Hi Blondie,
blondie Posted on Jul 4 2005, 04:48 AM
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Hey guys, this is very interesting but I have no background on what you are talking about, do you mind filling me in ? wink.gif Please?
He he he... You and me both! I guess something will need to be said here about all this It involves a number of threads on this site between Yquantum, myself and other interested people here... . It is either a Theory of Everything or a Theory of Nothing... it is left up to you personally to choose. It goes into my "The Chronicle...News from the Edge file".
The Chronicle... All I can say is that it is not a hoax on my behalf but with the internet I can't vouch for any other parties. Over a long life that "symbolic file" has become quite thick with these sagas and this is just another one of them. What I can say is this that neither yquantum nor "Europe" have any connection to me neither personally or regionally and I am sure that the server cache for this site would back this detail up. I personally authorize this information for release if there is such a thing to show at least I am telling the truth. I can still say that I still think of yquantum as a good friend... not sure about "Europe" though he he he! After I say this my name will be "mud".
My specialty is usually Special and General Relativity and I hail from an earlier episode in Sciences and Technologies. Nowadays I am a practical "elf" engaged in the management and preservation of forests in a State in Australia using Global Information Systems. I have had more professions than most people have had hot breakfasts. I have a Geophysics Major among a couple of other Degrees and Diplomas, I am no "undergrad". Not a good long term career move. The other major character for me is yquantum. He purports to be a "significant" player in the area of String Theory. Well resourced and working at the head of a team in and between large accelerator Facilities that include CERN. Though he seemed very "insular" he is very likable and you begin to accept that he is under a lot of security constraints imposed on him from the "Company" he is working for. He is at heart just a scientist (bit more privileged than most) with "Big Brother" breathing over his shoulder. I understand that was his choice.
When I first met him here and in personal e-mails from the forum, he seemed dejected about the lack of progress being made in his area of String Theory despite what seemed huge mathematical progress, nothing of the Theory appeared to exist in the physical world and it still had a number of serious drawbacks. One of the most serious was the inability to do as much as a single calculation on the Theory to provide a couple of real world observables to get a handle on the heart of the matter. Our most powerful machines are presently "mute" to the complexity of this stuff and the only way through would be with some basic understanding at a human level. We all "know" and are taught it is "impossible" to understand the quantum... I just did not believe it. The only known results of this Theory of any consequence was M-Theory of Ed Witten and the discovery of a couple of very important symmetries. Most importantly T-Duality. To that point in time I had sworn publicly that if String Theory was to amount to anything at all in my lifetime I would eat my beanie (I am an elf you see!)
It seemed a kind of challenge at first... that was the proposed test of string theory you will find in that thread entitled...
Proposed String Theory Test, A new experiment might test stringsWell after the opener where the proposal was made that this may be able to give insight and be able to test the theory at depth I realized that this theory was probably going nowhere... I would give it one chance in 20 of success. The string couplings in present day string theory would not allow this "model" to work. I then sent back what I thought was a pretty convincing argument to debunk this as a "true test". My beanie felt rather save for now.
Then a wildcard was thrown into the equation with yquantum posting an apparently unpublished and unreferenced article by Leonard Susskind which seemed to re-ignite this debate (very famous and astute guy in Strings). He had apparently received "permission" to post it here. It said a lot of things that made sense. There was a great deal of "clear thinking" in that paper and it opened my eyes to the idea that The Theory of Strings may not be what it is all about at all and that we may be speaking of a Supersymmetry on Braneworlds.
I was inspired to view the extra six dimensions which had periodic boundary conditions in Time and Space as the equivalent of a Complex 3-space "Twistor". This was the basis of of the T-Dual "Universe" and electric , magnetic "charges" and even mass itself would be pseudo-properties of the highly compactified "hypersurface" of the Calabi-Yau Space of particles (both Fermionic and Bosonic). This complex 3-space neatly balance our "flat" and non-spinning braneworld in a supersymmetric sense. They are "identical" and represent the same "objects" but it requires a very special treansformation to move from one realm to the other from some "outside" frame they are "completely massless and represent "inside out" representations of each other. There is also a way to identify where all the supersymmetric partners are as well that has not been possible using the standard theory. To get measurements... well thats another question altogether.
It then became clear that our Universe is a "layered" structure in which forces are confined to Universes with shells that correspond to the supersymmetric partner of some fermion... but they are everywhere. These shells are commonly related to the external electronic structure of atoms but not confined to them. Other branes involved were those of photons and that our Universe also has this "shell" and is an "uber-space" that touches the hypersurface of the "hollow" part of our spinning "bosonic" Universe. The three complex "periodic" entities are the equivalent of quarks in sub-atomic particles, ultimately as inseparable as the dimensions they are made from. The rest of this overall empty Universe are "particles" .... just like the ones that make us up and we think are so important to what we believe is the Universe.
The "Vault of the Heavens" out to the most distant extremity of that large Universe above is the "remapped inside" of a tiny particle inside an atom as seen from the outside. This invokes some of those ideas of a Holographic Universe espoused by David Bohm. Unfortunately he was regarded as a flawed genius and little or no attention was paid to his ideas.
The other thing that "fell" out of this purely geometric "theory of everything" is that the structure does not invoke "particles" and only deals with a "single layer of the Universe". The other layers are isolated from the layer we "live " on and can be considered as just "more of the same". The quantum foamy limit at the Planck's Length is gone and the path of quantum particles, though still obeying Quantum Mechanics, became "deterministic" and began to look like the laws of ordinary dynamics following paths in a higher dimensional Lagrangian.
The emission and absorption of photons is a foregone phenomena mapped out "in a space" above our regular Universe of a simple impulse on the outside of this space and its resolution inside this space is the extension of the photon in time and in space , only more of them... now 6 dimensions. The simplification was the space was like ours and connected to the same manifold of 3D + T spacetime yet spinning in six dimensions. This spin of the Calabi-Yau Manifold causes the limb to undergo Special Theory Relativistic Contraction in the direction of spin (all six dimensions). This happens "dynamically" until it can shrink no more and is the atomic particle we "see". Obviously we can't see six dimensions but there are some rare instances of such objects entering our "Bulk" of 3D + T temporarily as "Ball Lightning". These objects exhibit unusual stability with all that energy "boxed" in by the compactified 6-dimensions and the apparent baffling behavior to be able to sometimes move through the interior metal walls of an aircraft. This is attributed to the ability of that object being free to move in those six dimensions and in that realm "the metal box" of the aircraft is not "closed".
Another physical phenomena that exhibits these uber-dimensional phenomena was one I had come in contact with earlier that year. This was the Aharanov-Bohm Effect. This has been proven beyond doubt experimentally and with a almost universal acclaim. However it was immediately "dropped" by the regular Scientific Community as "off the wall" and inexplicable and threatened some of the most cherished ideas of Quantum Mechanics. It is an topological effect that influences particles during quantum "transmission" by utilizing a "global" effect in our Universe. I was able to show how this may be used to transmit particles instantly over vast distances or utilize a supraliminal form of communication. At the time I was not aware of the extra implications of String Theory and suddenly with this new knowledge it all fell into place. It all was a self consistent process.
All of this did not mean much to yquantum since his ideas of String Theory were placed far below the quantum Planck Length in some dimensional "no mans land". This is despite what Ed Witten had said regarding which manifold they were on the implications were unheeded. Now I was able to see that even radio transmitters used crude "bosonic" shells and these were the T-Dual of the antenna that created them. The photons "launched" by those bits of hardware made them travel in that 6 dimensional spinspace and this was out of sight and out of mind of human observation until an "interaction" occurred. At this point in time the photon loses it's qubit and has a number of choices. It can be absorbed or re-emitted. There are other posts which deal with this overall process on this site.
He then posed a question regarding the reasons for the apparent lack of effect on the speed of a photon wen and after passing through various refractive media. I answered this because it was a "gimme" and gave the appropriate references to support the effect. see this thread...
© as a constant, ever ask why!, Can we look deeper, many have asked?I gave an analogy that would be easy to understand there involving the shadow of airplanes on undulating landscape. Yquantum is a pilot and this suddenly clicked for him... he "got it" and spread the word around his team. I began to feed him what I could but he and his team were way ahead of me in practically producing this theory.
He was in the process of informing me of some details... I knew that it would be subject to some "sanctions" but it never occurred to me that something would land on it from a great height. The rest is history except that the final theory is "Oh, yes it can be proven now in the century we live in, it is so elegant and beautiful" and "I am one of his many peers, yes he was on something bigger than you can understand at this point in time, very complex in many areas. Who is to know, you might someday read about it in some Science Journal. The sad part is you will never know it was him."
This is just a small note to say I was there too and I also had a place to play in this as well. If anything comes of this I want to say that the human mind did this not some blasted machine and now in the end the maths now works... whatever it is. you may read someday about this if it ever sees the light of day from the dark place it is now hidden. I made a plea to "them" to let Humanity have this secret now and thereby allow the benefits to flow quickly. Now I am in despair about this and its consequences.
The threads you need for this story are (in order)...
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| Hey guys, this is very interesting but I have no background on what you are talking about, do you mind filling me in ? wink.gif Please? |
He he he... You and me both! I guess something will need to be said here about all this It involves a number of threads on this site between Yquantum, myself and other interested people here... . It is either a Theory of Everything or a Theory of Nothing... it is left up to you personally to choose. It goes into my "The Chronicle...News from the Edge file".
The Chronicle... All I can say is that it is not a hoax on my behalf but with the internet I can't vouch for any other parties. Over a long life that "symbolic file" has become quite thick with these sagas and this is just another one of them. What I can say is this that neither yquantum nor "Europe" have any connection to me neither personally or regionally and I am sure that the server cache for this site would back this detail up. I personally authorize this information for release if there is such a thing to show at least I am telling the truth. I can still say that I still think of yquantum as a good friend... not sure about "Europe" though he he he! After I say this my name will be "mud".
