Millions....they are making millions..........
Anyway, anyone familiar with this? Can anyone tell me what scientist think of this notion? Scientific predictions?
Cuz, I'm looking for a reason to not have to go to freakin work ok.
Why can't I think to write a book on the Mayan Calander Doomsday?
Millions....they are making millions..........
Anyway, anyone familiar with this? Can anyone tell me what scientist think of this notion? Scientific predictions?
Cuz, I'm looking for a reason to not have to go to freakin work ok.
Millions....they are making millions..........
Anyway, anyone familiar with this? Can anyone tell me what scientist think of this notion? Scientific predictions?
Cuz, I'm looking for a reason to not have to go to freakin work ok.
Components of actions sets.
@ A difference engine, is a dynamic that tells of an interaction, sometimes of mass and gravities.
# What is the definition of a sidereal clock, as it relates to either uniform or nonuniform planetary procession?
$ If quanteric energy is associated with a timed phase, where energies placed on planetary sphere, resonates upwards, then what are these supposed values?
Saying, All the problems in the universe can be solved with the use of zeros, ones and twos.
@ A difference engine, is a dynamic that tells of an interaction, sometimes of mass and gravities.
# What is the definition of a sidereal clock, as it relates to either uniform or nonuniform planetary procession?
$ If quanteric energy is associated with a timed phase, where energies placed on planetary sphere, resonates upwards, then what are these supposed values?
Saying, All the problems in the universe can be solved with the use of zeros, ones and twos.
OK 
Is that the answer you're giving me?
Mumbo Jumbo.
All I want to know is this; If the planets aligned with the sun and then, with the very center of the universe--what effect to we here on earth observe? If any? If the earth's orbit enters the southern hemisphere of the Milky Way disk(assuming we are in the northern now), same question about effect---Anyone have a plain english answer?
But thanks anyway, Mr. "Look at me I am so intelligent"
Duh, everything in the universe is binary, bla bla bla, information is never lost..........bla bla bla..............bits............ 0,1,2...................
Is that the answer you're giving me? Mumbo Jumbo.
All I want to know is this; If the planets aligned with the sun and then, with the very center of the universe--what effect to we here on earth observe? If any? If the earth's orbit enters the southern hemisphere of the Milky Way disk(assuming we are in the northern now), same question about effect---Anyone have a plain english answer?
But thanks anyway, Mr. "Look at me I am so intelligent"
Duh, everything in the universe is binary, bla bla bla, information is never lost..........bla bla bla..............bits............ 0,1,2...................
Nothing will happen. The 'galactic alignment' is nothing more than an arbitrary choice by us. Besides, the planets and Sun will hardly move between now and then, if someone showed you a 'map' of the galaxy, you'd be unable to tell the difference between it now and in 6 years. Even if the Sun and Earth did line up with the centre of the galaxy, so what? Nothing happens. There's no scientific reason to think anything will happen. Planets and stars are aligning all the time and nothing happens.
The Mayan calender doesn't 'finish', it ticks over to the next digit just as in 999 we ticked over to 1000. Just as in 999 and 1999 though, plenty of people think there's some special significance to our arbitrary date system. There isn't.
The Mayan calender doesn't 'finish', it ticks over to the next digit just as in 999 we ticked over to 1000. Just as in 999 and 1999 though, plenty of people think there's some special significance to our arbitrary date system. There isn't.
Whew! 
Thanks, I feel better.
Thanks, I feel better.
http://skepdic.com/maya.html
The Mayan calendar is just more New Age junk pseudoscience that some shyster has peddled to the gullible.
Physfan
The Mayan calendar is just more New Age junk pseudoscience that some shyster has peddled to the gullible.
Physfan
Physfan. I agree. There are all these stories of ancient wisdom but when you investigate them closely, they are all phoney.
