires are commonly measured at about 1200 °C."""
Which is total bunk.
Not even NIST tries to present such nonsense:
"""Of the more than 170 areas examined on 16 perimeter column panels, only three columns had evidence that the steel reached temperatures above 250ºC… Only two core column specimens had sufficient paint remaining to make such an analysis, and their temperatures did not reach 250 ºC. ... Using metallographic analysis, NIST determined that there was no evidence that any of the samples had reached temperatures above 600 ºC.""" (NIST, 2005, pp. 176-177;
That's interesting to know, but please don't accuse me of nonsense peddling. The whole point is that it's a very complicated issue.
And if you read more into what I wrote:
"Even if we know the maximum flame temperature of a fire, this does not tell us the temperature of a nearby steel piece..."
"Even if we know the maximum flame temperature of a fire, this does not tell us the temperature of a nearby steel piece..."
It's pathetic nonsense peddling and it won't fool anyone.
Galdur, please read the whole thing carefully. I'm not trying to "fool" anyone because I'm not even taking a position on the issue. I'm only bringing up important things to consider that have not already been discussed.
I improved the wording:
"The hottest room fires are measured at about 1200°C, although 900°C to 1,000°C is more common. "
http://www.doctorfire.com/flametmp.html
Of course this depends on a lot of factors. There are plenty of room fires that are cooler.
"The hottest room fires are measured at about 1200°C, although 900°C to 1,000°C is more common. "
http://www.doctorfire.com/flametmp.html
Of course this depends on a lot of factors. There are plenty of room fires that are cooler.
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