My specialty is usually Special and General Relativity and I hail from an earlier episode in Sciences and Technologies. Nowadays I am a practical "elf" engaged in the management and preservation of forests in a State in Australia using Global Information Systems. I have had more professions than most people have had hot breakfasts. I have a Geophysics Major among a couple of other Degrees and Diplomas, I am no "undergrad". Not a good long term career move. The other major character for me is yquantum. He purports to be a "significant" player in the area of String Theory. Well resourced and working at the head of a team in and between large accelerator Facilities that include CERN. Though he seemed very "insular" he is very likable and you begin to accept that he is under a lot of security constraints imposed on him from the "Company" he is working for. He is at heart just a scientist (bit more privileged than most) with "Big Brother" breathing over his shoulder. I understand that was his choice.
When I first met him here and in personal e-mails from the forum, he seemed dejected about the lack of progress being made in his area of String Theory despite what seemed huge mathematical progress, nothing of the Theory appeared to exist in the physical world and it still had a number of serious drawbacks. One of the most serious was the inability to do as much as a single calculation on the Theory to provide a couple of real world observables to get a handle on the heart of the matter. Our most powerful machines are presently "mute" to the complexity of this stuff and the only way through would be with some basic understanding at a human level. We all "know" and are taught it is "impossible" to understand the quantum... I just did not believe it. The only known results of this Theory of any consequence was M-Theory of Ed Witten and the discovery of a couple of very important symmetries. Most importantly T-Duality. To that point in time I had sworn publicly that if String Theory was to amount to anything at all in my lifetime I would eat my beanie (I am an elf you see!)
It seemed a kind of challenge at first... that was the proposed test of string theory you will find in that thread entitled...
Proposed String Theory Test, A new experiment might test stringsWell after the opener where the proposal was made that this may be able to give insight and be able to test the theory at depth I realized that this theory was probably going nowhere... I would give it one chance in 20 of success. The string couplings in present day string theory would not allow this "model" to work. I then sent back what I thought was a pretty convincing argument to debunk this as a "true test". My beanie felt rather save for now.
Then a wildcard was thrown into the equation with yquantum posting an apparently unpublished and unreferenced article by Leonard Susskind which seemed to re-ignite this debate (very famous and astute guy in Strings). He had apparently received "permission" to post it here. It said a lot of things that made sense. There was a great deal of "clear thinking" in that paper and it opened my eyes to the idea that The Theory of Strings may not be what it is all about at all and that we may be speaking of a Supersymmetry on Braneworlds.
I was inspired to view the extra six dimensions which had periodic boundary conditions in Time and Space as the equivalent of a Complex 3-space "Twistor". This was the basis of of the T-Dual "Universe" and electric , magnetic "charges" and even mass itself would be pseudo-properties of the highly compactified "hypersurface" of the Calabi-Yau Space of particles (both Fermionic and Bosonic). This complex 3-space neatly balance our "flat" and non-spinning braneworld in a supersymmetric sense. They are "identical" and represent the same "objects" but it requires a very special treansformation to move from one realm to the other from some "outside" frame they are "completely massless and represent "inside out" representations of each other. There is also a way to identify where all the supersymmetric partners are as well that has not been possible using the standard theory. To get measurements... well thats another question altogether.
It then became clear that our Universe is a "layered" structure in which forces are confined to Universes with shells that correspond to the supersymmetric partner of some fermion... but they are everywhere. These shells are commonly related to the external electronic structure of atoms but not confined to them. Other branes involved were those of photons and that our Universe also has this "shell" and is an "uber-space" that touches the hypersurface of the "hollow" part of our spinning "bosonic" Universe. The three complex "periodic" entities are the equivalent of quarks in sub-atomic particles, ultimately as inseparable as the dimensions they are made from. The rest of this overall empty Universe are "particles" .... just like the ones that make us up and we think are so important to what we believe is the Universe.
The "Vault of the Heavens" out to the most distant extremity of that large Universe above is the "remapped inside" of a tiny particle inside an atom as seen from the outside. This invokes some of those ideas of a Holographic Universe espoused by David Bohm. Unfortunately he was regarded as a flawed genius and little or no attention was paid to his ideas.
The other thing that "fell" out of this purely geometric "theory of everything" is that the structure does not invoke "particles" and only deals with a "single layer of the Universe". The other layers are isolated from the layer we "live " on and can be considered as just "more of the same". The quantum foamy limit at the Planck's Length is gone and the path of quantum particles, though still obeying Quantum Mechanics, became "deterministic" and began to look like the laws of ordinary dynamics following paths in a higher dimensional Lagrangian.
The emission and absorption of photons is a foregone phenomena mapped out "in a space" above our regular Universe of a simple impulse on the outside of this space and its resolution inside this space is the extension of the photon in time and in space , only more of them... now 6 dimensions. The simplification was the space was like ours and connected to the same manifold of 3D + T spacetime yet spinning in six dimensions. This spin of the Calabi-Yau Manifold causes the limb to undergo Special Theory Relativistic Contraction in the direction of spin (all six dimensions). This happens "dynamically" until it can shrink no more and is the atomic particle we "see". Obviously we can't see six dimensions but there are some rare instances of such objects entering our "Bulk" of 3D + T temporarily as "Ball Lightning". These objects exhibit unusual stability with all that energy "boxed" in by the compactified 6-dimensions and the apparent baffling behavior to be able to sometimes move through the interior metal walls of an aircraft. This is attributed to the ability of that object being free to move in those six dimensions and in that realm "the metal box" of the aircraft is not "closed".
Another physical phenomena that exhibits these uber-dimensional phenomena was one I had come in contact with earlier that year. This was the Aharanov-Bohm Effect. This has been proven beyond doubt experimentally and with a almost universal acclaim. However it was immediately "dropped" by the regular Scientific Community as "off the wall" and inexplicable and threatened some of the most cherished ideas of Quantum Mechanics. It is an topological effect that influences particles during quantum "transmission" by utilizing a "global" effect in our Universe. I was able to show how this may be used to transmit particles instantly over vast distances or utilize a supraliminal form of communication. At the time I was not aware of the extra implications of String Theory and suddenly with this new knowledge it all fell into place. It all was a self consistent process.
All of this did not mean much to yquantum since his ideas of String Theory were placed far below the quantum Planck Length in some dimensional "no mans land". This is despite what Ed Witten had said regarding which manifold they were on the implications were unheeded. Now I was able to see that even radio transmitters used crude "bosonic" shells and these were the T-Dual of the antenna that created them. The photons "launched" by those bits of hardware made them travel in that 6 dimensional spinspace and this was out of sight and out of mind of human observation until an "interaction" occurred. At this point in time the photon loses it's qubit and has a number of choices. It can be absorbed or re-emitted. There are other posts which deal with this overall process on this site.
He then posed a question regarding the reasons for the apparent lack of effect on the speed of a photon wen and after passing through various refractive media. I answered this because it was a "gimme" and gave the appropriate references to support the effect. see this thread...
© as a constant, ever ask why!, Can we look deeper, many have asked?I gave an analogy that would be easy to understand there involving the shadow of airplanes on undulating landscape. Yquantum is a pilot and this suddenly clicked for him... he "got it" and spread the word around his team. I began to feed him what I could but he and his team were way ahead of me in practically producing this theory.
He was in the process of informing me of some details... I knew that it would be subject to some "sanctions" but it never occurred to me that something would land on it from a great height. The rest is history except that the final theory is "Oh, yes it can be proven now in the century we live in, it is so elegant and beautiful" and "I am one of his many peers, yes he was on something bigger than you can understand at this point in time, very complex in many areas. Who is to know, you might someday read about it in some Science Journal. The sad part is you will never know it was him."
This is just a small note to say I was there too and I also had a place to play in this as well. If anything comes of this I want to say that the human mind did this not some blasted machine and now in the end the maths now works... whatever it is. you may read someday about this if it ever sees the light of day from the dark place it is now hidden. I made a plea to "them" to let Humanity have this secret now and thereby allow the benefits to flow quickly. Now I am in despair about this and its consequences.
The threads you need for this story are (in order)...
Proposed String Theory Test, A new experiment might test stringsAccess to perpendicular universes, Hypothetically, tachyon speeds...Only Some Energy Has Mass?, Why light would be the exceptionTheory of Spiral Energy, Is light a spiral and not a wave?The Power of Gravity, It can move a potentially infinite massHow does light speed back up on leaving a mediumCalabi Yau Spaces Good Elf?, A question of where they are atThe relativistic mass of light?, It would be directional!Does Magnetism Curve Space and Time?, Do magnetic fields deviate like gravity?© as a constant, ever ask why!, Can we look deeper, many have asked?
Some threads only contain a few of my references but all have part of the story and there are a couple of others too but that is for another time.
Cheers
Good Elf
4th July 2005 - 01:27 PM
Hi 555joshua,
I have not forgotten you or Waterbreath. I just am still trying to make some sense out of all this and trying to decide what it means.
Trivially speaking we (me included) could be the butt of an internet prank. Yet I believe in the things I say and I never say anything unless I have some reasons for saying them. That does not mean that I may be being used in some way as a prank.
On the other hand I felt it was necessary to put all this into a context that I saw as important. This entire episode may fade away into this little site forever and no one will ever know that history was made in the last few days. I only hope that this information is used for something good and not put to dark purpose as I can assure you it could be.
If hidden behind a dark project much mischief could be committed (all in the name of freedom). I have an anecdotal story that I shared with yquantum personally and I can't reveal it here (too personal) but the potential still exists and it worries me.
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All I can say is that the speed of light has a pre decided speed for each substence. I don't know, you might say I need some sleep. Maybe, we are not looking at the problem the right way. I know that if you change your opinion on something, it becomes something else. If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. Maybe it goes through compressed spacetime?
555Joshua Posted on Jul 4 2005, 11:29 AM
That makes sense to me, a vacuum is very stretched, while spacetime around the earth--and even more so around the sun--is very dense.