Actually there is a great academic work, not pseudo science bull, that gives light to this subject. Maya Cosmo genesis: 2012 by Carl Jenkins, I believe. Any claim that this was specifically deemed by the Mayans as a n "apocalyptic" date I believe is unfounded. But there is evidence to suggest they viewed this date as important to the cycles of both our solar system and galaxy as a whole. Their understanding of the cosmos was vast and quite sophisticated ( they new there was a black hole at the center of our galaxy, a fact modern science hadn't known until recently). To my understanding of the fore mentioned book, the reason for them stopping at this specific date was that they sensed the possibility of a colossal change happening either in the reality of the universe as a whole or simply a paradigm shift in human thinking or way of living. Who knows? Still a really interesting subject, Mayan cosmology.
yourwelcomesir. I would have been more impressed had the Mayans predicted the demise of their own race.
QUOTE (AlphaNumeric+Mar 14 2007, 12:12 AM)
The Mayan calender doesn't 'finish', it ticks over to the next digit just as in 999 we ticked over to 1000. Just as in 999 and 1999 though, plenty of people think there's some special significance to our arbitrary date system. There isn't.
There was mass histeria in Europe when the year 1000 was approaching as there were many predictions of the end of the world.
There were even a few about the last millenium. Though I did have a bit of a headache the next day, I'm fairly certain the world didn't end.
There was mass histeria in Europe when the year 1000 was approaching as there were many predictions of the end of the world.
There were even a few about the last millenium. Though I did have a bit of a headache the next day, I'm fairly certain the world didn't end.
QUOTE (OldWoman1904+Mar 12 2007, 04:27 PM)
OK Is that the answer you're giving me?
Mumbo Jumbo.
Don't expect anything else other than gibberish from philip345. Half the time is a raving looney who can't keep a coherent thought together, the other half he tells lies.
BTW, the Shadowrun series of novels and roleplaying game use the premise that at the flip of the Mayan calendar in 2012, magic awakened in the world. They are interesting stories.
Is that the answer you're giving me? Mumbo Jumbo.
Don't expect anything else other than gibberish from philip345. Half the time is a raving looney who can't keep a coherent thought together, the other half he tells lies.
BTW, the Shadowrun series of novels and roleplaying game use the premise that at the flip of the Mayan calendar in 2012, magic awakened in the world. They are interesting stories.
Can you quote a Mayan writing that claims to know that there is a black hole in the center of the Milky Way?
If that is true, that they held this theory, what led them to this conclusion.
I know cosmologists agree that something "cosmological" happens on this day 12.21.12---some alignment of some sort. I've heard that our solar system leaves the northern hemisphere of the Milky Way and enters to southern hemisphere.
Is that mumbo jumbo or what?
Are we in one hemisphere of the Milky Way all of the time? I know it's very thin, but it must have a horizontal division?
But Kendya--Kenra--Kenda--Sorry I forgot your name---but you mentioned that you would have respected the opinion of the Mayan if they could have predicted the demise of their own existence. That's funny. Touche'
If that is true, that they held this theory, what led them to this conclusion.
I know cosmologists agree that something "cosmological" happens on this day 12.21.12---some alignment of some sort. I've heard that our solar system leaves the northern hemisphere of the Milky Way and enters to southern hemisphere.
Is that mumbo jumbo or what?
Are we in one hemisphere of the Milky Way all of the time? I know it's very thin, but it must have a horizontal division?
But Kendya--Kenra--Kenda--Sorry I forgot your name---but you mentioned that you would have respected the opinion of the Mayan if they could have predicted the demise of their own existence. That's funny. Touche'
QUOTE (OldWoman1904+Mar 16 2007, 03:20 PM)
But Kendya--Kenra--Kenda--Sorry I forgot your name---but you mentioned that you would have respected the opinion of the Mayan if they could have predicted the demise of their own existence. That's funny. Touche'
That's OK. For 103 years old you do pretty well.
That's OK. For 103 years old you do pretty well.
Kaneda
For a 60% warning rate, you aint so bad yourself.
yet
For a 60% warning rate, you aint so bad yourself.
yet
Oh boy, here we go again! The relevant thing for me in 2012 is to return to a forum such as this and say 'told ya so! 