I think that because you can't see Bosons traveling it is difficult to understand the way this property of spacetime is so altered. I like my block of thick glass and just move it around in your fingers and see how the 3D space is now fitted to the new speed of light. The glass is "almost empty space" to light and so it behaves like a compressed space and those six dimensions exist in there as well. To fit things into compressed spaces needs the luxury of 6-Dimensional photons that are not worried by being "cramped". Remember this must be in an enhanced form of Special and General Relativity to account for those extra spaces. As I have indicated before light and gravity are two totally different things but they do have some very important points where they are "equivalent".
Of course the "real truth" is that the "proto-photons" are not even in the block of glass but are traveling as an uncharged neutral field impulse and what you are seeing are only the trace of such processes in our 3D+ T spacetime (electric and magnetic fields). The 3D block of glass cannot contain them, they just "appear" to be there. Similar to that ball lightning I was talking about. If a particle interaction occurs then that is different (particle scattering) but that is something else altogether... it "pops out" of that "uber-space" into the block of glass.
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All I can say is that the speed of light has a pre decided speed for each substence. I don't know, you might say I need some sleep. Maybe, we are not looking at the problem the right way. I know that if you change your opinion on something, it becomes something else. If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. Maybe it goes through compressed spacetime?
555Joshua Posted on Jul 4 2005, 11:29 AM
That makes sense to me, a vacuum is very stretched, while spacetime around the earth--and even more so around the sun--is very dense. |
I think that because you can't see Bosons traveling it is difficult to understand the way this property of spacetime is so altered. I like my block of thick glass and just move it around in your fingers and see how the 3D space is now fitted to the new speed of light. The glass is "almost empty space" to light and so it behaves like a compressed space and those six dimensions exist in there as well. To fit things into compressed spaces needs the luxury of 6-Dimensional photons that are not worried by being "cramped". Remember this must be in an enhanced form of Special and General Relativity to account for those extra spaces. As I have indicated before light and gravity are two totally different things but they do have some very important points where they are "equivalent".
Of course the "real truth" is that the "proto-photons" are not even in the block of glass but are traveling as an uncharged neutral field impulse and what you are seeing are only the trace of such processes in our 3D+ T spacetime (electric and magnetic fields). The 3D block of glass cannot contain them, they just "appear" to be there. Similar to that ball lightning I was talking about. If a particle interaction occurs then that is different (particle scattering) but that is something else altogether... it "pops out" of that "uber-space" into the block of glass.
One more thing, you spelled pi like the food pie.
Yeah... that happens all the time. I can't find it! I saw one yquantum did but I can't find mine. You could help if you identify the post by clicking on that "bolded" "posted" characters at the top right on the "blue" separator. Do "Ctrl C" and paste "Ctrl V" into a post. Alternatively just put the exact date and time in a post. I will fix it. It is in this thread somewhere isn't it??? I am sure it will not be the last.
Cheers
555Joshua
4th July 2005 - 01:42 PM
Good Elf,
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I think that because you can't see Bosons traveling it is difficult to understand the way this property of spacetime is so altered. I like my block of thick glass and just move it around in your fingers and see how the 3D space is now fitted to the new speed of light. The glass is "almost empty space" to light and so it behaves like a compressed space and those six dimensions exist in there as well. To fit things into compressed spaces needs the luxury of 6-Dimensional photons that are not worried by being "cramped". Remember this must be in an enhanced form of Special and General Relativity to account for those extra spaces. As I have indicated before light and gravity are two totally different things but they do have some very important points where they are "equivalent".
Does that mean I am right?
I have to leave now, (evil stepfather)
It was written my yquantum, and I would have to look for it. Yes it was in this forum.
Good Elf
4th July 2005 - 02:19 PM
Hi 555Joshua,
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Does that mean I am right?
Yep... I guess it does.
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| Does that mean I am right? |
Yep... I guess it does.
It was written by yquantum,
Yeah... saw that one, can't change his post (and would not wish to). Don't worry I have found it.
yquantums "pie"Cheers
555Joshua
5th July 2005 - 10:44 AM
Good Elf,
You know, you should have seen this one guy--Iwanttotimetravel I think--he said you can't use logic to figure anything out in quantum physics, but, that's exactly what I used. I don't know any complicated math equations. I guess we'll stand by are findings, think no more, until yquantum comes back and tells us we're wrong.
Ta-ta
Good Elf
5th July 2005 - 12:05 PM
Hi 555Joshua,
555Joshua Posted on Jul 5 2005, 10:44 AM
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I think--he said you can't use logic to figure anything out in quantum physics, but, that's exactly what I used.
I know... listen to no one who wants to limit how or what you think. It is really the only freedom humans can share. They will take everything else. We are capable of much more than any realize... believe me on that.
The onus of proof is the only guard against "belief systems" that stifle true Science. Luckily many have gone before and done the hard yards and have left much to ponder. Not just in theory but in their experiments. When in doubt think... experiment... and you will find something that will either support or undermine you. You just need to be big enough to accept that in the end the Universe will have the last say.
Where the Univese is mute... there lies Nobel Prizes... he he he!
Cheers
555Joshua
5th July 2005 - 01:45 PM
Hi Good Elf,
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I know... listen to no one who wants to limit how or what you think. It is really the only freedom humans can share. They will take everything else. We are capable of much more than any realize... believe me on that.
I Through some convincing evidence at him, and he shut up. For one thing, I used logic to come up with my understanding of time travel. I only listened to him long enough to tell him he was wrong.
555Joshua
5th July 2005 - 01:51 PM
So now what are we going to do until yquantum gives us the goods?
Good Elf
5th July 2005 - 02:23 PM
Hi 555Joshua,
I thought you had noticed that the "lights are going out" on this one. Some of his posts, especially the important ones, are disappearing already. I am afraid we are not going to hear any more from yquantum anymore.
I wish he would respond but if you have been following... this "stuff" is going "apparently" under deep cover. You see yquantum was always a bit of a maverick. He is not supposed to speak with us "out here". We are a high security risk! I wished that what he and his team had produced from our collective ideas was to be scientifically published but appears that will not be happening now... for neither of us. Forget the jump to light drive and fusion in a bottle for quite some time.
As to Time Travel time lord... you will have to wait for that too.
All I will say is "it will happen".
Cheers
blondie
5th July 2005 - 10:01 PM
Good Elf,
Thank you for your detailed reply.Not to repeat this same old story but I also know someone who is very advanced in physics (understatement) and he has come up with basically the same theory about us living in a holograph, there is no mass, everything has to do with strength of magnetic fields. This work was done in 1997. Yeah, this stuff that europebased has come out with is a little strange. I'll take some time to look up the links to the info you gave me. Thank you so much
"THEY"
5th July 2005 - 10:43 PM
HOLY COW...... I don't use the internet on weekends. I was trying to get updated on this thread since it was getting interesting last week, and he's gone! (wimper) I will only be able to guess what was said. I think I will reprint the whole thread and read it at home tonight and see what I can glean.... This sucks. I hope his job status is ok. So obviously his ideas ARE on the right track. What a mind that guy has.
"THEY"
6th July 2005 - 12:04 AM
Good Elf - was wondering if you should delete your posts that have his quotes? Since he deleted all his posts? Or maybe we could con Neutron into deleting this thread? Just don't want rumors spread and you know how good news travels! Protect your buddy.
Good Elf
6th July 2005 - 05:09 AM
Hi "THEY",
"THEY" Posted on Jul 6 2005, 12:04 AM
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Good Elf - was wondering if you should delete your posts that have his quotes? Since he deleted all his posts?
I refuse to believe this is his will on this matter. What is happening will not make this right nor his security any more secure. They already know "the lot" on this one. What have they got to be worried about other than being "boosted" a hundred years into the future... he he he! He may even get a medal eh! Contributions made on this site were done mainly by me and I am proud of what I did. All right... without the context now it is not as useful. Still I have copies of "everything" and if I chose to I could put it all back... I won't though. I helped yquantum... he may not be able to help me but I do not agree that removing anything from this site is protecting yquantum... it is now protecting me.
It protects me from "madness" and from the arbitrary whims of the vagaries of "security". Yquantum may have the theory in a mathematical form to protect him but I have nothing other than what is in my mind... and it is not enough. It is a rather lonely space to be. I really feel the rejection and the loss of yquantum. He had much to lose and he has a family to think of... so do I but I am far more vulnerable. I think I will have to just think about it a while. There is little else.
I have been "erased" once before (last year) this could happen again. I have no idea to what lengths this event will progress.
Cheers
555Joshua
6th July 2005 - 10:28 AM
This blows.
Why didn't he wait until at least two weeks before he could spill the beans?
Good Elf
6th July 2005 - 10:56 AM
Hi 555Joshua,
I am unable to interpret this... just the way it goes. Sorry everyone.
Cheers... well sort of!
555Joshua
6th July 2005 - 12:10 PM
Good Elf,
I geuss we just sit here and blow spit bubbles.
Ta-ta
Good Elf
6th July 2005 - 02:39 PM
Hi 555Joshua,
Don't drool on your bib... ask a question!
I cant think too straight just now.
Cheers
WaterBreath
6th July 2005 - 04:35 PM
I asked a question way back when, but never got an answer... I don't think so, anyway...
Here's the post where I asked my question:
http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtop...indpost&p=18448Did you answer and I missed it? If not, could you explain what was meant?
MegaManX
6th July 2005 - 07:50 PM
Hi all, I've been following the stream of threads related to this one, and am sorry that yquantum has disappeared along with most of his posts. While not much of a physicist myself, I have enjoyed the discussions.
I'm not sure whether I should say this or not, but Google has everything in this thread (and others) cached up until July 3rd at 1203am. I won't tell you how to get at this, but if you can figure it out, you can read most of the conversations in full...
--
"In a democracy, the government and its agencies work for us because they are us. When there becomes a separation of the government and the people, the democracy is dead."
philip347
7th July 2005 - 12:01 AM
Josh, the speed of light at C is given two ways, one in medium, which would be atmosphere and two in space, which would be near vacuo.
Since C at length, or its frequency realm is measured, via resistance in astmphere, there is always diffraction within the atmosphere.
C is not a true product when having to negeoate through air, as air carried elements, and resistance, over no air is offered.
C in space differs, as there is little or no resistance, other than contigular space, that C goes through.
So at overall length, say hundreds of thousands of light years, C not only replicates it own origin, or refreshes itself, but varies dynamically from its own source origin.
It has to be this way.
Very deep seated objects, such as from the deep Hubble field, are a reciprocal phenomenon, as this light is so old and refracted, that you, for this distance as an observer, are not seeing the light as it once truly was.
The light as it passes through time, changes by its traveling nature.
So what you are actually viewing is a reprocessed light, from aeons ago, which has now reciprocally changed, to foretell of an old existence to the new.
If old light were key accessed by time travel, via the realm into its frequency, then this would mean that there would be no time that we as a culture not have privy to, due to mass as a realm be easily accessed through the blueprint of C.
"THEY"
7th July 2005 - 12:35 AM
Good Elf - I finally read through about half of what was posted over the weekend, didn't realise just quite how paramount you were in this whole deal. It is truly too bad that you can no longer be involved! He needed someone to bounce ideas off of and shape his ideas, and you did that very well. (wow, to be on that level of intelligence! I am envious) I am sure he misses you...
Curiosity has me though, is this only a revelation on speed of light (what an enlightening subject!), or is it a new TOE that happens to prove/support FTL?
(BTW, I don't like the phrase TOE, it is more theory of what we currently understand... We are FAR from knowing everything!
But we do need a theory that works better)
Good Elf
7th July 2005 - 12:59 AM
Hi WaterBreath,
I am really sorry I did not get back to you on this one.
WaterBreath Posted: Jul 1 2005, 07:09 PM
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I hope no one is upset that I'm going to take this somewhat off track for a moment. Hopefully a quick answer will do and we can all get back to pondering what yq is up to over there.
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I hope no one is upset that I'm going to take this somewhat off track for a moment. Hopefully a quick answer will do and we can all get back to pondering what yq is up to over there.
(Good Elf)
The boundary conditions are periodic in frequency (1/T) and wavelength (1/L).
I've seen you make this proposition several times regarding the "internal" CYS... but I have to admit I'm really not sure what it means. I've been hoping that I'd have a revelation one day when thinking about your posts, but it hasn't happened. If there is any way you (or someone else) can give a quick explanation of what precisely you mean by the boundary conditions being periodic, I would greatly appreciate it.
I guess I might have to wait a few hours though... It's early afternoon where I am. Don't rush though! Today I was later to work than I like to be (though I have flexibility, I prefer to be in early), because of the forum. I definitely don't want to get anyone in trouble with my silly questions. |
Most of this stuff was in response to Nicks question.
Calabi-Yau SpacesThis thread is a useful read because it distills most of what I understand of those spaces. I "lift" information from the literature as I need it when I think it is reasonable. Not without a little mental "thinky" about all the possibilities though. I am sorry that I do this but my talent is not in laborious mathematics and proofs... it is in distilling the information into what I see is a consistent understanding from all those separate facts. The literature itself describes the Calabi-Yau space as having specialized boundary conditions. I quote myself in that post here...
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The apparent two dimensional surface have special boundary conditions there to join the manifold of our 3D + T spacetime to that 6D space using the 2D boundary conditions plus 4 other "free" boundary conditions. These are dirichlet and neumann boundary conditions respectively. These represent "fixed" and "free" boundaries of the "portal"
The "apparent" two dimensional surface is the nexus between our 3D + T spacetime and the extra six dimensions of the Calabi-Yau Space. It is joined on all six dimensions but these are the conditions for C-Y particles limited in our 3D + T space. The mixed boundary conditions were a consequence of the Theoretical Papers I trawled and noted there that the issue was unresolved. I decided that the resolution was to conceive of these six spatial dimensions with "periodic and spatial boundary conditions" as a three Complex dimensional twistor (two dynamic spatial dimensions each) as a three space manifold attached to our 3D + T "Bulk". This "interprets" the cotangetial spaces of the our braneworld and the bosonic world as rotating frame referenced and "equivalent". This is to satisfy the supersymmetric T-Dual Universe that was on our greater manifold as Ed Witten has suggested.
Rotation is only what we see from our point of view in the "Bulk" (well... if we could see it). Seen from the cotangetial frame of reference it would be at rest and our 3D + T would be spinning in 6 Dimensions and it would then be a 3D + T "parallel" bulk. You need to ask about the mass and the reason why such a transformation is possible? Mass, electric fields and magnetism (and also charges) are all pseudo-properties of this compactified space and its 6D spin. The CYS have it as seen from the "outside" and we have it as seen from the "inside". These two views are not simply equivalent they are the same and are "Dual". This is almost invisible to us and can only be understood as the result of those stresses in the bosonic shell of our "externally shrunken" Universe and through such effects as the Aharanov-Bohm Effect and of course quantum phenomena which is the main "inhabitant" of the 6D hyperspace. It is the main inhabitant of the space because photons are the exchange forces in our Universe and that "empty" boson we are viewing from the inside is our "Universe".
Seen externally it is "Complex" 3D highly spun shell... Complex meaning "square root of -1". The three entities spinning (the 3D twistor) are what we term quarks in the subatomic realm with their attendant gluons... the equivalent to photons. If they stay where they belong they are another physically similar layer in our Holographic Universe "down" and in an unseen way "up" as well. Try and "extract" them from inside that "dimension" will modify their properties and it becomes "radioactivity" and convert the supersymmetric partners to the form of particles we understand from the work done on accelerators in the "external" bosonic environment. We have no direct experimental data from within that realm but the realm exists none the less.
From a more practical angle... the boundary conditions are isomorphous with the idea that a radio antenna is also periodic in frequency and wavelength. This is a fourier condition on the surface of its "shell". The frequency is identified with the transmitters frequency and the wavelength relates to the apparent extent in space of the bosonic envelope... they are the practical consequences. The photons are launched from the "pseudo-fermionic" shell of the antenna mast by accelerating electrons into the radiation near-field and depending on geometry "leak" out as photons... or alternatively trapped in the electromagnetic field inductively. The radio transmitter is only using "one extra Complex dimension" to launch the photons into the CYS and the uber-space. There is another level of Radiophysics here to be tapped... three Complex directions.
I hope that clears it up. I have invented a "jargon" to handle this... sorry about that... someone has to otherwise it is meaningless.
Cheers
Good Elf
7th July 2005 - 01:31 AM
Hi MegaManX,
MegaManX Posted on Jul 6 2005, 07:50 PM
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I'm not sure whether I should say this or not, but Google has everything in this thread (and others) cached up until July 3rd at 1203am. I won't tell you how to get at this, but if you can figure it out, you can read most of the conversations in full...
Thanks MegaManX if people want this I can also give them a "precis" by a zipped version of this thread. Just send me your email address by PM or e-mail. Remember this is up to you securitywise, I can think of no other way to send this stuff without your address.
If you wish to preserve your anonymity see if you can work out how to access those cashed pages and come back here and tell all of us how.
Cheers
Good Elf
7th July 2005 - 02:05 AM
Hi "THEY",
Thanks for the "street cred"
I have no idea myself just how much I can trust what I have said in the light of the lack of any real proof... yquantum kept very much to himself. I didn't mind but now I do.
"THEY" Posted on Jul 7 2005, 12:35 AM
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Curiosity has me though, is this only a revelation on speed of light (what an enlightening subject!), or is it a new TOE that happens to prove/support FTL?
Well it is a TOE (of sorts). As you say this is not the beginning of the end it is just the end of the beginning... he he he! I can see no end to development in Physics for at least a thousand years as Ben Franklin had prophesied.
Ben FranklinWe bide our time now until a sanitized form of the mathematical Theory may one day be released. In the interim... I am a little worried.... But I have faith that knowledge is ultimately a great leveler and those who wish to control it often will end up at the wrong end of the stick. You may creep around in darkness but ultimately you can't deny the light. In the meantime... Who knows I might beat them to the gate... he he he!
As yquantum said (just before everything was removed)...
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Well it is a TOE (of sorts). As you say this is not the beginning of the end it is just the end of the beginning... he he he! I can see no end to development in Physics for at least a thousand years as Ben Franklin had prophesied.
Ben FranklinWe bide our time now until a sanitized form of the mathematical Theory may one day be released. In the interim... I am a little worried.... But I have faith that knowledge is ultimately a great leveler and those who wish to control it often will end up at the wrong end of the stick. You may creep around in darkness but ultimately you can't deny the light. In the meantime... Who knows I might beat them to the gate... he he he!
As yquantum said (just before everything was removed)...
I believe that in the history of physics, and of deep thought there has always been at every living moment of culture a ?desire to understand the unintuitive.? This is not the prerogative of the last decade only, the question is what to do in 2005. All history is nothing but a succession of ?crises? of greed, repudiation and resistance to serendipity of new laws on the horizon. When there is no ?crisis,? there is stagnation, petrification and death of the spirit to learn. All thought, all true science is aggressive.
But an "aggression" akin to a seeding that strives toward the light in order to survive.
The theory puts "everything" onto a supersymmetric braneworld Dual and in 10 dimensions even Quantum Theory will map in such a way that it will conform roughly to a fully geometrical version of Bohmian Mechanics where the motion of particles are deterministic but in higher dimensions defined by a Lagrangian generalization. It is completely compatible with Special and General Theory but in compactified spaces with an increase in dimensions. It is not built on Quantum Theory but on a modified form of Kaluza-Klein Theory which is based on Einsteins Special and General Theories. It leads to a far more complex interpretation of the Universe but in the end a richer place for us to "play" in.
The Universe becomes "layered" and "Holographic". The latter ideas were a contribution by David Bohm... more of a "visionary" than a Physicist... Einstein's greatest pupil.... "well done good and faithful servant".
I can almost "taste" the applications right now.