(hopefully with a much more cool computer by then)
These doomsdayers are probably the same folks saying the cubs will win the series this year! Hey, I wish it were true but it ain't gonna happen!
Now if they do, just maybe I'll re-evaluate my 2012 stance!
(hopefully with a much more cool computer by then)These doomsdayers are probably the same folks saying the cubs will win the series this year! Hey, I wish it were true but it ain't gonna happen!
Now if they do, just maybe I'll re-evaluate my 2012 stance!
The earth is going to be in alignment
with some planets and will cross into the horizontal plane of the Milky Way.99.7of all mass not in the center of the galaxy is Either above or below center line horizontal. And 99 % of those masses are in the horizontal fins nearest to the center mass of super red giants and nebular gases. The chances of some thing unexpected happening are 1:24 Quadrillion. That is according to known physics. Me, I think something great will happen to the human kind. I think we will have an awakening that not all will people will be ready to handle. Be prepared mentally, physically, and spiritually. Something could happen, and my proof is that the universe has no end. Where does everything go. Who can create something from nothing. The Beginning has a beginning but what was before that. The universe has no end but what is beyond that. Think about for about 5 seconds then go living cause there is no answer we can handle. FORGET ABOUT IT. Live your life to the fullest it could only last 10 more minutes. Dont quell over minuscule ***. Do what you want as long as it doesn't hurt some one else. No I'm not religious. I'm down to earth. *** it lets smoke a bowl and laugh.
with some planets and will cross into the horizontal plane of the Milky Way.99.7of all mass not in the center of the galaxy is Either above or below center line horizontal. And 99 % of those masses are in the horizontal fins nearest to the center mass of super red giants and nebular gases. The chances of some thing unexpected happening are 1:24 Quadrillion. That is according to known physics. Me, I think something great will happen to the human kind. I think we will have an awakening that not all will people will be ready to handle. Be prepared mentally, physically, and spiritually. Something could happen, and my proof is that the universe has no end. Where does everything go. Who can create something from nothing. The Beginning has a beginning but what was before that. The universe has no end but what is beyond that. Think about for about 5 seconds then go living cause there is no answer we can handle. FORGET ABOUT IT. Live your life to the fullest it could only last 10 more minutes. Dont quell over minuscule ***. Do what you want as long as it doesn't hurt some one else. No I'm not religious. I'm down to earth. *** it lets smoke a bowl and laugh.
Something is going to happen. But since we cannot have the knowledge of the future, we will just wait and see. I agree, continue your life, but be aware of something special about to happen. Think of the changes thus far, ?-thousand years ago we began to write and record history, ?-hundred years ago technology, fifty years ago the computer, 35 years ago the moon landing..... What could be next?
Might we develop into a new higher consciousness or might the magnetic fields from the Sun become inverted by the overwhelming forces from one of the largest black holes in our galactic area?
Might we develop into a new higher consciousness or might the magnetic fields from the Sun become inverted by the overwhelming forces from one of the largest black holes in our galactic area?
There was a thread on this subject about two years ago here which introduced me to the subject. I was fascinated by it and did much research. First off, what I found is that it doesn't predict the end of the world, just the end of the calendar cycle. I think Alpha Numeric said that too. Armageddonists have just jumped on the band wagon with it. (was that a word?)
But I DO wonder, is there possibly a dense band of gas or dust at the plane that we are going through that could cause/contribute to global warming/cooling?
Also would there be any gravitational pull from any galactic alignment? Now I know all 5 inner planets have been in alignment and NOTHING happened like predicted, but there was a measurable difference. I don't expect it would do anything AT ALL to humans, but it could possibly warm the interior of the earth just slightly? Just enough to give her a belly ache that could increase volcanoes or earthquakes for a period? Which of course, we would be in that cycle right now.
Also ALSO ( ) how do we know on that exact day we will be in the center of the galaxy? How do we not know that we are in the center of the galaxy..... right.... NOW? Or maybe.......... righhhhhhhhhhhhhtt NOW?
Maybe NOW?