Cheers
555Joshua
7th July 2005 - 10:55 AM
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Well it is a TOE (of sorts). As you say this is not the beginning of the end it is just the end of the beginning... he he he! I can see no end to development in Physics for at least a thousand years as Ben Franklin had prophesied.
Good Elf,
According to this, we have about 771 years left to come up with our theories. I feal the presser.
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Good Elf,
According to this, we have about 771 years left to come up with our theories. I feal the presser.
Josh, the speed of light at C is given two ways, one in medium, which would be atmosphere and two in space, which would be near vacuo.
Phillip347,
Thank you for your insightful post. However, I don't remember asking a question.
Old Synapses
7th July 2005 - 03:43 PM
Hi Good Elf
I too have been following your discourse with yq (let’s hope the thought police haven’t got him) with fascination. I am getting to the point in life where the synapses fail to fire as often as I would like and am endeavouring to understand the elementary principles of QM, TOE etc. to keep the neurons working. I have been hoping that through reading all yours and yqs posts the knowledge would somehow osmose & I would become an expert in no time (!)
I really like the way you put your points with clarity, humanity & humour & wish we had more people like you in my country (UK) who could enthuse more of our young people to take up the sciences.
It’s quite clear to me that you were instrumental in yq having his Eureka moment, and if it’s the logic and not the math that counts surely it becomes a matter of altering one’s mindset/perception on the matter. You seem more than capable of that so, if you could make the leap yourself, you could publish all & claim the Nobel prize … he..he.
Sorry for this long post – it’s my first – a couple of probably v. elementary questions:
1. I like your visual analogies – if we’re in a holographic world what’s your analogy of the coherent ‘reference’ beam we need to resolve the interference pattern – or are we dealing with a ‘here’s one I made earlier’ already complete hologram?
2. I’ve read that the most recent thinking on string theory suggests that there are 11 dimensions – what’s happened to the 11th, and does it matter?
Answers in a form that won’t strain the neurons too much please.
Finally if you’re ever in the UK, happy to buy you a drink or three any time.
Cheers
Good Elf
7th July 2005 - 11:43 PM
Hi Old Synapses,
Thanks for the rap... If I am ever in UK you can be assured that I will look you up. My synapses are probably older than you think.
Bye the way and I must say this... my deepest sympathies are with every Briton today, this senseless murder grieves me deeply and there can be no sympathy for those who use such techniques against the innocent.
Old Synapses Posted on Jul 7 2005, 03:43 PM
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Sorry for this long post – it’s my first
Hey... I thought you read my "stuff" ... he he he!
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Hey... I thought you read my "stuff" ... he he he!
1. I like your visual analogies – if we’re in a holographic world what’s your analogy of the coherent ‘reference’ beam we need to resolve the interference pattern – or are we dealing with a ‘here’s one I made earlier’ already complete hologram?
Holographic in the sense that the whole Universe, whatever that may be for we are unable to see all of it, encodes itself at every level. Thats not to say that it is "perfectly" holographic, for there may be more beauty in imperfection that in perfection. While small means higher energies from the fixed point of view of our paradigm of a single Universe, I can see no enforced granularity at the base of the "next layer down"... the Planck's Length. The concept of "energy" needs to be more strictly adhered to so that we understand that it too is "relative" and attempts to extract particles by "brute force" using Accelerators may be flawed. There may be other more subtle ways.
I suppose in pure speculation the Greater Universe may be some finite "Hall of Mirrors" that loops and ultimately closes it off, or it may not.... another "cosmological constant"... he he he! I have often used the analogy of "Russian Dolls", each doll representing "a layer" which can be treated as separate from the next layer. Obviously not a one to one and onto... We are "egocentric" and see the Universe in terms of "ourselves" when the Universe is far greater and bigger in what is not ourselves.
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2. I’ve read that the most recent thinking on string theory suggests that there are 11 dimensions – what’s happened to the 11th, and does it matter?
I can say this if Ed Witten needs that extra dimension to allow those 5 separate theories to coalesce it does not have to be another actual "physical" dimension as the other 10 must surely be. I am not qualified to comment on this finer point except to say 10 appears to be enough but I have a paramatized time when moving from the outside to the inside of a brane. The reciprocal spaces do not map easily in 3D + T, you may need to "pull another one out of the bag" if the geometry is not understood.
I may not fully understand the geometry... it is only a start. I do not know what yquantum's true impediment was... he did not tell me. I simply provide the "paradigm" to see how to proceed. We all need to understand where we are heading. "...A tall ship and a star to steer her by". I fully understand this will need testing and I can only say that it is the "child" of my interpretations. Ten, eleven or twelve who really knows... my theory "likes" 10 for the things I want to presently describe. If I see the need I will add a dimension or two to bridge that gap as I come to it... eh!
I do not need it for gravity or mass since all forces arise "naturally" from the frames of reference.
Cheers
555Joshua
8th July 2005 - 11:01 AM
Hi Good Elf,
Shouldn't it be "© as a constant, ever ask why?!?"?
QUOTE (Good Elf+)
Bye the way and I must say this... my deepest sympathies are with every Briton today, this senseless murder grieves me deeply and there can be no sympathy for those who use such techniques against the innocent.
Yep, They piss me off too. I heard the Friends star, David...Schwim--whatever was there too. I don't see their point, and talking about it makes me angry.
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Ten, eleven or twelve who really knows... my theory "likes" 10 for the things I want to presently describe. If I see the need I will add a dimension or two to bridge that gap as I come to it... eh!
My theory calls for more dimensions also, I don't know how many.
Ta-ta
Good Elf
8th July 2005 - 12:48 PM
Hi 555Joshua,
555Joshua Posted on Jul 8 2005, 11:01 AM
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Shouldn't it be "© as a constant, ever ask why?!?"?
You got me... that was yquantum's question. However that is what he usually used to signify the speed of light.ie. ©. Oh... the punctuation was wrong... he he he! Picky!
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You got me... that was yquantum's question. However that is what he usually used to signify the speed of light.ie. ©. Oh... the punctuation was wrong... he he he! Picky!
I don't see their point, and talking about it makes me angry.
There really is no point to terrorism. never think that terrorists intend anything other than sheer terror, that
IS their point. I see where there is that debate "raging" on and about the G8 talks or the Olympics being a reason. My opinion is these events including the "riots" at the G8 only diverted essential scrutiny from other more mundane security matters and allowed the terrorists a window of opportunity to act.
Terrorists would view those "domestic" matters as simply distractions from their evil agenda of harm to civilians. It is a war they cannot win so they are content to continue for hundreds of years if necessary until we all are exhausted and lose faith in ourselves.
The most important thing to understand is not to react too much to the situation. I am well aware that the "Brits" will handle it well, they didn't go through the "Battle of Britain" and have all that destruction in vain. They will not allow their people to suffer more than a very minimal loss of freedoms during these events. The US has not had too many incidents on their home turf and their way is to automatically over-react and remove all the hard won freedoms in weeks that took centuries to gain. It goes with the isolation. They should observe how well the Britons handle this... remember all the bombings they have had in recent years from the IRA, they are tough and they will not yield. In the end there will be respect for them through this tragedy. I believe 18 Australians are also injured as well. It is part of our collective "Karma" I guess... the USA, Britain and Australia and other nations like Spain and Japan... I have left a few out but not intentionally.
We must always remember that terrorists do not represent the Nations that they hail from or the law abiding peoples in Britain from those regions. It is too easy to deflect anger, out of fear, on to the innocent as has often happened in the past and also in the present. May whatever gods that look on man protect those who are innocent in times such as these... and whatever righteousness each and every one has be as shields to this evil... indifferent to race, color or creed.
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My theory calls for more dimensions also, I don't know how many
Use only what is prudent for the job... no more, no less. There is a view that you solve all the problems with a fully generalized solution. A tour de force most assuredly but usually have no practical applications. Simple is best for getting the idea across.
Cheers
555Joshua
8th July 2005 - 01:37 PM
Good Elf,
No no, I ment: shouldn't it have a question mark. He wrote © correctly, it just came out wrong {( c )}.
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There really is no point to terrorism. never think that terrorists intend anything other than sheer terror, that IS their point. I see where there is that debate "raging" on and about the G8 talks or the Olympics being a reason. My opinion is these events including the "riots" at the G8 only diverted essential scrutiny from other more mundane security matters and allowed the terrorists a window of opportunity to act.
Terrorists would view those "domestic" matters as simply distractions from their evil agenda of harm to civilians. It is a war they cannot win so they are content to continue for hundreds of years if necessary until we all are exhausted and lose faith in ourselves.
The most important thing to understand is not to react too much to the situation. I am well aware that the "Brits" will handle it well, they didn't go through the "Battle of Britain" and have all that destruction in vain. They will not allow their people to suffer more than a very minimal loss of freedoms during these events. The US has not had too many incidents on their home turf and their way is to automatically over-react and remove all the hard won freedoms in weeks that took centuries to gain. It goes with the isolation. They should observe how well the Britons handle this... remember all the bombings they have had in recent years from the IRA, they are tough and they will not yield. In the end there will be respect for them through this tragedy. I believe 18 Australians are also injured as well. It is part of our collective "Karma" I guess... the USA, Britain and Australia and other nations like Spain and Japan... I have left a few out but not intentionally.
We must always remember that terrorists do not represent the Nations that they hail from or the law abiding peoples in Britain from those regions. It is too easy to deflect anger, out of fear, on to the innocent as has often happened in the past and also in the present. May whatever gods that look on man protect those who are innocent in times such as these... and whatever righteousness each and every one has be as shields to this evil... indifferent to race, color or greed.
Yes, as prophecized in the Bible, the end is near. This is what is supposed to happen. It will not get better, only worse. And since you are not a God fearing man I will stop.
They think they are the hotshots, that by blowing people up they will go to heaven. I know that each one who has carried out these attacks are burning in hell, where they belong. The true martyrs are the ones who they have killed. And the fact that they don't see this prooves their foolishness.