I am too pragmatic to believe anything will happen on that day. But I will probably stay home from work since its my birthday! Ok small lie, my bday is 2 days before. But I still love the subject of the Mayan, so I will celebrate my birthday through the end of the calendar!
But I DO wonder, is there possibly a dense band of gas or dust at the plane that we are going through that could cause/contribute to global warming/cooling?
Also would there be any gravitational pull from any galactic alignment? Now I know all 5 inner planets have been in alignment and NOTHING happened like predicted, but there was a measurable difference. I don't expect it would do anything AT ALL to humans, but it could possibly warm the interior of the earth just slightly? Just enough to give her a belly ache that could increase volcanoes or earthquakes for a period? Which of course, we would be in that cycle right now.
Also ALSO (
) how do we know on that exact day we will be in the center of the galaxy? How do we not know that we are in the center of the galaxy..... right.... NOW? Or maybe.......... righhhhhhhhhhhhhtt NOW? Maybe NOW?
I am too pragmatic to believe anything will happen on that day. But I will probably stay home from work since its my birthday! Ok small lie, my bday is 2 days before. But I still love the subject of the Mayan, so I will celebrate my birthday through the end of the calendar!
i say, WHO CARES!
mathematical proof:
death = hit by a speeding bus
speeding bus = 6000lbs. X 50MPH
death = 6000lbs. X 50mph
what we can derive from these proofs, is that if you start selling "i survived 2012" t-shirts, now, you can enjoy the next five or fifty years in financial comfort.
mathematical proof:
death = hit by a speeding bus
speeding bus = 6000lbs. X 50MPH
death = 6000lbs. X 50mph
what we can derive from these proofs, is that if you start selling "i survived 2012" t-shirts, now, you can enjoy the next five or fifty years in financial comfort.
I'm fairly sure this date is my favorite topic, whether I want it to be or not.
I heard about it a couple years back, and I have been searching for unbiased answers and facts ever since. It's hard to resist traveling to Guatemala and the Yucatan Peninsula to have a glimpse at the source of all this... or, it would be, if I wasn't a poor college student.
There are a few things worth looking at. As far as "the winter solstice sun aligning with the center of the galaxy" is concerned, this DOES happen... but it was actually more perfectly aligned in 1998. BUT, it certainly wasn't anywhere near alignment thousands of years ago. The "precession" of the earth's wobble on it's axis makes this event occur, I believe, once every 26,000 years or so. Archaeological evidence suggests that some of their art points towards this alignment (See Diagram 3)
http://edj.net/mc2012/fap2.html
Even our galactic origins are now in question -
http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1207&i=2
Since we obviously have a few things to straighten out when it comes to galactic issues, I've decided to keep my (hopefully) scientific observations to our solar system and planet.
It's extremely under-publicized and not very well acknowledged by the scientific community, but solar-terrestrial interactions are extremely important, and not only those of the sun and earth. Jupiter, specifically, because of its high mass and magnetic influence, is undoubtedly coupled in some kind of interface and exchange with the sun.
http://www.jupitersdance.com
http://www.grandunification.com/hypertext/...redictions.html
I'm not certain on the factuality of the Jupiter's dance site, and the sunspot max prediction date of 2004 from the grand unification site was very wrong.
But on the days approaching 12/21/2012 (the year of the predicted solar max, mind you), the earth passes Jupiter in its orbit around the sun. Our magnetic field is notably weak, and at the solar maximum, the sun's magnetic field does a flip-flop (every 11 years), and has a tendency to try to drag the earth's with it, through Interplanetary Magnetic Field / solar wind / magnetosphere / ionosphere interaction.
I know I've ranted about this before, but we need some kind of all-inclusive dynamic model of every known significant gravitational and magnetic influence in our solar system, maybe down to comets, and even notable asteroids.
Does anyone else feel this all bears watching, if not just for the pure sake of knowledge??
I heard about it a couple years back, and I have been searching for unbiased answers and facts ever since. It's hard to resist traveling to Guatemala and the Yucatan Peninsula to have a glimpse at the source of all this... or, it would be, if I wasn't a poor college student.