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There really is no point to terrorism. never think that terrorists intend anything other than sheer terror, that IS their point. I see where there is that debate "raging" on and about the G8 talks or the Olympics being a reason. My opinion is these events including the "riots" at the G8 only diverted essential scrutiny from other more mundane security matters and allowed the terrorists a window of opportunity to act.
Terrorists would view those "domestic" matters as simply distractions from their evil agenda of harm to civilians. It is a war they cannot win so they are content to continue for hundreds of years if necessary until we all are exhausted and lose faith in ourselves.
The most important thing to understand is not to react too much to the situation. I am well aware that the "Brits" will handle it well, they didn't go through the "Battle of Britain" and have all that destruction in vain. They will not allow their people to suffer more than a very minimal loss of freedoms during these events. The US has not had too many incidents on their home turf and their way is to automatically over-react and remove all the hard won freedoms in weeks that took centuries to gain. It goes with the isolation. They should observe how well the Britons handle this... remember all the bombings they have had in recent years from the IRA, they are tough and they will not yield. In the end there will be respect for them through this tragedy. I believe 18 Australians are also injured as well. It is part of our collective "Karma" I guess... the USA, Britain and Australia and other nations like Spain and Japan... I have left a few out but not intentionally.
We must always remember that terrorists do not represent the Nations that they hail from or the law abiding peoples in Britain from those regions. It is too easy to deflect anger, out of fear, on to the innocent as has often happened in the past and also in the present. May whatever gods that look on man protect those who are innocent in times such as these... and whatever righteousness each and every one has be as shields to this evil... indifferent to race, color or greed.
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Yes, as prophecized in the Bible, the end is near. This is what is supposed to happen. It will not get better, only worse. And since you are not a God fearing man I will stop.
They think they are the hotshots, that by blowing people up they will go to heaven. I know that each one who has carried out these attacks are burning in hell, where they belong. The true martyrs are the ones who they have killed. And the fact that they don't see this prooves their foolishness.
Use only what is prudent for the job... no more, no less. There is a view that you solve all the problems with a fully generalized solution. A tour de force most assuredly but usually have no practical applications. Simple is best for getting the idea across.
I am currently using eight dimentions, however, I am sure there are more. I believe time travel is possible, and if so, there must be more dimentions.
Ta-ta
Old Synapses
8th July 2005 - 02:08 PM
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The most important thing to understand is not to react too much to the situation. I am well aware that the "Brits" will handle it well, they didn't go through the "Battle of Britain" and have all that destruction in vain. They will not allow their people to suffer more than a very minimal loss of freedoms during these events
Thanks guys - the most important thing to remember is if we don't carry on as normal thy will have won. Nevertheless I'm glad I wasn't on the underground this morning!
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Thanks guys - the most important thing to remember is if we don't carry on as normal thy will have won. Nevertheless I'm glad I wasn't on the underground this morning!
I have often used the analogy of "Russian Dolls", each doll representing "a layer" which can be treated as separate from the next layer.
Does this imply there may be some sort of multi-layered 'Universal' DNA?
Have to try and see through the blown spume.
Cheers
Guest
8th July 2005 - 02:57 PM
QUOTE (yquantum+Jun 30 2005, 11:45 PM)
d-0
maybe like planets, heavy particles create dents in space-time, therefore light has to travel in many bends creating the illusion of slowing down when it was actually travelling longer distances in dense particle mediums
Nick
8th July 2005 - 11:35 PM
QUOTE (Guest+Jul 8 2005, 02:57 PM)
QUOTE (yquantum+Jun 30 2005, 11:45 PM)
d-0
maybe like planets, heavy particles create dents in space-time, therefore light has to travel in many bends creating the illusion of slowing down when it was actually travelling longer distances in dense particle mediums
That's my point. Scientists shouldn't be misleading people
by saying the speed of light is slower when there is really
just a time delay. Longer paths wouldn't actually mean
slower light!!!
Good Elf
8th July 2005 - 11:44 PM
Hi 555Joshua,
555Joshua Posted on Jul 8 2005, 01:37 PM
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And since you are not a God fearing man I will stop.
You are right... I am an elf... he he he! More seriously when two monotheistic religions meet head on, each with the same "God" and Mythology... and both intent on putting an "end to things"... I worry. What of the innocent? I am sure this is not the intention of any "deity" to destroy what he himself has created. Partake of this "feast" at your peril. There is great evil in it.
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You are right... I am an elf... he he he! More seriously when two monotheistic religions meet head on, each with the same "God" and Mythology... and both intent on putting an "end to things"... I worry. What of the innocent? I am sure this is not the intention of any "deity" to destroy what he himself has created. Partake of this "feast" at your peril. There is great evil in it.
I am currently using eight dimentions, however, I am sure there are more. I believe time travel is possible, and if so, there must be more dimentions.
Sounds very reasonable to me... he he he!
Cheers
Good Elf
9th July 2005 - 12:13 AM
Hi Old Synapses,
Old Synapses Posted on Jul 8 2005, 02:08 PM
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Thanks guys - the most important thing to remember is if we don't carry on as normal thy will have won. Nevertheless I'm glad I wasn't on the underground this morning!
You are very welcome... You and me both. My deepest sympathy is with the families of the dead and with the injured. The evil ones will find there is no gain in what they do.
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| Thanks guys - the most important thing to remember is if we don't carry on as normal thy will have won. Nevertheless I'm glad I wasn't on the underground this morning! |
You are very welcome... You and me both. My deepest sympathy is with the families of the dead and with the injured. The evil ones will find there is no gain in what they do.
Does this imply there may be some sort of multi-layered 'Universal' DNA?
Looks like I need to backtrack a little. I think you have read where I mentioned that a metalized DNA strand was found to be superconducting.... Is that it? I have had over 750 posts and that is only since I did a restart... He he he! Please impute no mystical or all embracing idea on what I am saying. It is only Physics... mind you I take it rather "seriously" but a layer in my way of thinking is a kind of simplification. I believe that it is difficult to go beyond "a layer" with the Physics since the maths becomes too difficult. We live inside a bosonic Universe... all that empty space. Matter is fermionic and "on the next layer". There is interaction especially when considering "sources" but otherwise much of what is happening is related to the exchange forces in that "boson" as far as we are concerned. Above the "uber-space" are other "fermions" and "bosons" and other "Universes"... and so also below and all around. It is a lot to consider but to consider more is too complex. You must choose the "frame of reference" and it will be in one of these "layers" and work with it there. If you do that it is possible to get some answers.
There may be more but that is for others to consider. Only bite off as much as you can chew! Included in the bosonic "layer" we are in is all of Quantum Electrodynamics, that is the electronic structure of atoms which is incomplete in only 3D + T spacetime. There are "assumptions" about the quantum in order to "flatten" this space and parametrize it onto the surface of spacetime. The maths will give the same results, there are gains to be had philosophically and insight to be made in "new physics" by a generalization.
Cheers
NidStyles
10th July 2005 - 09:21 PM
Sorry to drag this discussion into a slight U-turn. I haven't been here as of late. i have peeked, but not had the real-time to post much less contemplate what was here.
QUOTE (Good Elf+)
]But an "aggression" akin to a seeding that strives toward the light in order to survive.
I agree witht his ideal. In order to change something you have to charge head forawrd, and put your best minds into it. The real problems is finding who those best minds are.
QUOTE (Good Elf+)
The theory puts "everything" onto a supersymmetric braneworld Dual and in 10 dimensions even Quantum Theory will map in such a way that it will conform roughly to a fully geometrical version of Bohmian Mechanics where the motion of particles are deterministic but in higher dimensions defined by a Lagrangian generalization. It is completely compatible with Special and General Theory but in compactified spaces with an increase in dimensions. It is not built on Quantum Theory but on a modified form of Kaluza-Klein Theory which is based on Einsteins Special and General Theories. It leads to a far more complex interpretation of the Universe but in the end a richer place for us to "play" in.
I think I can do it with without higher dimensions, but I'm sure it wouldn't matter, because I did away with GR in my model. I personally see GR, and SR as being slightly flawed, but that's a different thread.
QUOTE (Good Elf+)
The Universe becomes "layered" and "Holographic". The latter ideas were a contribution by David Bohm... more of a "visionary" than a Physicist... Einstein's greatest pupil.... "well done good and faithful servant".
With do respect I agree. I think if he had seen how GR would have worked out today, he would have written something far better.
QUOTE (Good Elf+)
I can almost "taste" the applications right now.
Cheers
Just don't forget us, and be sure to let me know what happens if you ever decide to make the switch to the Physics world. Otherwise known as the Darkside in the evangelist communities.
Good Elf
11th July 2005 - 12:36 AM
Hi Nid,
I would never go over to the "Darkside in the evangelist communities" whatever that means. I have seen all the Star Wars episodes and I know how all the "baddies" end up!
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I think I can do it with without higher dimensions, but I'm sure it wouldn't matter, because I did away with GR in my model. I personally see GR, and SR as being slightly flawed, but that's a different thread.
Yes... Ur... well... considering that String Theory is "rooted' very solidly in "Einstein" and the rest is to me a bit of a problem that needs fixing there will be "issues" eh! Highly curved spacetimes are going to be an issue even with GR. The point about the higher dimensions is that I need them to "encapsulate" quantum theory (and the quantum). As it stands it will not work being just a scalar expectation value and thus not a mapping into spatial dimensions. Square block will not fit round hole. The six extra spatial dimensions are actual physical spatial dimensions and though mapped a "bit funny" are a very real advantage over purely mathematical spaces such as Psi Squared. Quantum Theory has been "beaten flat" to fit into 3D + T spacetime. To do that a number of assumptions were necessary.
The only realm in which I can curve spaces is from the perspective of the actual source of "electromagnetism" not its projection into flat 3D + T spacetime which is "unmoved" by the electric and magnetic fields being only traces in our Universe. These phenomena (electric and magnetic fields) are physically "close" to the "Uberspace" but are not in it and never will be a part of it. The only time 3D + T is truly relevant is during the action of emission and absorption at source (oh... also the influence of the rest of the "system" as a secondary phenomena). If you need clarification on this ask in your next e-mail and I can reply. I may be wrong but it is my "take" on it.
The "extra dimensions" are now "philosophically integrated" into the World View. I don't know how others did without them before this time. There are a number of "assumptions" that can be dropped once this mental hurdle is crossed. There are a number of good experimental reasons for having them.
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Yes... Ur... well... considering that String Theory is "rooted' very solidly in "Einstein" and the rest is to me a bit of a problem that needs fixing there will be "issues" eh! Highly curved spacetimes are going to be an issue even with GR. The point about the higher dimensions is that I need them to "encapsulate" quantum theory (and the quantum). As it stands it will not work being just a scalar expectation value and thus not a mapping into spatial dimensions. Square block will not fit round hole. The six extra spatial dimensions are actual physical spatial dimensions and though mapped a "bit funny" are a very real advantage over purely mathematical spaces such as Psi Squared. Quantum Theory has been "beaten flat" to fit into 3D + T spacetime. To do that a number of assumptions were necessary.
The only realm in which I can curve spaces is from the perspective of the actual source of "electromagnetism" not its projection into flat 3D + T spacetime which is "unmoved" by the electric and magnetic fields being only traces in our Universe. These phenomena (electric and magnetic fields) are physically "close" to the "Uberspace" but are not in it and never will be a part of it. The only time 3D + T is truly relevant is during the action of emission and absorption at source (oh... also the influence of the rest of the "system" as a secondary phenomena). If you need clarification on this ask in your next e-mail and I can reply. I may be wrong but it is my "take" on it.
The "extra dimensions" are now "philosophically integrated" into the World View. I don't know how others did without them before this time. There are a number of "assumptions" that can be dropped once this mental hurdle is crossed. There are a number of good experimental reasons for having them.
With do respect I agree. I think if he had seen how GR would have worked out today, he would have written something far better.
Poor David? I do not know just what kind a beef you have with GR. It has had a very great deal of success especially regarding the practical uses of GPS. It hardly seems possible that at that level anyway, things might be seriously wrong. If what you mean is that spacetime (or higher spaces) is/are not able to be curved or that higher spaces do not exist... I am "up the creek without a paddle". I am basing all those "nice" applications "I can almost taste" on it.
You may be assured that I will be keeping people in the loop as long as there is an interest out there.
Cheers
yquantum
11th July 2005 - 02:50 AM
Good Elf,
What in the world has happen while I am gone. That 'NUT,' E/B, did h/s start all this? H/she is not even registered so until, like I said ignore it.
The d-0 was just for review, still waiting. That is all. I said I would be back!
Ciao_
yuantum
555Joshua
11th July 2005 - 10:59 AM
Friends,
last Friday afternoon when I was filtering the milk I started thinking. I had doubts about what I thought the reason for the slowing of the speed of light was.
If it really is the compression of spacetime, it would have to be severe. Either that or deep space is really thin. And then I though: and it's getting thinner. Thus, the speed of light in a vacuu will increase squared with the expansion of the universe. Moreover, if the speed of light is increasing then I am right.
This also means that at the very beginning the speed of light was 0, and has been increasing.
Another way which would cause the speed of light to decrease would be for light to travel a spiral pattern through the object.
Yquantum, is either one right according to your work?
Ta-ta
philip347
11th July 2005 - 02:08 PM
Josh, I'll keep out of your threads from now on.
It seems that you almost a troll, plus you are ungrateful for information that anyone
Good Elf
11th July 2005 - 02:54 PM
Hi yquantum,
yquantum Posted: Jul 11 2005, 02:50 AM Sorry... I thought you meant it! Your reply could have knocked me over with a feather. I tell you it looked pretty "bad" from this end. Worst "joke" I have ever seen... lucky I am an elf otherwise I would be embarrassed.
What that "person" said seemed pretty much to disenfranchise you, he even said he knew you. You were not responding and my e-mails and PM's were not getting any response. And I waited quite some time... I thought you had been sent to Coventry. When you said...
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"No, I cannot receive and this might be the last message sent for, [and I stress 'AWHILE'], I hope your search will take you were you seek.... "
That seemed an awful long "while".
I wasn't about to see the ideas handed to a "third party" so I reminded everyone at least my ideas are public and could not actually be patented, patents cannot be made on publicly available information and I wasn't about to let anyones ideas get stolen (especially mine). The point is I don't mind you publishing anything at all as long as it is "you" and your team. I sure do not want any publication prevented by that "artifice".
What has happened to your e-mail response... it used to be available?
All this is because there was no way to check any further. I will not react this way in future to anonymous posts. Once bitten twice shy.... maybe I have been bitten more than once in the past heh! Seems I never learn.
I hope this has not caused too many problems... though I understand if it has. Apologies to everyone out there who was tracking my "clown act"! Still very uncomfortable about the whole thing.
Cheers
yquantum
11th July 2005 - 03:47 PM
Hi Good Elf 555Joshua,
I am trying to understand why people do what they do, this world is not doing good right now from my FRAME OF REFERENCE?
No problem GE - we all have seen this happen to others on other sites we have been on, just wish it could have been ignore like others did on there sites. Please not to fret, I think it was more in the timing that magnified the event. This much I do understand.
But that is in the past & nothing but a lesson has been learned. I am so grateful for this Forum, because most want to use what has been given as a priceless gift, there intellect.
I do have a theory, someone does not like M-theroy and we are not even going down that path on this site, and that is funny to me. Darn, I find it exasperating most of the time myself, it is not intuitive to say the least
{M-theory.}
I dare say we all have been working on many unanswered questions for many, many years. YES? So it was a ripple and shall we now move on.
I need to contemplate and peruse my personal records & events on this Phys/Org, did not want to be rude to you GENTLEMEN. Give me some time on these past events I would appreciate it deeply.
I am so glad EVERYONE is giving it some thought. Great job. You could spend a life time on the subject of ©, Eh!
Please excuse typo's, they will happen many times I can assure you because I have only so much time to reply and other reasons I am confident of.
Pi [3.14159265358979323846], not pie as in apple pie, does go good with tea. HA!
Hope everyone is doing well.
Ciao_
yquantum
Good Elf
11th July 2005 - 05:17 PM
Hi Yquantum,
Quickly hiding that sordid past... I am about to divert your attention. Ooh... whats that over there?
yquantum Posted on Jul 11 2005, 03:47 PM
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I do have a theory, someone does not like M-theory and we are not even going down that path on this site, and that is funny to me. Darn, I find it exasperating most of the time myself, it is not intuitive to say the least
{M-theory.}
The question of M-Theory is not a problem to me as such. I actually need M-Theory. The need for a mathematical union of the five string theories on a single greater manifold is reasonable and highly desirable. The existence/requirement for branes is also undeniable, but will all possible higher dimensional branes be capable of "materializing" in our already compactified Universes? Especially if we are dealing with a Braneworld? I guess it is how this is done is the only divergence of the ideas. The symmetry between two supersymmetric realms leads to an insight I like "clinging to". Three pseudo "flat" dimensions vs three complex dimensions (spinning in six dimensions)... plus time then all that "duality". Maybe it will be a "condition" that restricts that 11th dimension.
Since string theory originally developed from strings in 26 dimensions where some of those dimensions will still be there but so compactified that little or no macroscopic phenomena may be visible suggests that that "11th dimension" could be one of those 16 dimensions (or even all of them). The effect on the theory itself will be significant philosophically but may be mathematically "insignificant". Sort of having your cake and eating it too. To work with this theory there could be a very significant practical advantage to be had by "using" only 10 dimensions... that 11th dimension may be effectively "internal".
No one has categorically said just how big it really is other than the arguments about the graviton and that "stuff" about gravity "leaking" away into higher spaces clearly geometrically incompatible with the overall geometry I am considering. This is irreverent to my ideas since these properties are "frame of reference" phenomena created by the compactification of the Calabi-Yau Space to a critical level "on the outside".
The
advantage of the theory being proposed is it is
testable and based on observed physics at a variety of scale. The
disadvantage of the standard M-theory is it is
untestable and remains "philosophy" and just a "beautiful thing" (except if it gets "real lucky" with that gravity leak issue experimentally). I think that idea is possibly going to go belly up given the lack of existing physical evidence to date at the macroscopic level. Agreed?? Sure ... look for it but don't feel too crestfallen if it is not found. Nature usually manifests these "effects" somewhere in a dramatic way... I can't see where at the moment.
Could you make a comment on this perhaps?
Cheers
555Joshua
12th July 2005 - 11:08 AM
Friends,
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Josh, I'll keep out of your threads from now on.
It seems that you almost a troll, plus you are ungrateful for information that anyone
What's that supposed to mean? How did I possibly offend you? I was only helping yquantum, he said that's what he wanted. If this is about this:
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It seems that you almost a troll, plus you are ungrateful for information that anyone |
What's that supposed to mean? How did I possibly offend you? I was only helping yquantum, he said that's what he wanted. If this is about this:
Yquantum, is either one right according to your work?
I knew he wouldn't answer me, he couldn't, I was just teasing. And I still don't understand what your post means, mostly due to bad spelling, and poor grammar.
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It seems that you are almost a troll, plus you are ungrateful for information that anyone...? gives me?
Quite frankly, if I am ungrateful I didn't know. I don't remember being ungrateful.
Good Elf, am I ungrateful?
Okay,
Good Elf,
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Quite frankly, if I am ungrateful I didn't know. I don't remember being ungrateful.
Good Elf, am I ungrateful?
Okay,
Good Elf,
Could you make a comment on this perhaps?
I believe you are speaking to yquantum, but I will reply if you don't mind.
Since I believe string theory is a joke, I don't have much else to say, however...
I have been wondering: what makes the universe "three dimensional?" Is it actually three dimensions? Quite frankly, I have a hard time believing that only three dimensions could support that.
Gravity leaking away from the universe.