There are a few things worth looking at. As far as "the winter solstice sun aligning with the center of the galaxy" is concerned, this DOES happen... but it was actually more perfectly aligned in 1998. BUT, it certainly wasn't anywhere near alignment thousands of years ago. The "precession" of the earth's wobble on it's axis makes this event occur, I believe, once every 26,000 years or so. Archaeological evidence suggests that some of their art points towards this alignment (See Diagram 3)
http://edj.net/mc2012/fap2.html
Even our galactic origins are now in question -
http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1207&i=2
Since we obviously have a few things to straighten out when it comes to galactic issues, I've decided to keep my (hopefully) scientific observations to our solar system and planet.
It's extremely under-publicized and not very well acknowledged by the scientific community, but solar-terrestrial interactions are extremely important, and not only those of the sun and earth. Jupiter, specifically, because of its high mass and magnetic influence, is undoubtedly coupled in some kind of interface and exchange with the sun.
http://www.jupitersdance.com
http://www.grandunification.com/hypertext/...redictions.html
I'm not certain on the factuality of the Jupiter's dance site, and the sunspot max prediction date of 2004 from the grand unification site was very wrong.
But on the days approaching 12/21/2012 (the year of the predicted solar max, mind you), the earth passes Jupiter in its orbit around the sun. Our magnetic field is notably weak, and at the solar maximum, the sun's magnetic field does a flip-flop (every 11 years), and has a tendency to try to drag the earth's with it, through Interplanetary Magnetic Field / solar wind / magnetosphere / ionosphere interaction.
I know I've ranted about this before, but we need some kind of all-inclusive dynamic model of every known significant gravitational and magnetic influence in our solar system, maybe down to comets, and even notable asteroids.
Does anyone else feel this all bears watching, if not just for the pure sake of knowledge??
Yet another anomalistic characteristic to heap on the pile
U of Vriginia.edu
any questions?
There is so much we don't understand about this universe that makes it impossible to deal in absolutes.
We may think we know, but do we really know, can we locigally prove it?
Mathematics offers probabilities nothing more.
U of Vriginia.edu
any questions?
There is so much we don't understand about this universe that makes it impossible to deal in absolutes.
We may think we know, but do we really know, can we locigally prove it?
Mathematics offers probabilities nothing more.
QUOTE (sirfiroth+Jun 27 2007, 11:00 AM)
We may think we know, but do we really know, can we locigally prove it?
Mathematics offers probabilities nothing more.
Mathematics state the probabilities of my not being among the living tomorrow are very VERY slim, but the probability IS still there....... I still say the chances of something happening on 12/21/12 are slim to none. But the chance that something catastrophic could happen in the next few decades is always there.
I'm not placing my money on ANY day.
But that WAS a very interesting article. I knew our galaxy had gone out to eat at an "all you can eat buffet", but I didn't know the restaurant was in my part of the town.
Curious as to what effects could possibly be felt from this......
Mathematics offers probabilities nothing more.
Mathematics state the probabilities of my not being among the living tomorrow are very VERY slim, but the probability IS still there....... I still say the chances of something happening on 12/21/12 are slim to none. But the chance that something catastrophic could happen in the next few decades is always there.
I'm not placing my money on ANY day.
But that WAS a very interesting article. I knew our galaxy had gone out to eat at an "all you can eat buffet", but I didn't know the restaurant was in my part of the town.
Curious as to what effects could possibly be felt from this......
I posted this article in a forum thread under the Earth Sciences section, but I think many people could benefit from reading it. All the sources I've checked to verify have reinforced all of the points made.
http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/global/planetophysical.html
I know it's a long read, but I found it worth the time
http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/global/planetophysical.html
I know it's a long read, but I found it worth the time
"It" could, or could not actually take place on 12-23 also, technically, there is a 3 day window so don't hold your breath.
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Pretty interesting article. In particular for me,
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Pretty interesting article. In particular for me,
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"The shape of the Sagittarius debris trail shows us that the Milky Way's unseen dark matter is in a spherical distribution, a result that is quite unexpected," Weinberg said.
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