When I first heard this I thought, "What?" I never thought it was the answer to the problem of...I don't remember, was it the acceleration of the universe expansion?
Forgive me, but I've never heard of "Calabi-Yau Space," actually I've heard of it, from you.
Ta-ta
"THEY"
12th July 2005 - 06:31 PM
Welcome back yquantum!
But with the going away party you had (thanks to Europe) couldn't you AT LEAST fabricate some elaborate tale?
Awwww, come on, tell us a big fish story!
And now for the question everyone really wants to ask, how long till we hear some details??
yquantum
13th July 2005 - 12:34 AM
Salutations to ALL,
I would like not to vary from the subject at hand on this site if possible.
Oh, yes, "THEY", it seems to me I was the one engulfed by the whale of a tale, so from my view you will have to thread the tail (pun) from the dock of make believe. I am sure it was a big one but with no windows and only GR to go by it left me weightless and completely amazed. Eh!
"The mind can make
Substance and people planets of its own
With beings brighter than have been, and give
A breath to forms which can outlive all flesh."
---Lord Byron---
I hope we can have some intelligent discussion of why © is constant? If this is something you feel impossible to answer or that I am fishing (pun again), I can assure you this is not the case. But this too, is part of the process of not leaving a stone unturned.
Besides this is very important to me and as you well know this is a very open Forum to be sure. I will use every avenue I have at my disposal and if someone comes up with a better theory, then it is all yours. It will be in the Google eye for all to see.
Good Elf, I will go over to the other site and put my humble opinion down but it is unintuitive in the world we live in. But understand it takes years of hard work to get to the point you want an answer on, and it is still very theoretical and very difficult to comprehend, it causes my head to spend most of the time. HA! The good news is that the brightest minds in the world are working on it and I wish I was in that group, oh well. I am glad you see a future in this approach, very encouraging.
I started this with a question; I was very honest about there being a solution from my frame of reference! Yes, there is a possibility of making the wrong conclusions but I think not. I believe it is not false hope but being focused in my resolve, I will check and be very relentless until I feel ready to present it unless someone has a better theory, then only after all resources have been exhausted I will most likely publish it. Or you will, it is piece of the puzzle that fits very nicely I believe.
If you have added then I will E-mail you and YOU will be included, now this is public as well.
Am I picking your brains, NO, I can hardly manage mine, or should I say mind. I stumbled on this way before I came on this Forum, for the record. I am learning to make myself very clear on every point.
I have made many good friends on this Forum, so in advance if a comment is given from an unregistered guest and it seems odd & feels wrong? And I stress does not flow with our discussion, IGNORE PLEASE? Constructive criticism is welcomed of course.
Work in progress, HARD HAT AREA! This FORUM is for Men and Women wanting to reason and view all possibilities in all subjects in this format given freely to us, no special credentials necessary just using the great minds that you all have been given.
I have been getting so many E-mails on this question personally, for which I am grateful but much is on my plate so I do not answer any of them and there are other reasons but please do not start another tail/tale. Every work place has guide lines that must be followed. I helped in making the guidelines so I must follow them as well.
I know you understand my position in dealing with the tremendous amount of E-mail coming to my office. I am sure you experience the very same.
I hope we can do something that will be remembered on this Forum, or if not it will just drift into the abyss of the ridiculous!
Best of respect & regards,
yuantum
So let me start it off. 2.997 924 58 x 10^8 m s^-1 relationship with (energy) = constant speed in vacuum then if it propagates thought a median, air, water, etc. returns to space which is not truly a vacuum (steaming particles) as you all well know. We have © as a constant.
WHY?
Good Elf
13th July 2005 - 01:42 PM
Hi yquantum,
I still think the natural realm of the "brane" is in the extra-spatial dimensions where quantum phenomena are unobserved. Our 3D + T "Bulk" Spacetime rarely glimpses that extra-dimensionality.
I think that analogy of the plane flying over the undulating landscape while the "ants" see all sorts of phenomena as projections into the surface is apt. Those projections are the electric and magnetic fields. Unfortunately we can't "see" this "stuff".
It is very much the same in Special Relativity. Most off what people believe are "observed" phenomena such as increase in rest mass and "optical rotations" (length contractions) are actually a limiting cases of de Broglie's wave particle phenomena for macroscopic particles. They are not actually "different" in that respect. They are limiting manifestations of macroscopic particle travel on the edge of that higher Uberspace of our Universe.
Optically speaking causality can be violated if you observe the optical effects as if they were what is actually occurring. We must remember that "optical" effects are "electromagnetic" effects and do not represent where (or when) as seen from a distant observer, how these events proceed. To make "meaningful" observations of special relativistic events we need "locality" and take measurements over the plane of all events and compare notes after. There will be surprising results that can resolve some paradox with properly synchronized clocks. In general this is not always practical (as an external observer).
Cheers
Good Elf
13th July 2005 - 02:13 PM
Hi 555Joshua,
555Joshua Posted: Jul 12 2005, 11:08 AM
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Good Elf, am I ungrateful?
I doubt it... all I ask of anyone on this site is interest and you have certainly given me that. You don't need to agree with me, that what make all this fun.
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I doubt it... all I ask of anyone on this site is interest and you have certainly given me that. You don't need to agree with me, that what make all this fun.
I have been wondering: what makes the universe "three dimensional?" Is it actually three dimensions? Quite frankly, I have a hard time believing that only three dimensions could support that.
I definitely think three dimensions are not enough. I still defy anyone to explain the conjugate electric and magnetic fields in only 3 dimensions. Try and propose a "mechanism" to transfer energy and "something" between the horizontal dimension and the vertical dimension and juggle all that using the time dimension. I think the "brane" it is traveling on is a "closed" elastic system. Though there are many types of brane they all are "compactified" in those six dimensions.
Thee branes are bigger on the inside than they are on the outside. They map their own spaces in the elastic manifold.
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Forgive me, but I've never heard of "Calabi-Yau Space," actually I've heard of it, from you.
Well...
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Well... When strings move they maintain a kind of symmetry called "conformal invariance"
Conformal invariance (also called "scale invariance") is related to the fact that points on the surface of a string's world sheet need not be evaluated in any particular order. As long as all points on the surface are taken into account in any consistent way, the physics should not change. Equations of how strings must behave when moving involve the Ramanujan function.
The same applies to Calabi-Yau Spaces... the "outside" (actually the hypersurface) right in front of our noses, are totally acausal (no respect for time). They will be mapped in some specific way and it is very scary. That is why © does not really change in the end. The 3D + T spacetime has to work out the causality problems when it encounters these branes. That is its main function through symmetry laws. Some of the 5 string classes are inherently "disrespectful" of time in our Universe.
I enjoy your company and I find a little disrespect is quite a healthy trait in every context, it shows that there is something "ticking" under your beanie. I don't get respect at work or at home so why here....
You have to be pretty "cheeky" to say the things I do and get away with it sometimes. Elves are a "protected species" I guess... He he he!
Cheers
yquantum
13th July 2005 - 02:40 PM
Good Elf,
Thank you, but I do not see the connection and illustration given. Dealing with the math this does not work as I understand it. Not saying I am right, that remains to be seen. To give an analogy of my own, you are one up on me not sure that I could at this time.
HARD HAT AREA, still working on this.
This is not saying you are wrong and I do not want to be misunderstood on this. I just believe you have overlooked something. And this is from my humble opinion? I have given much thought to SR, /QM, QED, etc.
As you know I was not looking for this nugget, I just stumbled over it and fell flat on my face. To keep my face in the sand well that remains to be seen!
You mention the analogy of the plane, so let me ask you where do you feel the plane is getting its energy, for it has to have it to propagate to be a constant in our understanding of SR, yes?
Ciao_
yq
yquantum
13th July 2005 - 02:43 PM
I think we are going to end up with two sites in one. Oh well good for the mind and glad it is in the mix.
Ciao_
y
555Joshua
13th July 2005 - 03:44 PM
Friends,
So you like analogies, huh?
Tree : Wood :: Old Man : ??
He he he, you will never solve it.
555Joshua
13th July 2005 - 04:10 PM
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I definitely think three dimensions are not enough.
Good Elf,
I believe there are multiple dimensions for each of the "three dimesions."
Ta-ta
555Joshua
13th July 2005 - 06:03 PM
Good Elf, Yquantum,
I know you two will be back here. "THEY" has a genius doughter, and she asked some questions. She asked for you two to come, and someone else, but I don't remember. I tested the link; she also would like Waterbreath. She goes by "THEY" 2.
Could you go to
her topic?Ta-ta
yquantum
13th July 2005 - 06:27 PM
Hi 555Joshua
I will go with the math. I would love to be in the 1900s when life was so much simpler. [Well, not really 2005 is so exciting and the future is looking very promising]. But then I would have to seen you a wire instead of using a computer to converse with you. But like Good Elf, we should never stop trying to develop a mental picture that a child could understand. It is not always possible, but as with new theories it is always an up hill climb, but I believe we should keep searching and climbing.
The world you and I live in is so unintuitive on a micro level, and unfortunately our technology & minds can only investigate so much of what is taking place in our daily lives. But if a theory can bring results, and be repeated over and over again, with success. Then it is no longer a philosophy but a tool which can be used to help mankind. I will go with the mind that creates the theory, math to give it legs, and if possible an analogy to help understand it.
We now know of the four forces, three we have made much progress. Then we have moved on to QM and just around the corner it seems maybe Strings which is trying to bring the four together.
But we all have our reservations on new and upcoming ideas in physics, and I with respect understand your comment. But please do not jump ship, maybe in my life time someone so brilliant will come along and bring it all together. This is my hope.
Ciao_& regards,
yquantum
I will check when time permits, thank you. I can understand this request! Maybe this is what I am hoping for? She could be the very one to help us all understand our world better.
555Joshua
13th July 2005 - 06:37 PM
Yquantum,
I don't exactly know why you wrote all of that, however, I found it very interesting.
I hope I somehow help us all understand this world better.
I have to go now.
Ta-ta
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